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We ask President Obama to support law abiding gun owners in this time of tragedy.

We ask President Obama to stand with law abiding gun owners in this time of tragedy. Guns laws could not have prevented Adam Lanza from killing 27 innocents. The real question is what made this disturbed young man into a murderer of children. Where is the outrage at the violent video games he played? A piece of plastic and steel doesn’t have a will Mr. President. Evil is not law abiding, and Adam Lanza stole those guns after failing to buy one legally. it is America’s law abiding gun owners who would have died with Victoria Soto and Dawn Hochsprung defending the children with only our bodies on December 14th, because it was already illegal to bring a gun into that school. Please don’t pander to the politics Mr. President. A feeding frenzy of new gun legislation is not the answer.

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Full Letter to President Obama

Dear Mr. President,

Tragedy is a time when a President has to let go of the politics and cry with the people. But as the tears dry and the anger kicks in, the politics usually come back, and that is what is happening in the case of the tragedy of Adam Lanza. Already the media is suggesting that gun control could somehow have prevented the murder of the 27 innocents in Newtown Connecticut, and as you almost definitely already know, this is not the truth. Gun control may have actually been partially responsible for the tragedy, because all of the potential protectors in that school were disarmed by state law. Adam Lanza did not care what laws he was breaking on December 14th, 2012, and another law would not have gotten in his way. The real question is what made this disturbed young man into a murderer of children, and that certainly was not the availability of guns.

We are not the gun lobby Mr. President. We are America’s law abiding gun owners, and we would have all died with Victoria Soto and Dawn Hochsprung in defending the children with only our bodies on December 14th. Every single one of us would have obeyed the Connecticut law that mandated no guns on school property and left our guns at home. Gun owners are among the most law abiding of Americans, Mr. President, and we deserve your consideration to step aside from the politics and support the truth about this tragedy, not the political agenda put forth by the media and those who would compromise our 2nd Amendment rights.

Adam Lanza did use guns to kill his victims, but a gun is just an inert piece of plastic and steel. Without the addition of human will and a willingness to kill, a gun is no different than any other potentially dangerous object. In this time of tragedy there is no point making this letter a statistical analysis, because you already know the statistics Mr. President, and you know that guns are used to defend the lives of innocents far more than they are used to take the lives of innocents. Cars, plastic bags and swimming pools are all responsible for exponentially more accidental deaths of children every year than guns, yet none of them are blamed for the deaths. These killings of 27 people in Connecticut were not accidents, but Adam Lanza would have used whatever means possible to commit this crime. He tried to buy a gun legally and couldn’t, so he stole the guns from his mother. Another law in his way would not have stopped the bloodshed, because Adam Lanza, like all criminals, didn’t care what laws got in his way. He was clearly going to do this one way or the other.

Guns or not, Adam Lanza had to be willing to walk into that school and start shooting like he did, as if he were in a video game. But where is the outrage for the violent video games that Adam Lanza played? Was he a fan of “The Walking Dead,” a TV show that is teaching our young people that they may have to someday kill their neighbors when they turn into zombies? On Youtube it is possible to watch helmet cams from soldiers in Afghanistan, firing at a living and breathing enemy. If you were to weigh the factors of what led Adam Lanza to feel justified in killing schoolchildren on December 14th, how much of that blame do you think would really fall on the availability of inert pieces of plastic and steel?

Nobody expects newly re-elected President Barack Obama to stand up and call for a law forbidding the states to ban lawful carry of a firearm on school campuses. And certainly nobody expects you to call for an end to violence in the movies, on television and in video games when so much of your support came from the entertainment industry. But during the debates you had the courage to stand up and admit that “assault weapons” were not the problem with street crime. You also didn’t claim to have an answer to the inexpensive handguns in the hands of those street criminals, but you probably do know the answer Mr. President. It is to get more cheap handguns into the hands of inner city law abiding Americans. More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens always equals less crime, and that will be as true on school campuses as it is every other place it has been tried.

Nobody knows what would have happened at that school had a few of the teachers been armed on December 14th. Guns don’t always prevent evil from winning. At best, guns in the hands of the good girls and guys only give us a shot at beating evil, and evil is a determined enemy. In a perfect world we would all live without violence or tragedy of any kind, but this is not a perfect world. There will be violence, and there will be tragedy, no matter what laws we try to use to prevent it. As America’s law abiding gun owners, we ask you to stand with us, Mr. President, and just speak the truth about this awful thing. Another gun law or laws wouldn’t have stopped Adam Lanza. It is an insult to the victims and to the heroines who gave their lives trying to stop Adam Lanza to suggest that any one thing could have prevented this terrible tragedy. All we ask is that you step aside from the politics and the pandering and speak the truth Mr. President. The media frenzy is well underway, and America’s law abiding gun owners don’t deserve the blame for Adam Lanza. You don’t need to get re-elected again Mr. President. Please support us in this time of tragedy.

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  • a sad guy December 16, 2012, 5:11 pm

    and so this is christmas…and what have you done ?

    • gerald crackel December 17, 2012, 12:03 pm

      i have as yet to see a gun laying on a table kill anyone because it is an inanimate object. it takes someone to pull the trigger it can’t fire on it’s own. also with the shooting in co an conn take a close look at the two’s eyes an their expression’s an both an really all have a history of mental problems. gun controll is a farse an maybe all it will do is make who ever makes this judgement feel better but it will not solve the problem. i have been a gun owner for over 50 years an the only thing that more laws will only hold law abideing citizens hostage because of deranged people. these people have been around for eternity. i wish i could sign the petition but i can’t open the file to but i would sign it in a heart beat. good luck in getting this before our reps.

      • Max December 17, 2012, 4:58 pm

        Put your money where your mouth is, where there is a will there is a way!Get on another computer and sign the petition, We have to all stand together on this matter of utmost importance !!!

    • Mike December 17, 2012, 10:53 pm

      I offer my condolences to the family’s of this tragedy but I have to blame the mother of Adam Lanza for allowing this to occur thus allowing responsible gun owners to pay the price for her son’s actions, If the guns were properly secured like they should be, especially around an individual who has mental issues, this tragedy may have been prevented. My only question to responsible gun owners is this: If when our founding fathers crafted our constitution and our bill of rights(in an age when guns were single shot devices) if they had seen the power of semi or fully automatic weapons and had access to you-tube to watch disgruntled wackos shoot up there ex-girlfiends cars, would they have crafted the second amendment like they did…….

      • jeff December 18, 2012, 8:32 pm

        I agree, it amazes me that there is a 6-10 day waiting period (depending on the state)for purchase of handguns but assault rifles you can walk out with one when you buy it.

        • Carl December 19, 2012, 5:46 pm

          That is absolutely NOT true. The only way you an do that is if you already have a Conceal Carry Liscense because they have already done an extensive background check.

          • Rich December 19, 2012, 6:44 pm

            How do we know they were not locked up?

      • RichZman December 21, 2012, 7:18 pm

        You better wake up and smell the coffee. 2A was created to prevent the gov’t from suppressing and taking away our freedom. Witness “Fast & Furious”, Obama and boy blunder’s attempt to sabotoge our 2A right to bear arms. And look how they deflect from the truth when they got caught, deflecting from the real evil within themselves to other news flashes…and the left wing press provides them camouflage by calling Issah names and using political jabs to further deflect from the truth. Dems/left wingers want to tear-up the Const. They want more gov’t. They want me to work and pay for those who are too lazy and too stupid to take care of themselves. Just as my forefathers fought and gave up their lives to protect their freedom, I will, too. And that means if the gov’t decides they want to take my guns, then they can come and get them, but it won’t be easy and without a price. I will never, ever give the gov’t the right to take away my freedom…never.

      • Robert December 21, 2012, 10:54 pm

        Yes, they would have. Because they understood that even if guns are used for occasional violence, they have also been used for good. Otherwise we’d all still be saying “God bless the Queen…”

    • Norman Dault December 18, 2012, 8:46 am

      As a responsible gun owner, I have a gun safe in which all my guns are secured. Having served in the U.S. Army, in Thailand and Vietnam, I have been trained to handle weapons of various design. Being an accountable individual I have made sure that my weapons are in my control and not available to anyone, especially the random individual. I am obligated to protect these weapons. If Congress is of mind to enact further legislation, over current laws, let them look at the HIPPA laws that prevent licensed medical personal from disclosing information as to an individual who has diminished ability into a nationwide data base to be available to law enforcement when performing a background check. As in the case of both, Aurora and Sandy Hook, individuals with diminished abilities were allowed access to weapons. That should be stopped. It must be stopped. First the HIPPA change and then a sever penalty for whom ever violates the disregard for allowing such an individual access to weapons of any sort. In America in excess of one thousand of individuals are killed daily, most by accident, but how many are “death by intention?” The vehicle in not banned, guns should never be banned in direct conflict with our constitution. I implore all those responsible in Congress to act wisely during this time of National Sorrow for Victims of Sandy Hook’s horrific act.

  • Louis R. McClain December 16, 2012, 7:08 pm

    It’s a waste of time BO doesn’t give a damn for our Constitution or our Bill of Rights. But I’m signing anyway, only GOD knows what is worming around his brain!

    • Terry Bishop December 17, 2012, 2:54 am

      ditto

      • walt harper December 17, 2012, 8:59 am

        ditto!

        • Randy Griffin December 20, 2012, 12:38 pm

          Obama needs to look at the whole picture, and he isn’t. Those guns could and would have lay there in that house for a thousand years and never caused any harm to any human being, but that sick minded boy decided for some completely unknown reason, to pick them up and kill his mother, because he had to hate her so much to shoot her like that, but we will never know what pushed him into walking into that school and using those guns on those little children, but HE is the one factor you can not take out of the situation. HE is the one who fired those guns, they did not fire themselves. So the guns are objects that can lay around a house for years and no one gets hurt until a person picks one up and decides to use it on another human being…Stop the human being that would do this,,don’t take the guns away, in fact, if that is tried, there will be horrible situations come out of that move on Obama’s part. Think about it…

          • chuck bennett December 21, 2012, 7:58 am

            OBAMA could care less about our rights. All he wants is to disarm America.

    • Gary December 17, 2012, 8:55 am

      Louis, you are 1000% correct Obamass doesn’t give a damn for our Constitution or our Bill of Rights. He’s a Musslim and Socialist…..

      • Myron T Babler December 17, 2012, 10:53 am

        Oh but he likes to misquote scripture and interrupt football games, as B.O. sees it there are many ways to heaven and the paths are wide.

      • Mike December 17, 2012, 12:00 pm

        Do your research people, Obama has done nothing in the pass to harm the rights of gun owners. It is people like you that make it bad for all of us responsible gun owners. keep up the with all of these lies and you will ruin it for all of us.

        • Sam December 17, 2012, 2:34 pm

          Absolutley right Mike, unfortunetly for you, most of the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathers commenting here think reading this blog counts as “research”. One half-whit racist talking to another doesn’t exactly equate to a learned dialog though does it? And you’d think as gun-owners, they’d know better than to shoot themselves in the foot, wouldn’t you?

          • Richard December 17, 2012, 4:34 pm

            Say’s: Mike December 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm-”Do your research people, Obama has done nothing in the pass to harm the rights of gun owners.”

            Mike, Get real, stupid, most of us have done at minimum, preliminary research.

            Little ‘o’ has at least a 6-year plus record of trying to ban all hand-guns and most other rifles-guns in this country. I guess you don’t read the real reports.

            I wish you were an American and believed in this country and it’s constitution. You will be one of the ones who hope for and begin the Anarchy that will happen in this country as you try to destroy it.

            Most of the rest of us will be the ones who will stop you, one way or the other!

            If our country were not besieged by irresponsible and clueless people like you, then we could reestablish a society that could handle, and take care of the mentally irresponsible people that sometimes raise their heads and bring ugliness upon us. Yes, evil exists, but the truth will prevail.

            That is why most of the rest of us are here.

            Amen, and to God and His Grace be our future!

          • Max December 17, 2012, 5:28 pm

            Wake up Sam, where have you been hiding in a cave? type in Barak Obama’s Position on Gun Control and get educated for all Our sakes !!!

          • Chris December 17, 2012, 8:11 pm

            To all you knuckleheads bickering over each other 1st Am rights to express yourselves you need to stop. In case you haven’t noticed the “Left” has united in their cause(s). It’s high time we do the same or you can start checking off ALL of our Bill of Rights!

          • Pete Wallace December 18, 2012, 12:12 am

            Why are you on here then?

        • FirstSergeantUSA December 17, 2012, 5:00 pm

          You obviously dont follow his support for NATO Alliance regulation of gun owners.

        • Max December 17, 2012, 5:11 pm

          Mike, your the one that needs to do the research, type in Barak Obama’s Gun Control Positions and read it for yourself… In the future make comments based on fact and not what you think you know!

        • Spiff December 17, 2012, 5:12 pm

          Roger that Mike.
          Referring to Obama as Obamass is why people who would otherwise be on the fence about gun issues refer to us as “nuts”. It is just not a positive way to interact with those voters whose understanding we need.

          I have been an NRA member for 60 years and a distinguished pistol marksman for 47 years.

          There comes a time when tilting against windmills accomplishes nothing.

          Once in a while realists reevaluate their position and make adjustments that will allow themselves to survive and come back to engage in future battles.

          Name calling of your president may not be such a strategy. Be advised that non members are able to access this forum Gary.

          • Richard December 18, 2012, 10:27 am

            what you say is correct sir. also the division of what should be our united front does not help our cause whatsoever.

        • Max December 17, 2012, 5:19 pm

          Mike, your the one that needs to do the research, type in Barak Obama’s Gun Control Positions and read it for yourself … in the future make comments based on fact and not what you think you know !

        • jeff December 18, 2012, 7:54 pm

          thats right Mike, they will run there mouths about the very person they want to help us. the same one who has done nothing to hurt us gun owners. pay attention to whats going on by who before you open your mouth people..

    • mr_bad_example December 17, 2012, 9:37 am

      double ditto, the constitution is used as TP in the WH

    • James Andrews December 17, 2012, 10:48 am

      I tend to agree, but I will still sign and forward this petition. The reality is that the re are already tens of thousands of gun laws on the books, and in many states, they aren’t enforced well at all, so why pass even more laws? second, you don’t further trample on the rights of eighty to a hundred some odd law abiding gun owners because of a lone psychotic killer. It was a terriible, terrible tragedy, and my heart and condolences go out to the victims and their families and loved ones, but the REAL issue here is our failing mental health system in America. This is what they should be looking at, and trying to find out ways to fund it better.

      • Jerry Andrews December 17, 2012, 2:16 pm

        I had an older brother named James and I saw your name and comments here. My brother, now deceased, was an Army veteran, I am an Air Force veteran, my Dad served in WWII, his Dad served in WWI. I am a Benefactor Member of the NRA and very proud of it. If I could have stopped this homicidal maniac at the front door of that school, I would have sacrificed my life to save those innocent children, and the teachers who were murdered with them. I do not know of a single NRA member who has committed a violent crime, if there are any I have never heard about it. We are all mostly proud veterans who love our country, the right to keep and bear arms, and would never hurt a child or anyone else unless it was a situation that could not be avoided. You are right, we have hundreds of laws on the books now that we do not enforce. We know dangerous, deranged people are out there that the law can’t or won’t do anything about. The liberal response, take all weapons away from law abiding citizens! Sure, I live in the country in South Texas, miles from the nearest town. I have poisonous snakes, badgers, and all kinds of wild animals that have to be taken care of. What am I going to do, beat them with a stick, wait for animal control to show up in a week? When someone shows up at my doorstep and points a gun at me, what do I do, put up my hands and give up? I have never been robbed but I have had the training and guns in my possession since I was 10 years old. Taking my guns will not stop a freak like this kid, leaving me helpless will not prevent other future incidents. There are answers to the problem but the anti-gun crowd just leap on the first scapegoat they can find. Good day to you sir.

        • jeff December 18, 2012, 8:03 pm

          I would agree with you Jerry, you take away guns from law abiding people then criminals will be only ones outside of law-enforcement that has them that sure wont help.this kid determined to do what he did would still have happened if laws were changed on guns, he would have gotten them somewhere else. the only thing that would have helped those kids and teachers would have been proper defense training and some teachers carrying.

    • G.R. Estepp December 17, 2012, 12:38 pm

      It wont give me A password so I can sign in.I dont think they want it posted. BO might have helped arrange this and the other shootings last week Nottice how Feignstein had this bill ready to go?

      • Max December 17, 2012, 5:24 pm

        G.R. try again until it gives you one, I made several attemps before i finally got a password, giving up is not the solution ! Please try again for all of the Law Abiding Gun Owners in this Country and yourself !!!

      • jeff December 18, 2012, 8:07 pm

        Am I reading you right. R U FRIKIN KIDDING ME G R? you think Obama arranged killin of kids in school!!!!

      • Kris January 9, 2013, 2:15 pm

        WTF? This is the kind of ridiculous stuff that gives RKBA advocates a bad name and allows the gun control proponents to paint us as a bunch of nutjobs. Knock it off!

    • Elizabeth December 17, 2012, 6:17 pm

      Boy isn’t that the truth. He cares about no one except his ROCK STAR IMAGE. He has ruined the power and grace of the United States of America. He has destroyed the respect and dignity that this great nation once had along with the financial status. He has caused not equal rights for everyone, but UNEQUAL rights for the minority, that’s not even the right word but I can’t think of anything other at the time, which has taken away the rights and privileges of everyone else. We are in serious trouble all way around if something doesn’t change the wrong that has befallen us because he was put back in as president.

      • Kris January 9, 2013, 2:21 pm

        Not sure where all that came from, but the “Obama is responsible for all that is wrong in the country/world” line of argument, generally completely lacking in evidence, is not productive. He may have made a lot of bad choices, but so have previous administrations. Pretending everything was going fine before he was elected is rather ridiculous. I’m definitely going to be opposing anyone trying to restrict the rights of law-abiding citizens to own whatever firearms we want, but making sweeping, hyperbolic statements like that just makes us look irrational, unreasonable and sometimes downright crazy. Nobody trusts people like that, and it just turns other reasonable people against us.

  • daniel brown December 16, 2012, 7:17 pm

    What would Jesus give? I think he’d give all the teachers and all the school children a Bushmaster .223 …. Merry Christmas.

    • Rhys Roemhildt December 17, 2012, 5:09 am

      Amen

    • philip December 17, 2012, 6:18 am

      Mr. Brown your comment is hartless. Read your Bible

      • Phil P December 17, 2012, 8:15 am

        he would say “sell your coat and get a sword”

      • walt harper December 17, 2012, 9:04 am

        Mr. philip! I’ve read my Bible and Bushnasters were not mentioned but thou shall not kill was. Every cop that arrived late was not heartless and was armed and was ready. Jesus doesn’t give free guns away but if one Christian had one gun that day, the Devil would not have killed as many angels. Not paraphasing.

        • john December 17, 2012, 9:16 am

          I reiterate what walt said and then some …

          • James Tanner December 17, 2012, 1:34 pm

            I agree BO is going to use this and others in the past to make him look like the man that single handally brought the 2nd amendment to it’s knees like other constitutional laws that he abused.

      • Craig A. Miller December 17, 2012, 9:57 am

        Philip, you are e-less. Heartless.
        Jesus would encourage us to defend
        our homes and children. He himself
        kicked ass in the temple to cleanse it
        of the moneychangers and sellers.

        • Marty F. December 17, 2012, 10:29 am

          lol @ using religion to back up your need to defend yourself. This has nothing to do with Jesus. This has everything to do with our inherent human rights. You guys are nuts

          • Peter Sulvan December 17, 2012, 2:29 pm

            WTF does religion have to do with ANY of this? People have an equal right, according to the Constitution, to not only not be Christian.. but for their State and Federal offices to be separated from organized religions. I love the game of “Lets interpret the Constitution to fit our preconceived notions and beliefs, screw what is means for anyone else!” that a lot of you psychopaths follow.

            Should have elected Mormon/Moron Romney (who passed an assault weapons ban in MA).. Mormonism is about as far from the original Christian teaches as Scientology is.

          • Kris January 9, 2013, 2:25 pm

            Can’t reply directly, but I agree with what Peter Sulvan said. Dragging religion into this, as some sort of bizarre appeal to authority, is just a really bad idea. Why through gas on the fire?

        • joey d December 18, 2012, 3:00 pm

          well said

          • jeff December 18, 2012, 8:15 pm

            so very true Peter as well as people on here bashing Obama. maybe for all the religious and political Obama basher Friday 21st Mayan’s prediction will come true and all your
            finger pointing and bs will be for not

  • Shane December 16, 2012, 11:47 pm

    How about a $0.02 per center-fire round tax with proceeds required to go directly toward increased school security? Let’s put our pennies where are loud mouths are. Most (all) state governments are NOT going to arm teachers. But we CAN install double security doors with blast resistant glass, electronic locks, and employ well trained security guards (former Soldiers and Marines would be great). This will cost money. How much is the Second Amendment worth? We talk a lot about “fighting” for our gun rights – “cold dead hands” and all of that – how about actually trying to sound like sane grownups and offer solutions that might – but only might – save the Second Amendment? This event is Connecticut is changing people’s minds quickly. Crazy BS and insulting the twice-elected President of the United States is NOT going to help. Let’s 1- demonstrate compassion; 2– offer serious proactive ideas to at least try to prevent future tragedies.

    • Eric December 17, 2012, 8:36 am

      Shane,finaly someone with a brain.Thanks for having a clear mind and solution here while all the wild hairs rum ammuck.Perhaps the NRA or SAF foundation could employ you.

    • ron haines December 17, 2012, 8:52 am

      Thanks for an adult look at the problem. However, the real problem are those sick individuals that commit such atrocities. It has been proven that someone knows about these things before they happen. People at Columbine did not show up a school that day as they know something was going to happen bub did not tell anyone.

      Yes we need to take a look better protection for our schools. One as they are completely defenseless , they are children and the very least capable of defending themselves. We also need to improve our ability to find these sick individuals before they committ these crimes. I am thinking that even the dead mother of the shooter had to have some idea that this young man needed some institutional help.

      • Richard December 17, 2012, 4:41 pm

        Wrong!!!!!!!

    • Tom December 17, 2012, 9:41 am

      @Shane……Some soldiers come back from serving there country to no jobs……Having a few in schools for protection is a great idea….It helps with unemployment as well……..It would make a kid like Lanza think twice about going to a school and shooting up the place…….The same goes for people who work in schools,teachers,office personal,operations personal…..Train them in the use of firearms and arm them……Maybe just maybe they could have prevented some of the loss of life………..

    • Ted December 17, 2012, 10:14 am

      Shane that is an incredibly great idea. I can’t think of too many things that would make me vote for a tax increase but I support your idea whole heartedly. Taking away guns IS NOT the solution. Which one of us would not pay anything for to protect our kids? There are reasonable solutions to these problems if reasonable people would think with their brains and not their hearts.

    • Brett December 17, 2012, 10:29 am

      Let us look at real problems. There are already to many gun control laws. If one of those teachers would have had a weapon and know (be willing) on how to use it, case closed, dead crazy man. Pouring money into anything will not work. The public education system proves that everyday. The criminals and crazy people are not afraid of law abiding citizens. When they know we will shoot back their mind set will change. Police carry weapons to protect themselves. Not you. They are there to enforce the law. Not protect us. We all need to get a backbone, stand up to any and everyone who has decided that we cannot protect ourselves. Vote out all who do not follow the Consitution. Be responsible for ourselves. This will prevent future diasasters.

      • Sam December 17, 2012, 2:58 pm

        Not sure all who have the calling to “teach” also have the calling to train with, carry, and use a weapon. Not sure we should make that a requirement either.

        I worked in a prison for a while and I can tell you there is a reason they don’t give Correctional Officers guns–they can be taken away. And on that same note, I’m not sure turning our schools into fortresses or prisons would have a positive effect on the kids we send there.

        • JRW December 17, 2012, 6:18 pm

          If this ‘brilliant’ plan to put trained armed soldiers in or schools was given even a minor consideration I might consider moving out of the country because we wouldn’t be any different than the average third world country at that moment. The truth is simply that the average urban dweller is afraid of firearms because they have never been exposed to them other than through the media. So it stands to reason that all see is firearms shown in a bad way. Hunting is fine but there are as many soccer mom’s worried about animals as there are people against guns (go figure). There needs to be a media campaign in which guns are shown being used in competitions with nothing being hurt or killed. It’s the killing aspect that turns people away from guns. My guess is that over half the legal guns owned don’t kill anything but targets at a shooting range of some sort. THAT idea needs to be propagated.
          I read about half the posts here, because, lets face it; there are a lot. Nothing said here was worth considering. There was no ‘adult’ thinking, only biased thinking which was all coming from the heart. My idea isn’t a solution. It’s simply an idea.
          One poster here mentioned the changes in the mental health system from many years ago. I’m old enough that I vaguely remember those debates on TV. So I agree, we sort of did this to ourselves. We want to please everybody all of the time. I’ve never seen that happen but we can always fight over that ideal. We live in a republic not a democracy. Everyone can’t have baby-powder rubbed on their butts every time a political injustice has been imagined by a certain group. But we continue thinking we can appease everyone all the time. ??? Someones bitty feelings are going to get hurt, pure and simple.
          The laws we have are sufficient if anyone complaining would take the time to do actual peer reviewed research. And I’m not talking about Face Book or your local social blog. A good place to start is your state laws. Every state has them. Don’t rely on what your neighbor says and then have a knee-jerk reaction to a very small problem in the grand scheme of things. Millions upon millions of guns reside homes throughout America. Yet we see a massacre like this and jump to the conclusion that it’s a widespread problem…HUH? That simply doesn’t make sense. It’s true that it’s a tragedy, but get your collective heads back in the light, it’s NOT a widespread problem!
          Pay attention to something other than the mainstream media. Or at least think on your own and double check what they say. They have an agenda, as does everyone. They need ratings. That’s what brings in advertisement money. Emotionally charged happenings of any type bring up ratings. Killings of any type, but especially of innocent children, are going to fuel the fire. We play along willingly. The other idea which needs to be kept in mind is the proliferation of instant media. We learn about everything within about five minutes of it occurring and then jump to conclusions. This wasn’t true just a few years ago. Journalists were taught to verify before publishing. That can’t happen any more either. The thing to remember is the quantity of information we receive today does not have anywhere near the quality of even a few years ago, which isn’t saying much. They want their agenda to win, which it will, because they want you to hear about the bad things GUNS do. Not the good things that can teach and do. People forget that the same gun in the hands of a cop turn them into heroes. I don’t follow this logic myself.
          I understand that everything in these comments sections fall on deaf ears. So I, as hopefully does everyone else, take the comments here with a grain of salt.

      • Max December 17, 2012, 5:36 pm

        Well written Brett, thanks for the comment.

    • Dave December 17, 2012, 10:45 am

      Well stated, Shane. And an interesting, viable idea…a tax increase I would support. It is good for us concerned gun owners to bring sensible ideas to the table as, like it or not, newer, more restrictive gun control legislature will be pushed hard in the foreseeable future. Both sides of the issue need to approach this calmly and logically.

    • Thomas C Blessing December 17, 2012, 11:03 am

      How about paying for the added security by pulling back some of the money we send overseas to the countries that are burning our flags and killing our soldiers ,such as Egypt and Libya just to name a few.

      • Hanor December 17, 2012, 12:15 pm

        Thomas, you got it.

      • Sam December 17, 2012, 3:00 pm

        Or the countries where WE are killing their children BY THE HUNDREDS!
        Either way the money is better spent hear, don’t you agree?

    • Robert December 17, 2012, 11:58 am

      Shane, thanks for a thoughtful and mature adult look view of this. When will these guys learn that talking about the existing law on the books has not stopped these mass shootings? And when are they going to learn about how they look when they continue to talk this way? The NRA and the gun lobby in general is 100% irresponsible in how guns are handled in this country because if they were, we wouldn’t be having these problems. In addition to your ideas, why isn’t the NRA in the schools, churces and colleges giving seminars on gun ownership and meeting with the students, parents and teachers gun owner and non gun owners? Every person who kills someone in a non self defense situation is sick. If the gun lobby and the mental health industry were constantly in communities: schools, churches, libraries and community centers, I believe that a lot of these problems can be prevented. But all we hear are “they’re are laws on the books….” Laws only work after the fact. Most of these laws begin where? At the gun dealerships. What are they going to do? They’re in the business of selling because they have to make a living and they will sell to whomever qualifies. The only time I see gun dealers outside of their shops is at competitions and gun shows. You take Atlantic Guns in Silver Spring Maryland. They are located right downtown Silver Spring and the last time I was up there, the store is next to a barbershop, a used bookstore and other small businesses, like a bank, around the corner from Negrils Jamaican restaurant, up the street is Dale’s Music Center, etc. I’ll bet they’ve never sent a rep to a community meeting!

      • Max December 17, 2012, 5:48 pm

        Robert, the NRA teaches gun safety courses throughout the US year round in all types of different locations and the reason they stand so strong on gun issues is because they have learned the hard way that if they give an inch the law makers will take a mile !!!

        • Robert December 19, 2012, 11:22 am

          I understand what you’re saying and I totally agree. My first gun lessons were from a NRA certified instructor and they were thorough. But we need to be stronger than this. We have our rights and we need to be more proactive instead of reactionary. Our total campaign is fear of having our guns taken. But I believe we owe it to the non gun owning community to let them know we know how to handle what we have and we haven’t. I firmly believe, that the gun safety courses that the NRA offers are not enough. Why? Because they are only offered to those who are interested in firearms. My suggestion, and it’s only a suggestion would be to hold seminars that are geared towards non shooters in places like schools with the head administrators assisting, churches and in other community centers. I truly believe the NRA needs to do this and that it will work in stead of constantly promoting fear and how our lives are constantly threatened. This is the only image the non shooting community has of the NRA. They don’t know about silhouette shooting or Sporting Clays, or Trap which is what I shoot, or the Anne Oakley and the buddy shoots or the turkey shoots and all of the other fun games we play. They don’t have this image. And you know how non shooters are, they think guns just go off by themselves as if it’s alive or something. You know they believe this! They believe that if they look at one they’ll get shot, you can’t even get one to go into a gun store! Or if they touch one they will automatically become a killer or they’ll turn into some kind of a monster or they’ll burn in hell, etc. I’m around non gun owners and shooter all the time, I know how they think. But as shooters, in fact I trained shooting 150 rounds at the club yesterday, we see our firearms as tools like a hammer or a screwdriver or a drag car or a good set of golf clubs. It has it’s place just like everything else does. And this is because we shoot a lot. But to some, mainly non owners or owners who don’t train, guns are like a mental thing, you know. It’s like people who use steroids to gain weight and muscle. This is how they approach guns and how they view us. We need to change this.

        • Harris December 21, 2012, 1:22 pm

          In the U.S. in 2011, the average number of people murdered with a gun per day was roughly 25. For comparison, the average number of people killed by drunk drivers per day in 2011 was around 27. There have been laws in existence to attempt to control fatalities resulting from both for a long time now. Nobody has called for an automobile ban in order to curb drunk driving deaths though, because cars are viewed as in-disposable necessities and guns aren’t regarded as requisite property to everyday life beyond police & military use.
          Yet both share the same constant: a PERSON had to break the law to effect a death result for both. There”s no way around the human factor. For argument’s sake, if cars were theoretically banned, that would certainly eliminate drunk driving deaths, but just categorically. If guns were banned, that would eliminate a lot of deaths by gun, but short of collecting every single firearm in the U.S. (legal & illegal) and melting them down (not practical), you still have the evil human element that, regardless of the absence of a gun, will still find a way to get their pound of flesh and inflict harm or death through any means at hand. The lawbreaker ignores the law. The reason to have the laws in the first place is to protect life.
          The plain fact is that you can get rid of guns, but you will never get rid of the evil that men do. A law-abiding gun owner should not be made a scapegoat as a means to an end. The gun is a tool. The mind is the weapon. I hope that I’m not coming across as naive, but I feel that it’s humanity’s propensity to destroy itself that is the heart of the issue. After all, we are the top predator on the planet. So wouldn’t it stand to reason that we would be prone to inflicting violence on ourselves utilizing whatever means we could? Humans need to evolve beyond the petty and superficial differences that affect the majority of our civilizations on the planet Earth.

    • Jon doe December 17, 2012, 12:04 pm

      The ultimate responsibility lies with the parents on these insane individuals. They should of taught their children
      The rights and wrong of life and nurture them to be good caring human beings and give them all the help and
      Support to carry this out in life.

      The Lanza family fail to do that and society have to paid the ultimate price.

      • Sam December 17, 2012, 3:04 pm

        What planet are from John?

    • Bill K December 17, 2012, 12:41 pm

      Shane, This school was a locked door school and no gun zone.. Stop and think, criminals do not obey laws, that is why they are criminals.. New gun laws, more locked schools and security will not stop this type of thing from occuring, if the criminal has the intent to break one or more laws and kill/injure, and they will find a way or means to do so.

    • Bonehunter December 17, 2012, 12:48 pm

      You are insane if u don’t think arming teachers to defend themselves and their students is not a legitamate solution. Crazies don’t exactly walk in to a police station and start shooting when they have 20 or 30 or 50 guns knowingly pointed back at them now do they?

    • Robert December 17, 2012, 12:51 pm

      I shoot trap and on a Ljutic Monogun single barrel and a Beretta for trap and plan to buy an O/U for skeet and sporting clays. Because we have twin sons in college I can’t justify the expense of shooting both trap and rifles and therefore don’t own a semi auto rifle. And as it looks now, my time to buy one will soon but short. I want to sign this petition. But the way it’s written, we’re asking the President to support us but how much support have we given him? I constantly read about how the gun owner community feels about him! Calling him the “N” word and other names like porch monkey and disrespecting his wife and his children and calling him all kinds of liars and now we want his support and we still don’t support him! In fact, what we really want is a favor! Pointing the finger at street thugs and inner city hand gun crimes with the shooting of 1 or 3 people does not address school shootings of 20+ 5-7 year olds or 15+ parents and children at the movies, etc or church and temple killings. Most street shootings happen between criminals and there is a big difference between that and the killing of a mothers and teachers and children in a school or a movie theater or a church. And most don’t care about those shootings anyway until it affects them!

      My sons went to public schools in Prince George’s County Maryland and there were always police around. Parents do not want their 5 year olds to be around armed teachers! High school kids maybe but not 5-10 year olds. Think about it, you want anti gun parents to approve of the arming of teachers? OK, you get the majority approval what about the minority? They are just going to go along?

      Shane, thanks for a thoughtful and mature adult look view of this. When will these guys learn that talking (and that’s all they do – is talk or point the finger at someone else) about the existing laws on the books have not stopped these mass shootings? And when are they going to learn about how they look to the anti gun community when they continue to talk this way? As soon as I start talking about the gun laws on the books to a anti gunner I get jumped on hard and heavy because in their mind, they don’t work! And the proof is in the pudding whether in the suburbs or the inner city, upper, middle or lower class.How would have the existing laws prevented the shooting in Connecticut? Maybe he violated some by taking them and transporting them but he obviously didn’t care! So what good were the existing laws? He violated them and got away with it. What good are laws if they can be easily violated? This is what the non gun owner and the anti gun community wants to know.

      The NRA and the gun lobby in general are 100% irresponsible on how guns are handled in this country because if they were, we wouldn’t be having these problems. And they are too damned quiet in supporting the victims right now. And I believe that is what the President meant by there needs to be some changes made. And Shane, In addition to your ideas, why isn’t the NRA in the schools, churches and colleges giving seminars on gun ownership and meeting with the students, parents and teachers gun owner and non gun owners so that the two groups can understand each other? Both groups think the other is crazy!

      Every person who kills someone in a non self defense situation is sick. If the gun lobby and the mental health industry were constantly in communities: schools, churches, libraries and community centers, I believe that a lot of these problems can be prevented. But all we hear are “there are laws on the books….” Laws only work after the fact. Most of these laws begin where? At the gun dealerships and what are they going to do? They’re in the business of selling and they have to make a living and they will sell to whomever qualifies. The only time I see gun dealers outside of their shops are at competitions and gun shows. You take Atlantic Guns in Silver Spring Maryland. They are located right downtown Silver Spring and the last time I was up there, the store is next to a barbershop, a used bookstore and other small businesses, like a bank, and around the corner from Negrils Jamaican restaurant, up the street is Dale’s Music Center, etc. I’ll bet they’ve never sent a rep to a community meeting! How many other gun dealers are the same?

      • Max December 17, 2012, 6:16 pm

        Robert, do you think this would have happened if the shooter knew that someone armed was going to be there to confront him? I dont think so, thats why he attacked a school – a gun free zone-… he was a sick coward, isnt that why he committed suicide? Blaming the NRA, who does everything in their power to promote gun safety is just ludicrouous!, they (NRA) support all gun owners even you, also they do have gun classes all over the Country that they sponsor and set up to teach gun handling and safety etc, these classes are open to the public and attendance is voluntary they dont force you to go !!!

        • Robert December 19, 2012, 12:48 pm

          Max, that school’s lax of security is about the standard in an upscale community. An you know what the problem is. If Adam Lanza had lived in NYC with its stop and frisk laws, he still could have killed his mother and some of the children. Way less but still some. Why? Because no one would have expected him and Law enforcement would have been monitoring someone else. As a result, lower income and more dangerous communities have more police presence and as a result no history of mass shootings. You hear about mass shootings at schools or shopping malls killing 15-20 in urban areas have you? Maybe one or two but not 10-25! Be careful when you deal with this suicide thing too talking about he was sick and that’s why he killed himself. We knew that because most sick shooters kill themselves. Usually they’ll kill a loved one then themselves. But we are talking his mother, 20 children and six adults and THEN his suicide. And these people had no beef with Lanza. If this had been between to armed people beefing with each other or only him and his mother that’s one thing. I heard Adam Lanza believed his mother loved the school more than him. But talking about his suicide doesn’t mean anything to those 26 families. I know what the NRA does and I know the same way you do and if they’d somehow help some of us get a right to carry in my state I’d be happy. But you can’t on the one hand blame him, his mother and lax school security and then on the other claim that the NRA is getting unfairly blamed. I say the NRA is NOT doing everything in its power to promote gun safety because it ONLY communicates with the gun owning public, the industry and the politicians. And the NRA’s only relationship with non-gun owners is Wayne’s rants and Charlton’s from my cold dead hands, etc. That’s all they know and this is how they view us gun owners and if you’re happy with this, then OK! But then you are only thinking about the criminals and if the victim is armed, I hope and pray that I’m not in the line of fire! Maybe you’d want to be there. They could survive but kill me. A whole lot of innocent people have died this way. Are you saying that Adam Lanza was a criminal? He sure as hell killed more than any one doped up thug has. He’s top shelf! Or is he just sick and suicidal and the doped up thug is only a thug? More armed citizens? I’d love to carry but I live in a no carry state and I’m too scared to get arrested and charged with illegal carry. I know some who on occasion do though. I was born in Alabama and when I visited a lot of people carried. My grandparents carried. But that area has a long history of carrying which is different than an area that doesn’t. Have you considered this? How do you suggest taking an area that has NO history of side arm carry and turn it into one that does to the point where innocents feel safe from crime? Or are the innocent just collateral damage?

    • jon December 17, 2012, 1:37 pm

      Shane,
      Thank you for saying what I have been screaming since Columbine. One entrance to the school, metal detector and armed guard, and well trained as well. I am a Marine and would gladly do that job. The only thing I couldn’t figure out was funding. You have solved that with you tax idea. I would gladly pay that tax. We could make that school optional to attend, not to offend anyone. Those who choose to send their children could pay a small fee to absorb the cost as well. God bless you and the tiny victims of this horrible tragedy.

    • Jay December 17, 2012, 1:39 pm

      More taxes on the 3% of us? You must be mad that is not a well thought out plan at all. 2¢ a round is alot when you shoot almost every day, besides commercial ammunition is already expensive enough. If you are indeed looking for an equal solution to a problem that affects everyone, then why not just raise taxes on everyone?

      • RageFury December 17, 2012, 2:56 pm

        $5 for 250 rounds is not a big price to pay and it would actually go to something worthwhile.
        That said, I have a better idea. Lets legalize weed and place a 10¢ tax to use for this purpose :)
        I bet that would raise far more and be more than enough to cover our needs here.

    • Sam December 17, 2012, 2:47 pm

      Guns aren’t the problem but crazies are and until we have the methods and means to care for and treat them, YOU and your guns will be the easier target. How about the same tax going for better (ie: ANY) mental heath care for those who need it in this country?! How bout the NRA donating and lobbying for THAT cause? Everyone who has opposed helthcare reform needn’t worry about President Obama interfearnig with your gun rights–you’ve all done that jobe for him!

    • Gerard Gales December 17, 2012, 3:10 pm

      Twice elected? But the red/blue map (which mentions NOTHING about population concentration in those areas) CLEARLY shows more support for the Right and it’s because, as they eluded, 51%+ of the people who voted are on Welfare and there’s a lot more red on the map than blue!! It’s on this site somewhere. Clearly it’s the video games. Take them away and give the kids guns! That clearly works in urban areas and areas of high poverty. Oh……wait…… <– entire paragraph is sarcasm #censormyposthypocrits

      Blame the parents and the families who failed this guy. He clearly needed more attention than he was getting.

      America IS changing and politics are changing as well, will gun laws change? You bet! Should they? I, personally don't believe so, but the FACT is that if there were limits to buying ammo (as there is a limit for buying certain OTC drugs in some states) and a limit on magazine capacity and the amount of guns a person can own then this would NOT have happened. Sad, but true. If you wanna buy 100 rounds for range shooting and have nothing to hide then turn in 100 empty casings.

      Theocracy, however, is not the answer either. Religion has killed as many people as guns. How is a Muslim-centric political system better than a Christian-centric political system? Both dissolve true religious freedom and freedom of expression. Neither are in-line with a constantly changing world. I know science is a horrible, evil, Satanic thing, but if you do simple comparison to countries with stricter firearm laws and left leaning population you will find that this is an American problem. Violent video games, movies, music, art, etc.. are not limited to the United States. So what's the wild card responsible for this sort of thing happening over and over again in the US? Hmm..

      Additional security is a MUST at schools, Shane hit the nail on the head, BUT why should children be locked inside a building because semi-automatic and concealable weapons are so easy to come by? Here, in NY, this guy could have walked into any guns store at 8:00am and been out the door and at the school with a Bushmaster and 1000 rounds. How is THAT not the problem? I own an AK and a huge collection of rifles which I enjoy sport (range) shooting with – but the more these things happen the more I want to have them melted down and destroyed.

      • dragon6actual January 14, 2013, 6:08 pm

        By all means Gerald – melt down every weapon you own… just leave mine the hell alone.

        If there were limits on buying ammo or a limit on magazine capacity, things would most certainly NOT have changed. The so-called “assualt” weapons, magazine capacity or ammo availability are not the problem, and if a malcontent or one with mental issues desires, there are an infinite number of ways in which he can seek and secure his fifteen minutes of fame. As an example, google “Bath Michigan School Disaster”, “Murrah Federal Building” or “World Trade Center”.

        There are measures that will drastically reduce occurances similar to Sandy Hook, Aurora, Virgina Tech, etc.

        1. Include all mental patients on the NCIS list that is checked prior to a sale of firearms through a dealer. Currently, only 20 states provide such information to the national database.

        2. If an individual can’t make it through the day without pumping Prozak, Ridlin, Zoloft, etc., then he probably shouldn’t be walking the streets. If a parent or legal guardian is attempting to levy an involuntary commitment, the detention should begin immediately.

        3. Bring the full weight of law enforcement and the courts to bear on drug runners and gang bangers. Don’t just declare war on drugs and gangs – do it. Over 70% of all firearms related homicides are drug or gang related.

        4. Eliminate “Gun Free” zones. In each instance of mass shootings, the perpetrator has selected a target that he knew to be “gun free”. Let me translate that for you – to almost all of us, “gun free” means you cannot carry on the premesis. To a perpetrator, “gun free” means “there isn’t a soul here to stop me until police arrive, and by then I’ve accomplished what I intended to do”. Post law enforcement officials (plural) in schools. Allow staff members who have undergone the training and background checks to carry concealed. Eliminate the advertisement of easy targets.

        5. Nevermind the so-called “gunshow loophole”, that isn’t where these clowns are buying. Eliminate the real source of illegal firearms – firearm thefts. Offer a tax incentive for the purchase of a gun safe. Stiffen mandatory sentancing guidelines for the possession, sale, attempted sale, transportation, or theft of any rifle, pistol or shotgun.

        There are many ways in which to reduce the possibility of this tragedy from occuring again. I daresay we shall never eliminate these senseless attacks, but let’s be realistic. And by realistic, I mean foregoing the asinine nonsense about increasing restrictions through legislation, since only law abiding citizens are going to adhere to same. If, as you contend, outlawing certain firearms, magazines, etc. will make us safer, it will also convict and punish millions who had absolutely nothing to do with the killings. Where is our due process?

        Further, as a law-abiding citizen living in a free country, I DEMAND access to any firepower available to my military and my law enforcement.

    • roge December 17, 2012, 5:23 pm

      EVERY federal building gets this kind of security for worthless office workers.

    • Joe December 17, 2012, 5:57 pm

      No sir these are schools not prisons. We have trained Police Officers that are out of work because
      of budget cuts.
      These Policeman would rally at the chance to go back to work and they are better trained in
      domestic situations.

      I’m all for a tax to protect our children with well trained out of work Police officers.

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      • John Roefaro December 19, 2012, 5:58 am

        FACT: Obama cut armed security in school funding in 2011. Yes, Sandy Hook was one of the schools cut!!!! Chew on that one for a while BUT I’m sure he’ll make it all better by taking guns from law abiding citizens!!!!!!!! What a joke our government has turned out to be!! Our founding fathers would not be sad, they would be ENRAGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Stevan December 17, 2012, 10:30 pm

      Great idea Shane, I think it is a small price to pay to keep our second amendment rights as well as securing employment to our returning vets.

    • Shane December 18, 2012, 4:07 am

      TROOPS 4 SAFE SCHOOLS <<<<< Let's Make It Happen!

      I'm really pleased that some folks like the idea of hiring former service men and women for school security. I'm especially happy that quite a few gun owners and Second Amendment supporters are willing to pay a small ammunition tax to support a program that could…

      1– greatly improve school security;
      2– provide jobs for returning servicemen and women; and
      3– demonstrate we are compassionate citizens who are committed to the strengthening of school security.

      I haven't heard anyone on the outside promoting this idea. I haven't found any similar discussions online. So maybe it's up to US to organize and present a proposal to the public and elected officials. We can do that! We can talk it out, think it through, write a proposal, gather signatures from other gun owners, and then mail it to anyone who might read it.

      Does it make sense to create a semi-private online forum where we can develop the idea further before trying to take it to people who might listen?

      My thinking is that we need to focus this discussion and try to figure out a few more details about how this might work. We need a place to talk without being distracted by naysayers and detractors.

      Please email if you have any interest in participating. If you want me to start a private forum where we can meet and discuss, please let me know, and I will reply to your email with the forum address (yet to be set up). Better yet, if you are familiar with creating and running discussion forums, maybe you would want to do this for us. I have no experience running forums, but, if need be, I'll learn.

      I look forward to hearing from you. How great it would feel to get off of the sidelines and try to do something for the our troops, our young people, and the Second Amendment!

      – Shane
      grackle4689@yahoo.com

    • jimS December 18, 2012, 12:36 pm

      A breath of fresh air! Let’s get out of Afghanistan, raise taxes, and redirect revenue to funding putting at least 2 experience armed guards in every grade and high school (1 would be as helpless and vulnerable as a plate glass window) and increasing funding for mental health services and write better legislation for mandatory reporting by health provders (HIPAA doesn’t prohibit this) and eliminate home schooling (behaviors won’t be noticed if you’re hidden away at home. Te Founding Fathers created public education FOR A REASON) Do you really need a bushmaster with a drum clip to hunt varmint? I’ve done it effectively with a Sport King .22 and a Winchester 30-30, even with a bow! And let’s talk about those numbers on the petition website. In a democracy, laws should reflect the will of the majority. An 8-1 difference is a hell of a majority. I’m all for responsible gun ownership, it’s why I am an NRA member and on this site. The key word is RESPONSIBLE. Let’s have an adult conversation about what ‘responsible’ means.

  • Shane December 16, 2012, 11:51 pm

    Sorry for this choice of words, “This event is Connecticut.”

    I meant, “this TRAGEDY in Connecticut,” or better yet, “this ATROCITY in Connecticut.” Please, moderator, change the word for me if you approve my post. Thanks.

  • Joel December 17, 2012, 1:36 am

    Video games? really?! He didn’t go into the school armed with a joystick! He used an assault rifle. I am sure when the principle tried to over power him had he had a joystick, knife, or some other weapon she would have had a better chance. I respect one’s right to own a gun, but its time to renew the assault rifle ban.

    • Jim December 17, 2012, 8:38 am

      Joel,
      Do you really think an assault rifle ban would have stopped this? There are a huge number of guns, weapons and methods that are not “rifles with grips” that would have enabled the same result, many methods could have yielded even more. Is the solution to start with each tool used in these tragedies and sequentially outlaw everything?
      Had Lanza used pistols in his savagery, would you propose banning pistols?
      Do some research and you’ll see that there are countries that have solved this without banning firearms and you’ll also see other countries that have banned nearly everything that have had worse mass killings.
      Thinking with emotions rarely solves complex problems.

      • Albert Williams December 17, 2012, 12:24 pm

        Arguing which weapon was used is not going to solve anything, although some should get the facts right before they rant. The fact is we need well trained (armed) security in our schools. Easily funded by many different means! YES! it has come to this. If this make some people uncomfortable, too bad! I would rather they had to deal with that then have one innocent life forfeit. This is where legislation is needed, not gun control . P.S. I would like to see a window I could check on my Income tax form to donate to pay for security in our schools instead of wasting it on campaign contributions.

    • Infantryman December 17, 2012, 8:42 am

      He didn’t use an assault rifle dumb@$$, it was found in his trunk. he used pistols. see that is what the media does to the minds of the common citizen, it warps their mind. you are full of crap.

      • Paladin1940 December 17, 2012, 10:36 am

        Not true. It was initially reported he used only pistols, but later changed that he used the Bushmaster .223 and had a number of 30 round mags loaded. He had a problem when the gun jammed, then committed suicide.

        • Max December 17, 2012, 6:29 pm

          The true facts always surface later when it comes to the media, the rifle was found in the trunk of the car and was never fired at the scene, he used two handguns … the media wants you to believe it was a rifle so that they can further their agenda, dont believe what you hear or read with regards to the media as 100% it will make you look foolish and uninformed!

      • TCCO December 17, 2012, 11:33 am

        Wow. So you were there? Unfortunately once again the Media has done a very sloppy and irresponsible job of presenting facts before they are verified. The coroner indicated that all the deceased were killed with the rifle. So obviously it was not in the trunk. One of the reports I heard was there was actually a shotgun in the trunk, that he only used one of the two handguns on himself. But I wasn’t there and I cannot believe anything the so-called journalists report, so maybe time will reveal the real facts.

        • Gerard Gales December 17, 2012, 3:17 pm

          A firearm WAS found in his vehicle – a shotgun.

          There is a lesson there if you really look at it with opened and unbiased eyes.

          Why would he choose a high cap. firearm and two easy to carry firearms as opposed to a bulky low cap. shotgun with a slow rate of fire? Hmm….

    • RD December 17, 2012, 8:48 am

      Joel, the assault rifle that he had never left his car. You are perpetuating the media’s half truths. And to your other point, violent video games and violent images do effect people’s psyche.

      • Gerard Gales December 17, 2012, 3:19 pm

        False. A shotgun was found in his car. A Bushmaster and a large amount of magazines were found in the school.

        Inventing your own “truths” doesn’t make the facts “half truths”.

    • Bill Korp December 17, 2012, 10:02 am

      Joel,
      Everyone (gun control advocates) are acting in a very reactionary way. Think about this for minute. A gun (assault weapon, pistol, revolver etc) did not physically “walk” into that school in Sandy Hook/Newtown of it’s own accord and commit this reprehensible act against those poor innocents. It took a deranged mind along with a total disregard for Human Life to cause this tradgedy. Something set this person off, maybe an argument with his mother, or his brother. I don’t know if we will ever know what caused his twisted mind commit such a terrible act.
      Banning “assault weapons” is a waste of time and effort. Any weapon can be called an assault weapon.The real solution lies in identifying mental illness (or any other disorder that would cause someone to carry out such an indescribable horror), and taking the necessary steps to assure that these persons cannot get their hands on any kind of weapon, and not penalizing the law abiding citizen again. A household that has a mentally ill member and also has guns ( any kind of weapon) should be required by law to own a gun safe in which to safely store their weapons. This would be a further deterrent against someone like the murderer of these children in CT. Hindsight is always 100%, along with all the “if’s”, the “should of’s, or the “why’s”. This is the ideal time to become proactive to assure that the security of our schools cannot be easily compromised. The use of wire re-enforced glass in the windows and doors could possibly have been a great enough deterrent to allow the police time to arrive and stop the crime from happening. As you can see, many words can be used to describe ways to improve school security, or the security of any other public gathering place, but it will take action not written or spoken words. There are many in-expensive ways to lessen the vulnerability of our schools, from reinforced glass for windows and doors to an armed Police Officer/Security person in the school, or the use of Metal Detectors.
      The grim reality is that 27 precious lives were taken from us and that is what hurts the most.

  • Andy Keller December 17, 2012, 2:33 am

    Just another Excuse to try and take our Guns, The streets are overflowing with all of the Ding bats that have No Brains

  • DENNIS KELLY December 17, 2012, 2:39 am

    NO MORE GUN FREE ZONES!

  • mike huang December 17, 2012, 2:45 am

    I think he could not have killed all those people if he didn’t have a high capacity magazine. If he had to reload his gun 50 times, the cops would have gotten there and less people would have been hurt. I think limiting the number of rounds in a magazine is a fair compromise.

    • Jason December 17, 2012, 7:28 am

      Limiting the number of rounds in a magazine only works for law abiding folks. Do you think this guy was thinking “I can only take my limited capacity clips, I better take ten of ‘em”. Our only chance of stopping these horrible acts is to be armed just as good or better than the bad guy.

    • erik December 17, 2012, 7:30 am

      It takes about 2 second to reload. U really think that would have made the difference?

    • Joe December 17, 2012, 7:48 am

      Are you that stupid to think that reducing the volume will achive anything. Its all about the laws that good people are forced to follow. Lets say he only gets off ten shots, I hope your stupid ass catches all ten. That would be one way to prevent the carnage. Stand a dummy in front to stop the rounds.
      What’s the difference this guy would have used anything to inflict carnage. A bic pen can easly inflict mortal wounds.
      The means is not the issue. The mental state is. The moral value of life is. The capability to defend ones self and the innocent is. Why do you think the media has coined the phrase soft targets? Because the laws prevent good people from having the means to defend themselves.
      That’s what allowed this crazy man to do what he did.
      Spoons dont make people fat. There minds and habits do. So people like you would pass laws to remove spoons and think you accomplished somthing! How STUPID can you be. I wont let you take away my spoons, if you get my meaning dummy.

      • Jason December 17, 2012, 8:04 am

        Joe-exactly my original choice of words! I had to change it to be nicer. I’m keeping my spoons as well!

        • Mike December 17, 2012, 9:07 am

          Like mayor Dumburg taking 32oz drinks off the streets of NYC…. Please sir, could I have a carrier with my 2-16oz drinks?

  • Don Prince December 17, 2012, 2:59 am

    Well, I was ready to sign this – I fully believe that gun laws will not make us any safer, only more unsafe, and I fully rest the blame on the sick individual who did this, not what he used. BUT, I also don’t blame video games. I play Call of Duty, Halo, Assassins Creed, etc on occasion to relax and have NEVER even thought about doing something as horrid as this sick individual. You can’t blame video games either and they shouldn’t be brought into this. Pretty soon we’ll be debating whether Marilyn Manson lyrics made him do it (deja-vu anyone?). So, please petition the white house without the distractions that are invalid as well. Please also remember the heros and the fallen and forget this monster’s name.

    • Ryan Schurmann December 17, 2012, 8:11 am

      Don Prince you are totally right, I play some of the same games and something like that never cross my mind either. I won’t sign it either.

    • Dan December 17, 2012, 7:38 pm

      Just like all gun owners are not going to go on a senseless killing spree…neither are all those that play intensely violent video games…but some gun owners will and so will some game players. Do we start banning guns and video games to protect us from the few at the cost of freedoms of the many? I say no…we can instead increase the protection of the vulnerable without decreasing my capability to protect myself.

      Typical gun control advocates will say something like…nobody needs a 30 round assault weapon for hunting and the only purpose of an AR-15 is to kill people…and for the most part they would be they would be right. Many of us bought an AR-15 for the same reason law enforcement has them…to be better capable of protecting ourselves in unforeseeable situations where a S&W revolver is not going to cut it. You can bet many of the officers that responded had AR-15′s…why? Because they want to make sure they are as well armed as the bad guys they confront…same as me.

      I don’t like the idea that in a country where I have the right to keep and bear arms…the government would seek to decide for me just what kind of weapon I have a right to keep in order to make me feel safe…simply because they can’t figure out an effective way of stopping disturbed individuals from inflicting such pain and suffering.

      Texting while driving has caused the senseless deaths of more kids then all the gun toting lunatics combined. Yet, we haven’t heard the gun control advocates whining about the need to legislate a ban on cell phones with texting capabilities. Gun control legislation…isn’t about keeping our children safer…it is about a political agenda geared to chip away at the 2nd amendment. They want to take away our guns and they are seeking to use tragedies like this to sway public opinion.

  • Donald Bonner December 17, 2012, 3:26 am

    Any infringement on our bill of rights is treason Mr President, you took a sworn oath

  • Ronald Overholt December 17, 2012, 3:30 am

    It is a very sad thing that happened to those childern & adults .But as a gun owner I have to agree that another gun law would not have stopped Adam Lanza from doing what he did. As a law bibing citicen and gun owner , I beleive that we as gun owners should not have to give up any of our guns because of those people who do use them to kill. You can kill with bows and arrows , kitchens knives, baseball bats, a sharp stick etc.etc.etc.. So should the goverment ban all of those things to from all of us too. I don’t think so . The second ammendment says WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS, The goverment sends us to war and to fight for our country and put our lives on the line , and when and if we make it back home , the Goverment want to take our guns away from us law bideing citicens , thats just not right , we have not done anything wrong, So why punish us because other ill people kill others. MR. Preisdent look at reallity guns don,t kill people , people kill people , and they can us just about anything to do too. It just so happened that a gun is what Adam Lanza chose to use, ones that he stoled from his own mother.

    • david shaps December 17, 2012, 9:56 am

      perhaps you should read the second amendment once more, it is a right to “bear” arms…..and in 1791 when that was written, the arms that we could “bear” were black powder muzzle loading flintlock types, not AR-14′s…assault weapons were designed for one purpose only, the quick and efficient removal of humans from the battlefield, last time i looked, kindergarden classes were not in that catagory. Quite frankly, reading your post with its myriad miss-spellings and grammatical errors, makes one realize the type of uneducated riff-raff that push for these types of weapons are just the types to go out and use them on innocent persons. The reality is that in truth, guns don’t kill people, people with guns kill people. And that needs to stop.

      • paul December 17, 2012, 10:47 am

        While the firearms at the time the BOR was signed were single shot muskets, those were the world standard. The true fact here is that we need to be able to defend ourselves from attacks from every quarter, including our own government – that is what keeps us free. Local police should be limited to any weapons legal for a law abiding citizens to own (and carry). SWAT and other forces train with better arms and they should only be used in special circumstances.
        Limiting citizens to black powder or single shot weapons is counter-productive and would make law abiding people targets.

      • Lawrence Licata December 17, 2012, 11:33 am

        David Shaps. I also was put off slightly by Ronald Overholts “spelling and grammatical errors” but to label him as “uneducated riff-raff” truly insults me, and I am sure many others. But the truth of the matter is that you either are poorly educated or simply recite something that you found in a media clip or video.

        You mention that our forefathers used “black powder muzzle loading flintlock types, not AR-14′s…”, but do you know what an AR-14 is? I doubt that you know that the Armalite AR-14 was a predecessor to the AR-15/M16 rifle used by the military and that all of these firearms have select fire or full automatic firing modes – none of which are legal to own without special licensing.

        I state this in regard to the atrocity that occurred at the school. The “assault rifle” that POS Adam Lanza had in his possession was NOT in the same class of weapons. Also, the media conveniently omitted or misstated that the (semi-automatic) rifle was used in the attack when it had never been removed from Lanza’s car. That is one of the problems with our instantaneous media – they report hunches and rumors as fact and don’t seem to care if they ever correct such errors.

        Am I some radical, uneducated riff-raff? I think not, yet I was able to understand what Mr. Overholt was trying to say and can excuse the errors that you seem to find so offensive. Are you not capable of doing the same?

        BTW, the founding fathers did use firearms that were primitive by our standards but there were also far fewer laws concerning the use of such weapons. As the technology improved, laws were added to help maintain order in a civilized society. Unfortunately, laws, of any nature, are only upheld by those who are law abiding. As has been stated in many of the comments on this topic, another law will not deter the criminal element…after all, that is why they are called lawLESS.

      • RageFury December 17, 2012, 3:16 pm

        @david shaps
        Perhaps you should read the Second Amendment once more.

        “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”

        The Second Amendment does not specify what kind of “arms” we can “bear”, what kind they had upon its ratification is thus irrelevant. It is left open ended and undoubtedly by design as the Founders were quite intelligent. Thus any restriction on the “kind” can be considered an infringement that shall not be.
        Obviously citizens should not be running around with something like a Tactical Nuke, but let’s be serious here and use some common sense.

        • Max December 17, 2012, 6:44 pm

          RageFury, I applaud your comment and wish more were like minded and educated on the issue !

  • hutcher December 17, 2012, 3:36 am

    this is total bullshit–the cops waited to long–they–afraid to go in till they had-13 to go in before
    they went in to take care of this little prick- i would have taken my gun in–out of my trunk and stormed in kicken the door down– and facein him down–i’m sure i would have faced him down–pulled out my glock and before he raised his semi-auto matic–i would have shot him right between the eyes–and saved a few more lives–i would have droped him like a stack of dimes
    my name is hutcher–101st airborne–viet nam 66-67-68–i ain’t afraid of anybody-i’ll take him down one on one
    i don’t need to wait for 12 others to cover my back–putting on there flack jackets and jackin off

    • Joe December 17, 2012, 8:13 am

      Cops don’t have to put themselves in harm’s way to protect, or defend you or me. That is the law. The good people in the building can not defend themselves or the children with the use of a firearm. That is the law. You or I can’t come to the aide of people with the use of deadly force. That is the law. Only the lambs being lead to the slaughter obey the law. The laws prevent men and women from living out there lives. So now lets wright some more fucked up laws. Yea thats it more laws. Real good idea. I am sure there are many of you out there that think we should. ASSHOLES. The laws in this country are total bullshit.

  • robert ferrell December 17, 2012, 3:38 am

    DO NOT STEAL MY RIGHTS, Just for your political expediency!!!!!!

  • josh December 17, 2012, 3:44 am

    Speeding is illegal but it happens drugs are illegal but people use them parking in a fire zone is illegal but it happens ect…. point being just cause there are laws don’t mean they are fallowed

  • ronald overholt December 17, 2012, 3:46 am

    Guns don,t kill people, people kill people, thats what he chose to use was guns he stoled from his own mother. he was a very sick person .So us law bideing citicens and gun owners should not have to give up our guns . Anyone can kill with just about anything , kitchen knife, bow and arrows, a sharp stick etc.etc.etc. So I ask this, should all of those things be taking away too MR.PREISDENT , Do that right thing stop them from trying to take our guns away from us law bideing gun owners.

  • Daniel H. Ernst December 17, 2012, 3:58 am

    Dear Governor Snyder: <>
    Please sign the above-mentioned bill into law. We have nut cases loose all over this country, and I believe there are ENOUGH GUN LAWS on the books now; the problem being in the enforcement of said laws. This is good gun legislation for all. It gives those concerned the right to not have Conceal Carry on their premises, but as these times of escalating mental illness with the return of our veterans from foreign wars, and what Governor Engler did here in the state of Michigan, closing up the mental institutions really adds to the mentally impaired not receiving the proper care, and being on the loose. I don’t know which costs us more, waiting till they kill people and putting them into the revolving door of prison systems, or getting them into the proper institutions for the mental help treatment they so desperately need.
    The passing of this law will benefit us all, and people that oppose it talk a lot without having done their homework on how much good can be achieved. Look at Chicago, Illinois and the lives being lost due to a lack of good gun laws. Look at Los Angeles, and their California gun laws not working. The cost of training Conceal Carry Teachers verses putting police officers in all schools makes it plain to see that it is cost prohibitive to police our schools. The laws on the books now must be enforced without any exceptions, as what happened in Connecticut. Rules were not followed; don’t blame that situation on Legal Carry honest citizens. ATF needs more enforcement on the on-going selling of guns from trunks of cars. Again, don’t blame the honest citizens with proper Conceal Carry Permits that did all the proper training to have this right. Restricting the innocent in this country is becoming too commonplace in trying to control the guilty.
    Thank you for your REALISTIC consideration in the signing of this Bill.

    Daniel H.Ernst
    Warren, MI 48091-2431

  • BAM December 17, 2012, 4:00 am

    BO conspired to get this anti-gun campaign going ever since he has been in office – what makes you think he had nothing to do with this?

    • Twan December 17, 2012, 8:21 am

      What? Really? Are you that crazy, to believe the President had anything to do with this. You need to be evaluated.

    • Joe December 17, 2012, 8:25 am

      You know you may have something there !!!

    • bobo December 17, 2012, 12:47 pm

      I have had this thought for a while, what better way to disarm America than to have its citizens crying out for the removal of guns? Not his fault America is tired of shootings, Not the UN’s fault either. though they want a world wide ban and the right to investigate INSIDE the US borders. Who makes up the UN? Did OB know? I will not say he did and I hope to God he didn’t but there are others out there who would spend years working on an unstable kid, to drive him to do this, just to get the desired results. I realize this sounds far fetched, even crazy but it has happened over and over throughout the world and Children and Mothers have been slaughtered on a whim. It seems that some of the powerful people do not consider poor or middle class to be people at all, just sheep or ants to be used only to increase there incomes and to entertain them. Letting them have arms to defend themselves is a big no no…

  • Skip Motes December 17, 2012, 4:01 am

    Retired Deputy Sheriff 42 years Broward County Florida!

  • JAMES BENNETT December 17, 2012, 4:05 am

    People kill people with cars each day, and nobody is trying to ban cars. So way are the left wingers trying to ban my gun????

  • ronald porter December 17, 2012, 4:09 am

    I feel no gun law would have helped.This person had mental problems and had excess to firearms.This is as bad as alcohol and guns.niether are a good mix.I have a ideal,Place 1 or 2 people in the school that can defend these children.Be it puplic private or even a police officer.

  • Angela Wendel December 17, 2012, 4:10 am

    Americans have carried arms since the beginning, that’s how this nation was built and that is how it stands. No one has the right to take that privilege away, because it is our belief and OUR right to have! If you take away our guns you make this nation weak and vulnerable. Which honestly, that would be immensely foolish on your part! So I say on behalf of all true blooded Americans we will have the right to carry arms! God Bless America!!!

    • FirstSergeantUSA December 17, 2012, 5:16 pm

      History has repeated run in a cicular pattern………Slavery , Uprising and civil unrest, prosperity and indulgence, anarchy and lawlessness and Opression to slavery. We are at the 4th stage, going into the fifth and final stage. Every 200 years, check the history of any country for yourself. America will have another era of opression followed by slavery.

  • Joseph Schlosser December 17, 2012, 4:16 am

    The common thread of what can be done to prevent the slaughter of innocents is;
    What can we do to prevent this from happening again?
    In as much as evil does exist and that alone could qualify as a reason for this
    horror, we can assess a few other things.

    The same liberals who are clamoring for new gun restrictions and all out weapon
    bans need to take ownership of what has happened in Connecticut and for past
    like murders.

    Maybe we should be looking at the desensitizing effects to our youth by the
    violent content of movies, television and video games.This cultural malignancy
    of violence is everywhere.
    Whenever a call is made to reign in the violence and restrict it’s content and
    availability to our children, it is the liberals who invoke 1st amendment
    protection.

    For those you who have law enforcement experience, you may recall that about 30
    years ago, the bleeding hearts had the mental health codes changed. They made
    mental health a community based health care issue which had the following
    effects. The DSMR (diagnostic mental health codes) was radically changed to make
    it more difficult to hospitalize and keep mental health patients in a MH care
    facility. They basically opened the doors and let them out. Out on the streets
    came dangerous MH patients who were safely confined and forced to take the
    medication that rendered them somewhat harmless. Another result was that a MH
    patient could not be forced to take medications against their will.
    Society has been paying the price ever since.
    How often do we see un-medicated MH patients criminally charged with violent
    crimes? And how often do we see extraordinary litigation to compel a MH patient
    to take their medication? We now live in a dangerous society. The current MH
    code makes it much more difficult to hospitalize these people.
    The signs were there. Our hands were tied. The bleeding hearts now have 27 more
    victims to add to the victim list. If you want to make society safer, start with
    the mental health codes and and our propensity for violence and keep your hands
    off our right to keep and bear arms.

    Joe “Doc” Schlosser

    • Gerard Gales December 17, 2012, 3:23 pm

      Then why does this not happen at such regularity in Canada? They watch the same moves, play the same video games, and listen to the same music. So does most of Europe.

  • BILLIE December 17, 2012, 4:19 am

    I ONLY HOPE WE CAN STOP THE LIBERALS OF THIS COUNTRY FROM TAKING OUR 2ND. AMENDMENT RIGHTS AWAY? OBAMA & HIS “CLAN” OF MOBSTERS WILL TRY ANYTHING TO TAKE AWAY WHAT LITTLE RIGHTS WE HAVE LEFT? IF ONLY ONE TEACHER WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO CARRY THOSE CHILDREN COULD BE ALIVE TODAY? O,BAMA WILL USE THE DEATH OF THESE INNOSCENT CHILDREN TO ADVANCE HIS SOCIALISMN CAUSE AGAINST THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS! NOT HIS BUT YOU & I ??

  • GEORGE D. ZEBRE December 17, 2012, 4:22 am

    I’M A WYOMING GUN TOTIN’ DEMOCRAT BELIEVING FULLY IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

  • Mike Hyder December 17, 2012, 4:33 am

    We need to keep our bill of rights in tact.

  • normsw December 17, 2012, 4:35 am

    No doubt the antigun sector is hard at work pressing local, state and federal reps to institute more (and more stringent) gun controls. This is a huge waste; what they need to do is root out the mentally unstable, disarm them where needed, and treat and/or incarcerate them, until, if possible, they can be rehabilitated.

  • Pitts Launey December 17, 2012, 4:39 am

    Louis McCain nailed it. BO and the Clintons would like nothing more than to disarm America, so they can get to the real business of rounding up all those irritating Constitutional patriots that stand in his way. Yes, I would be proud to sign.

  • CIA December 17, 2012, 4:39 am

    toda reación de proyección cadenas se sustenta en una fuerza opuesta en su expectro-s Brana esto es un 5% de la actividad solar.

    • Ross December 17, 2012, 8:59 am

      English please translate, thank you

  • G. Tracy December 17, 2012, 4:47 am

    AMEN! The only realistic approach to stopping the current Fad of shooting up our schools is to eliminate the prohibitions which are in place that have made them into a “Target Rich Enmvironment”! Any responsable adult who is trustworthy enough to be left unsupervised with my children has my permission and encouragement to train themself to defend themselves and my children by whatever means necessary. Had this been an option to the staff of our schools over the past 40 years we would have nothing to discuss now!

    Guns do not cause crime! Kennesaw, Georgia, USA, has celebrated 33+ years of zero Murder/Violent crime Since enacting a law stipulating that households must have at least one firearm! How many murders have occurred in Chicago, Illinois or New York City in the last year alone where guns are heavily restricted if not practically banned?

    • Shane December 18, 2012, 5:43 am

      G. Tracy. I’m a teacher and a gun owner with a carry permit. I’m certified as an NRA instructor and have run shooting ranges at Boy Scout camps. I like guns. I like teaching. And though I very much appreciate your faith in the people of my profession, I’d like to offer some of my reflections.

      Even with basic defensive training, teachers probably will not receive enough preparation for what it is like to be under fire. Almost none will have experienced a gunfight. While I like to think I would have the courage to engage in a firefight to protect your kids, I have never been tested. I’m mature enough now, wise enough maybe, to admit to that.

      If I could carry in the classroom, would I do so?

      Maybe. I do trust myself to handle a firearm safely. I suppose that if most teachers received a few weeks training they would be able to do the same and to effectively engage a paper target. We also undergo excessively thorough and intrusive background checks these days. So I guess, yes, maybe if the political situation permitted, it would not be a bad idea for some teachers to carry.

      However, we must realize that students are constantly vying for their teacher’s attention. We cannot be watching for a security threat while helping a kid open his locker or instructing a science lab with 30 seventh graders. By the time we notice the threat, the shooting may already have begun. That is why I would much prefer a security officer who is specifically trained for school security, and whose ONLY job is to look for threats and to neutralize them. Armed teachers could then provide backup or additional security for students who have been sequestered in another part of the building. But I believe that a professional full-time security officer would be more likely to stop a massacre before it gets started than five or ten armed teachers whose attention is rightly on their students.

      I would love to see our country offer those security officer careers to former servicemen and servicewomen after a period of training for their new civilian mission: the protection of VIPs.

  • James Getford December 17, 2012, 4:52 am

    Concerned American

  • skooter December 17, 2012, 4:54 am

    First, I think, whether or not he really is legal to be president. Get the docs. and papers and lets go to town getting this Islamic president out of office. Didn’t he force (threaten) some people that were in a position to expose him with threats of ???
    I believe our Lord would have given us all Barett .50′s with the new s.a.w. repacement.

  • Robert E. Werkheiser December 17, 2012, 4:55 am

    I am 68 years old , and a gun owner all my life. A range shooter and hunter and keep all my firearms locked in a safe, bolted to the floor and wall . I do not keep loaded weapens in the home and and have children and grand children and great grand children.
    People kill people , not guns. We live in a culture that has no values and do not want God in the equation , where good values and respect for others begins . A lot of young people spend excessive amounts of time playing computer games that brain wash them and they become desensitized to feeling and compassion for other people.

    • Joe December 17, 2012, 8:40 am

      I could not have said it any better than you did sir. Please enjoy your holidays.
      I wish good luck to you and your family.

  • Gregg A von Fossen December 17, 2012, 5:06 am

    Please honor the Second Amendment.

  • evelyn allison December 17, 2012, 5:11 am

    sorry for the famlies of these poor kids

  • Maurizio Mesiti December 17, 2012, 5:19 am

    These things should not happen but unfortunatly they do, and most of the time just for careless of people around the perpetretor

  • Rhys Roemhildt December 17, 2012, 5:20 am

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make this worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants: they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man”

    Thomas Jefferson’s
    “Commonplace Book”

    • Joe December 17, 2012, 8:53 am

      Thomas Jefferson would have been all over Obama and his screwed up ideas on how to run a country. Who put this guy in-charge anyway, sure wasen’t me. Cant wate for the lame duck to be out! Hope it doesn’t take long to fix what he is screwing up! We need the Masons to go after this guy and provent him from tearing this country apart.

  • Scott Beverly December 17, 2012, 5:22 am

    Dear Mr. President,
    My heart was broken when I was informed of the shooting, murdereous rampage that took place, and yes we have experienced far to many of similar situations in our past. Gun control should take place at home. Responsible gun owners should keep their firearms locked up or on their persons, and can not be responsible for events that occur if their firearms are stolen. People that commit such terrible crimes do not care about laws. They simply want to destroy lives. I strongly urge you to not buckle to the folks that want to rip the 2 nd Amendment from our constitution, but work with people to come up with ways to recognize when disturbe people need help, whether it be therapy, detained, imprisonment, etc.. I find it extremly difficult to believe that there was not warning signs from the killer before the shooting took place. If those weapons were locked up in a gun safe, he would not have had access to them. My two cents worth.

  • joseph December 17, 2012, 5:24 am

    For all the sorry apes in the world blaming obaama for shit let me educate you a little, the masasacreat that school wasn’t about legislation or gun laws, it is about will and those in power (the rich and wealthy) will stay in power by using our humanity to convince us to give up a advantage that has kept them from crossing a line they been itching to jump since the very start. Haven’t anyone noticed the pattern of the shootings, noticed how they all seem to begin when obamas elected? The shooting got worse & worse now children are dead and people blame obama, this was a tragedy beyond imagination and they know placing a label like insane on the person who did it gives that person and excuse meaning he’s not to blame? Some chose obama but most chose guns because guns can be banned and destroyed and those in cotrol know this they killed a bunch of kids so that people with a soul can fight against guns and their evil and after this tragedy those people are the majority now and once the people have no guns thet will have no hope of fighting against the horrors still to come at their hands….

    • paul December 17, 2012, 11:11 am

      How correct you are. The one world government supporters have their ideas about pulling their citizens’ teeth. They are limiting citizens rights and increasing the gun power on their own authority. In the end, it won’t matter what political party you belong to, they will be their for your guns and ammo. Voting Republican will not save you, but it might stem the tide for a while.
      The military uses video games, capture the flag and paint ball guns, to de-humanize the targets. These affect everyone to a degree. Yes, I believe these mass shooters are mentally deranged, so these games do more harm than good. Guns are not toys, please use the responsively.

  • Fred Maloney December 17, 2012, 5:27 am

    That young man should not have been able to get past the front door. All schools should have armed guards. My brother works at one school in Georgia and he remarks of all the security needed to secure school ground day and night, even at school games held on the property.

  • Denny Fender December 17, 2012, 5:30 am

    Guns don’t pull there own triggers.

  • dave December 17, 2012, 5:34 am

    GUNS WERE JUST A CONVENIENT TOOL IN THE HANDS OF A PERSON HAVING A PSYCHOTIC EPISODE. REMOVE THE SOCIAL STIGMA OF MENTAL ILLNESS, MAKE MEDICATION A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR ALL WITH A PSYCHOSIS, POSSIBLE WITH AN IMPLANTABLE PUMP. MAKE TREATMENT FREE FOR ALL WHO SUFFER. PAY FOR THIS WITH HUGE TAXES ON ALL ALCOHOL/TOBACCO SALES.

  • joe bernstein December 17, 2012, 5:34 am

    Mass punishment of law abiding gun owners over crimes committed by other persons is against the sense of the Constitution.

  • Larry Clark December 17, 2012, 5:42 am

    1. The very act of petitioning to avoid “politicization” is, in fact, a political act. That’s the logic bomb for this petition.

    2. In the minds of many, organized gun owners are characterized by being “against”. Against registration. Against closing the Gun Show Loophole. Against assault weapons and large magazine bans. So the question in my mind is, “What is the collective of organized gun owners FOR?”

    Isn’t it time for the gun owners, perhaps led by the NRA, to get out in front of this issue? Isn’t it time to lead on the issue of protecting rights AND making America safer? Gun owners don’t have to stay in the narrow lane of ownership and the 2nd Amendment (which, by the way, isn’t much of an issue any more). No one answer is going to do anything — and it takes a pretty narrow perspective to assume that increasing gun ownership is going result in fewer Americans injured or dead from firearms.

    Lead. Offer America a holistic solution.

    • Hugh December 17, 2012, 8:04 am

      Thank you Sir, for a reasoned and coherent response. It’s disappointing to read through the majority of the responses above which use the same tired characterizations and slogans which are grossly inaccurate and unhelpful. Ignorance can be cured…. stupidity can’t.

  • steven arbeiter December 17, 2012, 6:01 am

    This is about freedom and when government takes from their people then we have lost our right to be free! Why should the president want to suppress his people, they will only rise up in revolt, let us protect ourselves, as we do not need another Civil War and does our president really think that our soldiers would kill americans just for him I think that he should think hard and long, just because he might be from Illinois does not mean he could be another Lincoln!!!!! If you are a law abiding citizen then there should be no problems!!! Right now I am visiting a friend in the Ukraine and this is the first time for me out of the USA this visit has opened my eyes to how great our country is so let us be free and please quit manipulating our constitution!!!

  • James Jones December 17, 2012, 6:03 am

    Dear Mr. President,

    Tragedy is a time when a President has to let go of the politics and cry with the people. But as the tears dry and the anger kicks in, the politics usually come back, and that is what is happening in the case of the tragedy of Adam Lanza. Already the media is suggesting that gun control could somehow have prevented the murder of the 27 innocents in Newtown Connecticut, and as you almost definitely already know, this is not the truth. Gun control may have actually been partially responsible for the tragedy, because all of the potential protectors in that school were disarmed by state law. Adam Lanza did not care what laws he was breaking on December 14th, 2012, and another law would not have gotten in his way. The real question is what made this disturbed young man into a murderer of children, and that certainly was not the availability of guns.

    We are not the gun lobby Mr. President. We are America’s law abiding gun owners, and we would have all died with Victoria Soto and Dawn Hochsprung in defending the children with only our bodies on December 14th. Every single one of us would have obeyed the Connecticut law that mandated no guns on school property and left our guns at home. Gun owners are among the most law abiding of Americans, Mr. President, and we deserve your consideration to step aside from the politics and support the truth about this tragedy, not the political agenda put forth by the media and those who would compromise our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Adam Lanza did use guns to kill his victims, but a gun is just an inert piece of plastic and steel. Without the addition of human will and a willingness to kill, a gun is no different than any other potentially dangerous object. In this time of tragedy there is no point making this letter a statistical analysis, because you already know the statistics Mr. President, and you know that guns are used to defend the lives of innocents far more than they are used to take the lives of innocents. Cars, plastic bags and swimming pools are all responsible for exponentially more accidental deaths of children every year than guns, yet none of them are blamed for the deaths. These killings of 27 people in Connecticut were not accidents, but Adam Lanza would have used whatever means possible to commit this crime. He tried to buy a gun legally and couldn’t, so he stole the guns from his mother. Another law in his way would not have stopped the bloodshed, because Adam Lanza, like all criminals, didn’t care what laws got in his way. He was clearly going to do this one way or the other.

    Guns or not, Adam Lanza had to be willing to walk into that school and start shooting like he did, as if he were in a video game. But where is the outrage for the violent video games that Adam Lanza played? Was he a fan of “The Walking Dead,” a TV show that is teaching our young people that they may have to someday kill their neighbors when they turn into zombies? On Youtube it is possible to watch helmet cams from soldiers in Afghanistan, firing at a living and breathing enemy. If you were to weigh the factors of what led Adam Lanza to feel justified in killing schoolchildren on December 14th, how much of that blame do you think would really fall on the availability of inert pieces of plastic and steel?

    Nobody expects newly re-elected President Barack Obama to stand up and call for a law forbidding the states to ban lawful carry of a firearm on school campuses. And certainly nobody expects you to call for an end to violence in the movies, on television and in video games when so much of your support came from the entertainment industry. But during the debates you had the courage to stand up and admit that “assault weapons” were not the problem with street crime. You also didn’t claim to have an answer to the inexpensive handguns in the hands of those street criminals, but you probably do know the answer Mr. President. It is to get more cheap handguns into the hands of inner city law abiding Americans. More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens always equals less crime, and that will be as true on school campuses as it is every other place it has been tried.

    Nobody knows what would have happened at that school had a few of the teachers been armed on December 14th. Guns don’t always prevent evil from winning. At best, guns in the hands of the good girls and guys only give us a shot at beating evil, and evil is a determined enemy. In a perfect world we would all live without violence or tragedy of any kind, but this is not a perfect world. There will be violence, and there will be tragedy, no matter what laws we try to use to prevent it. As America’s law abiding gun owners, we ask you to stand with us, Mr. President, and just speak the truth about this awful thing. Another gun law or laws wouldn’t have stopped Adam Lanza. It is an insult to the victims and to the heroines who gave their lives trying to stop Adam Lanza to suggest that any one thing could have prevented this terrible tragedy. All we ask is that you step aside from the politics and the pandering and speak the truth Mr. President. The media frenzy is well underway, and America’s law abiding gun owners don’t deserve the blame for Adam Lanza. You don’t need to get re-elected again Mr. President. Please support us in this time of tragedy.

  • Takecarewhat U. Sign December 17, 2012, 6:09 am

    It remains to be seen as to if I will sign this letter or not. I guess I feel some of the statements are not well put or don’t belong. But the one copied and pasted following for sure makes no sense as how if “not with gun”, could he “start shooting”?

    Guns or not, Adam Lanza had to be willing to walk into that school and start shooting like he did, as if he were in a video game.

    • Joseph Schlosser December 17, 2012, 8:30 am

      Takecare…hit the the nail square on.
      See my earlier post.

  • Ron December 17, 2012, 6:09 am

    All the gun legislation wold not have prevented this or any of the other school shootings that have happened recently. Something happens to push these kids over the edge. Why isn’t the issue of some of the video games these kids play being addressed. Games these days have some very real graphics, and when you are shooting someone and blowing things up, I can understand where it would be easy to eventually become desensitized to any kind of violence. Let’s find out where the problem starts, passing more laws after a tragedy has occured simply won’t change anything.

  • Ken Meredith December 17, 2012, 6:12 am

    Banning guns will not stop criminals from gaining access to them.The school shootings were a terrible tragedy.Our school district has now hired retired State Troopers and armed them to protect our students.I think this is a good idea.

  • tony bradley December 17, 2012, 6:14 am

    Guns dont kill people
    people kill people
    There is nothing you can do to protect your self from crazy people except
    Letting sane people cary concealed weapons

  • Steve Bass December 17, 2012, 6:21 am

    Agree

  • Russell Middleton December 17, 2012, 6:22 am

    International Humanitarian Law specifically the Geneva Convention, 12 August 1949, expressly forbids collective penalties. Yet, in the post Newtown, Connecticut, tragedy, the clamouring to do something bears a striking resemblance to just that. The British media is drawing numerous parallels to their own 1996 tragedy at Dunblane and proposing a similar legislative response. What is glaringly absent from the British finger waving and tongue clicking about those crazy Americans and their guns is a conscious awareness of nearly a century of ‘reasonable’ gun-control that laid the foundation for their Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997. (As outlined in 22 Hamline L. Rev. 399-465 (1999) a.k.a. ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE: GUN PROHIBITION IN ENGLAND AND SOME LESSONS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES IN AMERICA by Joseph E. Olson and David B. Kopel.) In away we should thank Britain and its constituent parts, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, for running this large scale test of gun prohibition on an island nation. Scotland’s Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill, is further tweaking the social experiment by calling for the registration of low power air-guns in the face of a 50% reduction in firearms crime since 2006-07. One wonders where it will all end?

  • Matthew Powers December 17, 2012, 6:23 am

    EVIL MEN HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE DAWN OF MAN,,LONG BEFORE GUNS WERE INVENTED,A GUN IS ONLY A GUN UNTIL AN EVIL PERSON COMES ALONG ,AND PICKS IT UP,,NOW IT BECOMES A WEAPON,THE KILLING OF THESE BABIES,AND THEIR TEACHERS WAS PURE TRAGEDY,AND ALSO PURE EVIL. THIS WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST THOUGH AS LONG AS WE HAVE NO DETERRENT AGAINST IT..IF THERE IS NO PRICE TO PAY (THE DEATH PENALTY) FOR SUCH CRIMES THEY WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AROUND THIS NATION. TO BLAME THE GUN IS TO FALSELY ACCUSE AN INANIMATE OBJECT CAPABLE OF DOING NO HARM ON ITS OWN,A GUN LEFT TO ITS OWN MEANS FOR A THOUSAND YEARS WILL SIMPLY RUST AWAY,HARMLESSLY ,BUT IN THE HANDS OF THE EVIL ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO KNOW THERE IS NOT A SEVERE PRICE TO PAY FOR THEIR ACTIONS BECOMES A MEANS OF DEVASTATION. WE DON’T NEED NEW LAWS TO PUNISH THOSE WHO USE THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS (NOT PRIVILEGES) WE NEED TO USE OUR CURRENT LAWS TO EXECUTE THOSE WHO WOULD HARM CHILDREN AND TEACHERS,BUT OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT IN ITS GREAT WISDOM THINKS TO PUNISH ALL FOR THE SAKE OF THIS EVIL ACT IS JUSTICE ?? ARE THE GOVERNMENT ELECTED,BLIND ,STUPID ?,..THEY ARE ALWAYS SAYING WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS,,NOW IS THEIR CHANCE TO PROVE IT,AND BRING JUSTICE FOR THESE UNARMED AND UNPROTECTED CHILDREN AND TEACHERS!! IF THEY DON’T WHO IS THE REAL CRIMINAL HERE?? ARM OUR NATION NOW !! IF NOT WE ALL WILL BE THE CHILDREN TO BE PERSECUTED BY THE EVIL,AND TOTALLY UNPROTECTED,LONG LIVE FREEDOM AND THE RIGHTS OF MEN,WOMEN,AND CHILDREN TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND FAMILY,AND THEIR PROPERTY WITH THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

  • Alton Beauchamp December 17, 2012, 6:24 am

    I think that someone in every school class should be packing!

  • Daniel Forbeck December 17, 2012, 6:26 am

    Dear Mr. President,

    Tragedy is a time when a President has to let go of the politics and cry with the people. But as the tears dry and the anger kicks in, the politics usually come back, and that is what is happening in the case of the tragedy of Adam Lanza. Already the media is suggesting that gun control could somehow have prevented the murder of the 27 innocents in Newtown Connecticut, and as you almost definitely already know, this is not the truth. Gun control may have actually been partially responsible for the tragedy, because all of the potential protectors in that school were disarmed by state law. Adam Lanza did not care what laws he was breaking on December 14th, 2012, and another law would not have gotten in his way. The real question is what made this disturbed young man into a murderer of children, and that certainly was not the availability of guns.

    We are not the gun lobby Mr. President. We are America’s law abiding gun owners, and we would have all died with Victoria Soto and Dawn Hochsprung in defending the children with only our bodies on December 14th. Every single one of us would have obeyed the Connecticut law that mandated no guns on school property and left our guns at home. Gun owners are among the most law abiding of Americans, Mr. President, and we deserve your consideration to step aside from the politics and support the truth about this tragedy, not the political agenda put forth by the media and those who would compromise our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Adam Lanza did use guns to kill his victims, but a gun is just an inert piece of plastic and steel. Without the addition of human will and a willingness to kill, a gun is no different than any other potentially dangerous object. In this time of tragedy there is no point making this letter a statistical analysis, because you already know the statistics Mr. President, and you know that guns are used to defend the lives of innocents far more than they are used to take the lives of innocents. Cars, plastic bags and swimming pools are all responsible for exponentially more accidental deaths of children every year than guns, yet none of them are blamed for the deaths. These killings of 27 people in Connecticut were not accidents, but Adam Lanza would have used whatever means possible to commit this crime. He tried to buy a gun legally and couldn’t, so he stole the guns from his mother. Another law in his way would not have stopped the bloodshed, because Adam Lanza, like all criminals, didn’t care what laws got in his way. He was clearly going to do this one way or the other.

    Guns or not, Adam Lanza had to be willing to walk into that school and start shooting like he did, as if he were in a video game. But where is the outrage for the violent video games that Adam Lanza played? Was he a fan of “The Walking Dead,” a TV show that is teaching our young people that they may have to someday kill their neighbors when they turn into zombies? On Youtube it is possible to watch helmet cams from soldiers in Afghanistan, firing at a living and breathing enemy. If you were to weigh the factors of what led Adam Lanza to feel justified in killing schoolchildren on December 14th, how much of that blame do you think would really fall on the availability of inert pieces of plastic and steel?

    Nobody expects newly re-elected President Barack Obama to stand up and call for a law forbidding the states to ban lawful carry of a firearm on school campuses. And certainly nobody expects you to call for an end to violence in the movies, on television and in video games when so much of your support came from the entertainment industry. But during the debates you had the courage to stand up and admit that “assault weapons” were not the problem with street crime. You also didn’t claim to have an answer to the inexpensive handguns in the hands of those street criminals, but you probably do know the answer Mr. President. It is to get more cheap handguns into the hands of inner city law abiding Americans. More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens always equals less crime, and that will be as true on school campuses as it is every other place it has been tried.

    Nobody knows what would have happened at that school had a few of the teachers been armed on December 14th. Guns don’t always prevent evil from winning. At best, guns in the hands of the good girls and guys only give us a shot at beating evil, and evil is a determined enemy. In a perfect world we would all live without violence or tragedy of any kind, but this is not a perfect world. There will be violence, and there will be tragedy, no matter what laws we try to use to prevent it. As America’s law abiding gun owners, we ask you to stand with us, Mr. President, and just speak the truth about this awful thing. Another gun law or laws wouldn’t have stopped Adam Lanza. It is an insult to the victims and to the heroines who gave their lives trying to stop Adam Lanza to suggest that any one thing could have prevented this terrible tragedy. All we ask is that you step aside from the politics and the pandering and speak the truth Mr. President. The media frenzy is well underway, and America’s law abiding gun owners don’t deserve the blame for Adam Lanza. You don’t need to get re-elected again Mr. President. Please support us in this time of tragedy.

    Daniel Forbeck

  • Pete Troy December 17, 2012, 6:27 am

    .We the law abiding gun owners are saddened, and our hearts go out to the parents who are experenceing this tragedy But remember that guns donot kill people but people with guns kill people.

  • Chuck December 17, 2012, 6:28 am

    An armed society is a polite society. In the society in which we live it is our responsibility as citizens to protect ourselves, our loved ones and our property from the intrusive evil forces forever lingering in the fringe of daily private life. Our government cannot and will never legislate the presence of predators out of existence and unfortunately a “first alerter” will always show up after the deed is done. Training, certifying, and arming American school teachers is the only way to prevent or minimize these type of tragedies or ban all public schools and incorporate a governmental home schooling mandate but that would contradict the ideas behind the founding of this Republic.

  • James Neuenschwander December 17, 2012, 6:38 am

    A criminal will allways find a gun,good people who carry guns and belive in the SECOND AMENDMENT they are not the ones to fear . Taking away our guns is not the answer James A. Neuenschwander

  • Mike Baker December 17, 2012, 6:39 am

    Mr President, Guns do not kill people, the finger that pulls the trigger kills. What’s behind the finger pulling the trigger? The depleted morals of our society, broken familys, violence encouraged and promoted through Hollywood and the entertainment industry. What do you allow your daughters to particicpate in or watch? Todays society is all about the weakening dollar and what you can get for free. The only problem with that is, the only thing free is salvation.

  • Dennis Cermak December 17, 2012, 6:40 am

    It is true, all the video games these deranged kids and people play are why there are so many killings. I see it because I have witnessed it. Blame the media for promoting them not the normal homeowner.

  • Steven L. Hamling December 17, 2012, 6:43 am

    make the punishment more real punishment and not just a light slap on the wrist. make ALL capital offenses federal and take the option of seeking death away from the states

  • Kristian Kennedy December 17, 2012, 6:45 am

    Please help protect our rights.

  • Chris Fleitman December 17, 2012, 6:48 am

    I’ve been watching our constitution get torn into little pieces bit by bit since the days of 911 and when DHS was formed. What we need to do is go back to 1999 and see where everything started to go wrong. The president needs to remember that sucky presidents kill people, not guns, but they still get re-elected.

  • John December 17, 2012, 6:49 am

    This is a sad situation not caused by guns but by a societal failure to provide adequate mental health services. Guns can’t do anything by themselves. Our society is almost completely without basic morality, not to be confused with religion, but simple responsibility and respect for others. These attributes are in short supply at the moment.
    Mrs. Lanza had four or five guns which are being described as an extensive gun collection. She is further described as a paranoid prepper.
    The best course of action is to think and then act; not react and then think.

    • Ryan Jones December 17, 2012, 8:39 am

      Well said John. Back in the 50′s and 60′s guns used to be a part of mainstream culture. Everyone knew how of someone who had a gun and those people felt safe because they could rely on one another in case something bad happened. But after Kennedy closed all of the mental health centers, society became a not so safe place. So since then guns have been what with bad people doing bad things and that’s simply not the case. The simple fear is so ingrained into today’s society that a normal person is looked down upon by mainstream media which in itself is pathetic. But what makes the media hypocritical is how it shows how cool guns and violence in movies and TV. Yet Hollywood prides itself on being anti gun. It’s like here enjoy all of this “entertainment” but be a victim in real life and don’t use your right to genetics it’s stunningly hypocritical. I how there’s some sense that goes into thinking of any know legislation down the road since it seems we’re headed down that path.

  • nvrpc December 17, 2012, 6:50 am

    The Bottom-line on Gun Control

    The debate over gun control, for or against the private ownership of firearms can go on and on, but it boils down to this: When the government of the United States bans the possession and use of all privately owned firearms and proceeds to confiscate them; there are those who will give in to oppression submissively, and there are those who will resist until they are killed by the government.

    When these people are killed, they will be labeled as evil outlaws, but in reality they will be the last true defenders of freedom and civil rights. Those that remain; the national and state police forces, the unarmed peasants, and the true evil outlaws with firearms, will come to believe that only the dead have found the true peace that they all foolishly believed would come after this act of oppression.
    K. Jeter 1992

    • John Roefaro December 19, 2012, 6:12 am

      TRUE

  • Susan December 17, 2012, 6:53 am

    The ones that have the guns have been taught to respect the gun and the criminal dosent care, The criminal will get a gun anywhere if he really wants it. So why can’t the citizens of the USA be aloud to protect themselves from the one who can get guns if they want to. Guns dont kill Man (women) do.

  • Bob December 17, 2012, 6:55 am

    My name is Bob Baker & I am from Nova Scotia, Canada. I would think the people from the USA might have learned something from your northern cousins (us Canadains), our government tried for years to implement strict gun laws & all it cost us is millions & millions of taxpayers money with absulutly no effect on any effect on crimes committed with any firearms.

    Unless you can educate the warped minds of disturbed people, all the money in the world won’t change a thing.

    With the economy the way it is, Please don’t make the same mistake our Country did, & waste a lot of time & money on something like gun control.

    Bob

  • Allan Baver December 17, 2012, 6:57 am

    As a legal firearms permit holder, firearms instructor and former police officer, I am saddened by the chain of events that occurred in our wonderful state of CT.
    My heart goes out to all.

    We have so many laws on the books that did not stop this sick individual from his actions. The only justice is, he had taken his life. We do not have to spend one cent to keep him in a cell for the rest of his life, since we have not sent anyone to the electric chair for many years.

    We all know, you can’t have a police officer in every home or at every street corner. I wish I could have been there like many legal gun owners. I would have given my life for 1 of those children or teachers in an effort to stop this sick individual.

    We have these video games of killing, that we allow our children to play. The realism and graphics make killing and getting killed easy. The children start again after showing they were killed. Who knows how many times these young minds believe they can be killed and come back? We do not know why this sick individual committed this horrific act.

    Most every employer prohibits weapons of any kind in the workplace, except police, security and military.
    I am well aware of the laws. If someone should ever, ever, try to commit deadly physical force against myself or any third person(s), I would use reasonable force, including deadly physical force to protect myself or others to stop this type of violence. I am no longer a sworn officer, but I will never forget what I have learned what training I received.

    I look at the little girl that was stabbed to death by a mental patient that walked away from a mental facility years ago. This little girl was stabbed numerous times and nobody came to this little innocent girls assistance.
    Society watched in horror as this sick man kept stabbing this little girl to death.
    What about the sick individual that attacked his girlfriend at a bus stop with a long bladed knife/sword as the woman pushed her child into a bystanders arms as she was hacked to death right in front of her child.
    What is wrong with our society today, where you can help prevent further injuries or death by attempting to stop these acts. Pickup a trash can, branch, rock, belt and yes, firearm to stop further injury or death. Use whatever force needed to stop these individuals, including deadly force, providing you firmly believe your life or a third persons will come to an end.

    I emphasize we all become familiar with the laws and definitions of, Reasonable Force, Deadly Force, Dangerous Weapons/Instruments, Deadly weapons. Take a close look at the CT General Statues, specifically, Rape, Robbery, Arson, Burglary and Assault.
    There is a LOT of Responsibility for owning, transporting and using firearms in this great state of CT and all of America.

    Yes, I own firearms. I shoot in competition, hunt and carry to protect myself or others, God forbid anything should ever happen wherever I maybe. Yes, I would call 911 and summon police and do anything I could to assist at that moment. I would place myself in harms way.
    It is early, I’m tired and sick of hearing the media use their power of sensationalism for the purpose of banning firearms. Yes, we get the message, however we as gun owners do not want to feel as if we have done anything wrong.

    Pardon my spelling or sentence structure. After all, it was never my strength.

    Respectfully,
    Allan Baver

  • Randall Schwartz December 17, 2012, 6:57 am

    The only gun law that makes sense to me,is if you own an assault weapon,you are resonsible for it to a degree.You should have proof of a lockable steel gun safe to keep it in.If someone leaves one out,and it is stolen,you have broken a law.If they break into your safe,then you did all that you could.If you drive a vehichle in my state,you need proof of insurance.I think if they make any new laws,this one should be considered.Every sane American over the age of 21,should be able to carry a gun.America makes new enemies all of the time.Who can guarantee me that we will never be invaded.I would be a better Paitriot with an assault weapon in my hand,insead of a rock.Other countries know that our citizens are armed,and would be a threat to them.Mr.President,don’t take that threat away!

  • Allen Jelliffe December 17, 2012, 6:58 am

    A sad tragedy. We should concentrate on Mental Health issues. Punishment should not be against law abiding gun owners.

  • Joseph December 17, 2012, 6:59 am

    ban the violence in hollywood. some of the idiots has a brain of a nat could’nt think for themselfs Odummy is one of them, the good gun owners will take in the shorts.

  • Al Beaulieu December 17, 2012, 7:01 am

    We handicap the honest people by subjecting them to minority passed laws so they cannot protect themselves or other people that are endangered by deranged people. My heart goes out to the parents who lost children and the teachers whose life was cut short.

  • 7sniper3 December 17, 2012, 7:01 am

    not sure what your problem is Louis, but being a “Nam” vet, I’m just worried with what the general populace is goining to think of us. Even if we are their best defence.

  • Leo R Edilloran December 17, 2012, 7:03 am

    right to own gun to protect family and keep it safeguard

  • THOMAS A. BAKER December 17, 2012, 7:04 am

    We need to have teachers to have concealed carry that would of saved,a lot of people in all these shootings.

  • Segismundo Gutierrez December 17, 2012, 7:13 am

    Sad day in humanity history. Education and family values is the best prevention. Guns, fists, knives, rocks, even words, they all can kill. Let’s educate and we all will be safe.
    San Juan, PR

  • sneezy 67 December 17, 2012, 7:14 am

    How many children were killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Gaza because of guns?
    Those statistics don’t seem to make headlines do they?
    Global(ist) Arms dealers (including the U.S.) seem to have their finger(s) on this button.
    And now, there is another group of people with an agenda to disarm America and
    By God they will do it with the sacrifice of children, utilizing mind control technique,
    psycho medications and whatever possible high tech military applications with
    maybe a little bit of pedophilia thrown in.
    Keep yourself attached to your weapons even if it takes gorilla glue.

  • Terry Norris December 17, 2012, 7:22 am

    It was not law abiding citizens that did this!

  • cawpin December 17, 2012, 7:24 am

    Are you kidding me? Violent video games? Blaming a game is just as irresponsible, and ludicrous, as blaming guns. I’m severely disappointed that you would stoop to that level.

    • erik December 17, 2012, 5:10 pm

      I agree. I’ve played violent video games my while life. But I realize is just a game. I’m not desensitized the slightest bit to real killing. Some people know thedifference between killing on a video game and killing in real life. If you don’t know the difference then you probably weren’t right to begin with

  • William Spurlin December 17, 2012, 7:26 am

    I feel so Sorry for the families that lost there children in all the school shootings, But the bottom line is this. More Gun Laws only make it easier for those people who want to cause Harm to others easier. Its been proven in other places that Strong Gun Laws just make it easier for the Mentailly Distrubed and Thugs to do what they want. And Stronger Gun Laws only makes it Harder for Law Abiding People Like Myself to Defend Myself and My Family. It was said on local news about a year ago, That there was not enough Police to protect everyone. So what does that mean, It means that some of us will have to protect our selves. Think about it, how many times does the police show up in time to stop someone from harming you and or your family ???

  • RG December 17, 2012, 7:30 am

    Mass shooters pick areas where there is no opposition; schools for instance, because guns are banned there. You don’t hear of mass shootings at gun shows, but there are thousands of guns, tons of ammunition, and people. Mexico’s strict gun laws don’t stop widespread violence there, and their government isn’t stopping the cartels involved. We allow pilots to be armed to protect passengers, but don’t afford the same for teachers to protect students? If the media would not showcase the shooters name continuously, it would not allow them the chance to “live in infamy”. England and China report on “knife violence” now, while in Sweden, militia members are allowed to keep their military rifles AFTER they are discharged. They enjoy a low crime rate.

  • Kirk December 17, 2012, 7:32 am

    CIVIL WAR IS COMING

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and
    said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as
    long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every
    nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S.
    State Department, overturns the position of former President George W.
    Bush’s administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
    national controls were better. On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major
    Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States.

    The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban
    on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international
    treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun
    control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to
    bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government
    signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to
    those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have
    been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations
    and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are
    designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all
    firearms. It will never happen! The Obama administration is attempting to
    use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to
    our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.
    Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend
    to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun
    control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary
    Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun
    control laws.

    Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there
    will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress.
    We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed
    a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling
    to the public.

    We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty
    that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake
    up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that
    requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local
    government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is
    not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be
    forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary,
    so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be
    concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight
    into socialism if Obama has his way… We are being led like a lamb to the
    slaughter

    LEAVE OUR GUN RIGHTS ALONE, INCLUDING OUR HIGH CAP MAGS.

  • Chris Miguez December 17, 2012, 7:36 am

    Hurting Law abiding citizens is not the answer. Gun
    Control is not the answer. Criminals will always have guns,
    so we as law abiding citizens have the right under the
    fiunding principals of this nation the right to keep and
    bare arms for our protection, and for sporting. If this
    governent wants to do something then arm the faculty and
    staff of our schools. Have them go through training and
    get their CHL’s so there is defense in our schools. You will
    not stop evil. If one single person can show me a weapon
    that jump up from a table aim itself and pull its own
    trigger then I will turn in my guns. Guns don’t kill
    people, people kill people. Look at all of the other
    tragedies where lives were taken, and not one gun
    was used.

  • William Spurlin December 17, 2012, 7:38 am

    Im not sure if there is going to be a way to stop these school shootings. Unless we make them like a prison, Which means anyone going into the school will be scanned and all bags would be serached at the door. Just like they do in a prison on vistors day. Other than that. We will always have people with mental problems thinking up ways to harm our Loved ones..

  • frank December 17, 2012, 7:39 am

    This is a tradedy that will keep happing in our society today. There is just too much freedom of the media to sensationalize this type of conduct. THIS MUST STOP ! The people who are law abiding with firarms are generally speaking NOT the ones doing these massacres. What we spend in this country on schools and education could have been totally avoided with the use of metal detetors at school entrances and police presence in every school and college. We have them in every airport…you are picked out if you have a pin on you. My point is this, criminals and you know it Mr. President are going to commit crimes and ob tain weapons regardless. Why in God’s name would you prevent a person to protect themselves and families with nothing more then a rolling pin or a shovel for thjat matter. There is an old saying which I’m sure you’ve heard ..”You don’t bring a knife to a gunfight” which is basically proposing. Assult rifles I totally agree. NO PLACE in sociey for law abiding citizens to posess. Tthey are militatry weapons needed to protect us overseas ,however its too late to stop the amount that are already here in this and other countries around the world and only a miracle can get them out of the hands of criminals hell bent on geting them anywy. Please don’t restrict all the sportsman and target shooters from the use of firearms to which has been an American pastime since the start of our country! Stop and have teachers and listen to the society tell you who needs some sort of medical evaluation for what could escalate wih all the violence that exists today in movies,books and videos. Its always after the tradgey that someone speaks up and says ….oh yeah he was aloner and relly never socialized much with anyone. These are the people who break!! Thank you

  • Glenn Ulman December 17, 2012, 7:46 am

    My condolences go out to the families of the victims. We the public can woulda,coulda,shoulda this one to death. I don’t think a law abiding citizens gun rights should come into question though.

  • Tommy Hendrick December 17, 2012, 7:47 am

    My guns, are locked up in safes. They are a threat to no one!!!

  • Brent December 17, 2012, 7:49 am

    Greetings all , seeing this terrible event take place saddens my heart . My first question is why a mentally disturbed person has access to a weapon unsecured ? 2nd I woul rather have a much higher powered rifel with fewer rounds than a rifel that spewes a mass of small rounds . Being a ex navy sniper a good rifel with a steady hadn will do more damage than a scared person spewing a mass of rounds . 3rd were not at war ! I don’t own a assult weapon nor would I buy one , if we’re at war and require a high capacity arm then you take out one asshole with one shot and take his assult weapon . Now you have a assult weapon . High capacity assult weapons belong in the hands of the military no a every day home . Please people think long and hard about this because as much as we want our rights concerning firearms it’s past time to end mass killings . Most people I know that have high capacity assult weapons are scared and many very unstable scared people . A master marksman does not need a mass killing weapon . And don’t blame the president for this event blame those who are not marksmen but scared people which makes a dangerous armed person . 12 rounds seems to me to be plenty of fire power for home defence or if one thinks he or she needs more then a very special licens must apply along with extended required classes . Wake up America this has gone to dam far with mass killing assult weapons . I applaud those true marksmen and women who can use a single well amed shot over 30 rounds of uncontrolled rounds .

  • David Ivarson December 17, 2012, 7:53 am

    I beleive that there is no reason for allowing assault weapons that have more than 15 rounds in the clip to on the market . But there are some who will get them regardless of the we do to prevent them. I agree the tradgey in
    Connecutic could not have been prevented. As Adam would have found guns somewhere for this deed. Its a
    shame that he stole them from his mother which should been under lock and key or in a gun safe. Don’t punish
    law abiding citizen by destroying the rights of lawfull gun owners of the this country and that is what you will do
    if you keep up with this farce.

  • joe bouvrette December 17, 2012, 7:54 am

    its not the gun,or the car when sick people use them for the wrong reason.the whole underlying problem is the country is moraly sick.kids cartoons are violent,tv is morally bad/violence is all these kids see from a very small age/all electronic games violent.they took the 10 commandments off the steps,this is a basic outline for life.no prayers in school,what do you expect.when the hightest court in the land has to define marriage,how bad is that.mental illness is not taken serious,these people show all kinds of signs that they need help/nothings done until they act out needless viloence.take away the right to bare arms,and the sick people will find a way to harm others.BRING THE COUNTRY BACK TO GOD FEARING PEOPLE,WITH MORALS.WE DO NOT NEED YOUNG BOYS LOOKING AT VIOLENCE/VICTORIA SECRET ON TV AND MANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED YEARS BACK.MOTHERS STAY HOME RAISE YOUR CHILDREN STRANGERS CANNOT.

  • William Pillar December 17, 2012, 7:55 am

    I wonder if these young people have been on legal drugs for the various conditions. When I was a kid and you displayed behavior problems you got your butt beat at school and later at home. Now they try to do the same with a battery of drugs, loosing respect and god knows what else. I listen to adds for drugs for depression and most mention suicidal tendencies as a side effect. When I was a teen we had guns to hunt with, but never dreamed of using them on a person. WRP

  • Fred K December 17, 2012, 7:56 am

    Dear Senator Feinstein,

    Why couldn’t you wait until the innocent children and staff of the tragedy on Dec 14th are laid to rest before your assault on the 60 million gun owners who didn’t shoot anyone that day.

    The real problem is our society. To paraphrase Gov Huckabee, “,,,where you have taken morality out of society, you will have immoraltiy,,,”.

    Fred

  • Jim Riddle December 17, 2012, 7:58 am

    Greenback TN

  • Tim Sandford December 17, 2012, 8:00 am

    The Supreme Court has already ruled that the 2nd Amendment and Gun Ownership are Constitutional! If only one person in that school was trained and armed to carry a weapon and was not restricted by Connecticut law, many of those innocent lives would have been saved! I Blame the State of Connecticut for restricting the Citizens of Conneticut’s rights to carry firearms on School Property and the boy’s mother for not having the firearms in her home secured!

  • jhn whetsell December 17, 2012, 8:01 am

    I am happy to sign the petition. I have guns for personal protection. This country has an element that has no respect for individuals who work hard to get ahead, and they only survive by stealing what they want.

  • Mike Lowry December 17, 2012, 8:05 am

    When will those people blaming the weapons learn? I’ts not the weapon but the person behind it. I guess they will ban automobiles next, then baseball bats, then knives. The criminals will be so happy then.

  • Gary Dell December 17, 2012, 8:06 am

    Very sad about the Innocent lives lose due to a disturb boy. My heart goes out to parents,mothers, fathers, grand parents etc……. its not the guns that kill people, its the person holding the gun, and if they take away honest peoples guns, then only the bad people will have guns.

  • Alan December 17, 2012, 8:07 am

    I believe the 2nd amendment should not be changed or amended in any way. I say “NO” to any new gun laws. Criminals will always have guns! My rights to protect my family and property “SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN FROM ME”.

  • Eric December 17, 2012, 8:10 am

    I’m really upset by these shootings that are happening. I have a ten year old boy in school, a young baby who will go into kindergarten in three years. There is no love like that of a parent for thier children. I am a military veteran and lifetime plinker who got his first gun at age 10. If I could have my way, after having to bear witness to my brothers in arms falling for thier country, I would prefer that there were no guns, but it’s not a realistic option. More so now, than ever before, since the times of our country’s revolution, we are at risk of attack from foreign entities, and our right to bear arms is much more practical than it had been in the past.
    I think, however, that we need a lot more education in regards to morals and taking true responsibility for our actions. Another poster listed that Hollywood and videogames offer too much violence, this may be true. But I’m no expert on that.
    Yes, I would prefer that my school and every school had a few police officers or a trained security direct-action teams employed to protect our children. Maybe jobs for our military?
    But please don’t take our guns away.

  • Lee B Schnitzer December 17, 2012, 8:12 am

    Adam Lanzas mother had the responsibility to keep her guns under lock and key as is all responsible gun owners. If someone operates a car while drinking are we going to ban all people from driving. The problem lies with with the violent society we have come to,in movies,in T.V.,computer games and drugs. The computerage is wonderful but it come with drawbacks-we have relationships and communication via computers which may make the world smaller but its impersonality and sacrifice of the personal touch between people leaves a dark psysic on the minds of our youth and with the rest of us. We do we go from here?

  • Doug December 17, 2012, 8:13 am

    You say guns aren’t to blame because plastic and steel don’t have a will, then you blame video games?! The F***?! How about this? How about we blame the person that did the shooting and stop blaming everything else.

  • donald schnupper December 17, 2012, 8:14 am

    Sorry for the families.

  • Big J December 17, 2012, 8:14 am

    I wonder if the street gangs across this great nation will have to surrender there firearms, as soon as they are recieved, when they were smuggled in, along with all the dope, that is smuggled in, on a daily basis. Can you imagine a country of law abiding citizens ( Unarmed ), with the only people being armed, are street gangs and the American Gostapo. I’ am truely sorry for the tragedy that took place in Newtown, Connecticut, but new laws on the books, will only affect the people who obey them. Like the saying goes. ” If Guns Kill People, Then Pencils Must Mis-Spell Words.

  • C Walters December 17, 2012, 8:18 am

    I have to Blame the gun owner/mother for the death of the victims of this shooting
    Realizing long ago that her child had serious mental problems ( she instructed baby sitters to not leave him alone for “even 1 minute “) She took him to a fireing range and showed him how to use a gun ???
    And then
    Did not even show the inteligence to SECURE her weapon from her unstable child
    WITH A $3 GUN BREECH BLOCKING CABLE LOCK ???
    The gun owner is responsible for the damage and crimes the gun causes and HAS to provide the security of any deadly weapon !!
    The only gun control legislation that would help many of the “gun crisis tragedies” would be the Mandatory locking and securing af guns by the owner
    The owner IS the ULTIMATE GUN CONTROL

  • jim December 17, 2012, 8:19 am

    How dare that the president would use a memorial service for such a tragic event to make a political statment for his agenda, politics had no business in his words to families of the children and staff of that school. I am amazed that he would tell the country that gun control can stop tragedies like this,and now all these senators saying that the fore fathers did not have assualt rifes in mind when they drew up the constitution but that is exactly what they had in mind to have the people armed the same as the goverment witch is exactly why we have the country we have today.I want to know when these people are going to do something about all the other reasons that so many of our children are being killed,more than the mass shootings are child molesters like Jerry Sandusky who more than 1 official knew about much before he was arrested and the ot

  • Dkamm @ Wloo December 17, 2012, 8:19 am

    I belive that if you sign a gov list that it may be used to take away your guns. This list should be used to get help for the mentaly – ILL , & stop the DRUGS , this ” list “can go on, on, on ~ ~ ~ : Your list is very well entended..

  • JAH December 17, 2012, 8:20 am

    ok, so let’s blame video games. good going, guys.

  • Craig Renner December 17, 2012, 8:22 am

    Mr. President

    This was a sad tragedy. Its not gun control we need. Other countries that have no gun control do not have these mass shootings. The problem lies in are justice system. If the people that are in prison for life or some have as many as three life sentences should be executed. This will save billions of dollars each year. We also need to stiffen penalties on all people who commit crimes against people. With the money saved from executing life the governments could hire armed gaurds for all schools.

  • jeff December 17, 2012, 8:23 am

    I am a gun owner. I support gun controls. But our society needs to change. Too many paranoid nut-case douch-bags hiding behind the second amendment. You guys are fucked up.

    Arm the teachers? Right then it becomes who’s the better shot.

    • J.Jones December 17, 2012, 8:51 am

      I’d rather see a shoot off contest between the teacher and a nutjob instead of letting him have all the time he needs to shoot kids like fish in a barrell.

    • Big J December 17, 2012, 1:26 pm

      Jeff, No offence, but if the teachers were armed, at least they would have had a fair chance. These people didnt have a chance.Think about it……we need to inform our children about Drugs, Pedophiles, and whack jobs like Lanza and all other Evils in this world. Would making laws to disarm Law abiding citizens, really help the situation at hand???? I dont think so either.

  • joey gray December 17, 2012, 8:24 am

    these violent games children play are the big cause of their actions, we need more game control not gun control for law abiding citizens.

  • richard wallace December 17, 2012, 8:26 am

    77 years ago when i was brought home from the hospital there were guns in the house. my dad’s remington octagon barrel pump action 22 was to heavy for me to hold when my father took me shooting to teach me about guns and safe shooting. he fixed a support that i could rest the rifle in so i could shoot and see how accuracte this fine rifle was and i still have it. i have owned many guns over the years and bought my first revolver when i was in the army. my sons grew up around guns all their lives and knew what the outcome would be if they ever touched one when i wasn’t there. i never worried as i knew they respected what i had and would not go against my wishes. i took our oldest son shooting at a very young age and he knows and respects and owns firearms. our youngest is handicapped and doesn’t own or shoot any firearms.

  • Bill December 17, 2012, 8:30 am

    I think it’s time for a real, legitimate focus on how our society can do a better job of identifying and taking action to help those who have serious mental illness. I haven’t watched much of the TV coverage on this because it’s too disturbing to hear what’s happened played over and over, but I have no doubt that they’re reporting, as is always the case in these situations, that there were many signs that this person had extreme mental issues of which many people were aware…family members, co-workers, friends/family friends, etc….yet no one took action to address them and/or get this person into a treatment center to address his issues. Addressing the mental illness issue is much more difficult than simply passing gun laws, but it needs to happen if tragedies like this are to be avoided.

  • Jimmy King December 17, 2012, 8:37 am

    NO MORE GUN LAWS ITS ALL BS…….

  • Bernard December 17, 2012, 8:40 am

    Every teacher should be required to have firearms training and to use one to protect the children in their care if neccesary. In Israel this is common practice born out of neccesity and very few children if any are gunned down at school like here. It seems our time has come for this approach because disarming law abiding citizens will do nothing to protect our children from the crazies, but a loaded gun with a trained person behind it will. Sad that it has come to this but teachers, pilots etc. charged with protecting us in society should have the means and responsibility to do it effectively for all our sakes. The police cannot be everywhere and it’s time the citizens took responsibility for our own protection.

  • John B. Armando December 17, 2012, 8:41 am

    I believe by owning a firearm is a means for law abiding citizens to protect them selves against some disturbed person with a gun or a home invasion.

  • rebel revolt December 17, 2012, 8:41 am

    why would anyone want to believe that fake teard speach that obama mr. monkey dung gave to the american people and the parents of the 20 dead childeren / he said at the end of his speach may god bless all of you he does not believe in our god / he has done his level best to take our god out of our everyday life and worst of all out of our schools / obama is a radical crooked muslim trying to tear this country down and make it a scumbag muslim filthy country / look at the muslim countries the people all sit around on the streets all day like a bunch of micack monkeys waiting to be told what to do by someone like mr. monkey dung obama / guns do not kill people people kill people / if any of the american people believe anything that obama tells them they are worse off in the head then adam lanza you need your heads examined and quick / obama is again trying to buy votes for his illegal 3rd term in office that he is working on while all of us sleep at night do not think for one minute that he is not going for a third term / obama is the end result and squirt from a lude sex act committed tall in the trees in africa by a large limb rat / he is a muslim and hates the american people young or old / if he disarms this country he will take us over without fireing a shot just like he wants / he is a modern day hitler and george sorros is the radical crook behind him pulling his strings / sorros is obamas puppett master and has been since the beginning / obama is not for the american people / let him get your guns people and all of you will die in hell with no chance to fight back / do you think for one minute that the muslim scumbag people in the united states care about what happened to those 20 innocent childeren that died at that school truth is they are probly real upset that an american killed those childeren and not a muslim / people better wake up / obama is a fake piece of monkey dung / obama just told the american people that god called all of those innocent childeren home he does not believe in god another one of his lies to gain votes for his third crooked term / everyone better sleep with one eye open as long as mr. monkey dung calls himself our president / he is not my damn president i did not vote for the idiot / i pray everynight that i wake up in the morning and that obama has died overnight of a massive heart attack before he takes this country plumb to hell like he is doing right now / you let him take god out of your everyday lifes and our country / god is going to send us all to hell before breakfast he is pissed

    • glenn December 18, 2012, 2:11 pm

      could not of said it better. i dont like consperacies but is it not possable to find sombody thats got mental problems hold his mother hostage and tell him you will hurt her if you do not do something sick just like this

  • Kelly December 17, 2012, 8:44 am

    I agree with Jason. Put a .02 tax per centerfire round into a school only security fund. Bullet resistant doors windows, armed security officers, maglock doors & cameras are all alternatives to “My rights diatribes” be a responsible gun owner and make sure if me kick in this money it gets to the right place…Not for tank, a congressional pay raise or aid to Pakistan. American school safety and security. PS…put in a panic box gunsafe so trained adult teachers and staff could get access in an emergency. Lets even the odds a little.

  • J.Jones December 17, 2012, 8:46 am

    Sorry….I won’t sign this petition…..you have to register with the government to sign…..isn’t that the same as adding your name and IP (internet) address to a surveilliance list, or telling them here I am come get me and my guns and ammo first??

    • Ken H December 17, 2012, 8:22 pm

      J.Jones – if you think that being on this site hasn’t got you noticed, think again.
      Your guns should be registered, in a safe or locked up. Law enforcement should already know who you are.

      It concerns me you may not be one of the folks that should sign the petition anyway.

  • William Bailey December 17, 2012, 8:47 am

    There is no God, that’s why we need guns.

  • James Marsh December 17, 2012, 8:49 am

    I am a gun owner and have used and been trained how to handle them properly. I have been around them since I was about 5, when my father started taking me hunting. I own several guns, not one an assault rifle type. I just don’t care for them. I do however support the right of an individual to own one if they so desire. No one can stop a crazy from stealing a gun, nor will he honor a “No Firearms” warning in a public school or anyplace else. I cringe at the thought of having gaurds and metal detectors at our school doors as we have at our court houses and other government facilities. I support the right to carry concealed and the availibility of weapons to law abiding citizens. I for one do not intend to be a victum. The many recent mass shootings explain exactly why I carry. BUT, we as the responcible gun owners must figure out a way to convince our society and government that just penalizing the law abiding just empowers the law breakers. The gun control advocates are way ahead of us in the persuasion department. We need to forge and propose common sence ways and support representation that works in a common sence way, not just screaming and posturing.

    Jim Marsh

  • John December 17, 2012, 8:54 am

    Everyone should go out and buy as many stripped AR lowers and 30-round magazines as you can, they will be gone soon.

  • Chuck December 17, 2012, 8:55 am

    Perhaps some CCW holders would be happy to volunteer their time to to patrol school halls, after stringent background checks and extensive training by law enforcement of course.

  • Michael Benninger December 17, 2012, 8:56 am

    I am saddened to see children lives cut short. We need more safes and more people getting concelled weapons permit. This would deter this free for all.
    I am a retired Marine and love life but this kid had access to those weapons and was known to have problem.

    WHERE IS THE SAFE?

  • Larry December 17, 2012, 9:01 am

    I agree with the assault weapons ban. But I also agree with 2nd admenment of the right to bear arms. I don’t think our forefathers were thinking of assault weapons when this was written. Most of these people who bitch about keeping their assault guns are the same ones who wanna play G.I. Joe. They never served a day in the service and have no idea what kind of sound a bullet makes when it hits flesh and not zombie targets. I feel at this time we have more to fear from extreme newscasters who’s only purpose is to sensationalize the news no matter what the cost.

    • Iceberg0311 December 17, 2012, 11:54 am

      I think you need to reevaluate the reasons the 2ND Amendment was written. It was to prevent the government from becoming tyrannical, i.e. to arm the people as well as, if not better than, the military itself. How is that possible in the modern era without access to assault rifles? It’s common sense: of course the founding fathers would intend weapons of such quality too be available to the people.

  • TexasVet December 17, 2012, 9:02 am

    I will NOT sign your petition because you are trying to take the blame from guns “an inert piece of plastic and steel” and place the blame on another inert piece of plastic. Let me ask this. What did you watch as a kid? I liked shows like the Lone Ranger, Gun Some, True Grit and movies like Platoon and the Big Red One. I also liked the Road Runner and Bugs Bunny. In every one of these shows, there was always gun violence. I even spent 9 yrs in the Army. As a 12B (combat engineer) my specialty is to blow things up. I can make things and also disarm things. I was an expert marksman for all 9 years. Yet with all of the violence around me, I am no more violent than before. I also play video games. So does my teenage son. He watches action movies (we just saw The Bourne Legacy last night), yet he is not an aggressive person. He is a JR councilor for the behavioral class at his school. He loves to help people.

    You cannot blame the actions of a few on anything other than mental dysfunctions. These people are not wired right, and the person that is responsible for these killings is dead. That person is the MOTHER of the shooter, NOT VIDEO GAMES or movies. She had a mentally ill son and was stupid enough to have guns in the same house! She even took him to the range and showed him how to use them! How STUPID can you be?

    How about looking at the school? How did he get in? How did he get to a class room, let alone two class rooms?

    Now I agree that there really is nothing anyone could have done to stop him. If someone wants you dead, they’ll do it. But you can’t blame the action on anything other than the people that did it, and the people that let it happen.

    So no, I’m not signing. I’d rather let them ban weapons and die trying to keep mine then to have you switch the blame to something else that doesn’t even have anything to do with it.

    Thank you,

    Proud video gamer, action movie watcher, gun owner.

    Bryan

  • Donald Swens December 17, 2012, 9:07 am

    That person should not have been able to access any gun ,Sad.

  • Kevin Davis December 17, 2012, 9:13 am

    Being the school is a gun free zone any shooter knows this when they enter school property. If a law abiding gun carrying person would have been close by maybe he could have stopped this tragedy. I would have put my life on the line to protect these innocent people and not even thought twice.

  • Arthur Thorne December 17, 2012, 9:14 am

    We don’t take cars from everyone, when a drunk driver kills innocent people.

  • Casey Vander Jagt December 17, 2012, 9:15 am

    Salect responsibile school staff to have the right to bear arms to protect the innocent. If the teachers who gave their lives were armed he would have been shot when he came in the window and there would be one dead not 20+.

  • Larry Svetlik December 17, 2012, 9:16 am

    If I were a teacher I would like the option of having a firearm to defend myself and my students. Put yourself in the teacher’s shoes, if you can imagine the scenario. You would at least have a chance to make a difference for the better.

  • Michael Benninger December 17, 2012, 9:20 am

    I am with those parents who lost their children. Can you imagine how our military men and women deal with war.
    Kids getting killed in countries over seas. Those countries have guns and the ones that do not have guns make them.
    O, B, S, V all kill people everyday in war and it is called war. So it is ok, NO it is not ok it is just not in our back yard.

    Guns do not kill people, people kill people.

    Home schooled where is the inter reaction of social interreaction? I love kids. What was that pricipal thinking she could stop a bullet with words, maybe her looks, maybe her authority WTF was she thinking we will never know. Nor will we ever know what he was thinking.
    Why not get her to the range? Why not get her to a military base? Why not get her to shoot a gun so she can see the results of what bullet will do in the hands of a criminal?
    O you want to do something positive educate the educators that today is a different social event. I would rather have a teacher who shows a little skin, that can also shoot a little monster then one who thinks she can control it with words. Think about how we rush to judgement on a ICON in football but we do not know the facts.

    We do not need to rush to judgement we need to educate the educators. A bullet is forever think about it stop the insanity of who and who can not carry a weapon and get more people educated.
    I would be the 1st person to say it is a sad situation. I would also be the first to shoot TLB.

  • Michael Rowland December 17, 2012, 9:20 am

    I grieve for the lost loved ones in Connecticut. The media seems set on pushing gun control buttons. They should focus on the real problem. Taking the Bible from schools has produced decades of some troubled young & older adults. Without the Bible to guide them some can’t cope with life and grow up lost, not knowing the love of God or Family. We have children who Murder their Parents and Classmates. Many Video Games kids play are about Killing and Death. Some seem de-sensitized to death. Killing seems like a Video Game in their Mind. It’s like the Devil won them over. It’s time to put the Bible back in Schools. Those who object can Home School. We are a Christian Nation. We’ve just been Run Over by Non Christians. We don’t need Gun Control, We Need the Bible to teach our Children Right and Wrong & Love. Statistics show more children die from bicycle, swimming, & car accidents than gun shootings. Jack The Ripper didn’t use a gun, neither did Jeffery Dahmer and a Straight Razor can be fatal when applied to ones throat. Adults over 50 remember when the Bible was taken from schools. Tragic events have taken place since. Let’s send a message to Washington that we Christian Americans demand the Bible be put back in our Schools. Guns are not the Real Problem, Lack of God in our Schools and the Devil working on young minds are the Real Problems.

  • Tim McRae December 17, 2012, 9:21 am

    Sign this petition and do it today! http://wh.gov/RLsR
    The anti-gunners already have twice as many signatures on their petition. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like some of the wording, sign it anyway! We need a resounding show of support. This petition needs to reach a count of 25000 signers TODAY!

  • William Humphreys December 17, 2012, 9:23 am

    tell diana f out in calf. guns did not kill those kids it was the goof on the other end

  • ron December 17, 2012, 9:24 am

    here is another thing to think about ? the state has ’11′ letters, the city has ’7′ letters, 7-11 are numbers of sacrifice by the eliminator of the occult, he satan requires innocent blood as did bail worship in old Testament times, take God out of our schools satan moves right in, there is no such thing as a void in the class room. “The fool has said there is no God”. Teach children to become fools, satan loves to clean up the mess, and when those children get older they will turn the thing around on you when you are old. He killed his mother first, then went after the children. If he was trying to hurt his mother it would have been the children first then his mother so that she would suffer, her being dead knows nothing about the aftermath.

  • Rich December 17, 2012, 9:24 am

    What if this guy walked in with a knife would we need to have new knife laws or if he drove his car through the building would we need to revamp our driving license regulations. The fact is that there are far to many mentally. Unstable people in this world and no matter what laws or government intrusion cant stop that my heart is broken for those mother’s and father’s. That lost thier children the husband’s. And wives. And everyone else effected. As a father myself all i can call do is teach that life has meaning. And to respect others. I have no idea how to change the world but a jnee jerk reaction is not the rite thing to do.

  • Bernie December 17, 2012, 9:32 am

    Connecticut has some of the strongest gun laws in the country. It is not the lawabider owners but the criminals that will always get around laws. As far as mentally ill people there must be more cautous family members that own firearms to make sure they are not accesable. I have many firearms that are locked in safes and all ammo locked also. New laws will not be the answer.

  • Will December 17, 2012, 9:35 am

    Bryan,
    I have to agree 100%. Blame the mother, for teaching a mentally unstable kid to shoot, and not having her guns locked up in the first place. Blame the kid for wanting to be a coward and to hurt defenseless, innocent little children. Look at Illinois, the POTUS’ home state!!! They just lifted the gun ban law in their state because of how bad violent crimes were there. The WORST in the country!!
    I also like the idea of us putting our money where our mouth is. Local ammo/gun tax to hire add’l police officers to protect our lower grade schools, not just our high schools.

  • Mike Piantanida III December 17, 2012, 9:37 am

    If guns are the problem why do police always bring more guns to solve the problem? If guns are the cause of evil why are no gun shows ever held up? A person with a gun is a citizen one without a gun is a subject, (you choose). The answer to ALL gun violence is to have MORE guns in the hands of responsible people then the guns in the hands of phyco’s and criminals. Guns in schools by trained adults will cut down on the death count. Citizens with the right to carry and active support from law enforcement will cut down of street violence and home invasion.
    The only reason we aren’t speaking Japanese in this country is because emperor Yamamoto recognized that private ownership of guns in America made us the largest armed force on the planet. No one can invade the USA and stand a chance.

  • ralph mccrery December 17, 2012, 9:40 am

    This kid was very sick, the system failed him as he clearly should have been in a treatment facility and not walking the streets of America. He was a clear example of evil and how it is around us every day. I’ve never seen a gun hurt anyone but I’ve seen a lot of bad stopped by the judicious use of a firearm.

  • Leonard December 17, 2012, 9:43 am

    How about this– I propose a “shall issue” FEDERAL concealed carry permit for the following– all active duty, reserve and national guard members, all prior military police personnel, and all retired police personnel. This will provide a highly trained pool of carrying citizens. These people are trained in weapons, tactics, and use of force. They should be authorized to carry anywhere, any time. This should also satisfy members of congress that want more protection for the citizens as well as us who want more people carrying. It is not the total solution but a first step. If you agree, please write your congressman today…

  • Tom K December 17, 2012, 9:48 am

    Lets get real people out in the streets to collect real signatures. Bet we could collect millions in support of the 2nd Amendment.. Lets send those to Washington, and out petition the anti gun people 10-1…

  • JD December 17, 2012, 9:51 am

    They always go after the gun owners. If it wasn’t a gun it was a pipe bomb who would they go after then, the pipe maker, tape co, the nut and bolt maker.

  • Deborah H. Benton December 17, 2012, 9:52 am

    Obama is too Anti-gun. He’s not going to help us. Him being Anti-gun was the number 1 reason I didn’t vote for him.

  • Billy Neagle December 17, 2012, 9:55 am

    Dear Mr.President, All of us Law abiding citizens would like to ask you to look into the facts concerning this horrific crime. A crime commited by an individual who was a walking,living, breathing, Monster. I think the real question and concern here should be how can we identify an individual who has gone off the deep end of reality and has no sense of concern for human life! There are plenty of people in our sociaty who turns into these monsters and commits these horrible crimes. What can we do to identity them? When will their demons tell them to do these terrible acts? We all know that Guns don’t kill people, People kill People. As the old saying goes, if we outlaw guns, only outlaws will own guns. We hope and pray that you will make the correct decision concerning our long standing Gun Laws.
    Thanks, Billy

  • kenneth December 17, 2012, 10:00 am

    I know most of you will not agree with me but here it is anyway….New laws against guns and mag. capacity or anything else similar will not stop a moron who is hell bent on killing masses of people….Law abiding gun owners will be the casualties of this war…..a ball bat in the hand of a twenty year old man wielding at his peak strength years could have killed the same twenty children….Taking away the tool of their trade will not be the solution for this problem….THERE IS NO ONE OR TWO SOLUTIONS FOR THIS NEW NORM TYPE OF CRIME….We now have a new society or culture in the USA that will have to be changed starting at each persons home before this can be turned around….People as a majority must participate for this to take place….Live for GOD,,mothers stay home and raise your children and quit letting them raise themselves or the schools raise them for you,,take the nasty filth off the televisions,,Fathers start being men,,moms and dads quit getting divorces at the drop of a hat,,NEED I GO ON!!….NO because 80% of you already despise what I have said so far….We did not get where we are today over nite….It will take years to turn back what we have done and become….It will never happen at all unless the majority of people participate….Casualties of this war is what law abiding gun owners will be….There will be no stopping the movement that is about to take place against gun owners in the months ahead….I love my country and I value my freedom….I believe it is my heritage and a privilege to own a gun….But face it….The America we all remember is over now it will never be the same again….Read your bible….Pray…..Watch for the signs….Even so Amen….

  • m. padilla December 17, 2012, 10:02 am

    they are going to use this bad incident as an excuse to ban our rights to bear arms.OB HAS ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST PEOPLE OWNING ARMS.WHEN INCIDENTS LIKE THIS HAPPEN,SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS IN WASHINGTON THINK THRU THEIR ASS INSTEAD OF THEIR BRAINS AND PASS MORE GUN LAWS. THEY SHOULD ENFORCE THE ONES ON THE BOOKS ALREADY. PEOPLE WAKE UP. A NEW WORLD-ORDER IS COMING AND OUR FREEDOMS ARE GOING TO VANNISH.

  • Keith December 17, 2012, 10:03 am

    More gun laws is not the answer needed to prevent these terrible incidents. Better help for the mentally handicapped and control of the violent computer games may help. Guns do not kill people. People kill people.
    People have been killing people since the begining of time. You will not be able to control every implement that
    can be used for killing.

  • James Williams December 17, 2012, 10:06 am

    guns did not kill those kids it was the madman on the other end

  • John Moore December 17, 2012, 10:06 am

    Leave my right to purchase and own guns alone lawmakers and law breakers.

  • Ken Birdsell December 17, 2012, 10:09 am

    Well normally I do not make written comments to such problems of the world that come across our paths daily. Don’t get me wrong those kids at that school deserve to have all the fury, and anger we can muster from the sadness we feel over their deaths. I to feel that sorrow and pain.

    However, you might look at this, and ask your self how many people were killed by any type of ” Gun” and any gun control law on September 11, 2001. NONE ! yet that event will forever remain in the minds and hearts of all Americans and all those who believe in freedom and protection from crazy people from wherever. To date I can find nothing about the banning of air planes, airports, plane manufactures, or companies who make there money selling plane tickets. There is no ban being called on high rise office buildings, ones that have more the 10 workers in any one building at any time. No that would be silly and dumb to even try.

    9/11 was caused by EVIL, and my friend there is plenty of evil in this world. The best way to stop these mad people and stop the useless killing is to find a way to remove evil. Until then we could be killed by a simple grass rake, in the hands of evil.

    Just my thought.

  • Ralph December 17, 2012, 10:12 am

    Who doesn’t wear jewelery during Ramadan?……………………………..BO
    Who doesn’t allow his dog on Air Force one?……………………………….BO
    Who frequently gives a crotch salute when Old Glory passes by?…..BO
    Who bows to Saudi Kings?…………………………………………………………BO
    Who wrote, “I’ll stand with Muslims if things get bad”?…………………….BO
    Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a Muslim
    No Muslim honors our constitution, BO will never do anything but degrade America and desecrate our way of life.

    • Romney Dickinson December 17, 2012, 10:24 am

      In the meantime and without obama, Americans need to put God, religion, and morals back in all parts of the nation. America also needs to root out these misfits, send them to examination and evaluation, and treat them with meds or confinement. And it should be a felony to not report a plan to attack or kill others.

  • Richard December 17, 2012, 10:15 am

    God help us all…Please! Of course the Left will use this opportunity, as they always do, to make us feel guilty because we own and keep and carry guns. I have seen posts where people are accusing NRA members of being accessories to murder! This is insane. Of course all they want to do is disarm us once and for all. We must never let that happen. If we do then America is no more. The second amendment is the key to all the rest. Without the weapons to keep government at bay… well, you can imagine what they would do. Anyway the pressure is on us EVIL gun owners to have an “intelligent, reasonable” discussion about gun control. Hey it’s the right thing to do…etc. Here’s how we can reply: Any such discussion had better begin with Roe V Wade. So you say you want to protect innocent life by taking away my guns? Then lets talk about the 55 MILLION innocent lives sacrificed at the altar of the Church of Liberalism since that horrid law went into effect in 1973. Nuff said.

  • Garr M December 17, 2012, 10:15 am

    This is a no win situation for law abiding gun owners. People are angry, rightfully so, by this senseless act. The shooter is dead, the gun owner is dead, so there is a need by the masses (especially the press) to assess blame. The only thing left to which blame can be assed is the gun! The inanimate object that has now become a symbol for the root of all evil in America. We, as law abiding gun owners, are now guilty by our association with guns! We can argue until we are all blue in the face about our violent society, video games, loss of faith and the list goes on, for a reason to make sense of what occurred. But those arguments will never stand up to the faces of dead children, the crocodile tears of Obama, the liberal media, and a general public sentiment that guns are bad, they can kill, and people who own them (legally) are all out there in the lunatic fringe.

    Obama, like him or not, is smart and sly. If the US signs the NATO treaty then the US will be at the mercy of what other countries dictate with regards to gun ownership and control, without congressional approval! So no worries, no fight in congress, just sign the document and in the dark of night are rights disappear. With public sentiment squarely behind gun ban advocates there is little anyone can do except wait and see how far the bans go. Will owners be grandfathered, or will they have to turn in their arms. Will pistols also be banned? The fallout from this one 30 minute act of violence is about to shape the American landscape, with respect to gun control (banishment), for generations to come. I am not advocating we as legal law abiding gun owners simply give up, yes we need to fight to maintain our rights, but I am not optimistic about our chances given the climate that currently exists. The press is against us, the general population is against us, parents are against us, and once supportive legislators will be hard pressed to support us, less they be labeled insensitive toward the deaths of children. I fear this uphill battle may just be too steep a slope to overcome. On December 14, 2012 America lost two of its most precious possessions, innocent young children, and our freedoms.

    • Timothy Corcoran December 17, 2012, 11:15 am

      The only reason that the government wants to take our guns away is to control the people. They are well aware that gus in the hands of law abiding citizens makes the country safer. They also know in order to control the masses and finish putting a dictatorship in place is to take away our guns. This school killing was planned and executed by our belevod govenrment, if you don’t believe that then you are very naive.

  • David Allen December 17, 2012, 10:17 am

    If gun owners are continually placed in the same category as these folks that have nothing better to do than watch TV and play games that can influence their minds, I’m not sure how signatures will stop the prez from what ever he wants to do. After all the majority placed him in office for another 4 years. Of which I am not a number.

  • Ken Whitaker December 17, 2012, 10:17 am

    This child neeeded help and many people knew it now it is too late. He did not buy those guns he stole them. I would have died trying to protect those children gun or no gun. What ever happened to those good old westerns and good entertainment insted of the crap on TV now?

  • Asshole Blogger December 17, 2012, 10:18 am

    Posted on my Facebook, tweeted and shared among my circles.

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  • Stan December 17, 2012, 10:18 am

    Drugs are illegal they are everywhere nuff said. making guns illegal would not stop this …..If you have a gun and i dont chances are good you will win the fight. If we both have them there is at least a 50/50 chance you lose.

  • robert tubear tubear wiley December 17, 2012, 10:19 am

    p[eople kill people not guns. knives , clubs, cars, airplanes, all these are deadly if used in an irresponsable way.

  • walt morris December 17, 2012, 10:20 am

    criminals fear armed victims–that is why all politicians fear armed law abiding citizens–this has been the case for thousands of years. too bad our president didn’t read something about history besides the “communist manifesto”.

  • Gary December 17, 2012, 10:22 am

    Everything a person sees on TV, the movies and video games affects them, the media is just as responsable and the killers themselves. If I’m wrong why do we have ratings such a rated R we don’t let minors watch porn do we of course not. In the last 25 years it has become kill, kill, kill it there everyday every hour, you can’t not turn on the TV and not see a body count. Your are what you eat and you become what you ingest.

  • Shane December 17, 2012, 10:23 am

    I think some of the people posting must be pretty young. They seem to believe that declaring “no compromise” will somehow stop the steamroller coming our way. Some of us felt the bitter taste of the 1990s “assault weapons ban,” but what may be coming down the road is nothing by comparison. We could see massive gun control legislation that will end the Second Amendment as we have known it. I don’t want to sound like Wayne LaPierre, but this time I think it’s true. This shooting has hit everyone hard. Personally I haven’t felt so depressed over the news since 911. People who don’t like guns will dislike them more. People who were indifferent are now anti-gun. Even pro-gun people are taking a second look. We’re confused, stunned, and in a vulnerable position.

    Is anyone interesting in starting a grassroots online forum for gun owners who are capable of civil discussion?

    Maybe we can set aside Democratic/Republican politics and differing views on religion, social problems, and so on, and discuss ideas that would increase public safety and protect the Second Amendment. There have already been good suggestions, but I think we need to pull together ideas and actually try to present them to lawmakers. Maybe that is naive, but I will feel terrible if the USA becomes like Australia and the UK while I just sat and watched.

  • Charles December 17, 2012, 10:26 am

    It doesn’t matter what weapon a person uses whether it be a gun or box knives that was used in 9/11or even a bomb such as in the Oklahoma City bombing.. This is a culture in America where there is little regard towards human life and how really precious it is.. To ban gun then you need to just put each and everyone in a padded cell because your just putting a band aid on the problem.. I don’t believe in cencorship by our government but I do believe in self cencorship where we get rid of all the blood and gore in movies and video games and music where violence is encouraged. There is a study where a child is exposed to more violence on television in a month than a combat soldier is exposed to in a tour.. I promise that if there isn’t something done about the underlying cause of this you will actually see folks get really creative with what is around them and I shiver just thinking what someones brain will come up with next.. Ricin from castro bean can be obtained rather easily because it is a weed growing wild to the exotic chemistry … Help us this way…

  • Dennis Henriques December 17, 2012, 10:30 am

    Before banning guns check out the drugs prescribed to the shooters. Then investigate if they were given
    proper blood tests before given prescriptions. Most of these drugs may cause suicidal and/or homicidal
    tendencies if administered to the wrong people.
    My daughter was prescribed one of them for “depression”. She reported horrible nightmares in which
    family members committed terrible acts. She would wake up hating her own family. Instead of killing us
    she just stopped taking the drug.
    Any real investigation will disclose what really needs to be banned.

  • Michael Parr December 17, 2012, 10:34 am

    A gun does not kill a child or a man or woman.
    It is people who kill.

    The Mother should have done something about her kid that was mentally unstable.
    But enough about what they say she did.

    That still doesn’t give you the right to Steal our right from us!
    That our Fore Father’s gave everything
    so we have the rights given to us under the Constitution!
    Keep that in mind while you are dealing with it all.

  • Shawn December 17, 2012, 10:34 am

    The inference that video games are a contributing factor shows how out of touch some elements of the pro-gun movement are. Attacking a First Amendment right in defense of a Second Amendment right is not going to help. Much like the statistics that show the ineffectiveness of gun control in curbing crime and violence, there are also statistics that show video games do not contribute to violent behavior. In addition, the firearms industry has been all too happy to hop on the ‘Zombie’ bandwagon by offering targets, ammunition and other accessories marketed to that gaming segment.

    As with any issue, reality lies somewhere in the middle. Assuming the percentage of individuals with mental health problems is a fixed percentage, we will see an increase in the number of individuals with mental health issues as our population increases. Partly because of the stigma associated with mental health issues, and a society that does not view them as ‘real’, we have few systems to diagnose and treat individuals. Our insurance systems largely do not cover these mental health related costs as they are not viewed as ‘health’ related. Thus, individuals with mental health problems are ignored and warning signs may go unnoticed or unheeded.

    We also have a challenge with understanding the properties of firearms. Most individuals, including some gun owners, seem to not know what an assault weapon is. A level of lethality or destruction is attributed to anything that looks similar to what these individuals see on television or movies that is not realistic. We will skip a detailed walkthrough of loading mechanics, bullet diameter, bullet shape, bullet construction, and velocity with the summary that using a different firearm would not have altered the results. As the spate of knife attacks in China against schools and children has unfortunately shown, someone with a weapon, any weapon, is at an advantage to the unarmed. Putting law enforcement or security at each school may help, but it would not be a guarantee. Another solution is to change the mindset that individuals do not need to do anything regarding their own personal safety. Teachers should have the ability to defend themselves and their classrooms if they choose. That can be with pepper spray, taser, or firearm if they have the appropriate training. This was the approach taken with airline pilots after 9/11. It is worth considering here as well. That being said, I have misgivings with that approach, as I want to believe our society can not be sick enough that one needs to worry about defending children in schools, or at a place of worship, or simply shopping at a mall but as too many recent events have shown, that is not always the case.

    The pro-gun movement has utterly failed in educating the general public and playing a leading role in recommending changes that could help. As we are supposedly the experts, recommendations and legislation should begin with us. Instead, we have extremism. We then see placebo laws advocated by the anti-gun movement that do nothing, but make the public feel better such as the Assault Weapon Ban. Ironically, the public (and many gun owners) is unaware that automatic weapons and machine guns can be legally owned in this country, and have never been used in a crime except by a police officer (that was the last I checked). So, the type of weapon does not matter, the problem is keeping weapons out of the wrong hands. How can we do that? Using mental health records as criteria for gun ownership may help, but is strongly opposed as an invasion of privacy. We will always have the problem of stolen firearms, but does that mean we should not take some steps to prevent people from acquiring guns? Are we as lawful firearm owners willing to be inconvenienced a bit if it makes it harder for potential criminals to acquire guns? I think most of us would go along with this within reason. If ‘instant’ checks can be cost effectively implemented, that may have potential. Another is requiring hunter safety like programs or firearm education programs for gun ownership. (I am sure we have all been at a gun store, shuddering at seeing someone who is clearly a novice buying a firearm.) The problem is the anti-gun lobby is just that, completely anti-gun. Any concession made by the pro gun lobby would be exploited in an effort to prevent all gun ownership, thus we get the extreme polarized views we have now. Also, do not delude yourself into thinking that gun ownership follows strict ‘red – blue’ lines, that is another problem the NRA has. By practicing a lobbying policy that is almost completely partisan in nature, we have lost influence with Democratic lawmakers that would otherwise be open to gun ownership rights.

    I will not sign this petition, we need to present ourselves better then this.

  • daniel drew December 17, 2012, 10:42 am

    It is to my knowledge that guns don’t kill. Don’t blame the guns put blame on the person behind that firearm. I am truely sorry for the tragedy that has happend on dec 14. But for the law obidding citizens that do carry firearms sh
    ouldn’t have to pay the price for the idiots that pulls the trigger on another human being GUNS DON’T KILL, PEOPLE KILL

  • Richard B December 17, 2012, 10:43 am

    Our Second Amendment Rights (The Right To Bear Arms) which is what the Government and President Obama are trying to abolish . I am a 57 year old male , a Law abiding US citizen . I have a legal permit for my guns and my purpose for those guns are to protect me and my family and my home and property . These Rights should not be taken away from a Law abiding US citizen . The problem with guns aren’t with the law abiding citizens but are the problem with criminals that obtain guns illegally on the streets . If you take the second amendment rights away from the US citizens that legally possess guns you are leaving ALL law abiding US citizens Vulnerable to Crime and attacks by the criminals who don’t abide by our laws and the crime rate will skyrocket because only the criminals will be bearing arms Illegally. Please help to support and protect our Second Amendment Rights . Thank you . Richard

  • Duane Loomis December 17, 2012, 10:43 am

    All we really need here is just one more law. We need legislation requiring all criminals to obey laws. Having this in place would not only bring all criminals into compliance with existing gun law’s but would also cause them to stop driving drunk, making and selling drugs, robbing people, rape and on and on. Its an easy fix, all we need is a little more legislation……………..Right?

  • Raymond ST.Louis December 17, 2012, 10:45 am

    Look I am a firearms dealer and I will never give up any of my weapons. and to ask that Muslim idiot Barack Obama to take our constitional rights into consideration is a joke. He doesn’t give a damn about this country or our rights. His plan is to distroy this country in any means nessesary and he should be removed from office along with his girl friend Hillary Clinton. Not one Democrat will ever give a damn about our rights to own firearms and protect our families and property. with gun bans the only ones with guns are the criminals

  • Timothy Corcoran December 17, 2012, 10:51 am

    Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens make the country safer. Do not ban or restrict our 2nd amendment rights in any way.

  • frank December 17, 2012, 10:52 am

    every state should let everyone have the right to carry a gun because i think there would be less crime drug pushers and nuts would think twice about doing a crime

  • Bryan December 17, 2012, 10:52 am

    Blaming magazine capacity are weapon type for this grotesque incident Is short sighted and ignorant. It’s about as crazy as blaming this type of insanity on video games….oh wait. That’s why I’m not signing this petition. The focus here should be on how to better address mental health issues in a proactive manner and on security in schools. I’m a law abiding (firearm owning) citizen and I would never do what I am about to write but there is nothing to stop me right now from going into the nearest school armed with knives, firearms, and bombs and committing this same type of disgusting act. The people in “safe zones” are anything but safe. Security ( if they have it) is unarmed and inadiquetly trained and the law abiding citizens are unarmed and defenseless. If there are to be gun free safe zones then make them SAFE! Provide armed security officers that are trained and make more than just over minimum wage. I have worked several security and loss prevention jobs in the past and the lack of training and proper equipment is appalling. I was better armed when not at work then I was at work when I did those jobs and that is a classic example of how politics and fear of law suits have eleminated common sense when it comes to security. These laws are making more victims then they are keeping people safe. There was recently a shooting here where I live at the Clackamas mall (one of the places I used to work loss prevention) and the shooter was armed with a stolen AR-15. He killed two people wounded a third then shot himself. Guns laws and magazine capacity had nothing to do with the ability for this sick person to carry out this act. The inadiquetly, under paid, under trained, and unarmed security did.

  • frank December 17, 2012, 10:53 am

    every state should let everyone have the right to carry a gun because i think there would be less crime drug pushers and nuts would think twice about doing a crime

  • Gwen Ross December 17, 2012, 10:58 am

    It is our right to carry a weapon and know one should take that from us…

  • Joe December 17, 2012, 11:01 am

    The schools need to be protected by armed men and women,who are trained. We have armed protection for gold are Children are much more valuable than any gold or property.

  • Russell Levian December 17, 2012, 11:02 am

    It’s my right to own a gun.

  • Jimmy Chelada December 17, 2012, 11:13 am

    So sad and as we all greive,, we MUST understand what Islam is promoting

  • Dan December 17, 2012, 11:16 am

    I only read the initial 50 posts or so,and don’t know if anyone else has made this point or not. Right now, today, about 100 people have died in auto “accidents” on our nation’s highways. The same happened yesterday, and the same will happen tomorrow and every day into the foreseeable future. Shall we therefore ban or further regulate the use of every vehicle in the US to avert the continuing loss of life on our highways? Cars are far more dangerous to citizens than are guns. Responsible gun owners are far more prevalent than responsible car drivers in this country. Lets keep things in perspective!

  • urbchguy December 17, 2012, 11:18 am

    When obama bans firearms it is only fitting that ALL be banned. This includes his secret service bodyguards around him and his family, bloomberg’s, pelosi’s, feinstine’s, rosie odonnel’s and all other celebs that feel they deserve more protection than us and our kids. See how that flies!!

    A large part of this countrie’s problems start with parents or lack of parenting. They buy adult video games like grand theft auto where you can kill cops, steal and it makes you cool, and all the other violent games for their kids. Most adults wanting to ban firearms feel it is ok to drive after drinking even though it is illegal. Many share their drugs with their kids but even thats ok.

    Everyone should clean their own closet before cleaning mine.

    I could go on all day but sane and intelligent people understand exactly where I am coming from.

  • Vincent Lowers December 17, 2012, 11:19 am

    Ted Nugent SWORE he would be dead or in jail if Obama got re-elected. Guess Ted is still the same coward and ass hole who shit his pants for two weeks without changing them to avoid serving his country like a REAL man. Lets banish Ted and the tea party dipshits who are too un-American to support their own country.

    • Leonard December 17, 2012, 3:30 pm

      Well Vincent, I am a Tea Party supporter. I am a Constitutional conservative, a fiscal conservative, and a gun owner. I also spent 7 years 2 months and 12 days of my life in the US Air Force as a Security Police K-9 handler. I was protecting you and yours. So please be civil and don’t call us “tea party dipshits…unAmerican”. I did my time…how about you?

  • James Seaborn December 17, 2012, 11:20 am

    It is so many remarks about our president not caring or being a Muslim (which is a religious freedom in this country) and other disrespectful remarks that will do more harm than good. There is far too much radical behavior and thinking amongst the gun toting groups of this country. I hear them at the gun shows and see the conspiracy theory videos and anti-Obama literature and our presidents face on targets. Do you really think this puts us gun owners in a positive light or furthers our cause? Absolutely not. It makes us look as crazy as the people who are out their shooting into crowds and our children in schools.
    A responsible gun owner is one who respects the president and this country. It is the radicals and all that conspiracy crap, Obama hate and ignornace that permeates the gun shows that gives us all a bad name and makes us look as crazy as those who are committing such horrendous crimes. It is you people I fear when I go to buy my guns… not the people I can’t see.
    Wake up people! It is you and your radical thinking that instill fear into us good citizens wanting to protect ourselves. It is you people handing out conspiracy videos and literature and selling our nations presidents face on targets or displaying him in minstrel or Muslim form/attire that helps provoke and seed dangerous thoughts into these young people who are entering these gun shows. Even at 18 or 21 a mind can be very impressionable.
    We need more responsible people participating in these shows and less ‘so called’ freedoms to promote radical and violent thinking that conjures up reminders of Hitler/Nazi Ku Klux Klan mentalities.
    I have stood in line with all those ‘good old boys’ talking about how they don’t need to prepare or store food. “We only need our guns so we can take it from those who stored it.” You are the people I fear as I go and buy my guns and supplies. I am preparing myself to protect myself and my family from radical thinking people like you.
    Support your president. You can change his mind much quicker by having someone monitor these sites and eliminate all these ignorant and radical rantings.

  • Kevin S. December 17, 2012, 11:27 am

    There is no question but that guns were the vehicle used to commit this crime. That is a tragedy. Placing additional restrictions on guns however does not address the root cause of the shooting. Additional gun laws are nothing but a “Feel Good” measure taken that will have no effect on the problem because it does not address the root cause of the problem. The recent proliferation of this type of violence has coincided not with a reduction in a gun laws allowing more access to people. It has rather coincided with the proliferation of access to violent video games and morally corrupt movies and media to ALL age groups. The documented truth is that it is the desensitizing of our population to violence and values thru these avenues that are the primary cause of the escalation in senseless shooting and killing of innocent people of all ages.
    Over the weekend I watched parts of the Dallas Cowboy’s football game. Their team suffered a tragedy recently. It was the death of a teammate in a one car accident caused by the use of alcohol. The car was driven by a drunk teammate who survived the crash. During yesterdays game, less than 2 weeks after killing a teammate of his, the driver of the car was on the Cowboys sideline during the game. Even though he is suspended from playing he was there at the request of his teammates who voted to have him on the sideline. During the game this player, who had killed someone less than 2 weeks before hand, was seen on the sidelines, on national TV, laughing and joking with other players. If we need to fight something in our society it is the obvious lack of concern over the value of a lost life by both this player and his Cowboy teammates which is clearly depicted in their carefree actions. This is not just a reflection of just that player or the Dallas Cowboys. It is not a reflection of just professional football or sports. Rather it is a reflection of the callous indifference adopted by our society toward death and violence. It is also a reflection of our values that their is little accountability for the person who caused the death directly by his actions of drinking and driving drunk.
    I have not heard any debate about the role that the car played in this tragedy. Like the guns, it was merely the instrument used to kill. I have also heard little about the role that the drunk player played in this accident. I have not heard the cry for removing the driving rights for all professional football players because they are involved in a higher number of drunk driving accidents than the public at large. I have not heard a call for the restriction on the production of cars over a certain horsepower even though they increase the chance of causing deaths in crashes such as these. Why isn’t there a cry for placing governors on all vehicles so that they cannot go faster than 65 MPH?
    The truth is that we recognize that these inanimate objects are not the cause of the problem. They are merely a tool incorrectly used by the problem. The root of the problem is the individual committing the crime and the society that turns a blind eye to the real cause. The real cause is that our society has become desensitized to violence and death as a result of the prevalence of it in our media. Until we go after the real cause we are just putting a band-aid on the problem with no hope for real resolution.

  • kenneth jones December 17, 2012, 11:28 am

    Remember Guns do not kill people, people kill people. The questions Congress, Senate and you Mr. President should be asking is why are so maney young people becomeing violent?

  • John Scandizzo December 17, 2012, 11:28 am

    What do all of these shooters have in common … the need to be supervised perhaps in a confining institution. We need more institutions for the mentally ill. Wake up America, if it’s not guns, it will be bombs.

  • J.O. SMITH December 17, 2012, 11:29 am

    ENOUGH GUN LAWS NOW.

  • Stephen Oak Lawn ILL. December 17, 2012, 11:29 am

    What happened makes me sick in body and soul. I can’t imagine the feelings of those parents, relatives and friends.
    The fact is, the gun didn’t do the killing, a mentally ill person took a weapon that wasn’t his and did what he did.
    I want to know why it was there to be taken? Why wasn’t it locked in a gun safe, a locked case or at the least a
    trigger lock? The owner of the weapon is directly responsible for allowing access to it!
    Add to that a permissive society producing mal-adjusted, abused,neglected children, dysfunctional families, lack of a framework such as religion to teach moral compass, failure of parents to teach what’s right, wrong, provide dicipline, compassion and social responsibility!
    Everyone blames the gun instead of the the actual cause of what led up to it!
    Even after all that’s happened people will still deny it’s their fault and turn their backs beleiving the killing will stop because they put some words down on paper.

  • fred December 17, 2012, 11:31 am

    What schools need are 2 -fulltime school police officers. Create those jobs for those that need it.Keep the kids safe and put officers in schools permanently!!!!

  • James Seaborn December 17, 2012, 11:31 am

    I see my post is awaiting “moderation”. You moderators need to remove all the ignorant and defamatory remarks that can only hurt the cause of gun ownership. It makes us all look like those very types of people that are shooting our children. It will do so much more harm to our right to bear arms. That is a freedom of speech that I am not interested in supporting. Having raised so many foster kids and worked with so many people with addiction problems and mental health issues, I have heard some of them talk about gun shows and conversations they hear at shooting ranges, gun stores and how easily they agree with that group mentality and I have watched it morph into radical dangerous thinking. Stop the madness. It falls on the shoulder of responsible moderators first as well as those who manage and operate gun shows. You need to make rules against selling or promoting anything conspiracy related as well as anything that represents the leader of our country in anything buy a positive light. You cannot expect a president to take us seriously when you allow this kind of garbage into the public forums on such a sensitive topic. What would you think if it was your face or your family members face that was on a target? Exactly. Put an end to all of this before it puts an end to our rights to own guns.

  • Deester December 17, 2012, 11:36 am

    I stand with all who support our 2nd Amendment.

    I believe laws are simply an “umbrella” that “generally” shield us from “most” of what can happen. But when the wind changes direction unexpectedly, the umbrella can’t provide complete protection so your going to get wet. A bigger umbrella will simply impede your vision and a new crop of UN-intended consequences will be allowed to rise.

    I believe the current laws are “generally” correct however, I believe tweaking WITHIN them is necessary. I don’t find this issue an all-or-nothing debate — the posts above all indicate we truly would lay our lives down for the liberties and convictions we hold dear, but only a few have touched on possible solutions. We all are painfully aware of money constraints in our communities (also an unfortunate issue being delt with today) so generally, a full time police / armed protection to fall within current no-weapons-on-school-property legislation is really not a viable option – but going without has sickeningly proven what an UN-intended consequence truly can be.

    I want my children safe as they spend most of their waking hours focused with our teachers in our community schools ( translation is: “I can’t personally keep them safe when they are under someone else’s care”) and as we all know by now, windows and locks only keep out “honest” people; so what could be a possible solution to my rambling — I find it viable to think in terms of what the airlines have instituted in that pilots have “access” to a firearm (I did not say toting a firearm) and also take a lesson from the military using a two-key access to confirm release of the weapon (missiles, sensitive documents ect…) … maybe even incorporate a panic button networked to the schools head office / Police that has to be depressed FIRST before the safe will accept the two-keys to be turned) Train one, maybe two in the school personnel (its highly likely there IS someone on staff that has had military training) responsible for defense. (As I write, I have a hard time thinking it has to come to this – and even what I am suggesting here give me a lump in my throat, but I don’t believe (nor could I handle) another confirmation of a soft-target shooting to finally invoke some kind of on-site defense).

    It is my understanding the principal, obviously UN-armed, tried to dis-arm him. I know this suggestion of being armed absolutely grates against the mindset of a teacher but yet look how they rallied and indeed laid down their lives unarmed to protect all in their care.

    This is a geographic issue. First responders can only respond after-the-fact. That is not a fault of theirs, simply a limitation to the conditions as they unfold and when they are summoned. They provide an invaluable service, but simply are not front line. Time is of the essence — at this time, my thoughts are even in a slim chance for the designated personnel on site to acquire the firearm is better than the unbelievably heroic measures the principal and other took to provide a human shield for the children.

    The schools practice for all sorts of drills including an intruder but we have to now provide the keepers of our children the wherewithal for this threat. ( I have a hard time thinking we need to “arm” an instructional institute and I don’t take this lightly as “UN-intended consequences” are not exempt here either, but with a well-thought-out plan (my offering above is only concept however a good thought-provoking start WITHIN current gun laws) and multi-level security that absolutely secures the firearm but allows reasonable access in extreme conditions is an unfortunate direction on our horizon.

    Obviously, I have stayed focused on a school scenario but I would be fine for other programs to be put in place. The county I live in does not have a concealed carry or firearm training course – (DNR does) I would suggest it acceptable to have the police initially hold these courses to “put a name to a face”. As someone stated above, we are law-abiding so this should not be an issue. This also allows the officers to “get a feel” for who has purchased a firearm and state of mind. (I understand recent events he tried to buy and was denied, so that part worked) but still got to his mothers firearms — which makes me wonder (I have not heard) if they were secured in a safe or not. This kind of local profiling is better and within the current laws than making alterations or stricter bans on them. Again, time is of the essence.

    We as a pro-2nd Amendment community should help think out and offer solutions on how to weed out the issues rather than just take a belligerent stance, ultimately letting someone else make the decision. If you like the 2nd Amendment, you obviously like control, so take control and make attempts to offer reasonable suggestions that strengthen our community — once you let issues digress to legal language, you have given up your control.

    Strongly consider signing the petition and offer sound solutions for the good of all! We owe the recently departed and the ones still with us, at the very least this much.

    Dee

  • Iceberg0311 December 17, 2012, 11:37 am

    I will not sign this petition while it assigns blame to video games. That’s ridiculous.

  • Joe December 17, 2012, 11:42 am

    Where did the assault rifle come from? He took the two pistols from his mother, which makes me wonder why she thought she needed that kind of power for self protection. It’s a good thing he killed himself. He would have never gone to trial because he was insane. Something made him snap and we’ll never know what it was. Also, if mom owned the guns…. where did the extended clips come from? Where did the assault rifle come from? And don’t blame the video games. This kid was already a loner…no friends and stayed in his room most of the time. The typical profile of a person who would do this sort of thing.

  • Dan Johnson December 17, 2012, 11:43 am

    The second amendment is everybodys right, I don’t want it taken from anybody!! No matter what they carry.

  • JOSEPH December 17, 2012, 11:45 am

    DEAR GA, EVERY time i tried to sign the petition,i tried 12 times at the “white house website” my info was kicked backed and i was unable to sign the GUNS AMERICA petition.i believe that this was being done deliberately by staff at the white house so GA members WOULD BE unable to obtain enough signatures. THIS ADMINISTRATION CANNOT BE TRUSTED AT ANY LEVEL.

    • Administrator December 17, 2012, 11:47 am

      Interesting. It is probably a browser cache issue. Try using a different browser like Chrome, Firefox or Safari. Or use a private session in your existing browser.

  • Don December 17, 2012, 11:46 am

    Let’s stop calling others names an get out the word to have people sign this petition, The people on the other side have petitions and one has over 143,000 signatures. If we don’t do something we will be the losers¡¡¡

  • TCCO December 17, 2012, 11:50 am

    The Clinton ban from 1994-2004 did not have an impact at all on preventing tragedies such as this. According to CDC, the fatalaty rate of homicide by firearm remained hovering around 3 per 100,000. Also, remember the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout? That was 1997, the ban was in place, yet these criminals had full-auto weaponry and I think they even had armour piercing ammo. This is a difficult issue, and to actually amend the constitution would be one step towards a Socialist Police state, which is not acceptable. If someone kills another will driving under the influence, that person is certainly accepted and portrayed as the evil villain (rightfully so), certainly the vehicle is not. But when a shooting occurs, somehow the perpetrator takes the back burner and the gun is the culprit. This is our government and media machine grinding away with their own agenda. If anything this country needs in these time is less government and a leash should be put on the media.

  • paul December 17, 2012, 11:50 am

    As my wife pointed out, in Sleeping Beauty, it was foretold that she would prick her finger on a spinning wheel and go into a long sleep. The king ordered all spinning wheels destroyed, but one was forgotten.

    sound familiar?

  • 2lolo December 17, 2012, 11:52 am

    I’ll be very happy too….

  • TCCO December 17, 2012, 11:52 am

    The Clinton ban from 1994-2004 did not have an impact at all on preventing tragedies such as this. According to CDC, the fatality rate of homicide by firearm remained hovering around 3 per 100,000 (before, during, and after the ban). Remember the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout? That was 1997, the ban was in place, yet these criminals had full-auto weaponry and I think they even had armour piercing ammo. This is a difficult issue, and to actually amend the constitution would be one step towards a Socialist Police state, which is not acceptable. If someone kills another will driving under the influence, that person is certainly accepted and portrayed as the evil villain (rightfully so), certainly the vehicle is not. But when a shooting occurs, somehow the perpetrator takes the back burner and the gun is the culprit. This is our government and media machine grinding away with their own agenda. If anything this country needs in these time is less government and a leash should be put on the media.

  • S. Cahow December 17, 2012, 11:55 am

    We are trying to get as many people as possible to call all their friends, the news media, the white house, and state and federal legislatures and tell Obama to put up or shut up. He can bloody well take all of his own guard’s guns away. He should know he will be so safe, RIGHT? You need to also encourage, if not demand that the legislatures take all of their guard’s guns away. Also demand the truth from the news media about about all of the teachers, coaches and staff that are saying they wish they had their own guns with them. Encourage and demand that your schools provide armed protection on every campus. And REVERSE those deadly “Gun free zone” sings that invite the vilest humans to “visit” your schools. Israel virtually STOPPED all attacks in their schools by training and arming teachers/staff.

  • Marty December 17, 2012, 11:56 am

    Dear Mr. President,

    If even one teacher or other school staff member had been armed, they could’ve easily prevented the deaths of many of those innocent children and adults. The first responders took more than 10 minutes to reach the school. Unfortunately, the old adage of “dial 911 and die” proved all too tragically true this time. Please consider REAL CHANGE. Do away with “gun-free zones,” so our children may be better protected the next time a lunatic comes calling. Allow teachers and other faculty to carry concealed in all schools. Same for churches and other places that are currently designated “gun-free/victim zones.”

    Marty

  • Tom B December 17, 2012, 11:59 am

    Law abidding citizens will follow the law, does Obama actualy think criminals will respect our State and Federal laws?? That’s why they are CRIMINALS!!!!!! If teachers were armed, this would not happen… How many times does a GUN STORE get robbed???? A citizen is SAFER in a GUN STORE, than at a Mall or Wal-wart or even a Church.. Pretty sad…
    Merry Christmas
    Tom [Wisconsin]

  • daddyvortex December 17, 2012, 12:05 pm

    As long as we’re reshaping the Constitution for a little imaginary security and where my rights, though I have given offense to no one, are about to be terminated, here are some modest proposals so all who have rights secured by the constitution have some skin in the game. “America will have to change” will involve the following to guarantee success (hint: it’s pretty much a stricter version of North Korea).

    1. Free speech and the rights to a “press” have to be “modified”. The story of the killings is endlessly reiterated, and may well appeal to sick people who want a short cut to “make a difference” and be celebrated for it even as a great villain. Such stories and the endless analysis of experts has to be suppressed. This will make it less likely that someone is motivated to do this. Unfortunately, all media outlets will have to be taken over by the Federal government. Individuals passing on such information will be arrested. Anonymity on the internet only contributes to the “problem”, so all computers will have to be registered and all access leading to other people and their computers will have to be regulated and controlled as it is in that most civilized of countries, China. Video games and literature describing violent acts and weapons porn will be extirpated as encouragement of violence. Anti-bullying and PC thought and expression will have to be ubiquitous as this is the kindness and caring we want people to be thinking of. Thought crime, when it is suspected by illegal possession of texts and computer data describing violence or weapons, should be the first line of defense and where found should lead to custody without bail for the safety of society. A society willing to jail a significant fraction of its subjects for possession of drugs would find this policy a natural extension of past “wars” on this or that. Room may be made in current institutions of incarceration by releasing non-violent offenders of every sort while additional capacity is built.

    a. Religion with its claptrap of struggle with evil and notions of free will must be modified as that leads to conflict and thoughts of violence against others. Lessons of love and peace and sacrifice for the good of others only are allowed. The rest must be suppressed so we may be free of violence. Religion must enlist in the battle to indoctrinate the future of the Secure United States of America.

    b. Elections and choice are violence-making thought crime. People must be made free of this and the last Administration in office must be the permanent government committed to the control and termination of violence. New leaders might cause change and that cannot be tolerated.

    c. Our ruling elite knows best what is good for us and must not be hindered by restrictions, review or the like. They will not be to fully implement this vision of a peaceful, secure America without unfettered power. Someone has to stop the violence in mankind.

    2. Freedom of travel leads to murderers finding victims. Except for the transport of goods, each goods and transport driver with his government minder, all subjects will be restricted to their homes. When your application to travel is received, a bus will arrive on one of the inflexible schedules to take you there. If you need something, it will be delivered at your expense. Any clothing that might conceal a weapon must be done away with in public, tight unitards are it. All work shall be done at home. Shortly, all living shall be communal in government controlled dormitories as living separately is anti-social and may lead to conflict.

    3. Property rights lead to jealousy and covetousness hence to conflict, crime and violence. The state shall hold all property. Why would you need your own property in such a society?

    4. The mentally ill have to be carefully controlled, at the very least electronically monitored, and those falling into the most risky categories (and safety of others will be the primary criterion) will have to be institutionalized, their freedom sacrificed for the good of all.

    5. Children have to be educated, but in a security-oriented manner, so they must be separated from their parents and secreted in proper institutions where they will be safe from domestic and external violence. They will be properly indoctrinated so thoughts of violence cannot arise in the future. The security system must not be upset by independent thinking or false notions of progress by new technology. Therefore, education must be limited to the basics, for fear that individuals minds might be poisoned by improper thoughts or information.

    6. While America will need a vastly expanded police state (sorry, I mean “police force”), we do not need an army, air force or navy. There need be no interests abroad as that involves travel and possible smuggling of weapons and contamination of the people by violence mongering ideas and methods. We have been assured that people reacting to the violence potential of the U.S. armed services is what causes all conflict in the world so dissolving the services and scrapping their weapons will restore peace to the world. There can be no tolerance of foreigners in the U.S. as their upbringing and education may not meet our standards; why risk letting any potential murders in at all?

    7. Oh, and ban and confiscate all firearms, ammunition, and the knowledge and materials necessary to build these. Only then can we be free from this historical scourge.

    -or-

    You could arm and train school officials in handling and repelling attack. This is doable, practical and the costs can actually be accurately predicted. Requiring the Sandy Hook School principal to hurl herself unarmed at the murderer to her certain death working at an institution proudly advertised as a “gun free zone” is what is wrong headed and an exercise of PC wishful thinking. While her self-sacrifice was heroic, it accomplished nothing. Such a commitment to something practical would make children safer. Those arguing that the first and perhaps the only thing to do is ban all firearms merely extend the opportunity to murderers of a “weapon free zone” to all of America.

    Feel good about that, my liberal friends? Then send your children back to these slaughter pens in January, unless you are the elite that can afford armed security as the President and his family enjoys at public expense.

    • DanG December 18, 2012, 11:44 pm

      Not just school officials, but also licensed law abiding citizens who get the training and license/permit to carry. Not just schools, but all so called “gun free zones”. This is where all the shootings seem to happen because of all the “easy” targets.

  • Dusty December 17, 2012, 12:08 pm

    In place of the word “tragedy”, can we please use the word “atrocity”? Like 9/11, this was not some sad accident. It was a vile, deliberate act of a coward and bully. We don’t see these atrocites attempted at police stations, or other places where the potential victims are armed. I refuse to bestow any sort of dignity on these sub-humans.

  • Millard Huff December 17, 2012, 12:11 pm

    I’M a disabled combat vietnam vet and i be damn if i’m going to stand by and watch this government try and take the 2nd AMENDMENT away from we the people i will not and cannot stand for this i signed this petition because we need no more restrict on our 2nd amendment rights and no more gun control it does not work and never will.

  • Alkemyst December 17, 2012, 12:12 pm

    Although I am signing this petition, I must agree with those above that the video games were to blame. I play Dead Space, Call of Duty, Call of Duty:Modern Warfare and various other first person shooters and war simulations. Just as the weapons used in this atrocity were not to blame, so are video games a tool, only for entertainment. If video games played a role, it is that it only increased a break from reality that already existed. They did not initiate the break. Just because a sequence in Modern Warfare 2 called for the mass murder of civilians in an airport does not mean that I have any iota of intention of attempting to carry out such a thing in real life for the same reason that most of us do: IT IS WRONG. For the vast majority of people, nothing justifies the mass murder of innocent people, children topping the list of innocents. No weapon, no game, no law will change that, just as it won’t make someone incapable of feeling empathy toward another human being suddenly have it.

  • Glenn Long December 17, 2012, 12:13 pm

    We don’t need more laws , just enforce the ones we have !

  • kwl December 17, 2012, 12:14 pm

    many responses here with hopes and thoughts of doing the right thing as a nation , my 2 cents , let us all for a moment put your self in one of those parents shoes , we cannot begin to understand how they feel or what is the next step to rebuild (if possible) the emptyness that has a hold on them. I have kids , one a cop , one a criminal justice major soon to work for the FBI (maybe) . I could not imagine life with out them. and the paths they have chosen or will put them in harms way everyday . And for who ? us all. yes they carry guns , yes I’m an avid gun owner and hunter .yes I was in the military, yes have lost friends and family to war. are guns the real problem ? or our fear of offending someone in our culture that thier kid needs help and NOW!! you will find the history is there on the people that committ such acts . How do we identify early on of these type of kids becoming adults and doing such things. And getting them help , we all know them in our towns and cities . we just don’t know when and if they will snap some day . Mental health is key , education is key. parenting is key , I don’t have a solution , but I’m convinced its not guns as the problem , its the guy using it , my thoughts are with those that have lost so much during this time of year for forgiving and giving , Christmas will never be the same for them, you and I will move on , they will never. Mental health !!!! not gun control

  • I'm that guy December 17, 2012, 12:15 pm

    BO is not a muslim or a socialist and he does believe in the Constitution.
    And I am a FULL supporter of the 2nd Amendment!!!!!!
    What happened to rationality in this country? Where did all the moderates go?
    Why are we all so apt to believe in silly propaganda spewed at us unrelentlessly by media blowhards that tell you whatever they believe will keep their ratings up?
    So all of you really believe that every national security agency such as the FBI, CIA, NSA etc etc didn’t vet BO before he ran for president to ensure he wasn’t a muslim or born in another country? Really. If you actually believe we have a muslim socialist foreigner in the white house, you have no faith left in this country.
    I believe in this country. I believe we still function as one of the great countries of this world.
    I believe in thinking for myself and determining what is fact and fiction on my own and not just believing whatever someone else on TV or the radio tells me is “fact”.
    Where’s the men and women from the first 3/4s of the 20th century that respected other’s beliefs and political views and worked with their opponents to meet in the middle ground, make concessions on both sides, to make this a greater country for our children???
    Now all I see, on both sides of the aisle, are a bunch of “kids” demanding “their way or the highway” approach and it’s tearing the walls of this great country down in a hurry.
    I was raised to respect, honor, and if necessary serve my commander in chief REGARDLESS OF HIS POLITICAL BENT.
    Republican or Democrat, I have always respected and supported the President of the United States, no matter how much I may have disagreed with him on this or that topic. It was how I was raised. What happened to patriotism that raised us to respect and honor our leaders, not belittle and disrespect them, even in times of disagreement.
    Where’s our faith in this country? I still have it. Do you?

    May the 2nd Amendment stand strong and unchanged!!!

  • rick December 17, 2012, 12:18 pm

    Don is on track.
    Most of the comments; whether intelligent, ill-considered, right or wrong about what they express, are off the subject at hand. The matter before us is this: Will you sign the petition?
    If you will not sign for reasons intrinsic to yourself and your world view, please leave them and unrelated observations about society, out of the discussion for now. If the reasons have to do with the petition, then let us productively discuss how to improve it. Anything else does not immediately contribute to our mutual purpose, i.e., a petition presented with 25,000 signatures, which we share by implication through the action of logging-on.
    I offer these critical observations:
    1) The petition is much too long
    2) It is not quotable
    3) It is nauseatingly obsequious in tone
    Our Adversary-in-Chief cares nothing for the Constitution, the rule of Law, or individual rights. Personal defense rests on the idea of individual initiative. Does a collectivist embrace that concept? Finally, why do we end our supplication with an appeal to fairness? It’s as if a thief broke into our warehouse and we react as if he’s simply wandered in, provide him directions, and neglect to mention that he’s on our property. Yes, yes, he is powerful and has unseen allies, but by analogy, it is confrontational to inform a trespasser that he has strayed?
    Finally, we must address the greater audience. If we hope win over the uninformed our points better be sharply brief, memorable, and appeal to common sense. The weakness of all utopian schemes is the suspension of belief in the real world and a preference for the idealized brighter world to come. It’s sustainable only as long as the consequences are remote and ultimately when someone else picks up the tab.
    When you choose to desperately place your body in front of a bullet, the consequences are usually severe and frequently final. Even if every teacher were heroically willing do so, everyone knows that is not effective.
    The liberals will then propose professional protection. The conflict will shape up around this and our adversaries will seek to exploit the sentiment for safer and better schools to gain more votes and power. This is a political struggle and this group seems a bit inept. The Libertarian Party just released a very effective response on the issue. May I suggest we learn from it? Its title follows: Halt the Massacre of Innocent Children by Ending Prohibition on Self-Defense in Schools

  • james r jeffries December 17, 2012, 12:19 pm

    Yeah, media and politicans don’t care,just use it to make money,and for their own agenda.Police can’t protect u, yet we spend billions.Would rather be shot than many, many other ways of dieing.Also, too much trouble to get my voice heard.It’s been almost a week and no sign of the media slowing down.Notice they still advertise.Station an armed ex soldier in schools.that needs a job, with shoot to kill authorization.And to every one, thats against guns, any reasonably strong person can kill without a gun.Even a guitar string can kill, and a knife can be fashioned out of almost anything.I have no patience with the ignorant crap of the media,lawyers,and politicians.James r. Jeffries

  • 2 Marines December 17, 2012, 12:21 pm

    Yeah guys, enough is enough on the “gun ban and gun laws BS”, It is such a tragity, the killings of all those inocent kids and adults!, same as Colorado, same as Columbine, they all are devistating!. Folks it’s not the guns that kill it’s the psyco’s behind the trigger!, People that qualify, pass background, have regular jobs and love either collecting or target shooting, DO NOT GO OUT AND KILL PEOPLE. This kid in Newtown unfortunatly had a mental problem, as did the idiot in Colorado, they stole legaly owned weapons and did the deeds, just as gang bangers do!, they don’t buy guns legally either..
    It’s so very terrible this happened again, but people wake up, Obahma wake up man!, if parents are asking for help with their disturbed child, HELP THEM!, don’t hurt the “law abiding citizen”, stop the BS BANS & LAWS

  • Kevin R December 17, 2012, 12:24 pm

    To those who may be concerned/
    I live in suburbs of New York and there are an increasing number of break-ins, robberies and shootings.
    They seem to never talk about the illegal weapons used. Let’s not forget these resident evils are out there no mater
    what weapon is used. Case in point “America was brought to its knees with box cutters” killing thousands of people, and there is the Oklahoma City bombing. Regulations stop good people not bad ones they find the guns illegally
    or find other ways to kill EST. I would be able to protect my family and friends my self than weight for 30 min for the authorities to come.

  • rick December 17, 2012, 12:35 pm

    To the administrator;

    Most of us would like to see the tally of signers, I’d bet. It might generate more enthusiasm if you placed a counter on the page. A little boost from the active feedback is typical I’d think.

    • Administrator December 17, 2012, 12:41 pm

      The WH site has one and there is no widget to pull it over to here.

  • Mike S. December 17, 2012, 12:37 pm

    If you want to do something meaningful write an individual letter to each of your senators and congressmen. Petitions are meaningless.

  • Joelz December 17, 2012, 12:39 pm

    No one has mentioned yet that the Columbine shootings were done at the time of the federal assault weapons ban law. Need that be explained further.

  • David Steen December 17, 2012, 12:40 pm

    I think that Giving our returning troops jobs pulling security is a GREAT idea. It solves multiple problems all at once, so sadly it would totaly baffle Washington. I live in South Carolina,and I graduated High School in 1986, and the only issue we had with guns was the Principle making an announcement that we had to put our Long guns in the trunk of our cars,out of sight,during hunting season. Never a theft,nor incident.
    Now we have a Deputy assigned to each school,since Columnbine just as a preventative measure. Never any problems,just cuatious.

  • Melisa December 17, 2012, 12:42 pm

    It would have took just one person to stop all of this loss, if just one person in that school had access to a fire arm. With out it all our children and staff in our schools are just sitting ducks. They have NO way to protect our children. If they had this could have been prevented. What are they going to do? This is not the last time this will happen as much as it breaks my heart to say that. There is always going to be some crazy person who gets there gun illegaly and goes on a killing spree only to take there life after so that they can have no accountability for what they have just done. Meanwhile all these familys have to grieve and hurt every day for the rest of there lives. I no longer feel my children are safe going to school. Schools PLEASE ARM YOURSELVES!!!!

  • pete b December 17, 2012, 12:45 pm

    My Country, OUR Country, the U.S.A. land of the free, and home of the brave! the right to keep and have arms.
    i am an 8 yr combat veteran, all veterans gave some and some gave all.. it was all done for one reason, to help keep the U.S.A. a free country and to protect the GOD given rights what those before us gave up to keep this a free nation. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE WARS, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE WHO ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH, AND WHO PERFORM EVIL DEEDS AND WANT TO BRING HARM TO THOSE THAT ARE CLOSE AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS. NOW IS THE TIME MORE THEN EVER TO WEED OUT! CUT THE HEADS! OF OF THOSE WHO DO THIS TYPE OF DEED! TAKING AWAY OUR GUN RIGHTS IS NOT THE ANSWER!!
    MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THOSE WHO ARE STILL WILLING TO FIGHT FOR LIBERTY.

  • Billy Rippy December 17, 2012, 12:55 pm

    I was an elected constable here in Ky.I am now disabled and can not do much to protect my family.have had my conciled and carry permit for many years.we did not have to worry about a person that had their weapons permit.they have been checked for felonies and breaking the law.we have a good law enforcement in our city county and state.but sometimes you only have a second to react.and they cant get to you in time.so you do what you have to.so my weapons mean a lot to me.and my wife knows how to protect her self.now she might scare me. If just one teacher had a weapon and knew how to use it this whole story might have turned out different.GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN AND THE PARENTS!!!!!

    • Susan Hendershot December 17, 2012, 2:08 pm

      I agree with your statement. These days our world is so different than it was when I was growing up. It’s sad to say that our world has turned into this. One person with a gun on the premesis who was taught safely how to use it may prevent this from happening again, whether it be a guard, principle, teacher and I’m not talking just bigger schools in highly congested areas, I’m talking any school, because this can happen in small schools as well. i have small grandchildren and would never want to receive the call saying something like this hasd happened to them. My heart breaks for these families. So so sorry!!

  • Robert Gardella December 17, 2012, 1:06 pm

    The GOVERNMENT, not the people, have created these problems!
    Taking guns away from honest citizens is not the answer.

  • Scott December 17, 2012, 1:13 pm

    The more insight we get, the more we learn that there is a greatly ignored relationship between the use of prescription drugs for behavior modification and for poorly measured and more likely contrived mental/social disorders. Seldom will the media ever identify that these drugs are destroying our young people and are contributing to these perverse actions. I am also a retired principal from the public school system, and I have never seen a positive outcome from medication–they do not improve academically and too many become severely out of touch. They contribute to extreme actions to include suicide, violence, and substance abuse. I also believe they contribute to sociopathic and addictive personalities. I bet we will never learn whether or not this “psycho” has a history of medication. The media would rather use this as another incident to restrict law abiding people from protecting themselves and to create another polarizing issue. Watch Medical, Inc, a new documentary about the drug industry, if you can get it. These horrifying incidents are what you get when you educate too many children in an overcrowded fishbowl, medicate them as newborns and continue to medicate them lined up at the nurse’s desk. In today’s world, you cannot protect them enough, because there is just too much to protect them from.

  • ross krumpe December 17, 2012, 1:15 pm

    Keep our second amendment rights. And , ditto.

    Ross Krumpe

    • James Tanner December 17, 2012, 1:43 pm

      Why is my reply

  • Charles DiDonato December 17, 2012, 1:30 pm

    I understand the extreme amount of sadness and at the same time anger this has caused our nation. However, let’s not do the “liberal thing” and penalize everyone for the acts of a few. And remember, at this point its all about “politics” and using a tragedy like this to strenghthen a personal agenda is not the answer. Hopefully, people on both sides of the argument can meet and discuss the best way to address this issue without hurting the 99.9999% of good, law abiding gun owners.

  • phil December 17, 2012, 1:32 pm

    As a law abiding gun owner, AND a game developer, I can’t sign a petition that implies that video games are what made Lanza gun down kids.
    It’s disappointing to me to see you guys so casually throw games, movies, and TV under the bus in order to deflect scrutiny from the gun issue.
    I would have otherwise signed the petition and agreed with it’s sentiment. One ignorant sentence and you lost my support.
    Playing video games doesn’t make someone a murdering psychopath any more than having a piece of “plastic and steel” in hand.
    All you’re doing is using ignorance to fight ignorance.

  • anthony rozzi December 17, 2012, 1:39 pm

    Law abidding gun owners do not hurt people, the crimanials will always have illegal weapons

  • Matthew December 17, 2012, 1:46 pm

    its funny how nobodys asking why are all these people useing the same kind of gun. just so happens to be the kind there trying to ban. It fits to perfect to be wrong. they are trying to make us so were not on the same playing field as our military and homeland sec. somethings comming. this country was won and fought for with guns. our military kill people all the time. with air missels can they garentee they dont kill children, no there just colladeral damage. the movie massacer didnt upset the people so they took it one step ferther kill deffenceless kids. think about it people. whose country is this? when will they stop taking your rights after one its easy to get the rest.

  • Robert Johnson December 17, 2012, 1:48 pm

    Most people with guns are wanting to protect them selves from idiots that shoot people.

  • Matthew December 17, 2012, 1:51 pm

    paitiotizem died when we all became lams to the slaghter.

  • Susan Hendershot December 17, 2012, 1:52 pm

    I feel so sad for the families of these tragedies, but our President needs to understand this senseless act was committed by a person with obvious mental problems to kill numerous innocent children. For people who are law abiding citizens and do the background checks to obtain their firearms,further control would not help anything. This will continue to happen, look at Australia for instance, gun aren’t legal there at all, and their crime rate for shootings is extremely high. These people either steal guns or obtain them illegally. I do however feel that when you register for background checks you should have to put on the applicaton whether you are seen for mental health issues, no matter what they are, without devulging what they are, this should be a red flag when applying for a gun, and these people should not be able to purchase firearms for any reason, maybe this would help with situatons such as these.

  • Steven D December 17, 2012, 2:00 pm

    Guns don’t kill, the crazy people and criminals do.

  • quinton December 17, 2012, 2:11 pm

    something like this always brings the wingnuts out. Those of us that enjoy gun sports need to be proactive. Offer up solutions. Don’t just rail about 2nd ammendent rights.
    Several problems surfaced as a result of that massacre. !. The school recognized the need for restricted access and security at the entrance. But did not have the funds to secure access sufficiently. Solution; provide funds and expertise for schools to fortify their entrences sufficienty to with stand an attempted force entry for a sufficient time for law enforcement to arrive. Granted this is a passive defence, but schools are “weak” fortrices now. Make them strong enough to hold out an assaiiant until law enforcement arrives. They are the ones to confront the assailant.
    Assualt weapons. There will ge a clammer for banning. That won’t happen but there may be a stupid compromise law passed, like last time. Instead lets offer up the following.2. Assault weapons are to be kept locked unless in use. The owner of the gun must possess the key at all times. Large capacity magazines are permitted only on gun ranges. For hunting use no more than an 8 round magazine can be used.
    If these two simple policies had been in force those children would be alive.

    • DanG December 19, 2012, 1:08 am

      I’m pretty sure it would still turned out about the same way. Limiting magazines, banning guns, more laws won”t stop bad people from doing bad things. It only regulates the law abiding people. In this case, he killed to take the guns he used. If not his mother, he would have gotten them somewhere else by steeling. Or worse he might just have blown the whole school up or at least the classroom as happened in other countries. The gun doesn’t make the crime happen, neither does the magazine. We need to deal with the mentally ill.

  • Matthew December 17, 2012, 2:11 pm

    People please dont take me the wrong way. I love this country, i just dont like being lied to and used. we all need to wake up is all im saying

  • Fran Dumaw December 17, 2012, 2:19 pm

    What happened to those teachers and children was a tragedy we will never forget. And these situations will be repeated in the future as long as the media is allowed to make the perpetrators out as glorified products of our society. No gun control law will correct the mental health of those inflicted. Additional institution protection will help those in school, churches, shopping malls or where ever people congregate, but, what laws or protection installation has ever stopped the mentally deranged from committing their horrendous crimes. If firearms are banned these people will use any devise available to perform their horrendous deeds. The Government needs to attack the problem not the devices used to perform these tragedies. Lets hope,we as voters can get the right agencies involved to at least get on the right track to help eliminate these tragedies. Our Government has to find out a way to get over their nitpicking and finger pointing ways and start acting like the representatives the American voters put in office to represent them. They have to represent all our residents and not just their party.

  • KEVIN December 17, 2012, 2:23 pm

    PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE NOT GUNS! THE MORE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS CARRY GUNS THE LESS LIKELY INNOCENT VICTIMS WILL BE KILLED!

  • Tommie Mobley December 17, 2012, 2:33 pm

    ditto

  • scott December 17, 2012, 2:48 pm

    taking away all the guns have never work , as seen in many country s if some one wants to kill they will then use a airplane , a bomb , a truck , a car, open a gas line and light it , anything ! just look at the country’s we have been fighting in ! they just need to be locked up at home and better yet get help for crazy people like this ! let invest in our country the u.s.a. !!! not send millions to other the country s that want us to go home !!!!!

  • Concerned gun enthusiast December 17, 2012, 2:53 pm

    It seems to me that too many people on both sides of the spectrum are using this unspeakable tragedy to further their own personal political agendas. They’re ignoring that there are obvious avenues to pursue which might lesson the consequences of such acts, if not actually preventing them from happening in the future.
    I personally am a gun enthusiast (I have a small collection and have been a member of the NRA for much of my adult life) and was a hunter in my younger days, but I’ve never felt the need to possess an assault rifle. It certainly has no purpose other than to kill humans on a mass scale; can you imagine hunting deer with one? A ban on these weapons doesn’t infringe on my rights in any way that I can see.
    This latest tragedy probably could not have been avoided, even if we had had much tougher gun laws in place, but I believe that the severity most certainly would have been lessened if a semi-automatic rifle had not been available to the murderer.
    Why can’t we all agree that weapons of mass murder have no place in our civilian society? What possible rational could anyone have for owning such a weapon?
    Without question there’s going to be a huge backlash over this situation and there’ll be a big push to outlaw guns. As a gun enthusiast, I believe that a ban on semi-automatic rifles would go a long way towards calming everyone and might even placate some of the anti-gun people from pursuing more extreme measures as well.
    A very concerned gun owner.

    • DanG December 19, 2012, 1:00 am

      My heart and prayers go out to the families of this tragedy.

      No amout of laws or bans will ever stop an evil person bent on comitting crimes.

      The Clinton AWB did NOTHING to stop crime! The Fbi statistics showed that. That’s why congress let it expire.

      A true assault weapon is Full automatic not semi automatic. People pick on the look of a gun rather than what it does. A lever action or pump can be shot just about as fast. A bolt action will kill the same. The Second Amendmendment is about all firearms, not pick and choose what one might not approve on.
      As a gun enthusiast you should not give in on any type of gun you shoud support the lawful ownership of all firearms.
      Just FYI: According to FBI statistics, not one lawfully owned machine gun has ever been used in a crime.

      Bans only take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. This psycho killed for the guns he took. He was refused sale by a dealership because of his status. Any weapon can be used for mass murder.

  • Willie Dumas December 17, 2012, 2:56 pm

    I am an army veteran, former correctional officer, and firearms instructor, and I do not believe that imposing more restrictions on law abiding americans will deter the violence that is rampant in our society today. stricter enforcement of the existing laws, and critical upgrades to the background check system, specifically with reguard to mental health records, and programs to educate and hold accountable those that allow guns to fall into the wrong hands would be a much more common sense approach to the current problem.

    • Terry December 17, 2012, 3:27 pm

      I like to say I believe you are correct. If you look at my post I beleive there should be consistent regualation, not huge difference from one state to next.

  • Will December 17, 2012, 3:11 pm

    If MY people who are called by MY name will humble themselves, repent and turn from their wicked ways I will hear them and heal their land!

  • Win December 17, 2012, 3:17 pm

    Banning guns is not the answer. It’s like banning cars because of a car wreck, the car didn’t drive itself into the wreck, a person is responsible.

  • Luke December 17, 2012, 3:21 pm

    In deference to Bob Costas we live in a culture that is becomming more and more an antigun culture. If it were not so then there would be no problem training and arming teachers. But sadly our antigun culture will not go there. Teachers and law enforcement officers share responsibilities and dangers. It is only reasonable that they be aforded some of the same training as officers, such as, intensive close quarters firearms training and the right to defend themselves. Then they would be better able to defend the children entrusted to their care. I would call for a requirement for teacher certification responsible firearms training along with full encouragement and legal right to bear arms in thier place of duty. Is this war? If war then we do not sit idly by and be slaughtered. If you want to call it war then it is not law abiding 1st graders, teachers, and those that believe in upholding the constitution that initiated it. We must defend ourselves and our children. Passing more laws that “infringe” on constitutional rights is not the answer. If one part of the constitution can be so infringed the the entire guiding document is null and void because any part or all can be negated and any time. Teachers mus adopt the public protection responsibility mindset required to be a leo. If they can’t do that then they are not qualified to be teachers.
    Infringement on any

  • Terry December 17, 2012, 3:22 pm

    I am greatly fond of my guns and I enjoy the freedom they bring. With that said go to http://news.yahoo.com/conn-victims-lively-youngsters-devoted-adults-190832900.html. Look at the faces of those children and then tell the rest of us nothing needs to be done. At least what needs to be done is that every state is consistent on the way firearms ownership is handled, some states need to be stricter than they are some more lax, concealed carry needs to be the same every where and if you have permit for one state it is good in all states. I for one would not mind special license or tax or limit on the magazines for my AR. We as gun owners need to take responsibility for our guns, rember couple things. Nothing worth having comes easy, and with great power comes great responsibility.

  • Michael Wright December 17, 2012, 3:24 pm

    You can’t legislate crazy people

  • michael December 17, 2012, 3:39 pm

    my guess, if an investigation were launched and dug deep enough we would find obama and his flunkies are behind these school shooting just like his arizona gun running debacle.
    obama has only one goal, to destroy America for his puppet masters.
    how does an avowed muslim appeal to the only real God that has been part of America’s infrastructure since it’s inception, with a straight face?
    doesn’t America see thru his charade? i guess not they re elected him again so he can complete the destruction of America.
    we are so stupid!!!!!!

  • curly December 17, 2012, 3:41 pm

    Yes, I saw this before…it is a great way to look at the problem…the problem of not wanting to really address the problem.

    Banning guns is not the answer. It’s like banning cars because of a car wreck, the car didn’t drive itself into the wreck, a person is responsible.

  • curly December 17, 2012, 3:42 pm

    Banning guns is not the answer. It’s like banning cars because of a car wreck, the car didn’t drive itself into the wreck, a person is responsible.

  • jon December 17, 2012, 3:57 pm

    I haven’t read all of the above blogs, so I may be repeating one. Anyway, here goes. Obama is going to do what he wants. No amount of signitures on a petition will deter him. All we are doing by signing this is giving him another 25000 easily identified names and faces to send his minions after.

  • G. LEISTER December 17, 2012, 4:06 pm

    I ALSO AGREE THAT WE CAN NOT INGORE SOME NEW GUN LAWS , BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CANNOT INGORE THE BANNING OF GRAPHIC VIDEO GAMES THAT ARE TRAINNING SIMULATORS FOR TRAGEDYS LIKE THIS. CHILDREN CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE TYPES OF WEAPONS IN ONE DAY THAN I DID MY FIRST WEEK OF WEAPONS SCHOOL WHILE SERVING IN THE US.MARINE CORPS . I AM A FATHER AND GRANDFATHER AND HAVE ALWAYS TAUGHT SAFTEY ABOVE ALL ELSE .THIS IS A SLIPERY SLOPE BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ! ..

  • adam December 17, 2012, 4:11 pm

    I agree with you guys 100% but please do not let kids under 18 or 21 to attend shooting ranges no matter if with paarents or any other adults, don’t let kids to be familiar with deadly weapons, don’t let them have any phisical contact with firearms, this stupid mother also caused this tragedy and also paid the price for this. Those stupid American movies is a different story, but that’s what our youngones are feeding day and night and everywhere

  • Joel A. Russ December 17, 2012, 4:13 pm

    There is no reason for those who did not serve their country to have a gun in their posession. They didn’t want to suport their country, then why sould they have the right to own and/or carry one. As for the second ammendment, or the right to bare arms, was ment to have the abiliity to defend this country, not to target shoot or otherwise. One doesn’t need an assult or semi auto rifle to target shoot, hunt, or defend themselves. A revolver and/or single shot rifle will do the job if the owner knows how to use it. I would venture to say that most of those who own guns don’t know what the law is about their use anyway, and/or proper safe storage. Remember, back in the day when the second ammendment came about there were only single shot rifles and pistols avalible.

    • Timothy Morgan December 17, 2012, 7:55 pm

      Sir , I think you need to sit down in a quiet room and read these parts of the constitution that you seem to know so much about. As for not owning a gun if you haven’t served, i don’t think you could get a single active or non-active service man or woman to agree with you.

  • G. Slaybaugh December 17, 2012, 4:44 pm

    I am a retired law enforcement agent. I value my freedoms. Please don’t tread on law abiding citizens for gun control.

  • jeff December 17, 2012, 4:49 pm

    You guys are dead wrong. Legislation COULD have prevented this tragedy. As responsible gun owners we need to be advocates FOR stricter guns ownership laws. In this case Nancy Lanza was acting irresponsibly have weapons accessible to a mentally ill person living in her house. Had those guns been required to be off premises or at least stored in a combination locked safe, as long as a mentally ill person lived in her house, 20 children would be alive today. The strict gun laws of Connecticut, kept those children alive a little longer by denying him access to a weapon when he tried to purchase one. We need LAWS that require all mental health care professionals access to a database denying ownership to ANY mentally ill person. Gun don’t kill people correct? So let’s stick together and keep guns AWAY from those that should not own them. The response is going to be to ban assault weapons, which helps NO ONE. Federally required, waiting periods and background checks for ALL gun purchases. If we are going to make cars safer through technology, we can make guns safer. If we are going to require licensing to drive autos, we can require training and licensing to gun owners to possibly alleviate those waiting periods and background checks. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with gun collecting or crime or self defense. In the safest city in the USA who was Nancy Lanza protecting herself from? Her child? Then she was stupid for even allowing him in the house. The 2nd amendment was meant to maintain firearms parity with a tyrannous government, and we gave up that right LONG ago. Who has a tank or artillery piece in their garage? We have a right to own weapons. We have a choice to act responsibly. There IS a middle ground. To stand idly by while the next idiot is planning another massacre is irresponsible gun stewardship. To force people to arm themselves is irresponsible gun stewardship. If I write Obama, it will be to ensure we do a LOT more to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people. I hope you stand with me, because the alternative is to start banning guns. and THAT would be irresponsible gun stewardship.

  • Mike December 17, 2012, 5:16 pm

    I understand the emotional reason for believing that the gun debate should be opened, but that is not the real issue at stake here.
    Mental health has been kicked to the side line as something that can be managed with a pill and an outpatient service. This is far from the truth, but in the 1980’s the ACLU won the freedom for many of the people who suffer from the disease. It was explained away as eccentric or “creative” behavior; this is a fancy disguise for someone experiencing psychosis or schizophrenia, and should be properly addressed by a licensed Psychologist.
    I believe the answer is to bring back the ability to hold someone for observation if violent behavior is observed. Nancy Laza knew she had a ticking time bomb on her hands, but the resources to help are simply just not there.
    While it is easy and convenient to blame a product for what happened, it will not address the underpinning problem. Please steer this debate in the right direction and do something to help the people struggling with mental disorders.

  • Revsuzanne December 17, 2012, 5:18 pm

    The last several presidents were not elected legitimately… least of all this one. The Diebold black box voting machines are hacked routinely.
    For those that are afraid that signing a petition to have your voice heard… get over it… the FBI is storing all of your e-mails for future reference in megafarms.
    Even more important than this petition,
    please go to the Soldier Hugs site http://www.soldierhugs.com and sign the new Declaration of Independence,
    then go to the White House site https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-people-now-re-declare-2012…-declaration-independence/0mtlLrYl?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
    and sign the new declaration of independence.
    Both are necessary. This is about reasserting our rights to a self-described elite that thinks they own us all. If we fail, they have 800 FEMA camps with modern guillotines ready for us.

    On this shooting… this was an obvious MK-Ultra operation… the people who do this have the technique down to one afternoon of programming, particularly if the subject is already on psychiatric drugs. Take a look at that guy that just shot up the mall and then turned the gun on himself. Look again at the guy that shot up the theatre in Aurora… the drugged-up twit they presented in court didn’t in any way resemble the student ID they were showing on the news… not race, eye or hair color, not even the general shape of the face.

  • adam December 17, 2012, 5:22 pm

    please let me know how could I signe your pettition, I appreciate your opinions, you aime in a good target and your score is 10+ Thank you

  • chester gross December 17, 2012, 5:29 pm

    mr obamaYou guys are dead wrong. Legislation COULD have prevented this tragedy. As responsible gun owners we need to be advocates FOR stricter guns ownership laws. In this case Nancy Lanza was acting irresponsibly have weapons accessible to a mentally ill person living in her house. Had those guns been required to be off premises or at least stored in a combination locked safe, as long as a mentally ill person lived in her house, 20 children would be alive today. The strict gun laws of Connecticut, kept those children alive a little longer by denying him access to a weapon when he tried to purchase one. We need LAWS that require all mental health care professionals access to a database denying ownership to ANY mentally ill person. Gun don’t kill people correct? So let’s stick together and keep guns AWAY from those that should not own them. The response is going to be to ban assault weapons, which helps NO ONE. Federally required, waiting periods and background checks for ALL gun purchases. If we are going to make cars safer through technology, we can make guns safer. If we are going to require licensing to drive autos, we can require training and licensing to gun owners to possibly alleviate those waiting periods and background checks. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with gun collecting or crime or self defense. In the safest city in the USA who was Nancy Lanza protecting herself from? Her child? Then she was stupid for even allowing him in the house. The 2nd amendment was meant to maintain firearms parity with a tyrannous government, and we gave up that right LONG ago. Who has a tank or artillery piece in their garage? We have a right to own weapons. We have a choice to act responsibly. There IS a middle ground. To stand idly by while the next idiot is planning another massacre is irresponsible gun stewardship. To force people to arm themselves is irresponsible gun stewardship. If I write Obama, it will be to ensure we do a LOT more to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people. I hope you stand with me, because the alternative is to start banning guns. and THAT would be irresponsible gun stewardship.

  • Matt Wilson December 17, 2012, 5:30 pm

    If this kid blungeonded those kids with a hammer would you want to ban all hammers? GUNs DO NOT KILL! PEOPLE KILL!
    If youre looking for something to blame this trajedy on, blame the kid that pulled the trigger and all of the people in his family and freinds who knew he had a problem and did nothing about it.
    I beleive the issue with these incidents belongs to the degrading of our society’s moral fiber. We allow homosexuals to merry and call it sexual preference instead of what it is! a deviant behavior choice. pedifiles have a sexual preference too. It sexually abusing children. We have more broken, single parrent, and broken homes are turning our society into a melting pot of perverts and mentally unbalanced people who do not have any reguard for humanity or respect for the law. creating more gun laws will not fix this issue. There is no instant coffe answer the issue of violence in our nation.
    We teach our kids that one man having sex with another is O.K. but beleiving in God is wrong. This is where our nation has become a nation of perverted beleifs and imoral principles.

  • Donnie December 17, 2012, 5:32 pm

    I am 61 years old and have been a gun owner most of my life. I respect the constitution but when tragedy occures the answer is not to change the constitution or it would not stand for what our fore fathers believe is our constitutional rights. What happened in Ct. was a tragedy especially for so many innocent children but I live in Virginia and we han our tragedy with 32 innocent people were killed. We need to establish better mental health guide lines and get those sick people help before its to late. I agree we need stricter laws on assault weapons but don’t penalize law abiding citizens.

  • Frank December 17, 2012, 5:39 pm

    While I do agree with you Joel on assult weapons… It has nothing to do with an individual to own a firearm whether he/she served this country. It is a constitutional right just like all the others that were written, yet no one disagrees with any others and you were not there to bare witness to what the second amendment actually meant, nor was I… It reads the right to bare arms. Their are women who target shoot, children of understanding the ability of target shooting and hunting that have been properly trained to do so including my very own who have been taught at a very young age the responsibility of guns and what they are capable of doing and most importantly safety.
    They know the safety of them, NOT to be around friends whose family may have one in sight and to leave a home immediately and report it , whether to me, my wife or the police. Naturally my wife or I would contact the police if they were unable too. I also agree with you as there are people who do not know how to actually be safe with guns as well as the fact that there are probably more innocent people killed by drunk drivers then there are with guns!! and they are licensed!
    Hunting with a rifle is a sport.. I’m not talking about an assult weapon either. I’m talking a plain ol’ rifle , just like the old days as you so put it, however with modern day rifles we do have them that are semi-automatic ( which is nothing wrong with in the same way we have pump and semi-automatic shotguns for bird hunting. ( ducks and geese for example)
    I’m not looking for a debate on this issue, it was tragic enough, all I am saying is that 1.. We don’t need assult weapons, soldiers do. 2. Criminals are going to get them anyway regardless of what any one person wants to disbelieve. I’m just as upset as you, but think about it…. If someone ( a criminal hell bent on perhaps killing you, your wife or you children in your home and you were properly trained in the use of a handgun, be it a revolver or a single shot rifle would you rather take the chance of defending your loved one with a weapon such as what I just mentioned or charge at him with a rolling pin in the kithen draw or a broom stick handle? Your choice… I know mine.

  • steve winters December 17, 2012, 5:51 pm

    go for it

  • S. Jewell December 17, 2012, 5:56 pm

    No one wants to diminish the profound impact that this tragedy has had on the entire country, but, as has been previously stated by others, new and more strict gun laws are simply not the way to stop this kind of heinous act.

    • Gerard Gales December 17, 2012, 7:03 pm

      Australia took specific measures to stop this sort of tragedy from unfolding and guess what? It worked. Look it up. None since the measures taken after the Port Arthur massacre. When was the last time there was a mass shooting in countries with strict gun control? Has this ever happened in Canada?

      By owning firearms I can, in no way, justify that every person should have that same right. If that means surrendering my right, then so be it. If there is a firearms buyback or surrender program instituted it will be my duty as an American to comply with my Democratically elected officials wishes and surrender them.

      As long as my children are safer and as long as I can go to a mall or a movie without being nervous or wear a hoodie at night in an uppity neighborhood I’ll be fine… that’s freedom. Being able to hunt deer and go to the range are things I can sacrifice. The 2nd Amendment was written at a time when serious foreign invasion threats existed (see: the War of 1812) as well as fear of Natives; it’s outdated. We have the strongest military on the planet and currently lead the world in gun ownership; sacrifices can be made.

      • Schmitty December 18, 2012, 4:58 pm

        GALES U R OBVIOUSLY AN UNEDUCATED PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS NOTHING OF THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION OR HOW THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED AND BECAME SO GREAT/ TAKING AWAY OUR GUNS ONLY ADS TO THE DECLINE OF THIS COUNTRY AND IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO R RUINING IT

  • Rogelio Billaber December 17, 2012, 6:08 pm

    Obama does not understand anything about our Constitution nor does he believes in it. He is not for the people but for himself and bigger power for the Government.

    • Gerard Gales December 17, 2012, 7:08 pm

      That must be why the Repubs are pushing so hard for impeachment…? If the garbage you just spewed held any water don’t you think Boehner (sp? Boner?) or Holder would keep mum about it? Educate yourself. The people you get this information from are radicals and charlatans pushing a personal agenda. Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck are such great Americans and know sooooo much about politics that they never bothered getting involved – just running their mouthes and collecting paychecks which dwarf what they’d receive as an elected official. Well, maybe not Beck, I’m pretty sure he’s completely derailed.

  • Yvonne Oliver December 17, 2012, 6:20 pm

    Dear Mr. President: It is my belief that guns did not make Adam Lanza take so many very innocent lives in Newtown. Guns are a means of eating meat–for us, and entertainment–target shooting. Never in our born lives would we ever even DREAM of shooting a human. Please take yourself out of the politics of this and use your tears to cry with America over this.

    Please do not take our guns.

    Sincerely,
    Yvonne Oliver

  • ken wilson December 17, 2012, 6:38 pm

    if people were allowed to carry i dont think he or others wouldnt be going to school with guns. let us all defend ourselves and others

  • dean smith December 17, 2012, 6:45 pm

    this shooting is tragic and i feel for all those affected, but lets think about this . a school is a weapon free zone (zero tolerance) for guns. a theater is a gun free zone a church is a gun free zone.all these places have had a mad person come in with a gun and start shooting, but you never hear this happen at a police department. do you? why not? get rid of these sign train teachers not all just some of them that don’t mind using a gun give them a fighting chance not only would this change the outcome but i think it would slow down or stop these action, remember the 60s or 70s i can remember when the parking lot at my high school during deer season had gun racks with guns hanging in them in the hunters pickups ready to go hunting after school and we never had this to happen,and now back to the theater in Denver i understand that some of the victims were x military men and if these guys had had a service 1911 colt you could bet there training would took over that would have been a different situation if you can trust them with serving our country i think you can trust them in theater with a conceal carry but i know our government they are going to try to take away our rights they punish everyone but the guilty with spiteful anti American policies and lets not let these elected officials use this tragic event as a diversion to sneak and screw all of us with the phis cal cliff

  • Jim Hensey December 17, 2012, 6:47 pm

    Criminals respect only one thing. FORCE. When a criminal robs you and rapes you and either kills you or shatters your nerves for the rest of your life you will realize the truth. People who want to take guns from the moral god loving law abiding public are the real threat.
    Look after your friends and neighbors and loved ones. Keep them safe. In the times to come you may be the only one who will stand up and help your neighborhood out with Security and food and water. Go to church and be an example of good for people to emulate.
    The Owl Is On The Shed

  • Alejandro Alonso December 17, 2012, 7:11 pm

    Mother Against Drunk Drivers don’t want people to stop driving or drinking. They want people to be responsible when they drive and when they drink. They want the PEOPLE made responsible for their actions. Let’s stop making the guns responsible and start making the people who wronly use them responsible.

  • John Morgan December 17, 2012, 7:24 pm

    And so it begins, the knee jerk reaction to some monster using a tool to commit horrible atrocities. “Ban the guns” will be the war cry for months now . I under stand the frustration but you don’t ban automobiles which kill even more Americans than guns The point is the problem is not the tool but the person wielding it, This should be an argument for better mental health care more than anything else!!

  • Roxanne Sasia December 17, 2012, 7:46 pm

    People kill people, not guns…gov’t needs to do something about all the drugs coming into this country. Lots of rat poison would do a whole lot of house cleaning.

  • Roxanne Sasia December 17, 2012, 7:48 pm

    Outlaw drugs not guns. Stop all the drugs coming into this country and you would see less people being shot by crazy people

  • Cody December 17, 2012, 7:50 pm

    What they need to change is gun safe zone they make it easy for nuts go in and shoot people.

  • Brad Winborg December 17, 2012, 7:53 pm

    Look at the war on drugs the government has spent Billions over the last twenty years and has done nothing but make drug lords and South American governments rich. It is the same with guns if you pass laws against guns two possibilities come to mind 1. Good people give up their guns and only the bad guys have weapons because their not going to obey the law. 2. The most like scenario is that you turn a large percentage of good law abiding people into criminals, because most people I know would rather take their chances with the government than put their families and themselves at the mercy of true criminals. It is time the government realize we have an constitutional and ethical right to protect our families.
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  • Bob Bayless December 17, 2012, 8:00 pm

    To punish the many for the acts of a few sounds like something from the Roman Empire. I would like to think that we have progressed in our civilization beyond thinking of that nature. I am a gun owner as was my father and his father, and his father.etc. I hunt, go kerplunking, skeet and trap shoot. I have books on guns as I also collect war rifles. Does having these make me dangerous? People I socialize with also have interests in guns, movies, playstation games, football,baseball,hockey,horses,hunting and fishing. We are the average person with many likes and dislikes. Are we to be punished because we also may like guns? Keeping guns out of the wrong hands should be your concern. Keeping them out of the hands of honest, law abiding AMERICANS is not the answer.

  • James Smith December 17, 2012, 8:04 pm

    This Sandy Elementary School shooting is definitely a tradgedy.
    Although I think it’s really sad that as soon as something like this
    happens people & mainly the media start talking about stiffening
    gun laws, but several people die each day in this country from
    people drinking & driving yet no one ever talks about shutting
    down happy hour, 2 for 1 drinks etc etc. I just don’t get it.

  • Joel Grady December 17, 2012, 8:24 pm

    Why did the mother of that 20 year old, whats his name, let her son have access to those firearms! Those weapons should have been secured, hidden and locked up tight! And this incident would have never happened. This goes back to the mother being Irresponsible!!!

  • Owen December 17, 2012, 8:28 pm

    First, the pain and sorrow that has resulted from this senseless tragedy has touched us all deeply. From gun owners and non-gun owners alike we wonder if there is an answer to preventing such events. Continuing to attack the innocent is not the answer. Punishing the many law abiding citizens for the acts of a few is not the answer. The answer I think lies in all of us. We as a society of thinking adults need to take responsibility for our own actions and show our young the rights and wrongs of this world.

    Guns, knives, ball bats, machetes and even the family automobile doesn’t automatically come alive and kill someone. They are just a tool that is there for the purpose of killing or harming our fellow human. There are many that wants to lash out at the first thing that in some cases satisfies their own agenda. The use of others sorrows and heartbreaks are a tool being used by some medias and individuals to reach their goals. One is attacking the second amendment rights of the citizens of the United States. Rights that many of generations have died to protect and continue to do so. It’s a shame that the agenda of the few will use this and other such events to reach their goal, but that is a right also. But, why did this happen.

    Back to adult responsibilities, taking the blame for what has occurred and will continue to occur if we as a society don’t change. The drug criminals from within and outside our borders use guns to protect their unlawful and very profitable drug distribution business here in the U.S. Just ask yourself why in the U.S.? I’ll tell you why, because the good citizens are the market. You want to stop the gun violence from across our borders and in other countries, then american give up your drug use. Say “NO” to drugs. You won’t do that, will you america? The so called adults will continue to use them and continue to teach their kids that it is acceptable. The “Don’t drive and drink” crowd, give up your beers and whiskey because you driving while drunk or under the influence of your drugs is no less that a potential killer with the family car. But we call it manslaughter, because you didn’t really mean to do it. The innocent is still dead and a family morns the loss of a loved one.

    Then there are the kids that we want so much to protect, but we let the gangs (bad guys) raise them for us. We do nothing to stand up to and stop the gangs in their tracks. We adults are just too scared to tell the police who the gang member is and the evil things each have done. So the killings continue either by gun, knife, auto or just beat to death with fists and feet. When is enough of gangs forming and taking our kids from us going to stop? When we responsible adults stand up and say “No More”. I’m not saying “No More” to the tools used, but to the evil/guilty ones in our society that are ruining it for the rest of us. The stars of the Hollywood and the sports, the more you show your A** and the more you cheat, divorce, get drunk, naked, the more the good citizens worship you and the richer you get. Frankly you should be banned from the acting or playing sports forever.

    The prisoner’s we have locked up we give them color TV, free medical, resorts to stay in (rich thieves), three meals a day, education, and you don’t have to work for it. All we ask in return is to be a good person when you get out, which won’t be long!

    Heck, I could go on and on with what is wrong and why this happened, but I think we all know why, but we the good citizens of these United States and our politicians will not admit it. We’ll continue to use the very evils that is slowly but surely driving us deeper and deeper into a nation of evil and sick people that has no respect for their fellow man. No it’s not the gun or any other tool used to kill, but the human behind it and their respect for or realization of right from wrong.

    Lastly, the second amendment has helped keep america free by deterring acts of war from within our borders. I can’t remember who said something to the effect that their country would attack America if it weren’t for there being a gun behind every door. In my opinion no additional laws against guns is going to prevent such tragedies as those that have occurred unless we as a society change from doing wrong to doing what is right. What country was it that had an attacker kill many kids in a school with a machete or knife.

  • Chuckie December 17, 2012, 8:30 pm

    Cars kill far more people every year than guns but I do not hear anyone crying for reform on car control! I feel for every family but I am not going to mix two sepreat issues! This guy killed his mother took her guns & killed people so he committed a crime to commit more crime. How can we as a country be against gun violence but yet we killed over a million Iraqis in that war! I don’t hear anyone crying about the needless loss of life committed by a countries govt in the name of war! STOP being biased!!! Life, every life should be protected at any & all cost- so until all countries give up their arms I sure as hell am not giving up mine!

  • Dave H December 17, 2012, 8:35 pm

    If our elected politions do not understand by now, that banning objects only creates a “Black Market” by which only criminals profit: (Remember Prohibition?); then we are through being a Republic governed through Democracy and the Constitution of the United States of America. If the USA signs off on the United Nations Agenda banning the private ownership of firearms, UN Soldiers would have no qualms about kicking in your door, confiscating your firearms, and taking you to a “Reeducation Facility”. We would be giving up our soverignty as a Nation and as a people united against tyranny. The Media uses these tragedys to bolster the “anti-gun” movement by sensationalizing gun violence and blaming the object instead of the mentally disturbed person who perpetrated the crime. Thank Congress for passing a law forbiding mentally disturbed/ill people from being committed to a psychriatic facility without their permission and making it illegal to force the mentally ill from taking court ordered medications. All of these violent acts were committed by mentally disturbed individuals, but does the Media focus on the lack of access to Mental Health Treatment? Of course not, it is not cost effective for the HMO’s whose bottom line is money, not people. We as a Nation have forgotten who is really in control, and that is GOD Almighty. We have forsaken Him; HE has not forsaken us.

  • fred young December 17, 2012, 8:41 pm

    Mr president: you do what you think is best we as a hold we cant stop you .
    But know as a hold we are watching an you all need our vote next time who ever it may be.
    The tragedy is bad by no means put dont lay it on every ones feet that owns
    a gun that in itself is going out an a way from what this country was build on from year one to today
    guns have an all ways been part of our right .

  • Jeff Hinkel December 17, 2012, 8:43 pm

    Stop the Control and start holding people accountable for their actions. With the advances in science, there is no reason to have a “reasonable and quick” punishment for you crime. You can’t stop mentally ill people for finding some way from guns, knives, hazardous materials, or even something as Gasoline to cause the harm that they are going to do. Banning guns is CRAZY. Think about this. There are approximately 350,000,000 guns owned by people in United States according to latest FBI statistics. If we started next month taking 1,000,000 a month, it would take over 29 years to get all guns off the streets. And then you would only get the guns that have been registered or volunteered surrendered. Gangs, criminal, and Mentally ill individuals would still have guns. President Obama, who is going to protect you. Maybe they can “talk” the crazed individual from pulling the trigger. Deal with issues that cause the violence and just the result of the violence.

  • Jim December 17, 2012, 9:06 pm

    I may as well add my comment. To start, I am 71 years of age and was raised in the South (Alabama). Firearms were a way of life for me. Target shooting and hunting. I had my first firearm at the age of 6. My father and uncles taught me the safety features of my 22 cal, 5 shot, clip fed. Winchester bolt action. I was also taught how to responsibly handle and use a gun. In that day and time (1947) parents were considered not fit to raise a child if discipline wasn’t provided to his child when needed. My father didn’t hesitate to adjust my attitude when it came to proper handling and use of a firearm. I have owned firearms for 55 years and not once have I misused it. But let a mentally deranged person go a rampage and the knee jerk reaction is to penalize all of the legal gun owners. I have an AR-15 that I bought in Maryland. I had to fill out the paperwork for a federal background check and Maryland paperwork for local investigation and then had to wait 10 days before I could actually take custody of the AR-15. I did not purchase this firearm to kill anyone. I bought it because I wanted it and I could finally afford one. Mine will be used to shoot at inanimate targets. I have 20 round clips and consider them a convenience since I want have to pause after 3 seconds to load a clip again. The rhetoric in regards to clip size is another knee jerk reaction.
    The Government is attempting to further restrict firearm availability to legal law abiding citizens. The focus should be directed to finding out what caused the total disrespect for human life that these mental cases have. I personally believe it can be attributed to removal of prayer from school, explicit violent killing video games, TV, Movies, and lack of discipline in the USA. The moral values of the country have been going down hill and has almost reached the bottom.

    I served 26 years in the U S Navy doing my part in protecting our constitution (as millions of current and previous veterans have done) and I believe the constitution should be left intact, especially the 2nd amendment. Our forefathers were more intelligent than our current crop of politicians. They knew that technology would advance and newer firearms would be available for the US citizen. This is the reason the particular firearm type isn’t spelled out. The 2nd amendment is intended to provide the legally armed American citizenry with the ability to protect himself/herself, family, property, and If necessary to band together with other legal gun owners to protect our country from domestic and foreign enemies. I for one intend to keep my firearms and use them responsibly.

  • Eddie Rogers December 17, 2012, 9:12 pm

    Have had guns since I was a child and not one of them have never hurt anyone… Please enforce the gun laws we have and stop making it harder for legal responeable gun owners like myself to enjoy shooting and the right to have and bear arms for our and our loved ones protection… Thank You

  • David Silliman December 17, 2012, 9:21 pm

    Please don’t take a social mental health issue and turn it in to a gun issue. There are many many more important and pertinent issues to focus on. Like employment (higher employment rates mean less crime done by otherwise good people out of desperation) and social mental health which is of course affected by stress. Stress = the culprit that causes society to malfunction. Deal with the major stresses our nation and world are facing/fighting and watch how it irons itself out. “He who governs best governs least.”

  • Charles Ortiz December 17, 2012, 9:24 pm

    Unfurtanately the gun control laws will be respected by responsible peoples. The ones who not follow the law will keep buying and selling guns in this contry with no remorse of what happens with them. And sick peoples will find the way to harm others in any other way possible, with or without guns. Gun control will not solve the problem here.

  • Thomas Wyman December 17, 2012, 9:48 pm

    We need to arm the teachers and all the other staff in the schools. We need to do away with gun free zones so that the criminals do not have easy prey, which will eliminate many of the shootings because the people are cowards that do this.

  • Billy Huckabee December 17, 2012, 10:45 pm

    BO doesn’t care about our childern. He read a speach written by one of his cronies. He pretended to be upset and pretended to be a Christian and read scripture from the speach written by someone else. Have you ever seen or had tears run from the outer corners of your eyes without a stream running from the inside corners? He wiped tears from the outside corners and never a drop from the inside. He says anything the public wants to hear and does the opposite. His plan is to confiscate all America’s guns!

  • Gerald Friesen December 17, 2012, 10:50 pm

    The constitution say that we have the right to bear arms. Let’s keep it.

  • Glen December 17, 2012, 10:54 pm

    It is a sad day however it wasn’t the guns that killed those inocent children that day, it was the man behind the gun. Should we ban air craft because some idoits who flew the plans into the federal buiding. So do we ban natural disasters as they are acts of god but yet we are also gods creations and people as well.

  • ghitt December 17, 2012, 11:17 pm

    It is very tragic what happen and it should not. Not the gun’s fault but the person as always. if a law needs to passed then do it smart . Like NO chambered weapon in a school zone period.And hold a person accountable and then some. But what is going on about banning is not the answer Where was the outrage , the tears when our Border Agent was killed , and over 180 plus Mexicans citizens killed by guns that US government personnel ran to known drugs cartel members under this president’s watch . Did he visit them or even give one simple I am sorry , we will get those responsible , even shed one single tear to any of the 180 plus family members..Or the 4 US security personnel and a US AMBASSADOR killed Some family members said he could not even look some them in the eyes . And still no answers [truth] just lies and In all before mentioned events not one single tear . I always wondered why he has more actors visit him than heads of state, or people that could make a positive change , they must have been giving him acting lessons. Like that Noble Peace that was GIVEN to him i guess now he wants an Oscar GIVEN to him . ALL VERY SAD INDEED.

  • Stephen Crow December 17, 2012, 11:22 pm

    Guns do not kill people. People kill people. Take guns away from the good guys and only the bad guys will have guns. The world has listened to these old adages many times and no longer pays any attention to them. So now Americans must pay attention to another saying. The first act of the rise of tyranny, the rise of a totalitarian state is to ban private ownership of weapons. The second act is for the government to take control of the media. This second act has already taken place.
    How does anyone comfort those dear families who have lost children and loved ones to the malicious evil desires of a murderer? It can’t be done. No words said by anyone will ever take away the pain of those precious families who suffered a loss at Sandy Hook. But do not forget all of the other families who have had huge pieces of their hearts torn out by the senseless slaughter and shedding of innocent blood.
    Do you honestly believe, deep in your own mind, that if Adam Lanza had not had a gun that he would not have killed anyone? He was sick with blood lust. He would have killed no matter what weapons he had to use! And if he had used an explosive no one in the Sandy Hook school would have survived!
    Here is a law the will work! When one family member kills someone then the his or her family is punished, especially when the weapons used are registered to the mother! Parents MUST BE HELD responsible for the actions of their children! No matter how much whining liberal politicians scream that such a thing will not work! Do not leave gun control up to the government! It is your responsibly! Leave it up to the liberals and they will take away our guns. Then America is a free for all, up for grabs to any idiot who owns an illegal gun. And there will be many many hundreds of thousands of those roaming the streets. When the law abiding man has no gun to defend himself or his family from the murderer who does have a gun, the murderer will always win. Then count how many children are slaughtered in this country every day! There will be a new Sandy Hook on your television news broadcast every morning!
    American voters have placed the responsibility of child raising in the hands of the government. So how does the government teach your child not to play with guns? It takes the guns away from all other Americans. How logical! See what happens when you refuse to be responsible for the actions of your children?
    The liberal says, the gun did it, punish the gun. The poor little murderer was insane. He couldn’t help himself. So why not take away the cars of the drunk drives who run down innocent people, who slaughter many hundreds of children each year simply because they had to have a drink. If guns kill people then cars also kill people. So ban cars and stop all of the deaths caused by drunk drivers.
    Pot smoking engineers on trains and dope sniffing captains of ships murder thousands of people, to say nothing of the irreversible damage done to the environment by their stupidity. So next the liberals ban trains and ships. That mean old train just ran down that school bus full of children and should be punished!
    As soon as we clean up the mess at the railroad tracks then a bus driver slaughters another bus full of school children by being drunk or drugged out of his or her head while driving. So the government begins to scream how we need more laws to keep the drugs and alcohol out of the reach of the bus drivers. The drugs and the alcohol did it. The bus driver is innocent. He had a fight with his wife the night before and he was so upset that day. He just had to get drunk and take the children away from fifty families to unwind.
    If you will watch the reality shows on your television and take a close look at what kind of weapons are being used by thieves and robbers of convenience stores you will see that a gun is used least of all, in only one in ten robberies. The rest of these holdups are done with pipes, knives, hammers, bats, screwdrivers and even snakes! So now the liberals must come together and devise a plan to ban all pipes, knives, hammers, bats, screwdrivers and snakes from being privately owned.
    It all sounds very foolish doesn’t it? That is because it is foolish! Our leaders, the ones WE PUT IN OFFICE, are convinced that you punish the hammer when it is used by a psychotic killer. That mean old hammer. The poor murderer was spanked too much by his mother when he was a child. Lets put him in observation for six months and study him and see what makes him tick. The turn him loose so we can remain in observance of his rights so he can go out there and murder again!
    How can the grief of the families of lost loved ones at Sandy Hook ever be consoled? What can any of us do to help them with this mind bending and heart rending hole in their lives where the low life of a murderer decided to take his pound of flesh from innocent babies?
    Do you punish the pistols? Remember, it was the bullets that actually killed. So next we punish the ammunition. Punish the killer? Heavens no! He’s insane. Can’t punish insanity. Our law only permits us to punish all of those who are one hundred percent sane. Sanity does not slaughter little children. INSANITY DOES! So be sure to elect more liberals who can pass more laws to protect the insane murders!
    So how do you punish the killer who kills himself at the scene of the crime? Of course we can’t punish him, but we can sure as hell punish anyone who emulates him. Elect NON liberals into office, people who pass laws to punish evil and not give it sanctuary in the federal system of liberalism.
    Our forefathers used public executions to make an example of murderers. How drastic and how primitive to do such a thing today, you say. But you fail to recall that it is those same forefathers you laud every day of your life, you set on a pedestal and teach your children to worship them for being so cleaver and cunning to be able to establish a whole new nation called America! Those same forefathers hung murderers, shot them, burned them at the stake, beheaded them and done all of this in total view of the public! Did they stop murder? Not at all, but do some digging, do some research and find out how many Sandy Hook’s there were in the days of our forefathers! Very, very few! So few, in fact, that history almost totally ignores them for their tiny number.
    Ban guns and people will use knives, poison gas, explosives, hammers, bats and anything else they can use to bash the brains out of someone else. So ban everything that kills and then begin to ban rocks and sticks for they are also lethal weapons just as capable of taking a life as any gun.
    Take away the guns and see how soon the American people fall victim to evil law enforcement officers, greedy land grabbers and power mad politicians who want it all at any cost of human life!
    It is the private ownership of guns that keeps a nations leaders, law enforcement agencies and general public respectful of others. Guns do not make people like each other but they sure as hell make people leave each other alone. Take away the guns and the American house hold will be overrun with knife and pipe wielding gangs murdering at will.
    The poor little murderer. The liberal says he or she is turned into a blood letter by society, by his environment, by his mean old parents. But what does your bible says about the murderer? What does God say about evil?

    Psalm 58:3
    “The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.”

    Psalm 58:3

    Seeing such words in your bible will quickly tell you the reason why your government has been so hell bent and so successful at banning the bible and erasing God’s presence from the public eye!
    Do you take away guns from the law abiding citizen to stop crime? Or do you arm the law abiding citizen and allow him to protect himself from the evil people of this world that our government says are innocent, that is is the guns they use that are to blame.
    Stop protecting evil, sheltering insanity, and allowing liberal politicians to punish inanimate objects for crime! How can a knife know what it is doing when it stabs into a human body? How can a gun plan the slaughter of an innocent child? It is the evil human mind that is to blame, born evil from the womb, born to kill, hunt, punish and maim the world for no other reason than to satisfy some perverted and personal blood lust. Politicians say the knife and the gun do know what they are doing. What do you say?

  • sam thomas December 17, 2012, 11:23 pm

    We have a law banning guns from schools all it has done is disarm educators from protecting innocent children. If an educator throws their body against a door to hold a person with a gun out dont you think that if that educator had a gun they would have used it to protect those children whom they dedicate their lives to? As an educator I can tell you any good educator would hope that they would never have to use a gun to protect but would much rather have one and not need it, than not have one and need it.
    To you folks who are willing to pay extra taxes to pay for an armed guard to guard schools are well intended, but unrealistic to several basic facts. 1. educators armed and trained will be a whole lot more effective in stopping an attack than one or two guys running around with guns on doing the same- simply one person can only be in one place at the same time and again educators who spend all their time teaching- nuturing- mentoring students all day long will have a greater passion for protecting those children than someone who is not vested in the children as much. Multiple people who may or may not be armed causes the attacker great nervousness because they dont know who will come at them from where. 2. the cost of paying armed guards for every school would be enormous and totally unrealistic considering the huge debt that our country is in, many cities, are and some school systems. the National debt is equvivalent to approx $52,000 for every man, woman and child in the USA.
    As mentioned in multiple places in this blog that guns dont kill people, people kill people, and guns are by far not the most deadly weapon out there. the Automobile is far more deadly. More people are killed in one week in traffic accidents in the United States than all the mass shootings combined (in the USA)outside of war. when you look at all fatalities of US citizens caused by war starting at the Revolutionary war to the present (including any occupations that wasnt declared an official war) and compare it to the traffic fatalities from 1900 to the present you will see that there is somewhere around twice as many traffic fatalities as combat and combat related fatalities. So why are so many so intent on trying to destroy our second amendment right under the guise of how deadly the gun is. If they are truly concerned about reducing deaths enforcing laws that would reduce traffic accidents is where their focus should be.
    The old adage of “when you outlaw guns then only outlaw will have guns” the 2nd amendment was created so that the people could stop tyranny if it should try to occur. Crime will always be less around law abiding gun holding citizens than citizens that dont have guns. When you look at the areas where guns have been banned city officials have armed guards and crime rates are up.
    I cannot help but truly believe the politicians that are working for gun ban laws, are wanting more power and to subject the citizens to their whims, that or they are just plain stupid and misled.
    As a citizen of the USA I should have the right to purchase any gun that is accessible to the military. this is the right of the 2nd amendment so that citizens of the USA can rise up against tyranny if it should present and try to subject US citizens to it. In saying this with this right comes great responsiblity to not misuse that right to infringe upon the right of any other law abiding citizen, and if any one should misue this right the consequences should be swift, severe and made known to the public. Part of our problem with mass killings is the media coverage and slow court processess that keep a perpetuator in limbo and attorneys perverting our laws. A fair and quick trial means that justice will be served. I know many will cry “fighting violence with violence is not the answer”
    Well when a murderer is executed that is called justice and when it is done methodically and quickly and televised, others who may think there is glory in being a whacko with a gun may think twice. Yes taking a life is a horrible thing- but those who go out and do it intentionaly should be subjected to the old adage “let the punishment fit the crime”. bleeding hearts are unrealistic in their expectations and saying “killing one doesnt bring any one back” No it doesnt but it does act as a deterrent to others who may consider killing someone. Equity and justice is the only thing that can long maintain order amongs good human beings.
    Someday when the Savior returns and rules the world, then we can live by a more perfect law, but until then not meting out justices with equity and swiftly only deteriorates civilization.

  • Sherri December 17, 2012, 11:32 pm

    My heart truely goes out to those who lost there loved ones on December 14th 2012 and any other day that an occurance such as this has happened! However it is not the fault of the guns but the one who is holding the gun. The media and our goverment is taking our rights away as americans last time I checked we lived in a free country! Well we no longer do! Our military is not big enough to protect all americans on american soil if we were ever attacked oh wait we already where and the goverment knew of this as they no every thing! So since they know everything then none of the events that have taken place should have happened! Up until this year i never even shot a gun but I am glad to have learned so I can protect myself and others when the day comes that we as americans will have to protect our selves from attack! Just remeber our goverment will not protect us so we will need to protect our selves! The perosn who took those inocent lives that day and his own he is the one at fault NOT THE GUNS! Guns don’t kill people people kill people! He could have used other means that day that however that what he had access to. The media and our goverment our to blame for these sensless crimes maybe the old saying goes less said the better off we would be! How about all the movies that people are getting rich off of by selling there stories to local medias like lifetime how do you think these stupid dumbass people get these ideas?????????? We should feel sorry for him as he had issues well who doesn’t have issues? We need to put blame were blame is due! The one who holds any weapons is at fault not the weapon it self!

  • glen December 17, 2012, 11:36 pm

    I truely feel sorry for those who have lost all there loved ones on that day and any other day that such an incodence has taken place! Just remember one thing people kill people not guns! Who will protect americans on the day we face attack and the goverment has taken our guns away? Just remember were are military is today and the next day how long do you think it will take the military to get here? As the military is not big enough to protect every american and neither is the police force!

  • Stephen Crow December 18, 2012, 12:23 am

    Do you honestly believe, deep in your own mind, that if Adam Lanza had not had a gun that he would not have killed anyone? He was sick with blood lust. He would have killed no matter what weapons he had to use! And if he had used an explosive no one in the Sandy Hook school would have survived!
    Here is a law the will work! When one family member kills someone then the his or her family is punished, especially when the weapons used are registered to the mother! Parents MUST BE HELD responsible for the actions of their children! No matter how much whining liberal politicians scream that such a thing will not work! Do not leave gun control up to the government! It is your responsibly! Leave it up to the liberals and they will take away our guns. Then America is a free for all, up for grabs to any idiot who owns an illegal gun. And there will be many many hundreds of thousands of those roaming the streets. When the law abiding man has no gun to defend himself or his family from the murderer who does have a gun, the murderer will always win.
    American voters have placed the responsibility of child raising in the hands of the government. So how does the government teach your child not to play with guns? It takes the guns away from all other Americans.
    The liberal says, the gun did it, punish the gun. The poor little murderer was insane. He couldn’t help himself. So why not take away the cars of the drunk drives who run down innocent people, who slaughter many hundreds of children each year simply because they had to have a drink.
    Pot smoking engineers on trains and dope sniffing captains of ships murder thousands of people, to say nothing of the irreversible damage done to the environment by their stupidity. So next the liberals ban trains and ships. That mean old train just ran down that school bus full of children and should be punished!
    As soon as we clean up the mess at the railroad tracks then a bus driver slaughters another bus full of school children by being drunk or drugged out of his or her head while driving. The drugs and the alcohol did it. The bus driver is innocent. He had a fight with his wife the night before and he was so upset that day. He just had to get drunk and take the children away from fifty families to unwind.
    If you will watch the reality shows on your television and take a close look at what kind of weapons are being used by thieves and robbers of convenience stores you will see that a gun is used least of all, in only one in ten robberies. The rest of these holdups are done with pipes, knives, hammers, bats, screwdrivers and even snakes! So now the liberals must come together and devise a plan to ban all pipes, knives, hammers, bats, screwdrivers and snakes from being privately owned.
    How can the grief of the families of lost loved ones at Sandy Hook ever be consoled? What can any of us do or say to help them with this mind bending and heart rending hole in their lives, left there by a murderer who decided to take his pound of flesh from innocent babies?
    Remember, it was the bullets that actually killed. So next we punish the ammunition. Punish the killer? Heavens no! He’s insane. Can’t punish insanity. Our law only permits us to punish all of those who are one hundred percent sane. Sanity does not slaughter little children. INSANITY DOES!
    So how do you punish the killer who kills himself at the scene of the crime? Of course we can’t punish him, but we can sure as hell punish anyone who emulates him. Elect people into office who pass laws to punish evil and not give it sanctuary in the “system.” If Adam Lanza would have lived and been caught he would never have seen a day in jail. He had to be studied and analyzed. He was insane.
    Our forefathers used public executions to make an example of murderers. How drastic and how primitive to do such a thing today, you say. But you fail to recall that it is those same forefathers you laud every day of your life, you set on a pedestal and teach your children to worship them for being so cleaver and cunning to be able to establish a whole new nation called America! Those same forefathers hung murderers, shot them, burned them at the stake, beheaded them and done all of this in total view of the public! Did they stop murder? Not at all, but do some digging, do some research and find out how many Sandy Hook’s there were in the days of our forefathers! Very, very few! So few, in fact, that history almost totally ignores them for their tiny number.
    Ban guns and people will use knives, poison gas, explosives, hammers, bats and anything else they can use to bash the brains out of someone else. So ban everything that kills and then begin to ban rocks and sticks for they are also lethal weapons just as capable of taking a life as any gun.
    Take away the guns and see how soon the American people fall victim to evil law enforcement officers, greedy land grabbers and power mad politicians who want it all at any cost of human life!
    It is the private ownership of guns that keeps a nations leaders, law enforcement agencies and general public respectful of others. Guns do not make people like each other but they sure as hell make people leave each other alone. Take away the guns and the American house hold will be overrun with knife and pipe wielding gangs murdering at will.
    Are the killers really the product of their surroundings? What does your bible say about this subject?

    “The wicked are estranged( without morals ) from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.”
    Psalm 58:3

    Seeing such words in your bible will quickly tell you the reason why your government has been so hell bent and so successful at banning the bible and erasing God’s presence from the public eye!
    Stop protecting evil, sheltering insanity, and allowing liberal politicians to punish inanimate objects for crime! Politicians say the knife and the gun do know what they are doing. What do you say?

  • John Rotter December 18, 2012, 12:40 am

    Al the killings of innocent people by whatever weapon they use is chilling and quite unacceptable. We need to beefup security at schools and where crowds usually are gathered. Gun bans are total failures and not a good idea. Gun control hits law abiding citizens more than anyone, which makes these crimes easier for the bad guy to commit. Take Washington, DC for an example with very high gun control and very high murders per capita.
    The answer is to recruit law abiding citizens of very good background to volunteer for very extensive training to deal with these threats in not only schools to protect our children but other places as needed and to receive proper instruction and licensing to handle firearms and use them to remove the potential threat quickly.
    These terrorists are cowards and not brave when there might be a danger for them to carry out their mission and usually take their lives because they are cowards to face justice. A lot of volunteers could be found and help to reduce this problem dramatically. John

  • NORM December 18, 2012, 1:06 am

    I am 62 years old, retired military, and a retired deputy sheriff, I have yet to see a firearm kill anyone without a human hand attached to it. New gun laws and changing the constitution will not stop terrrible things from happening. The way to prevent these terrible incidents, are not to punish law biding citizens by changing laws, restricting ownerships, or removing rights. It’s very simple (PUT SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS) police or sheriff deputies at the schools! We have them in Florida, what we don’t have are school shootings… It’s caled “VISABLE PRESENCE” a long time police deterent and it works pretty damn good!

  • Stephen Crow December 18, 2012, 1:13 am

    Do you honestly believe, deep in your own mind, that if Adam Lanza had not had a gun that he would not have killed anyone? He was sick with blood lust. He would have killed no matter what weapons he had to use! And if he had used an explosive no one in the Sandy Hook school would have survived!
    Here is a law the will work! When one family member kills someone then the his or her family is punished, especially when the weapons used are registered to the mother! Parents MUST BE HELD responsible for the actions of their children! No matter how much whining liberal politicians scream that such a thing will not work! Do not leave gun control up to the government! It is your responsibly! Leave it up to the liberals and they will take away our guns. Then America is a free for all, up for grabs to any idiot who owns an illegal gun. And there will be many many hundreds of thousands of those roaming the streets. When the law abiding man has no gun to defend himself or his family from the murderer who has an illegal gun, the murderer will always win.
    American voters have placed the responsibility of child raising in the hands of the government. So how does the government teach your child not to play with guns? It takes the guns away from all other Americans. So why not take away the cars of the drunk drives who run down innocent people? The car did it!
    Pot smoking engineers on trains and dope sniffing captains of ships murder thousands of people, to say nothing of the irreversible damage done to the environment by their stupidity. So next the liberals ban trains and ships. That mean old train just ran down that school bus full of children and should be punished!
    As soon as we clean up the mess at the railroad tracks then a bus driver slaughters another bus full of school children by being drunk or drugged out of his or her head while driving. The drugs and the alcohol did it. The bus driver is innocent. He had a fight with his wife the night before and he was so upset that day. He just had to get drunk and take the children away from fifty families to unwind.
    If you will watch the reality shows on your television and take a close look at what kind of weapons are being used by thieves and robbers of convenience stores you will see that a gun is used least of all, in only one in ten robberies. The rest of these holdups are done with pipes, knives, hammers, bats, screwdrivers and even snakes! So now the liberals must come together and devise a plan to ban all pipes, knives, hammers, bats, screwdrivers and snakes from being privately owned.
    How can the grief of the families of lost loved ones at Sandy Hook ever be consoled? What can any of us do or say to help them with this mind bending and heart rending hole in their lives, left there by a murderer who decided to take his pound of flesh from innocent babies
    Remember, it was the bullets that actually killed, not the gun. So next we punish the ammunition!
    So how do you punish the killer who kills himself at the scene of the crime? Of course we can’t punish him, but we can sure punish anyone who emulates him. Elect people into office who pass laws to punish evil and not give it sanctuary in the “system.” If Adam Lanza would have lived and been caught he would never have seen a day in jail. He had to be studied and analyzed. He was insane.
    Ban guns and people will use knives, poison gas, explosives, hammers, bats and anything else they can use to bash the brains out of someone else. So ban everything that kills and then begin to ban rocks and sticks for they are also lethal weapons just as capable of taking a life as any gun.
    It is the private ownership of guns that keeps a nations leaders, law enforcement agencies and general public respectful of others. Guns do not make people like each other but they will make people leave each other alone. Take away the guns and the American house hold will be overrun with knife and pipe wielding gangs murdering at will.
    Stop protecting evil, sheltering insanity, and allowing liberal politicians to punish inanimate objects for crime! Say no to banning firearms in the United States!

  • Dave December 18, 2012, 3:34 am

    Notice: most mass shootings happen in gun free zones! Duh, Mass shooters are generally psycho-cowards, Really pissed off ASSHOLES(Disgruntled) and/or manchurian canidates (If you believe in conspiracy theory) on a ((low risk of resistance mission)). (i.e., unexpecting, Helpless & unarmed).

    None the less, if for example; someone goes to a public gathering (Oh lets say, a movie theater, Mall, Church, sporting event, school, post office or other public venue, attended by several WELL TRAINED, WELL ARMED, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS) and starts shooting; and then, immediatley, SEVERAL people simultanioulsy begin to return fire.

    I dont care what kind of body armor they have, down they’ll go—-

    oh! ps; they probably would not have chosen that particular venue to begin with. Hmmmmmm.
    WELL TRAINED, WELL ARMED CITIZENS, LAW ABIDING TOWN FOLKS ARE THE BEST CRIME DETERENT………..

    For example:(and not limited to the following)
    1. Check the record on Israel’s response to school bus bombings and other TERRORISTIIC activity.–When Citizens Empowered, incidents decrease dramitically.
    2. Towns in the USA mandating gun ownership–have very low crime rates.
    CRIMINALS, for the most part look for the path of least resistance.

    3. In USA’s western history well armed town folks faired far better than those who were unarmed.

    Police are great, but as a rule they are mostly, well, after the fact.

    TAKE NOTE: Most of the politicians that wish to limit your right to bear arms, Have us pay for armed security for themselvs. Is the same as being an armed citizen – is it not?

    We need to stop all the pussified reactive response to such heinous crime and support proactive Pshyo/Health Care and responsible immediate response by: WELL TRAINED, WELL ARMED, LAW ABIDING TOWN FOLKS.
    “THE EMPOWERED CITIZEN”.

    Ever hear the theory that if Deer could shoot back there would be far less hunters………..Dave OUT……..

  • Shane December 18, 2012, 4:22 am

    Shane December 18, 2012 at 4:07 am
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    TROOPS 4 SAFE SCHOOLS <<<<< Let's Make It Happen!

    I'm really pleased that some folks like the idea of hiring former service men and women for school security. I'm especially happy that quite a few gun owners and Second Amendment supporters are willing to pay a small ammunition tax to support a program that could…

    1– greatly improve school security;
    2– provide jobs for returning servicemen and women; and
    3– demonstrate we are compassionate citizens who are committed to the strengthening of school security.

    I haven't heard anyone on the outside promoting this idea. I haven't found any similar discussions online. So maybe it's up to US to organize and present a proposal to the public and elected officials. We can do that! We can talk it out, think it through, write a proposal, gather signatures from other gun owners, and then mail it to anyone who might read it.

    Does it make sense to create a semi-private online forum where we can develop the idea further before trying to take it to people who might listen?

    My thinking is that we need to focus this discussion and try to figure out a few more details about how this might work. We need a place to talk without being distracted by naysayers and detractors.

    Please email if you have any interest in participating. If you want me to start a private forum where we can meet and discuss, please let me know, and I will reply to your email with the forum address (yet to be set up). Better yet, if you are familiar with creating and running discussion forums, maybe you would want to do this for us. I have no experience running forums, but, if need be, I'll learn.

    I look forward to hearing from you. How great it would feel to get off of the sidelines and try to do something for the our troops, our young people, and the Second Amendment!

    – Shane
    grackle4689@yahoo.com

  • Lee Parker December 18, 2012, 6:46 am

    Dear Mr. President & America,

    I mourn with you & with all of the United States’ citizens at the horror in Newtown, CT committed by Mr. Lanza. As a long time firearms owner, I understand that mistakes have consequences. Just the same, all of us know in our hearts that the will to do evil is an individual choice, and a wrong one. Couldn’t the evil act in Newtown been prevented, had the school guards been properly trained and equipped with firearms? Why were the firearms not properly stored in a gun safe, as Connecticut requires? It is my hope that these evils cease. Responsible and compassionate gun owners are neither monsters nor murderers, and our ranks far outweigh those evil doers. I have myself, because I was armed, survived a mugging unharmed. Respectfully, Lee A. Parker

  • B Love December 18, 2012, 7:12 am

    First, and foremost I am like so many others very sadden by the lost of so many innocent lives; Second I feel sorry for the gunman’s family because the one’s that are left will have have to live with and through the tragic events that their family member decided to create! They are the ones that will have to wonder what and if anything could have been done to at least try an prevent such a thing; They are one’s left in which the whole world is expecting some logical answer from; last but not least what will more gun laws do for legal gun owners? What about those who have illegal guns? Legal gun owners must go through a background check; There is a waiting period before you can actually bring your firearm into your house; Legal gun owners must now take training classes to learn how to shoot their weapons responsibly; Legal gun owners must register their firearms with their local police departments etc; Illegal gunowners don’t have a foid card; Illegal gun owners don’t undergo a background check(9 out 10 they have a long criminal histories); Illegal gun owners don’t have to paricipate in the waiting period nor do they go to gun training classes; Nor do they register their firearms with their local police departments; Most importantly, they don’t go into a legally operated gun shop to purchase their firearms; Illegal gun owners are not breaking into your house to sit down and drink a cup of coffee; or ask your mother or sister out on a date with a gun to their head raping them; Illegal gun owners are not going to ask you can they have a ride in your car, while they carjacking you at gun point; Nor are illegal gun owners going to ask you nicely while the are commiting strong arm robbery on you! The issue of more control will do nothing for those indivduals that have illegal firearms! It will put more laws into place for legal gun owners! Concerning the events that unfolded in Newtown; I can’t help but wonder if the mother had her guns locked in a secure gun safe! It appears even if she did her son was aware of where each firearm was being kept in the home! And what I am about to say I know many will probably not agree but I will write it anyway: This is not meant to shame the mother in anyway but; If you knew or was aware that your child had some sort of problem why introduce him to guns in the first place, there are so many other positive activities that she could have tried introducing him to(Not Saying That She Didn’t); Secondly; This youngman appeared to have some type of hatered toward his mother, to shoot your own mother in the head four times is not an accident;taking time to destroy your computer; taking the time to put on a bullet proof vest; making the choice to get into your mother’s car and drive to the school for the sole purpose of taking others lives without a second thought; This person made a decision to take the lives of his mother, as well as the lives of innocent children and his own life; We as a society may never know the answer to all the why’s, But I truly believe that responsible gun owners should not be held responsible for someone elses reckless decison.

  • Jim December 18, 2012, 8:19 am

    I gun is a tool, just like a car, if people want to look at the innocent people killed by these tools look at drunk drivers and repeal prohibition, that won’t happen because the government makes way to much money on the liquor tax and liscense, and would surely lose their high paying political job with all the kick backs to go with it. My heart breaks and I have wept over the death of those innocent children, but it was because a disturbed young person that pulled the children. May God take them into heaven and show them love and take the other some bitch and let him burn in the fires of hell.

  • David Giampietro December 18, 2012, 8:36 am

    I believe that if we started to enforce existing laws instead of adding new ones it would be a big step in reaching the desired goal of everyone. More laws just make it tougher if not impossible for law abiding citizens to enjoy their sport. Who are we deceiving by spewing out information that by limiting private citizens from owning firearms the criminal element would also be deprived. We talk about how many private firearms there are but ignore the fact that the largest stockpile of weapons are owned by the government (police/military). These institutions always seem to be misplacing their weapons and they keep turning up in the hands of the wrong element.As long as firearms exist anywhere on the planet the bad guys will have easy access. I think that we ban coccaine and heroine but they are very common in all of the US with easy access. The only people that will be disarmed with more laws for firearms will be the honest law abiding citizens of our country. Don’t we trust those people or does our government think we are untrust worthy. Maybe the next thing to be eliminated is our right to vote because we are not trusted as a whole to make the right decision.

  • Johnnie J Maloy December 18, 2012, 8:49 am

    Gun control does not keep guns or weapons out of the hands of the unstable. Johnnie

  • tom December 18, 2012, 8:49 am

    How come non of our political leaders are talking about all of the very violent video games out there. Oh I know they are protected by the Free speech amendment. Including all of the foul language that is on them. May be if we would get back to moral living it would help.

  • Johnnie J Maloy December 18, 2012, 8:58 am

    Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered.
    Johnnie

  • Cody December 18, 2012, 9:10 am

    Ok so Obama wants to put gun control in place n take the very thing that law abiding citizens use to protect them selves from who ever wants to take them by force so say in our 2nd amendment . The gun control act will force the law abiding citizen to lay down there arm n allow the unlawful abiding citizens to come in to your house and take over as they please . So I ask this to our government if you place a banned on guns and force the American people to lay down our arms will you force our milartey , secret service , personal body gards, or the police to do the same ? If not I will not lay down my arms n hope the American people do the same

    Respectfully Cody stansbury

  • Jerome Kline-Senoia, GA December 18, 2012, 9:17 am

    Obama is stuck on disarming everyone, one way or the other, so he can more easily take over as the dictator
    he wants to be. SOMEONE HAS TO PUT A STOP TO HIM AND HIS HENCHMEN/HENCHWOMEN.

    The only reason the enimies have not invaded this Nation, is because of 60 mmillion armed citizens/hunters/patriots.

  • william hilinski December 18, 2012, 9:19 am

    Legal people that carry firearms are not are problem in America it people that are criminals that are the problem they will always be if you take guns away they will use something else to kill or hurt so don’t take rights from good law abiding gun owners because that will only make thing worse

  • Gerald Holliday December 18, 2012, 9:19 am

    If we let them take our guns, what will they take next!
    Wake up Americans!’

  • Mark Owen December 18, 2012, 9:19 am

    Think!!!What if one of the people in the school had been armed and stopped the maniac at the door. He or she would have been prosecuted for bringing a gun to school. We have to make certain concessions for our schools to be safe. How Lanza got the weapons is not the big question, what made him do it is, you can see by his photo that he wasn’t too tightly wrapped. Gun control is not the answer, mind control isn’t either. This debate is going to make people realise we have a problem in this country, I have 5 grandkids 3 who are about the same age as the children in the school, I would do anything to protect them, and you would too!

  • Michael Hodgson December 18, 2012, 9:21 am

    The Government is not my big brother. Gun control does not work. All it does is put guns in the hands of those that will do harm and in turn take protection away from the law abiding citizen. Keep your hands off my right to protect myself and family.

  • TS.Atomic December 18, 2012, 9:25 am

    Signing one of those “White House Petitions” seems a bit silly, especially when a bit further down the list was a petition to, “Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016″. So, any idiot can create one of those petitions. Having said that, every little bit helps even if it may seem silly at first. So, go sign the petition anyway but most importantly, DON’T STOP THERE!!!

    Folks, write your local editor. Hammer your local, state and federal representatives phone lines. Email. Fax. Voice your opinion as often as you can, however you can. In politics, the squeakiest wheel gets the grease and the lib-progressive-serial-whiners learned that lesson looooooooooooong ago. Please don’t surrender due to apathy.

  • John Eldredge December 18, 2012, 9:27 am

    Gunsamerica,
    I cannot thank you enough for starting this petition. How ignorant can people be to assume that magazine capacity would prevent anything. It takes a deranged, sick person to commit these crimes. We, the responsible gun owners in this country feel for these victims. If only some of us were there, to protect our countries children. I read a post on Facebook stating that, “There is no reason to have an assault weapon with a 30 round magazine”. I fired right back at this ignorant statement. Media seems to be run by the Democrats. Those opposed to responsible gun ownership have no idea how critical this is to a democracy. I raise two beautiful severally disabled boys, and despite being poor. I know I now have to purchase a bunch of high capacity magazines, and as many lower Ar-15 components as possible. Have these people ever watched a 3-gun match? Their ignorance and fear keep them from enjoying the fun of gun ownership. It’s amusing that these ignorant people think taking guns away from the law abiding citizens will prevent crime. It’s been said a million times, but if they do that, only criminals will have guns. Walmart pulled the Bushmaster rifle from it’s catalog, that’s ridiculous. Not that I even consider Walmart to be a gun store. But hell look how many people are killed in a car, you don’t see the government stopping production of automobiles. We as a group need to be strong, have our voice heard and chose our words carefully. I am a Connecticut Native, and as a father feel deep sorrow for the loss of these children and educators. No matter motive, no answer will ever explain to me a reason for this horrible act.

  • Lou December 18, 2012, 9:53 am

    why are we letting them think that they can change the constitution they are still trying to fix the leak buy painting the inside walls of the basement rather then fixing the real problem which is on the outside

  • Jeremy Field December 18, 2012, 9:57 am

    get ready for civil unrest if Obama commits this treason!!!!

  • Vincent Lowers December 18, 2012, 10:04 am

    The constitution allos for defense of the nation, Not your personal hoard of guns Quit trying to re-write the constitrution. The sick FOOLSwho arethe tea party are the same scum who forced christianity into the schools with a COMMIE scare in the 1950s. Want to help the nation? stop forced religion. The country was not and never had any intention of being founded on guns. The United States of America was founded to ESCAPE the TYRANNY of the church of england and its false god.

  • john russo December 18, 2012, 10:05 am

    WAKE UP U.S.WE ARE ABOUT GIVE UP MORE OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.I WILL REFUSE TO LET THIS HAPPEN TO ME.THANKS.

  • rip December 18, 2012, 10:09 am

    you really think making a school a day time prison with security guards bullet proof glass security doors that lock kids in is the answer! i think not. i know times have changed but there are bigger problems and this tradgic shooting takes away from some of the real issues that plague this country. you can not stop crazy unbalanced thinking. look at presciption drugs. that and doctors kill more people yearly than any shooting.look at good old fashion war.men and women where once children and when they die in the service of the goverment its seems that know one has a problem with that . he or she becomes a hero. add up this year how many have died fighting overseas . for what , freedom .sorry no. for greed. do you really want to see armed soldiers on the steet corners of schools . mental instability how do you secure that ? you can’t. the media, now there’s a real weapon of mental destruction. they thrive on dirt and public misdirection. my heart goes out to the families of those victims killed. i am pro gun

  • John J. Szucs December 18, 2012, 10:10 am

    I read but did not sign the petition because it attempts to shift blame to video games. That is just as ridiculous as blaming guns. The real problems are: 1) our society’s refusal to address mental health issues beyond “take this pill and pad Big Pharma’s profits for the rest of your life” and 2) a lack of focus on ensuring that the people buying and using (or misusing) guns are sane and responsible.

  • Claudia Horsley December 18, 2012, 10:11 am

    Thank you

  • Ketchup & Mustard December 18, 2012, 10:20 am

    I agree with this petition’s goal but however I must confess I disagree with the use of or suggestion of the use of violent videogames as a scape-goat. Too many deaths have already happened and too many perps (whether it be their parents, lawyers, or themselves speaking) have blamed a game they’ve played for a murder they committed. Videogames do not kill people. Guns do not kill people. As always since the dawn of man, people kill people; whether it be with a manmade weapon or the oldest weapon their is, the body itself, the killer is the one responsible not the weapon (in the case of manmade weapons of course). If the government really needs to change something, change the process of purchasing a firearm to include a background check on the family as well to insure that there aren’t any family memebers with a history of violence or mental problems (if so make a gunsafe/case a mandatory portion of the sale at reduced cost) or instead wasting all of the money going into Healthcare on the body, focus a few million dollars back into mental healthcare.

  • MAJ Goring December 18, 2012, 10:24 am

    “Bad news #2! While over 60,000 of you clicked into the petition website page yesterday (yes, we count), only 20,000 of you signed the petition. We understand your need for privacy, but the government already knows who you are. They scan in all of your 4473 forms! ARE YOU GOING TO STAND OR ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO HIDE?”

    Hey GunsAmerica! We’re not hiding, we’re embarrassed for you. The reason only 1/3 of readers bothered to sign your petition is because it is poorly written, juvenile and entirely pointless. Your petition asks the President TO DO NOTHING. I’m an NRA Benefactor, Second Amendment Foundation Life Member and active participant in IDPA, USPSA, GSSF, 3-Gun & Service Pistol competitions. I personally attended the 2012 Gun Rights Policy Conference held in Orlando this September. I will not sign your mindless, pointless scribble. If you want people to stand with you, then give them something to stand for. Babble isn’t enough.

    • Josh T December 18, 2012, 10:46 am

      Ok then you write the pettition and we will see where it goes

  • stan wangrycht December 18, 2012, 10:31 am

    Guns do not kill people – People kill people.

  • RJMurphyF December 18, 2012, 10:49 am

    I just signed the petition. Linked from another blog.
    One reason I clicked yesterday and didn’t sign is, once I signed a petition for a right leaning politician, and received hundreds of emails from different political figures, asking for more. They pass out your email like confetti. I’m sure .gov is passing out mine right now.
    Once burnt, twice shy…..but I signed. Because worse things will probably happen than spam.
    And BTW…it’s not the way it’s written, it’s the point of the thing.
    We going to argue over the shade of color on the trim of the banner you stand under, when they shoot you?
    They’ll have to come for me anyway….you too, and they will some day, you all know that, and emails are better than bullets.
    Let’s hope. And be prepared.

  • bob taylor December 18, 2012, 10:54 am

    Dear brother there are some screwed up people in this world and the inconsiderate and thoughtless bastard that wrote this petition is one of them and should be castrated on main street for the crime of living, in my humble opinion of course..

    Gunsamerica and that whining bunch of insensitive misfits will ultimately infuriate the public leadership to the point that all, all, all, rights to gun ownership will be rescinded.

    Had I the power, now tonight! I would terminate gun ownership to anyone who has ever had any affiliation with gunsamerica, what-so-ever. Mailmen, delivery drivers, employees, customers direct and customers indirect, blog writers blog readers. Anyone who had in any way shape, form or fashion had dealings with this group and its leadership should lose all rights to gun ownership. That by damn is how I feel and I am a gun owner with a permit to carry.

    But you gunsamerica,with your petty petition, and don’t tread on me attitude, you have stepped way over the line of civility, reason, and good taste. This angers me because I support reasonable, responsible and decent gun ownership and you have risked it all with your petty ass petition. Furthermore, I personally don’t like My right to bear arms being threatened by the behavior of gunsamerica and its ilk.

    ——————————————————————————–
    From: blog@gunsamerica.com

    • MATTFLOW December 18, 2012, 1:36 pm

      WOULD YOU MIND EXPLAINING YOUR PROBLEM WITH GUNSAMERICA AND THE PETITION?

  • James Robinson December 18, 2012, 10:57 am

    We have a constitutional right to bare arms that no man has the right to take away.

  • Roger December 18, 2012, 11:01 am

    The Govt. needs to look at the Mental Health side of this. And stop the Profiling bull s**t !!!! So what You profile a persons Mental Health it may stop that person from taking others lifes ! Govt. and Lawyers are the Problems.
    Gun Laws isn’t working in Chicago now is IT !!! CROOKS are never going to stop and read a sign !! GET REAL !!

    • DanG December 19, 2012, 12:04 am

      Sure the criminals read the signs. That’s how they know where to go to get all the unarmed victims to massacre!

  • HERB SIGL December 18, 2012, 11:36 am

    OWNERSHIP OF A WEAPON IS A SIGN OF A FREE PEOPLE.
    THE SECOND AMENDMENT ALSO WANTED USE TO PROTECT OURSELVES NOT ONLY FROM CRIMINALS BUT ALSO FROM
    A ROGUE GOVERNMENT.
    AND WHAT MAKES OUR POLITICIANS THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THEN OUR FOREFATHERS THEY BUILD THIS COUNTRY AND ALL THEY ARE DOING IS FATHERING THERE NEST.
    HERB

  • HERB SIGL December 18, 2012, 11:37 am

    OWNERSHIP OF A WEAPON IS A SIGN OF A FREE PEOPLE.
    THE SECOND AMENDMENT ALSO WANTED USE TO PROTECT OURSELVES NOT ONLY FROM CRIMINALS BUT ALSO FROM
    A ROGUE GOVERNMENT.
    AND WHAT MAKES OUR POLITICIANS THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THEN OUR FOREFATHERS THEY BUILD THIS COUNTRY AND ALL THEY ARE DOING IS FATHERING THERE NEST.
    HERB SIGL

  • John Richter December 18, 2012, 11:50 am

    Guns do not kill

  • StigOlof Andersson December 18, 2012, 12:07 pm

    Not even a so called “Comander i Chef” can take our “2:nd amenmen” rights away.

    SigOlof Andersson

  • Jerry Sinkovec December 18, 2012, 12:09 pm

    Good Americans still deserve the right to bear arms and concealed carry. Maybe if some of the teachers had gun training and carried guns that incident would not have happened to the degree it did. Chicago has some of the toughest handgun laws and yet they lead the world in shooting killings. It just proves criminals don’t obey the laws and you can legislate all the laws in the world and criminals will still get guns to do harm to good people. It has been shown that where concealed gun carry laws are in existence there is less crime. Doesn’t your light go on now? We need to be tougher on the bad guys and make sure they don’t get off so easily and continue drugs and killing their competition. Maybe there should be more executions of the killers and less coddling of prisoners so we can make more room for the other bad guys.

  • David Mills December 18, 2012, 12:40 pm

    The one thing we do not need from this tragedy is a knee jerk reaction by the progressive liberals including those more moderate dems and republicans. Legislating more restrictive gun laws does nothing for the hell bent criminal or crazy person who is determined to cause harm. All the gun laws that would come from a knee jerk reaction would only prohibit those of us who are responsible gun owners. GUN FREE ZONES KILL!!
    Not to mention taking our guns means taking our freedoms. The 2nd amendment was not written for the hunter or avid sport shooter but rather to preven a tyrannical government from controlling the people!!!

  • Jeff December 18, 2012, 12:41 pm

    Dear GunsAmerica,

    While I applaud your attitude and standing up for 2nd Amendment rights, I can not and will not sign any petition linked directly to the White House, that can be traced and linked to me and my family. I will not endanger the safety of my family by publicly signing a petition that will let every whack job insurgent unfriendly Gov’t agency know I am a gun owner.
    It si my humble opinion that this is the reason why your petition and the petition for H.R. 2613 The Citizen’s Protection Act will not get the signatures to be noticed before the petitions of the anti-gun crowd.

    Sincerely,

    An American Gun owner greatly afraid of his own Government.

    • Administrator December 18, 2012, 2:06 pm

      thanks sweetie you’re a true patriot

      • Jeff December 22, 2012, 9:21 pm

        Not sure if your reply is genuine or sarcasm.

  • Petr December 18, 2012, 12:48 pm

    What kind of a country are we that does nothing while our precious children are being slaughtered? It’s not just Newtown, CT. There is no safe place in America today. Sure, other countries are facing these same issues. The difference is here gun violence is an out of control epidemic. I have no problems with ‘gun free’ zones like public schools. But if we’re gonna have those, then they must be secured sufficiently to keep the crazed opportunist killers from getting in. Once the fox gets into the chicken coop, the chickens have no defense. My point is, why is there never a mass murder at a shooting range? Clearly gun control alone is not the answer. It’s also true that we will never stop all gun violence, but we can take some thoughtful measures to minimize the carnage. Identify what is common to all these mass killings; young men, loners, mental illness, psychtropic drugs, a culture of violence, millions of defenseless sheeple, assualt-style weapons that have only one purpose. Surely there are many things we can do to address each of these commonalities in a sane and reasonable way. The Newtown incident is only one tiny dot on a blackened US map of carnage. Can it be a ‘tipping point’ in US history? I hope so. Can our inept federal government get together on anything? I doubt it. It’s gonna be up to us; our communities, our neighborhoods, ourselves, to solve this lethal social disgrace. For our children. We must do something for our children. If we don’t, the only thing in our future is extinction. Thank you…

  • MARK R ROBERTSON December 18, 2012, 12:49 pm

    Use common sense Mr President!

  • rob s December 18, 2012, 1:17 pm

    Please bump up the “signatures needed”. I’d be willing to bet that there are many visitors who didnt sign because the saw the goal was already “met”. Bump that sucker up to 2.5 mil :)

    • Administrator December 18, 2012, 2:08 pm

      You can’t the WH set it at 25k. The anti-gunners are up to 170k.

  • Mike the Limey December 18, 2012, 1:20 pm

    Some of those who visited the petition site but didn’t sign are like myself; foreign supporters of the Second Amendment who live outside the US.
    Though we would dearly love to sign, we can’t.
    No doubt there will be quite a lot of those opposed to firearms ownership looking in too, to see what pro firearms people are up to.
    However, it IS pretty sad that so few HAVE signed the petition.
    I wish I could do more to help defend the Right that will soon come under direct attack.

    • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 6:48 pm

      WELL SAID MIKE THE LIMEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      BUT THATS THE WAY IT GOES YOU DONT MISS THE WATER TIL THE WELL IS DRY.
      TO BAD MORE REAL AMERICANS DIDNT THINK IN YOUR TERMS YOU WOULD BE WELCOME HERE AND I WOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A FELLOW AMERICAN AND THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT!

  • MATTFLOW December 18, 2012, 1:31 pm

    I AM HAVING TROUBLE GETTING LOGGED IN TO SIGN THE PETITION ! CAN ANYONE HELP ?

    • Administrator December 18, 2012, 2:08 pm

      Try another browser like Firefox, Chrome or Safari, or a private session in your current browser.

      • Paul December 18, 2012, 2:27 pm

        I couldn’t create an account using Mozilla, but the site did allow me to create an account with Chrome.

  • JAMIE JUHL December 18, 2012, 1:46 pm

    It is the private ownership of guns that keeps a nations leaders, law enforcement agencies and general public respectful of others. Guns do not make people like each other but they will make people leave each other alone. Take away the guns and American households will be overrun. Stop protecting evil, sheltering insanity, and allowing liberal politicians to punish inanimate objects for crime! Say no to banning firearms in the United States! you can’t stop drugs coming into America, what makes you think you could stop illegal weapons coming in?

  • William F Poole December 18, 2012, 2:16 pm

    We’ve taken God from our schools and evil came in. I believe the most ethically immoral act a human being can perform is taking the life of an innocent child. This includes both born and unborn. Our President can easily condemn and condone without reservation. I believe in the 2nd amendment and the right as an individual to own and possess firearms. I have been visibly shaken and saddened by the recent events in Newtown. I share the sorrow the parents and families feel from their loss. But, perhaps before reacting against guns, a look into the violence that is fed to the minds of our youth through video games, jading their emotions and allowing them to devalue human life. Or maybe, more study of mental health issues. God, please give us the answer.

    • DanG December 18, 2012, 11:56 pm

      That is part of the answer there. America needs to turn back to God. Call out and repent and follow God’s law again. Only then can America come back from the downward spiral were in.

  • Georgia Cop December 18, 2012, 2:28 pm

    I guarantee you that everyone who signs this petition will find themselves on “The No Fly List” and you will be screwed with every time you go through an Airport. Also Homeland Security will have you down as a subversive or some shit like that. Just my 2 cents worth.

    • John Roefaro December 19, 2012, 12:44 am

      No new news!! Every gun owner is probably on “the list”

  • walter diggs December 18, 2012, 2:35 pm

    we the people still deserve the right to bare arms to defend our selfs and family

  • TexasVet December 18, 2012, 2:36 pm

    I signed it, but I still feel you need to reword it. Video games doesn’t have shit to do with this. A mental case will be a mental case with or without seeing other violence.

    • Administrator December 18, 2012, 2:51 pm

      No a mental case is a mental case. A mental case that has casually gone through hundreds of kill scenarios in his living room is a killer.

    • DanG December 18, 2012, 11:54 pm

      Sorry, but I think you are wrong about video games. Not all games but the ones where you are going through shooting the police, women and kids just for so called fun; doing this over and over it training you for the real thing. How do you think we all train for protection purposes. The same but with bigger screen or live.

      One common thread in several of the last shootings were these types of video games the young adults played all their growing up years. Add mental problems to this and its like they are playing the game but it is real.

      And again maybe it doesn’t

  • Johnny F Sammons December 18, 2012, 3:15 pm

    Gun control has been debated and discussed many times in congress and very little changes have changed in several years. In regaurd to this last awful school shoting maybe it is time for gun owners be it hunting guns or hand guns for pleasure or protection,it is time to pass some new regulations makeing a legal gun owner responsible for who and where their guns are and how they are used. As I see in reading the news the mother of this young man in Newtown school shooting is responsible for this sad shooting. So The Ban of assualt weapons (define a assualt weapon) would be at the top of my list all weapons that is semi automatic and has a clip with more than 10 rounds and any military guns. How hunters want to hunt and many carry for protection–this is Good for if some adults at this school then carried this may not have happened. If you can buy a gun legally you should be able to carry it legally!

  • Larry Borders December 18, 2012, 3:21 pm

    It is a bad situation and another excuse to take away american gun rights from there legal owners. I agree yes it was a tragedy, and yes if it were one of my children I would be dam pissed, but it could of happened anywhere to anyone of us. The last thing that needs to be done is take away the rights of law abiding citizens. The day we give up our gun rights is the day we are no longer a democracy. another thing, the news needs to quit talking about this jerk, the only thing there doing by keeping him in the news is making a hero to sick minds out of a lunatic!!!

  • RUBEN December 18, 2012, 3:51 pm

    La muerte de estos 20 ANGELITOS de DIOS, mas las otras personas me afecto mucho, solo le pido a DIOS nuestro señor que tenga junto a el estas victimas de un loco asesino,yo ruego por la paz y pido a la justicia divina se apiade de estas almas.estoy muy triste y muy apenado.

  • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 4:15 pm

    EVERYONE KNEW WHAT THIS ELECTION WAS ABOUT DID YOU NEED ANOTHER 4 YEARS TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING ,MY DEAR BROTHER KNEW AND SAID TO ME SORRY I GOT TO VOTE MY POCKET BOOK I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY SOCIAL SECURITY IM RETIRING N 2 YEARS “DEMOCRAT”!!!! A WEEK LATER ASKED ME TO BORROW A HAND GUN FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION ,HELL NO YOU CANT I TOLD HIM GO TALK TO YOUR POCKET BOOK AND ASK FOR HELP THERE…..ALL OF YOU DEMOCRATS HAVE NO RIGHT TO LOOK AT ,TALK GUNS GO HUNTING OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAS TO WITH FIREARMS ………HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME FOR BETRAYING YOUR COUNTRY IF OBAMA WAS SO BOLD AS TO TRY A FAST AND FURIOUS SCHEEM AND THEN COVER IT UP AND GIVE ERIC HOLDER IMMUINTY WITH EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE AFTER BENING SUBPOENAED BY CONGRESS EVEN GRASSLEY HERE IN IOWA KNEW BUT EVERY ONE WAS SO WILLING TO STICK THIER HEADS IN THE SAND OR GET HOME TO MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL OR HONEY BOO BOO!!!!!!!!!!!AMERICA YOUR ASLEEP WAKE UP ITS ALMOST TO LATE !!!!!!!!!!!BOYS WE’LL BE LUCKY TO GET TO KEEP OUR SLING SHOTS AFTER THE NEXT 4 YEARS GOOD LUCK…. ANYONE KNOW WHAT WAS LOST JUST IN IOWA LAST YEAR ? WE DONT EVEN HAVE STAND YOUR GROUND OR THE CASTLE DOCTRINE HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR CARRY PERMITT NOW?

  • Dave December 18, 2012, 4:27 pm

    It has probably already been said but, Why are guns blamed for death and injuries when cars are not blamed for drunk drivers, bats and balls aren’t banned for broken windows? Politicians and the anti-gun lobby need to look at the real problem.

  • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 4:32 pm

    GEORGIA COP IS SOOOOO RIGHT TOO!!!! WE’LL ALL BE ON NO FLIGHT LIST AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE YOUR NAME IS IN A FILE NOW IF YOU SIGNED,I DID BUT HEY I CAN ASSURE YOUR YOUR NAME HAS A CHECK NEXT TO IT SOMEWHERE YOU THINK IM PARANOID GET REAL AMERICA WERE KILLING HUMANS LIKE SURGERY WITH DRONES IN AFGHANISTAN WHICH I DONT CARE ABOUT IF IT SAVES AMERICAN LIVES IM JUST SAYING DONT EVER UNDERESTIMATE TECHNOLOGY AND OUR GOVERNMENT ISNT FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE ANYLONGER WAKE UP AMERICA! “DONT TREAD ON ME” REMEMBER?

  • Schmitty December 18, 2012, 4:43 pm

    ONLY 20K SIGNED INSTEAD OF 60K BECAUSE THE MORON WHO MADE THE WEBSITE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN FIND THE PETITION LET ALONE SIGN IT

    • Administrator December 18, 2012, 4:47 pm

      There is a direct link at the top of everything we have sent.

  • Raymond White December 18, 2012, 4:48 pm

    Guns do not kill people so if you take our guns away only the outlaws will have guns. I have them to protect myself and family. People who are a few fries shot of a happy meal should not have weapons and as far as assualt weapons they should be only for the well qualified owners. Maybe we have to arm the teachers so this will not happen anymore

  • HERB SIGL December 18, 2012, 4:50 pm

    FROM ONE OF OUR FOR FATHERS
    NECESSITY IS THE PLEA FOR EVERY INFRINGEMENT OF HUMAN FREEDOM
    IT IS THE ARGUMENT OF TYRANTS
    AND THE CREED OF SLAVES
    DON’T LISTEN TO THE POLITICIANS THERE LOOKING TO FEATHER THERE OWN NEST AND NOT AT WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU AND ME. THIS COUNTRY DID JUST FINE UNTIL THE NO BETTERS AND PROGRESSIVES CAM ALONG.

    HERB SIGL

  • Linda Sierra December 18, 2012, 5:05 pm

    People will always have guns. It’s not the gun that kills people it’s the person holding it. Safety regulations do work.

  • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 5:09 pm

    YEAH I HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE LINK TOO I WORK WITH COMPUTERS ALL DAY?

  • James Moody December 18, 2012, 5:42 pm

    Everyone wont’s to blame guns. But real blame belongs to the United States Government. Look at the games
    kids play on TV, and you take praying out of school. Never teach thou shell not kill.
    The Government wont’s your guns so it can have total control over you.

    James Moody
    Splendora, TX

  • Robert December 18, 2012, 5:51 pm

    I do not believe signing this petition means anything, look where it is going and who is expected to read it. If any one here wants to make a difference on the outcome of all of this then contact your local representatives and see to it your friends do the same. These are the people who will ether allow this to happen or stand against it. They will stand against it if they get contacted by you and me. You expect obama to care about what 30k gun owners say? Seriously? are you kidding me. I do not understand why the writer of this article did not try and compel the readers of this blog to sign this then do the thing that will count the most – contact your congressman and senator and make your local friends do the same and then do it again and again until these people understand we are not going to lay down on this.

  • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 6:06 pm

    RAYMOND WHITE DO YOU KNOW WHAT QUALIFIES A FIREARM AS AN ASSULT WEAPON BE CAREFUL WHAT YOUR WILLING TO GIVEAWAY ….ANY FIREARM WITH A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HIGH CAPACITY ? WELL WHATS HIGH CAPACITY 10 ROUNDS 12 ROUNDS THERE GOES YOUR FAVORITE SQUIRREL OR PLINKING 22LR, YOUR GLOCK THINK IN BIGGER TERMS AND NOW YOUR THINKING ON LINE WITH THE ANTI GUN MOVEMENT YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THE 80S HUGH? LETS KEEP WHAT WE HAVE AND THANK RUGER FOR GIVING IN JUST A LITTLE NOW WE HAVE GUN LOCKS!

  • Chad Ellis December 18, 2012, 6:07 pm

    We need a bunch of signatures. The best, by far, place on the internet to get thousands of hits and possibly thousands of signatures is reddit.com. The one line in the petition that killed it at reddit was “Where is the outrage at the violent video games he played?” This one line is costing this petition the support of the largest active community online. CAN THE PETITION BE EDITED?

  • John Plichta Sr. December 18, 2012, 6:20 pm

    Guns don’t kill people, People kill people!!!!!!!!!!The only answer is to bring God Back to our schools.

    • Danny Jared December 18, 2012, 7:23 pm

      thats right ever sence they took GOD out of our schools the devil has over took them over. guns had nothin to do with that.

  • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 6:36 pm

    THE MEDIA LOVES THIS KIND OF TRAEDY ITS RATINGS PEOPLE!!!!! SO WHATS THEY FIX STOP WATCHING THE MEDIA THAT SUPPORTS THIS KIND OF ANTI GUN GARBAGE.
    THE DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA ARE ANTI GUN SO WHATS THE FIX??????DONT VOTE FOR THEM!
    YOUR TO LATE YOU SHOULD HAVE WORRIED AT ELECTION TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • WE THE PEOPLE December 18, 2012, 7:16 pm

    IM 49 YEARS OLD THE ANTI GUN MOVEMENT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE I CAN REMEMBER AND I HAVE BEEN HUNTING AND SPORT SHOOTING SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID. THATS NEVER GONNA CHANGE FOR ME BOTTOM LINE I DONT GIVE S**T WHAT LAWS THEY PASS OR WHAT THE THEY THINK THEY ARE GONNA BAN I’M AN AMERICAN CITITZEN AND UNDER THE SECOND AMMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA I WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS ITS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE BY MEN THAT HAD THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE IN MIND AND WHO WERE BETTER VERSED THAN THE BAFFOONS THAT RUN THIS COUNTRY TODAY, IT WAS YOUR RIGHT AS SOON AS YOU WERE BORN ON THIS PATCH OF GROUND .

  • jose velez December 18, 2012, 7:18 pm

    OBAMA and democrats need to stop bitching and grow ………………………………………. .

  • Bobby December 18, 2012, 7:42 pm

    I am so mad with our so called NRA! Where are they at at in our greatest need now? They even closed there Face book page. I have lost all respect that I had for them. I have been a member for over 20yrs, But not any more. All there good at is taking your money!!

    • Capt. Spalding December 18, 2012, 11:47 pm

      I have been saying that for years. The NRA is nothing but lobbyists. And lobbyists simply go where the money is.

      Why so many ever put their faith in them is beyond me.

  • Alan December 18, 2012, 7:50 pm

    Amen to all post.

  • Alan December 18, 2012, 7:50 pm

    Amen to all post.

  • modesto teresi December 18, 2012, 9:07 pm

    I don’t believe that attacking our second amendment is the right thing to do now or ever. To leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of an insane, unstable and just flat out, crazy person. To attack such right with emotion rather than logic is irresponsible and immature. We are taught to make our decisions logically and not to be influenced by making such decisions emotionally. That is what a responsible human being does! Think logic..

  • Jerry Hall December 18, 2012, 11:02 pm

    Anyway I just wanted to say a couple of things here. I am a gun owner and I am very responsable with them. I have trigger locks on them and also lock them up. How about putting security at schools to check students when they come into the schools and also watching constantly around the school grounds so that it would be nearly impossible for crazy freeks to make it into any schools. One example is my girlfriend is from the Phillipines and she was a school teacher there for 14 years and she said no one could ever make into any school there in the phillipines beacuse the have high fences around all school facilities and if you want to go into visit the school or talk to someone there, you must have valid Identification, and have a very valid reason to be entering the school premesis. I am wondering if they can do that being a pretty poor country, why here in America we cannot do something like that, since we are much welthier here than in the Phillipines? Good question? I think it is.

  • DanG December 18, 2012, 11:22 pm

    May God comfort the familys of these children killed by this evil man.

    No amount of laws or bans or anything would stop an evil, psycho, mentally Ill, etc. person from commiting any kind of crime! Laws only work against the law abiding citizens. Thats why they are criminals. They don’t obey and never will. Atrocities like this will never stop until the law makers change their way of thinking. Every time something aweful happens it is instantly “we have to make stricter gun laws or we need to ban certain types of guns” or magazines. This has never worked in history and it never will because criminals don’t care. They steel or buy on black market and obtain them illegally. As in this case again He was refused sale of a firearm so he stole them. The law prohibited him from buying so he stole and did it anyway. If he didn’t steel his moms, he would have stole somewhere else and still done this.
    It is time to do the opposite. We need to allow law abiding citizens who have the training and the lawfully carried firearm to be able to carry anywhere, just as police are able to. The police come normally after the crime has been comitted to deal with the mess. The law abiding person is there and could stop the criminal before a tragity like this happens. As usual this was a stricted gun control state, and a “gun free” zone so only the bad guy had the guns. This needs to stop!
    Places with the least amount of gun restrictions have the lowest crime rate. Places that require all law abiding citizens to have a loaded firearm in their house have litterally no crime because the criminals go away because they don’t want an armed victum. It doesn’t have to be inforced, if you don’t like guns, you don’t have to own one, but the criminals don’t know who does or doesn’t.
    Criminal have been interviewed and state: they are not afraid of the police because they don’t usually arrive until after the fact. They are afraid of law abiding citizens owning guns because they are the intended victum and tthe criminals don’t want to get shot themselves.

    Guns are not evil, certain people are! As several courts have ruled, “The duty of the Police is NOT to protect the individual person, it is to police the populance as a hole. The police have no duty to respond and protect the individual. It is the responsibility of the person to protect themselves”.

    Give us the tools to do so. There are hundreds if not thousands of “gun restriction” laws on the books, but not one of them stops criminals. It is the duty and responsibility of the people to.

    P.S to a coment above. Yes, the founding fathers still would have created the second amendment as they did even including full auto firearms. They knew firearms would change in the future and did this to protect all our rights.

    I pray that America will cry out to God and repent and ask for his restoration. We can be great once again if we go back to God and obey His law.
    God bless America.

  • DanG December 18, 2012, 11:27 pm

    Sorry about the spelling a didn’t correct it before I posted.

  • Wolf December 18, 2012, 11:38 pm

    Mental Health is the only issue that should be brought up.

    Violent Video Games have been proven to have NO correlation to violent behavior.

  • Capt. Spalding December 18, 2012, 11:45 pm

    Heres some common sense. DEMAND THE SECURITY FOOTAGE OF ALL SHOOTINGS! How can you allow your govt to create legislation based off of hearsay? I dont care what the news says.
    Introduce Legislation that says: ALL security footage, unaltered, unedited, should be available to the public, if laws resulting from it are to be created.

    If the security footage cannot be released due to pending investigation, no legislation can be passed, as a result of the same pending legislation.

    Beat them at their own fake ass game.

  • George A. Buckingham December 18, 2012, 11:54 pm

    More attention needs to be given to mental health issues. The government is as ineffective dealing with violence as it is with drugs.

  • John Roefaro December 19, 2012, 12:30 am

    As law enforcement officers we must first remember that we are private citizens of the United States of America! We swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, it’s Amendments and the Bill of Rights!! As Americans we should study the Federalist Papers, as the content clearly explains the thoughts behind the aforementioned from the authors themselves. It must be impressed upon us all that the 2nd Amendment is all that protects and ensures the remaining Amendments!! We shall not infringe upon that right! Violence is a social problem that we must continue to seriously work to stop by all means except infringement of our, and the citizens we swear to protect, RIGHTS!! Erosion of those rights is never the answer and only propagates and encourages tyranny!! May the blood of war stain our hands so our children forever know peace!!!!

  • Matthew Robinson December 19, 2012, 1:57 am

    Guns do not kill people….people kill people…..please Mr. President….taking our guns away is not the answer….that gun could not pull its own trigger…HELLO…..wake the hell up…

  • RAYINSC December 19, 2012, 8:54 am

    AS A WINCHESTER PRODUCT DESIGN ENGINEER IN 1968 (YEAR OF THE BIG LAW) TO 1973, I TALKED TO CONGRESSMEN ABOUT ALL LAWS. MY POINT WAS VERY SHORT AND SINCERE. THAT WAS THAT GUNS WERE NOT “HIGH TECH”. BAN THEM, AND DO ANY LEGISLATION AGAINST THEM (AS OPPOSED TO PROSECUTING AND EXECUTING KILLERS) AND I, OR SOMEBODY ELSE, CAN GIVE YOU, OR CRIMINALS, ALL THE GUNS YOU WANT. IT ONLY TAKES AN ACCOMPLISHED MACHINIST, A LATHE AND A MILLER, AND ASSOCIATED TOOLING, AND THE KNOWLEDGE I POSSESS, TO DO IT. HOW DO YOU LEGISLATE THAT? I OFTEN WONDERED: WHY DOESN’T THE CRIMINAL WORLD START THEIR OWN GUN FACTORY? THAT’S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AS WE PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THE GUN COMPANIES AS WE KNOW THEM NOW. WE EVEN TAUGHT THE AFGHANS HOW TO DO IT IN CAVES, WHEN WE WERE HELPING THEM AGAINST THE RUSSIANS. P.S. I HAVE BEEN A N.R.A. MEMBER SINCE 1966, LIFE MEMBER SINCE 1974. WE SHOULD HAVE 40 MILLION MEMBERS BY NOW, NOT JUST 4 MILLION. I PROPOSE A GRADUATED SCALE OF COST PER AGE (LIKE INSURANCE PREMIUMS) TO GET MORE LIFE MEMBERS IN OUR RANKS, AND HAVE A BIGGER BASE OF VOTERS. I HOPE THE N.R.A. MEMBERS SUGGEST THIS IN THEIR CORRESPONDENCE.

  • John M. Wheaton December 19, 2012, 8:58 am

    Guns do not load themselves and pick a victim or victim.

  • Everett Thomas December 19, 2012, 9:05 am

    I just received the email from GunsAmerica Blog that the petition numbers were not very good. On 12/17/2012, I went there, signed/sealed/delivered and a page came that said I would receive an email to use as verification so my response would be accepted. Guess what?!! THAT EMAIL NEVER CAME! They must not want anyone who is pro-guns to enter a comment.

  • RAYINSC December 19, 2012, 9:10 am

    WHEN YOU HEAR OF SOMEONE YELLING “FIRE” IN A CROWDED THEATER, JUST TO MAKE THEM STAMPEDE TO THE DOOR WITH NO VALID REASON, YOU DON’T ARREST THE REST OF THE AUDIENCE.

  • Karl December 19, 2012, 9:57 am

    It’s a poor carpenter who blames his tools.
    This foolishness of mistaking the finger for the moon has really gone on long enough, and now it is taking the lives of our children.
    When will you face the fact that the gun is not the problem? They are the symptom, telling you that the PROBLEM is getting worse.
    Why was this child, and the others who have committed similar crimes, so troubled?
    Why are our children suddenly having “anti-depressants” forced on them in school? Why are they so fat and sick? Follow the money.
    Why can’t we discipline our children? Child abuse laws. Follow the money. You can smell the lawyers from here.
    Why can’t teachers, parents, and mental health workers talk to each other? Privacy laws. Follow the money. Find the lobbyists.
    What allows children to abuse and sue their parents and teachers? Child protection laws. Follow the money. It leads to politicians and corporations, insurance companies, “health providers”, lawyers, lobbyists, and a lot of people who think they know what’s right for other people, but refuse to judge their own behavior.
    “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.” Although it is found in the Bible, it is an ethic that is even more ancient than that, and you may notice, it doesn’t contain the word, “God”. It works for atheists, Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and Taoists alike. Even Wiccans.
    It doesn’t have to go any farther than that. We don’t need a global government. Just a little common sense.
    Guns? You have a population gone so insane that the children are grabbing whatever they can find to make a statement loud enough to be heard,and you’re blaming it on the guns?
    You are foolish and lost. You’ve lost your heart and common sense. You have my pity. I hope you can find forgiveness.

  • Brian December 19, 2012, 10:01 am

    Funny thing…..Ive tried signing the petition twice now and when I submit, suddenly the site is “under construction”?

  • HERB SIGL December 19, 2012, 11:06 am

    NECESSITY IS THE PLEA FOR EVERY INFRINGEMENT OF HUMAN FREEDOM
    IT IS THE ARGUMENT OF TYRANTS
    AND THE CREED OF SLAVES
    (FROM ONE OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS)

    POLITICIANS LIKE TO TELL US HOW TO LIVE, SO DO PROGRESSIVES AND KNOW IT ALL’S PUT MOST ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN REELECTIONS, $$$$$ AND POWER.

  • Dan Hughes December 19, 2012, 11:23 am

    I believe that guns alone are not to blame for these shootings.I believe that several things contribute to these kind of tragedies.Just to name a few and not necessarily in this order;state of mind,race,upbringing,social life style,family life,sibling rivalry,drugs,recreation,education,financial stability,etc.I do not believe we can lay the blame all on one doorstep.That would be to easy.If it where that easy the problem would have been solved a long time ago.This is a complicated problem with complicated answers.This problem will not just go away by making more and more unenforceable gun laws.We need to start enforcing the gun laws we all ready have.If all the guns in America disappeared today it would not stop the senseless murders in our society.

  • Dib Waldrip December 19, 2012, 1:38 pm

    Mr. President,

    Just as quick as you may act to pass a gun control law in response to the killing of 20 innocent school children last week, please be just as quick to pass an abortion control law in response to the killing of 56,000,000 innocent babies since 1973.

    Contact me at any time if you need further rationale.

    Dib Waldrip

  • Keith December 19, 2012, 4:50 pm

    Vilify the user, not the tool.

  • Andrew December 19, 2012, 5:40 pm

    May the victims of Adam Lanza rest in peace.

    If guns are to dangerous should not the President be the shining example and disarm his security forces first?

    Anti-gun legislation is the same as bringing paper to a gun fight.

  • CarlaB December 19, 2012, 7:20 pm

    I’m female, 55, have had firearms since I was 18; with a former law enforcement, current gunsmith/FFL husband. I’ve only had to expose my weapon once to protect myself in a city environment in 1982, and the biggest threat I face now are the coyotes that get too close to our property. Yes, I’m of the “out of my cold,dead hand” school, but I also know that this is a time for intelligent discussion and swift action.

    While everybody’s sitting on the fence about signing this petition because they don’t agree with one phrase in it or another, be mindful that there is another petition with almost 200,000 signatures, that is vague and does not actually specify pro- or anti- gun… Kind of raises the hair on the back of my neck.

    Our count is just over 50,000. I suggest we get busy and increase our pro-gun numbers as quickly as possible. Yes, the petition could have been worded a bit more carefully, but time is of the essence.

    Here is a preview of their petition: Immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress. The goal of this petition is to force the Obama Administration to produce legislation that limits access to guns. While a national dialogue is critical, laws are the only means in which we can reduce the number of people murdered in gun related deaths. Powerful lobbying groups allow the ownership of guns to reach beyond the Constitution’s intended purpose of the right to bear arms. Therefore, Congress must act on what is stated law, and face the reality that access to firearms reaches beyond what the Second Amendment intends to achieve. The signatures on this petition represent a collective demand for a bipartisan discussion resulting in a set of laws that regulates how a citizen obtains a gun. See it here > https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-address-issue-gun-control-through-introduction-legislation-congress/2tgcXzQC

  • EARL BRIDWELL December 19, 2012, 9:52 pm

    GUNS KNOT THE PROBLEM! A SO CALLED CHRISTIAN NATION THAT HAS KICKED GOD OUT OF SCHOOLS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES, THAT SERVE GOD WITH LIPS, WHILE THEIR HEARTS ARE FAR FROM HIM. THATS THE PROBLEM IN AS FEW WORDS AS POSSIBLE.

  • BIG Bill December 19, 2012, 11:05 pm

    I’m sad that someone used a weapon to kill 27 innocents. Anything I can say in defense of firearms has already been said. I’ve said it myself for more than 40 years. A human killed these people, not a firearm. If our “illustrious” president outlaws firearms, then as now, only outlaws will have firearms. If you think there is a problem now, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

  • Jeff Delana December 20, 2012, 2:49 am

    I hope our country dosnt make the huge mistake of trying to ban our guns then the only people with guns will be the bad ones.

  • Mario Ortega December 20, 2012, 2:59 am

    Please sign mine while you’re at it to repatriate the Korean M1 Garand rifles and 1911 Colt pistols they have stockpiled and have offered for sale! I know I could use a reasonably priced genuine article for my WWII collection. Thanks all.

  • Mario Ortega December 20, 2012, 3:02 am

    Sorry, the link to sign to repatriate the Garands and 1911′s is:

    http://wh.gov/nPHc

    Thanks again

  • MIKE HOLLANDER December 20, 2012, 6:26 am

    The fact is that terrorist cells and other hate groups have grown over the
    years. The world is watching us, and if we give up our right to bear arms or
    go too much to the extreme, that will give the hate groups and terrorists
    more opportunity to take advantage of the American people. There would be
    more carnage in the United States if this happened from these factions. It
    is better to show strength than weakness. The American people are not here
    to overthrow the government, but to protect themselves from unlawful and
    violent acts by misguided people.

  • RAYINSC December 20, 2012, 10:52 am

    IN RESPONSE TO CarlaB ABOVE AND ALL OTHERS, THE WORD “WEAPON” IS A POOR CHOICE. REFER TO THE SMALL ARMS & AMMUNITION MANUFACTURER’S INSTITUTE (SAAMI) GLOSSARY OF TERMS, OR “THE WEBSTER’S DICTIONARY”. THE WORD “WEAPON” DENOTES AN AIR OF COMBATIVENESS. IN OTHER WORDS, POOR PUBLIC RELATIONS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PERSONS WATCHING NEWS AND TALK SHOWS WHO RELATE THIS TO “NUCLEAR WEAPONS”, “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”, ETC. THESE PEOPLE VOTE & OUR SPORTING ARMS HAVE TO BE SEPARATED IN THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS. “WEAPON” IS A TERM FOR THE POLICE & MILITARY ONLY. I HAVE BOUGHT FIREARMS, AND EVEN WORKED AS AN ENGINEER FOR A FIREARMS COMPANY, BUT I NEVER BOUGHT OR WORKED ON “WEAPONS”. EVEN LATER IN MY ENGINEERING CAREER, WORKING ON ANTI-TANK & ICBM”s FOR A DIFFERENT COMPANY, I HAD TROUBLE REFERRING TO THEM AS “WEAPONS”, EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD OBLITERATE A TANK & OR WIPE OUT MOSCOW. I KNOW THAT, WHEN I CARRY A GUN, IT HAS THE CAPABILITY TO KILL, BUT I DIDN’T OBTAIN IT FOR THAT AS A PRIMARY GOAL. I HAVE LEARNED TO DISDAIN THE WORD “WEAPON”. I DON’T TRUST ANYONE WHO USES THE WORD, SINCE I SHOWS AGRESSIVENESS AND POSSIBLE POOR JUDGEMENT, BUT DEFINITE LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE FIREARM AND ITS POSSIBLE USE TO KILL (POOR TRAINING FOR THE PUBLIC SECTOR). WHILE I WORKED AT THE WINCHESTER DIVISION OF OLIN CORPORATION, ALL PERSONNEL, UNDER FEAR OF BEING TERMINATED, WERE NEVER TO UTTER OR WRITE THE WORD “WEAPON”. VIET NAM AND FIREARMS LEGISLATION (DUE TO THE ASSASSINATION OF RFK AND MLK IN 1968) WERE “HOT TOPICS” IN THE NEWS, & THE OLIN CORPORATION WAS TRYING TO KEEP OUR RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, AND PRODUCTION FOR THE WAR EFFORT FROM BEING PUBLICIZED. EVERYTHING WAS DONE UNDER CODE NAMES FOR THE SPORTING ARMS MARKET.
    P.S. I LOVE THE FACT THAT FEMALES ARE GETTING TRAINED IN USING FIREARMS, BUT WHEN AN INSTRUCTOR USES THE WORD “WEAPON”, HE, OR SHE, SHOULD BE CORRECTED. YOU ARE GETTING TRAINING TO PROTECT YOURSELF, NOT JOINING THE MILITARY OR POLICE (UNLESS YOU ARE). I HAVE GIVEN TALKS MYSELF OVER THE YEARS TO POLICE & MILITARY PERSONNEL, AND IT IS AMAZING HOW IGNORANT THEY ARE OF GUNOLOGY (A WINCHESTER TERM). SHOOTING AND GUNS IS A NEVER ENDING LEARNING & PRACTICE PROCESS. I DO A LOT OF READING, LOOKING FOR THAT LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE THAT I MISSED. I’VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 54 YEARS, AND WILL CONTINUE DOING IT, SO AS TO CONVEY IT TO OTHERS.

    • CarlaB December 21, 2012, 1:32 pm

      Point taken… I’m a stickler when it comes to using correct terminology, so am glad to have the feedback.

  • RAYINSC December 20, 2012, 11:07 am

    WHEN I WAS A PART-TIME GUARD AT A LOCAL HOSPITAL, IT IS AMAZING HOW MUCH THE HIPPA LAW INTERFERED WITH SENSIBILITY. PERSONS DEEMED DRUG ADDICTS, OR MENTALLY ILL WERE GUARDED IN THE HOSPITAL, THEN LET LOOSE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INSTITUTIONAL SPACE TO KEEP THEM. ONLY TO BE RETURNED AT A LATER DATE. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST BEEN ADDED TO THE LIST OF “UNDESIREABLES” TO OBTAIN A FIREARM, AND THE INSTA-CHECK SYSTEM.
    THIS IS WHERE ONE LAW PROHIBITS ANOTHER FROM WORKING.

  • Michael December 20, 2012, 5:01 pm

    I believe …Adam Lanza was posessed by the devil.the hate groups and terrorists will have us out gunned We best not lose our guns

  • RAYINSC December 20, 2012, 5:50 pm

    I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT THE ONLY GUN CONTROL, THAT WORKS, IS THE ONE THAT TELLS YOU HOW TO HOLD THE GUN TO HIT YOUR TARGET.

  • Kent December 20, 2012, 9:33 pm

    A big gun was used on the twin towers and killed more people than in pearl harbour. HA America is protected by gun owners. The Jews may have survived with the right to bear arms. If someone is breaking into your house and yo