Cimarron Firearms
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If you are a cowboy shooter or you just love guns that look and feel like they did at the dawn of American firearms, Cimarron has become the primary importer of high quality Uberti firearms, any many of them are short run and quite novel. This is what’s new this year so far:
Colt 1862 Pocket .380 Conversion – Wow, if it ever happens, but as I asked in the video, it is nearly impossible to keep the shells from sliding out backwards as you cock the gun from shot to shot. Sure, you can just be careful to keep it tilted forward, but for a gun that will probably cost in the $400-$700 range, who wants to do that? They may end up putting a loading gate on the gun, but even then, without a little finesse, the cartridges will catch as they pass the edge of the loading cutout. Revolver cartridges have rims for a reason. We’ll see.
Winchester 1894 – At first you may say big deal. 30-30 Winchester 94s are a dime a dozen (though not so much as they used to be), and Mossberg makes a decent US version. Well those are all the modern 94, with a tang safety and different internals than the original. Uberti only makes guns that people request, so I’m sure they’ll sell plenty of these, even if most of us couldn’t care less.
Lost 1876 Carbine – You really have to listen to the story behind creating this gun. You’ll shake your head that cowboy shooters could be so silly, and you’ll want one. That’s my prediction.
Tom Horn 1876 – Er, I’m sorry but I’ve never seen the movie, and I was in the first wave of SASS shooters back in the 90s. (#19811). To me cowboy shooting has always been about history, not about historical fiction, but each to his own. I’m sure they sell every one they make.
I have 2 Uberti open tops & I love ’em both. I don’t shoot cowboy action, I just love the colt open top. i have a few colt cap’n’balls too. One is a 45 cal & the other is in 38 Colt. I can’t understand why anyone would make the pocket pistol in 380 acp. It makes no sense. You have to load with reduced powder charges for the open top anyway so why go 380? They already make low pressure 38 colt cartridges commercially. I would LOVE to have one of these but not in 380. Like one person already said, the guns aren’t cheap to begin with so how about making it a true Colt replica?!
Tom Horn is not a fictional character. The movie starred Steve McQueen & Horn was a real person. He was framed for murder. He WAS a gun for hire & I’m not condoning the things he did but the kid he supposedly shot in the back was a murder he did not commit. He shot a 45/65 which was a very uncommon cartridge & that was his downfall. All that was needed to frame him was an empty cartridge case at the murder scene. Check the movie out. If you like Cowboy Shooting you will love this old movie.
Ruger has spent several decades chambering single action revolvers for pistol cartridges. As I write this, a Blackhawk 357/9mm is within arms reach. Perhaps they have learned a thing or two from Ruger?
I always wanted someone to reintroduce the colt pocket conversions but 380? I see problems with this. The only cal. that is correct for this gun imho is 38 LC. Close to the same ballistics and it has a rim plus many cowboy shooters already load it. I would buy one asap. It also needs ivory grips.
If you research Tom Horn you’ll find he used a Model 94 with a button magazine and a round barrel during the time he was purported to have killed Willie Nickells. The model 76 was used in the movie. So I guess the Tom Horn 76 they’re peddling is for the SASS members you claim are all about “real history”
I wouldn’t buy anything made by Muslims, like 1878 shotgun copy.
poor article.
Yep good ol’ Tom Horn a very real person. SASS is the fictional character
Re: Tom Horn Model 1876 – “To me cowboy shooting has always been about history, not about historical fiction,…”. Ahhhh Paul, Tom Horn is historical – a real guy (rightly or wrongly) hung in Wyoming in 1903. Horn was like a lot of those famous/infamous guys of that era -they seemed to be on both sides of the law. But no matter the controversy about his exploits or crimes, he led a wild life which is historical fact not historical fiction.
Forget the movie – try reading history before you make such an uninformed opinion.
Not so sure about that 62 pocket in .380. I have a 62 Pocket Navy that is an elegant little gun, but the model (kind of) shown in the video looses all of that for the sake of a cartridge conversion. If it was me, I would have probably gone the typical conversion route, either a Richards-Mason or a Kriss in order to preserve the lovely design. But we will see how it turns out.
As to the video itself, it would have been kind of nice if you’d really shown us the guns instead of seeing prats of them lying on the table.
The Uberti conversion appears to me to be a very close reproduction of the actual cartridge revolvers made by Colt in the 1870s-80s. It looks like the “New Model Breech Loading Pocket Pistol,” known to collectors as “Type 5.” Made in .38 center and rimfire it was just like this one with a solid (no loading lever or slot for one) 3.5inch, round barrel and no loading gate. The gates were added to later models; Types 6 & 7. Type 5s were relatively successful commercially and were made from from leftover percussion pistols and parts and were also newly manufactured as cartridge pistols. According to “Variations of Colt’s New Model Police and Pocket Breech Loaders:” J.D.Breslin, et al., Mowbray, 2002, Colt converted 6,700 Old Model 1849 percussion Pocket pistols to this configuration and made another 3,425 from scratch. I would gladly pay the $400+for one of these considering how much the originals go for- and you can shoot this one too!