Armageddon! – Classified US Army Manual – Internment Re-Education FEMA Camps

enemy-prisonersThe US Army released a somewhat ominous list of new manuals over the past month. In the “New Releases” page at army.mil, you’ll find “KILL BOX PLANNING,” “CIVIL DISTURBANCE,” and most recently, “CIVIL-MILITARY OPERATIONS CENTER.” One among them, entitled “DETAINEE OPERATIONS, referenced as FM 3-63, has the unique distinction of being the co-operations manual with the now famously leaked FM 3-39.40, “INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS.” This is the manual that exposed the fact that domestic FEMA camps were not only planned, they are here, and the US Army is being trained to run them.

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There is no way to get the new manual without a secure government login, but it leaves you to speculate what might be in the manual. The interesting thing is that this manual was updated after its last version that you can still download from 2008. Since FM 3-39.40 was also updated from a previous version, but the number was changed, what was added to this that warranted not changing the number and title, but nonetheless keeping it for insiders only?

fema

One of the additions to this manual is the inclusion of FEMA as one of the agencies that could run these camps.

If you have any doubt as to the existence of FEMA camps in the US, I urge you to watch Jesse Ventura’s Conspiracy Theory Episode on them. It is shocking.

civilian-internees

This manual was clearly written to apply to civilians, and if you read into the language of the manual, you’ll find that it sounds like Americans that have turned against the government.

confiscateditems

Guns will of course be confiscated.

enemy-prisoners

First an enemy, then a prisoner. The question is, why did they need to rewrite that manual?

1.1-graph

Where do you fit on this list?

militaryhousingunit

Military personnel are treated in the manual with their own rules and even housing. Everyone asks, if the camps are planned, who do they plan to put in them? One of the answers is that some soldiers won’t fire on Americans or violate the US constitution. The camps are for you.

8000housing

Civilian bunks are much more crowded. There are 8,000 in this building, and the manual talk about overcrowding.

blindfoldmaterial

Blindfolds??

psyop

An entire appendix on Psychological Operations to make you conform and submit.

useofforcecontinum

They are planning for things to escalate to deadly force.

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Capture and Internment plans.

serial-numbers

Serial numbers, just like the Nazi Camps. The manual suggests bracelets, but what happens when the bracelets are broken off? Concentration camp tatoos of course.

movementbyrail

Plans to move detainees by train. Another frightening parallel to Nazi Germany.

prisonerclothes

Shocking prison jumpsuits for Americans who disagree.

untrusted

Try to download the new classified manual and you’ll get a notice from your web browser that someone is intercepting your secure connection. Try to find this message on any other website in the world!

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Much of the manual is politically correct nice-speak, but if you read between the lines, this is a horror just waiting to happen.

What is in the new manual?

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  • Brian Laurich August 2, 2016, 3:35 am

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  • Robert June 17, 2016, 11:26 am

    Just for your information. In 2006-07 I was hired as an armed gate guard at an airbase I will not name where the mission was critical to the war effort in the Mideast. All of our training was the same as the military police received. We had to pass the same training and tests, security background checks and everything else for protecting the base. Even in that atmosphere every person entering had to show their ID including the base commander. Our only authority was keeping unauthorized persons off the base. There was no hint about training military personnel for subjecting civilians to arrest. In fact, the MPs that remained on the base had to let the local LE on base as they were the ultimate authority for arrests, etc. The MPs had authority only in the area of military protocol. Now, is it possible that our government could turn against us and run camps to contain us? A pretty big order if you use common sense, something that is rare these days, and see that it would be impossible to contain a population where these are millions of weapons at their disposal and millions of population to control. Civil law is based on the presumption that people who are under those laws are willing to obey them. Therefore in the end the people are the ones who make sure the laws are enforced by only obeying them. Police are for investigations to follow up crimes and catch the criminals. I’ve had arguments with friends who are cops over that but in the end it is true.

  • CaptAbn May 31, 2014, 3:28 am

    In ref to all the personnel who have taken the oath upon being inducted or commissioned. I remember only one verse “defend our nation against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC”. Fig.J-3 above looks very familiar to the facilities I saw on Fort McCoy Wi./ Camp Williams Wi. as I drove by on I-94 between july93 thru nov. 2010, it just kept growing in facilities. The Air base (Volk Field) is “supposed” to be able to handle C17 & C5, Base to a fighter wing and a refueling wing. Very interesting read about camp Williams “opened in 1996 as a prison”. I just saying! Check it yourself, the satellite maps are very old.

  • cb May 27, 2014, 1:22 am

    Watch David Wilcox the plan to take down the illuminati on YouTube. It’s an interview with a Vietnam Vet. Very enlightening to this discussion.

  • Marty May 20, 2014, 10:42 pm

    Where does O’Bamas civilian army fit in to all of this ?

    • j boling May 26, 2014, 9:27 pm

      That “private army,” described in ACA section 5210, is made up of auxiliary Public Health Service reservists who can be summoned in the event of disease outbreak, natural disaster, etc. Nice to have those guys on call if you have a MERS-infected passenger get off the plane from Saudi. Oh, we already did, didn’t we? And P.H.S. responded. Cool. As for calling it an “Army,” I’m not exactly shaking in my boots over a bunch of doctors, nurses, and corpsmen coming on board in time of need. (And by the way, that provision is in the Obamacare bill, but it has always been around in other legislation; they had to add it this time for accounting purposes in figuring the total cost of the otherwise-useless bill.)

  • Frank Zappa May 20, 2014, 9:15 pm

    The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.

  • George Carlin May 20, 2014, 9:09 pm

    Just when these American citizens needed their rights most, the government took them away. And rights aren’t rights if someone can take them away. They’re privileges. That’s all we’ve ever had in this country, a bill of temporary privileges. And if you read the news, even badly, you will know the list gets shorter, and shorter and shorter. Sooner or later, the people in this country are going to realize the government doesn’t give a f*** about them. The government doesn’t care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare, or your safety. It simply doesn’t give a f*** about you. It’s interested in its own power. That’s the only thing; keeping it, and expanding it wherever possible.

  • Adam May 20, 2014, 8:47 pm

    Y’all have jumped the shark this time. POW operations, Civil Unrest, Civil Disturbance, and many others are various situations ANY government faces when conducting military operations in ANY country. I’ve been doing this for 21 years now, and the rules you see highlighted above are standard protocol for any operation that might contact civilians. You get worried about blindfolds? Really? If we march POWs around their homeland, they can see exactly where they are. Then, if they manage to escape, they can tell all their friends not only exactly where we were, but what we’re equipped with, what mission capabilities they observed us employ, and any weaknesses they happened to observe. Guns America used to publish decent articles about GUNS…a topic with which you had unique and specific knowledge. When you crossed into tin-foil-hat-land, you have discredited not only yourself, but also anyone who may use your articles for reference. To further aggravate the damage, you resort to ad-hominem attacks against anyone who tries to correct the errors you have made. When you refuse to listen to criticism and/or verify your source materiel with the subject matter experts, you lose journalistic credibility and become indistinguishable from other rags such as The Enquirer, or The Huffington Post. When I want political conversation, I’ll read Ace of Spades or PJMedia. Now, when I want to read firearms articles, or buy a new gun or accessory, I’ll be logging on to somewhere other than Guns America.

    • Administrator May 21, 2014, 9:04 am

      Just remember they put the blindfold on you in your own homeland Adam. This is obviously designed for CONUS and Huffpost is never going to tell you about it. How’s that Jay Z tattoo doing for you?

      • Adam May 28, 2014, 11:07 pm

        Who’s Jay-Z? And what does that have to do with intelligent discussion between adults? Maybe adult was too presumptuous? Or, more likely, reasoned debate is something that’s not permitted around these parts?

    • Bob June 17, 2016, 11:31 am

      Well Adam……
      I confess that I was surprised to learn, from your comments, that FEMA is operating in foreign countries. Or why else would these manuals, dealing with ops in foreign countries as you contend, include FEMA as one of the applicable agencies?

    • loupgarous October 21, 2016, 3:04 pm

      Adam, I was with you until that part of the new manual which named DHS and FEMA as agencies Army detention troops might have to work with. Of course, the Army could and perhaps should have been used when that surge of “unaccompanied children” (and I suspect we were all p’wned on that) from south of the border swept in two years ago to detain, house, feed and RETURN everyone, accompanied, child or not to their homelands.

      But FEMA and DHS are civilian agencies which don’t have responsibilities in the usual US Army areas of operation. The only real reason for listing them which isn’t ominous is the possibility that a National Guard unit has to establish overflow detention facilities in the case of civil unrest – in that case, the state governor is commander-in-chief of those troops, but they are still obliged to follow US DoD guidance on how to operate, aren’t they?

      The situation becomes ominous again when you consider that Mr. “I have a phone and a pen” can pick up his phone and Federalize any state’s National Guard that quickly, and declare a state of emergency to exist where and whenever he chooses with his pen. “State full of yahoos who won’t give up their guns? No problem, that’s what my phone and my pen are for.”

  • jay May 20, 2014, 8:42 am

    Just like Hitler did… change things gradually….
    Now all they need to do is redefine “terrorists”…

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/americans-are-military-targets-in-the-war-on-terror.html

  • Starla May 20, 2014, 6:26 am

    Re: the NDAA, it has made America into a war zone, a battlefield and we are the enemy combatants. The terms Terrorist and belligerent are not defined and can be acted upon by a whim of gov’t. please visit pandaunite.com and have your town/city approve the resolution against the NDAA. If cities, then states adopt this resolution, we can pressure gov’t to remove sections 1021 and 1022 from 2012 NDAA reauthorization.
    Something is up, we all know… but we are not given all the information so we really don’t know what is going on.
    History repeats itself.

  • j. boling May 20, 2014, 2:23 am

    “Daryl” seems upset about “FEMA camps,” and adds that we should “look it up.” Well, a friend of mine, in a moment of light humor, sent me the same link of which D. speaks, and there, for all the world to see, were the latitude and longitude coordinates for all the infamous “FEMA Camps.” According to that site, they were all newly-built, sitting vacant, and manned with skeleton crews to maintain them in perpetual readiness for the coming “mass round-ups.” Soooo, just for shits and giggles, I plugged in the coordinates for all the Georgia listings, and ran them through Google-Earth. Lo and behold! They are ALL (no exceptions) current Georgia State Prisons, most built in the ’70s and ’80s, and all in excess of their rated capacity, already. There is NO FEMA presence on the ground, and only hard-working Correctional Officers, employed by the State of Georgia, over-seeing the resident population. I suppose, under “Daryl-Rules,” the C.O.s will simply turn loose all the felons under their current control, run home to evacuate their own families, and leave the prisons for Phantom FEMA Squads to re-populate with civilians being rounded up whilly-nilly around the state. And, No, Mr. Administrator, I am NOT a shill for anyone, as you seem to want to label those who don’t agree with your outlandish and uninformed opinions. You, and others like you, showing your asses by subscribing to crap such as this article purports to be “fact,” are responsible for the negative view many have of all gun-owners and concerned citizens.

  • Don Tros May 20, 2014, 1:16 am

    Well, there was a big response to this. I’m not really sure where to start and don’t really want to write a long reply to the article or the replies.
    Some interesting things to think about through. I noticed some folks getting very excited when some of the remarks compared the Nazi’s to us, as if that is not even a possiblitity. But why isn’t it. First, most people know very little about the Nazi’s or the German population during that time. Also, besides the bits from the entertainment media, most know little about how the German Army had factions within it that resisted what was going on, but the Nazi’s had their “special internal army” to do much of the dirty work at home and aboard, when the Army personnel couldn’t stomuck the real dirty work. With that being said, have you been keeping up with the “internal army” (DHS), that we have built since 9/11?
    Then I noticed someone said something about they believed in the goodness of human nature! WOW, was that supposed to be a joke? The goodness of human nature? Talk about viewing history and the world with rose colored glasses. Don’t you know that that is part of the propaganda? Oh, people are really good at heart! Right! And another one similar, is, our govt. would never do that to us. Or that’s why there are 3 separate but equal branches of govt, so that would never happen! Look at every country from the beginning of recorded history. Or just look at the past 2000 years. How many governments have not killed their own people? Everyone of them. Germany, Italy, England, Norway, and the list goes on.
    So the question is, is our govt. planning for civilian unrest? You better believe they are. Are the training the U.S. military to help deal with it? Absolutely. A few years back, the ACLU (Not my favorite org) protested about the Army training battalions on “non-lethal” population control. Of course, most everyone ignored it.
    I guess in closing, is their anything we can do about it? Probably not. If they ever do decide to do what is suggested in the article, all of the yelling and screaming in the world, will not stop it. Also, neither will the “militia” because they are more than prepared for any armed uprisings that may occur! But for now, it gives folks stuff to talk about, and yes, it does help sell guns, ammo, and other prepper stuff! -:)

  • Surculus May 19, 2014, 9:53 pm

    Sorry, all I saw at “the link from 2008 you can still access” is a manual on how to run a POW camp, which if you think about it, the military will need from time to time. Whether or not the current administration plans to abuse Posse Comitatus by putting the military in charge of FEMA camps doesn’t matter, the operations manual the military uses for POWs wasn’t written with the _expectation_ that it would ever by used on U.S. citizens.

    So basically, a lot of fear-mongering going on in this blog post.

    • Don Dineen May 20, 2014, 12:39 am

      You have it. The FEMA camps will be managed by your county government with assistance from the state and feds. It is up to every county to adopt a plan, that meets national standards.
      Your counties already have identified where such camps will be, and negligent if they haven’t. Our county plan (and those of other places I lived) depend a great deal upon help from the community. Other than keeping people safe, healthy, and fed they know what needs to be done. If everyone follows the plan, disasters will have a lesser impact. All the people hating FEMA, should look at all the disasters we have had, and how FEMA comes to help. FEMA can do one thing really wrong, and that’s wasting money. The idea is get the stuff to the disaster, and over buy just in case.
      Some of “secret bases” are sites where mass quantities of medicine and hospital supplies are kept fresh. Tons of food are secured in Das Bunkers, so FEMA can feed people.
      I suspect the people that repeat this same article or version of it, have never belonged to an emergency service, nor read the local plan.

  • Donald Dineen May 19, 2014, 5:42 pm

    You do understand that every publication by the military is “classified”. A “classified” rating means it is not restricted, and is open for everyone to read.

  • Donald Dineen May 19, 2014, 4:12 pm

    Folks, You need to slow down on your fear of military manuals and FEMA manuals. You should be happy that these plans already exist and are not thrown together after the crisis hits. I would urge everyone to go to their county department of emergency management. Ask to see the county disaster plan.
    In the plan you will see they have anticipated how to supply people with food, shelter, medical care and sanitation.
    You will also see how they intend to deal with mass deaths. When people scream about having a pre-planned method of burying the dead they think the government is out to kill them, like our German relatives did in WW2.
    Isn’t it better that our military and civil defense planners know ahead of time how to do these tasks? I worked in law enforcement and emergency services most of my adult life. We were using similar “Civil defense” manuals like this in the 50-60s. Over the years your county and state joined with FEMA (and the military partners) to take care of WE THE PEOPLE.
    Where do you want “camps” for citizens, enemy prisoners, displaced persons (like a war zone)? Where and how do you suggest the dead be buried? Do you want a central temporary cemetery? Or just put uncle Ralph in the flower garden?
    Who do you go to, to bring food and cooking supplies? Do you hope the stuff arrives in 3 days and local schools and churches can help. I know our plan depended on schools and churches to assist.
    When the fear of a FEMA or an army manual discussing issues, too many people go over the edge. When I hear about “The Plan” to kill everyone, I just have to think “How dumb are these people”. I worked with these plans and people, none of them come up with such crazy ideas.
    Pre-planning. locating sites and sources is a good thing. If you fear the plan, go read it. Most places can now give your a copy on a disc.
    Now where do I bury uncle Ralph?

    • Administrator May 19, 2014, 4:21 pm

      The shills always show up en masse. This one is replete with his own Langley issued fake internet identity.

      • Donald Dineen May 19, 2014, 5:46 pm

        @Administrator, So silly. If you think these plans are so secret and hidden plans to kill the public, you are like many simply not thinking with a full deck. Had you ever served in the military or police-fire-EMS, you would know that these plans are open source and everyone can read them. Did you know, we even had similar plans 100 years ago?
        Well, if telling the truth is being a shill, that’s me. The nuts claiming these are great conspiracies are just shrill.

  • King Ferdinand II of Argon May 19, 2014, 3:14 pm

    This is BS.

    Has it ever occurred to them how many firearms there in America? Legacy/private firearms the government knows nothing about? How well educated most Americans are? The number of veterans who are trained to use their ‘wonder weapons’ against the government? These ‘rules’ wouldn’t work.

    Arrest enough people and you will piss off enough other, armed people who will de-arrest the people. People who are afraid of the US military need to remember that our army got its butts handed to them by illiterate, untrained, unorganized insurgents, with improvised weapons for 8 years in Iraq and are still getting their butts handed to them in Afghanistan, before they will be forced out by the same people we thought needed our ‘help.’

    I am not worried.

  • gonzo May 19, 2014, 1:55 pm

    I’ve read most of the comments (they are very repetitive) and most of the them cite the protection of the Constitution –
    but they forget the Constitution has ZERO POWER if the people do not enforce it. it’s a piece of paper – that’s all!
    The power of the Constitution comes from from those who are willing say”this point and no further” and die defending that point.
    Are you one of those? I AM.

    • R H May 20, 2014, 7:39 pm

      Thank You!

  • Ray May 19, 2014, 1:20 pm

    It’s interesting that the people who say; This is propaganda! It could never happen here! Repeat almost word for word the voices of the SS spokes people for the Nazi party in the 1930’s. The republic died the day that the patriot act and the NDAA were signed. As of right now you and I have no “rights” of any kind , that any member of the military or law enforcement are bound to respect. ANY member of the military or law enforcement, can, under orders, steal your property. Take you and your family away in the night without charge, and put to death without trial or hearing. To say anything else is propaganda and an outright lie. You “patriots” in government service defending the status quo, ARE NAZI’s . Ministry of propaganda death camp guards. Just remember this in twenty years when the photos of you throwing babies in the ovens are published. Hell you can always say “I was just following orders” at your trial.

  • tom May 19, 2014, 11:57 am

    First you say the military can not be used …
    then you say BUT the national guard can…
    The national guard IS the Military
    Do you understand what a military is?

    • Phinneus May 19, 2014, 4:42 pm

      While you are all focusing on the National Guard, etc and what is or is not ‘military’ ,no one seems aware that our Kenyanb in Chief has included in the ‘affordable care act’ a section that authorizes the recruitment, training, and outfitting private citizens for his private army, that is completley under the control of the President. 50 million a month is authorized spending for these ‘troops’ to be trained and outfitted. They may be called to active duty by the president for any duties at home or abroad, at any time. NO ONE needs to approve any of this. It was buried in the 29,000 pages of this act and I guess NancyPelosi did not get to that part! Of course I am making this up ,many will scream.. Go to and read section 5210 of the affordable care act, google ‘obamas private army’ as well.
      Then ron and others tellus we have nothing to fear!

    • Don May 22, 2014, 6:23 pm

      Remember to keep them separate.

      Regular military: under president. Paid for service.

      National Guard: under governor, able to be federalized. Not to be confused with militia. Paid for service.

      State Guard-Militia: under governor, can not be federalized. All unpaid volunteers, with loser standards.

  • paul May 19, 2014, 11:15 am

    The more I see about this and the way the US is centralizing it’s military contractors, the more I feel that they are worries about germ warfare. Assuming that said warfare is designed to incapacitate people (therefore taking more people out of defense), the idea of internment camps work. The people in government and the rich have places to go just in case. This is for the little people that just might be collateral damage. Of course they want to contain you, they don’t want to cause a zombie problem, they will just put us all together and let God sort us out.

    Be afraid, be very afraid!

  • JGreeley May 19, 2014, 11:09 am

    I think it is worthy to note that there was a request for a program to allow PSYOP workers to be able to control up to 50 online profiles each that would all appear different from each other. The purpose was to control the narrative on comment boards such as this one.
    They do have a plan for you. It may or may not play out but be assured the people running this country do not intend to lose their power. If killing or imprisoning a portion of the citizenry to get the others to fall in line that is just what they will do. The soldiers will absolutely follow their orders to capture or kill those who resist. That is because the “rebels” will have been dehumanized and vilified in the media (online, television, radio, etc) via various types of propaganda that it is very easy to “other” them.

  • Dan Quinn May 19, 2014, 10:53 am

    Ron makes a point, but leaves out the ability of the Federal Government to mobilize Homeland Security as a domestic police force during Martial Law. If Martial Law is declared then the Executive Order signed by Obama in February 2013 will take effect and the entire country comes under his control. Read the Order. We do have something to worry about – we have given the Government too much power and authority.

    • Don May 19, 2014, 9:05 pm

      Homeland Security is domestic civilian law enforcement. Why don’t you know that? Did you know that there are many deputy US martials serving in local police departments. Most are senior LEOs, with additional training. Many of them are located along known drug trafficking routes. The feds don’t have enough officers to conduct operations in much of small town and rural America. The feds need manpower, even if it is just to control vehicle and foot traffic around the targeted place of interest. Federal laws on search and seizure are looser than some states. When the locals use their US Deputy Martial credentials, it often would not be allowed under state law. I have never worried about it. I never saw it abused where I worked. I have seen excessive and abusive federal actions. Poor leadership like at Whidbey Island, Waco and Ruby Ridge.

  • Daryl May 19, 2014, 9:57 am

    I have a copy of this manual and have had it for quite awhile. One more thing for you people that don’t believe this is to type in your browser, FEMA Camps in the United States, and it will open your eyes. I took an oath back in the middle sixties when I joined the military (volunteered) and that oath is in force till I die and as you can see that I am not dead so I still have to live up to it. It is about time Americans wake up and stand tall and prepare to fight. It is always better to be ready than imprisoned or dead.

    • C. R. Sherrick May 19, 2014, 11:33 am

      There is a lot of hype around today and not very pleasant to read. A point made in a college course I took was you should read what you don’t agree with just so you are informed and there maybe a nugget of truth tucked in amongst all the words you do not agree with. There are several large train yards near my home , I suggest the next time you pass one to look for the train cars that are used to transport autos .Over the years they have become completely enclosed with small entry doors to access the inside of the car, with the ends being closed also.I have noted over the past few years the numbers of these cars I see have grown huge ,with one track full lasting several miles long sitting empty in the rail yard. All the Fema Camps I have seen pictures of have rail access. I think we need to alert and have a contingency plan. How much of this is true and what the game plan is can be judged against what just happened in Nevada .

      • Don May 20, 2014, 3:38 am

        Where I lived, we did not have train track access. None of the ARNGHUS facilities. Original was set up near schools in a residential area. The replacement was sited 10 miles away in a rural setting, so advanced features like a bunker could be built. Where I live now the train tracks have been removed around 20 years ago. Guard members need to drive 50 miles to a facility.
        Car carrier train cars are covered more to limit vandalism. If they were easy to access, thieves would strip part. This makes it harder/
        Camp sites are mostly school grounds and athletic fields. We also have hundreds of miles of tunnels with needed fixtures and a radiation block,
        The biggest need for FEMA is after natural disasters. Tornados, Hurricanes, ice/winter storms and flooding. FEMA is made up of a few fulltime troops (civilians) and many local people. Ask your doctor is he has a position with FEMA. They do.

  • Concerned Citizen May 19, 2014, 9:05 am

    You guys don’t really believe the Iranian terrorist are gonna be bombing Grandma’s house here do you? Nobody is going to invade this country, it will fall from within. Study some of the recent laws that have been passed NDAA, and ex orders passed down from on high. The legal framework is already in place to do whatever the government wants to do to the general populace. All is needed is the right excuse to do it. The big one people will believe. Economic collapse is included.

    Do a little more digging, do some research and study some history and you might be surprised at what is really going on. If you believe what is being passed down through the ranks of the military and only that, well you will be one of those firing on the citizens, and guess how that will end.

    There is a control grid being laid out, economical, logistics, electronic. The government needs to know what all I’m doing all the time? Uh, no they don’t. They don’t need to know what you are doing, either.

    If you are in the service to the United States, and you are reading this and blindly follow the regime that is in place now, understand that you will become the enemy to your brothers and sister veterans that came before you. Why do you think that veterans that are returning from service are being demonized by the government?

    Keep this in mind, no guerrilla force has ever been defeated, not in history.

    • Don Dineen May 19, 2014, 6:23 pm

      Concerned Citizen, We have been attacked by Islamists. Thousands died. Other Islamists have tried to do more damage, some failed some made it. Who would have thought a couple of Chechen punks would have blown up bombs along the Boston Marathon route?
      We have had huge bombs planted, and fail, like the Times Square bomber.
      We had Portland Oregon government workers planning attacks, only to get discovered by a Washington state deputy sheriff.
      We have also seen attacks by the white power Christian Identity church movement. Several bomb attacks in NE Washington State by neo-nasties. Recently, a white power terrorist tried to bomb the MLK day parade. He was fortunately stopped ahead of time, and his device was crude.
      Expect innocent people to be killed by Iranian (or any Islamic country) sympathizers. It happens, and it might be grandmas house that gets taken down. I suggest grandma not live next to any prime target.
      Nearly 300 people were hurt by two brothers from a former Soviet province. It could have been grandma getting blown up. In fact I bet in the wounded there were a few grandmas and grandpas.

      • Administrator May 19, 2014, 7:06 pm

        Donald? Who names their kid Donald?

        • Don Dineen May 19, 2014, 8:35 pm

          You are concerned that my parents named me “Donald”. Seriously, that is a pretty silly thing to point at. Why would you need to trace me? What have I said that isn’t true. You nuts suggesting this manual is somehow ill advised, are simple minded fools.
          Too bad our gun world is saturated with seriously ignorant people. This issue has been raised for decades. I retired 12 years ago and other than refining the material, it is pretty much as it was in 1955. I have our current manual, it is well written and makes sense, unless of course you are a conspiracy nut.

  • DrThunder88 May 19, 2014, 8:18 am

    I like how “FEMA” has become such a buzzword that, despite its tangential relevance to the manual in question, it has to be brought up to show everyone how serious this is. “Army doctrine on internment and relocation of U.S. citizens? How banal. Oh, FEMA ‘…may be involved in I/R missions…’? To arms! Also that Red Cross is looking hella shady.”

    I agree with other commenters, Swineheart at the fore. This is a serious subject that’s treated with histrionics to the point that it becomes self-parody. I literally laughed out loud at “Concentration camp tatoos of course. (sic)” Come on, why not hit another buzzword and suggest they’d inject RFID implants instead of apparently trying to narrowly skirt Godwin’s Law? I guess it segues nicely into the obvious invocation in the train-bit, but it’s still rather shameful.

    Shame is not limited to the timbre of the article. The analysis itself is as weak as one’s purity of essence after drinking fluoridated water. Items like the force continuum are treated like they’re some sort of horrific abominations, never before seen outside the pages of this Necronomiconic training manual. The fact is, that continuum (or one staggeringly similar to it) should be familiar to police and corrections officers across the country. I’m neither and I recognized it. There’s no mention of how it only connects “lethal” behavior with “deadly force”. It is sufficient for this article to say, “They are planning for things to escalate to deadly force.” I guess by that metric, I am too. Also, read your “Connection is untrusted” screen again. I looked and looked but couldn’t find any mention of someone “…intercepting your secure connection.” All I see is that either the Army website’s security certificate is faulty or your system is. Don’t get me wrong, they know your IP address, they’d know that anyway since it’s how the Internet works, but all that screen is telling you is that their security info isn’t what Firefox is expecting.

    The worst part of this article is that people are either going to take it seriously or not take it seriously. Paranoid lunatics will be increasingly confident upon finding an echo to their deranged rantings, and people who should be skeptical of the government will instead be cynical toward such skepticism. The best case scenario is that no one reads it. My suggestion to GunsAmerica is to publish work from people who will present topics without looking like fools, and leave us fools to wax idiotic in the comments.

    • Don May 19, 2014, 8:57 pm

      Excellent comments. Too bad GunsAmerica repeated this silly article and point of view.

  • foxtrot May 19, 2014, 7:58 am

    I agree with you fully, Ronald. I thought a lot of the same things. As a former service member, I’m quite familiar with the horrors of military manuals. Mind numbing and definitely capable of producing suicidal/homicidal thoughts lol. Obviously I’m joking but seriously this article did seem like a bunch of hype and fear mongering. I’m as reluctant to trust the government as any reasonable citizen of this country should be at this point in time, but I still have some faith in humanity, and especially in my brothers-in-arms. I’d really like to think that most of our troops would tell their OICs to get fucked if they had their morning formations and heard “today we are going to implement martial law and detain innocent American citizens.” Obviously it won’t go down quite so simply, but you get the point. This site is starting to get a bit too much for me, and I’m thinking that continued association with it is gonna end up with me on someone’s list somewhere.

    • W. R. May 19, 2014, 1:17 pm

      I share your sentiments foxtrot, and as an Oath Taker myself, my blank check is still valid. Sadly you’re tits up on the issue of lists. We’re all on someone’s list. AND THAT INCLUDES THE PEOPLE MAKING THOSE LISTS.

      You know, that goose and gander thing………… /;-)

  • Eric Spear May 19, 2014, 7:00 am

    I served 24 years in the U.S. Army. I totally agree with what Ron says. That be said, I’m still preparing for any contingencies.

    • Grumpus June 17, 2016, 8:45 am

      ThankYou for your service.
      My question is this. If you were included in a group think-tank charged with working on plans to ensure “continuity of government” in a major catastrophic event, what major issues would be addressed? This question is specific as to “continuity of government” not so much as the FEMA related issues of handling the general populace.
      Thanks

  • Scott May 19, 2014, 6:39 am

    Ron, thanks for your comment. I doubt in the event of civil unrest or enemy invasion if you are breaking no laws and don’t want to go the govt would be more than happy to let you fend for yourself. With that said the people that do get housed in these places for criminal or just housing purposes (like grannie who’s house got blown up) are going to have to be dealt with. That’s why I train in marksmanship and hand to hand combat because in the event of catastrophe I want to be an asset.

  • Travis Hutchins May 19, 2014, 6:11 am

    I agree with Ron on most your points, but all across America I have seen brand new National Guard (mini bases) built or being built. In my area we never had an NG base prior to 1990. They took over an abandoned CVS store while the new base was built. We are in a rural setting 40 miles outside of Atlanta. If you take a closer look, all across America in the last 20 years the NG has bases that have sprang up everywhere! This is what scares me to the core! Something to seriously think about or not.

    • Don Dineen May 19, 2014, 8:29 pm

      Most of the Army National Guard facilities are tired. The army is upgrading them to meet current needs. building them out of the heavily populated areas, which enhances how they can build the base. When I was growing up our local guard unit was in couple of buildings surrounded by schools. The buildings did not meet any modern codes. There were no bunkers and no range.
      Our new facility (35 years ago) was built in a rural area, was modern, secure and had underground facilities. Fallout shelters, range, medical area, an armory.
      When I served in the NG (after being in the Navy) we had to drive 50 miles from our facility just to get our rifles, pistols, heavy machine guns and missile launchers (TOWS). We did not have local access to guns.
      We were sited at an old cold war missile position, with inadequate security. What has driven much of the building is to allow better access to the items needed in case of a disaster.

  • Ron May 19, 2014, 6:03 am

    This is such bullshit. I’m probably going to cancel this web site because of the contribution to fear-mongering. The mentality of the average person sucks this up and they pass it on. Us intelligent people find this off-putting.

    • deanbob May 19, 2014, 9:35 am

      How does presenting information contribute to fear mongering? It is sad to believe that many (most/all?) of our founding fathers would be detained for committing acts against the government. It just shows how far we have moved from the liberties we once had.

      • Donald Dineen May 19, 2014, 5:57 pm

        What do you mean our founding fathers could be detained for committing acts against the government? Our founding fathers were detained, hanged and executed for act against the Crown. They knew they could be deprived of everything by revolting against the lawful British government. King George didn’t like our rebels.

  • 1st Sgt L K Johnson U S Army Ret May 19, 2014, 5:51 am

    Back in 1961 I signed a blank check payable up to and including my life to defend the United States of America, THAT AIN’T CHANGED ONE DAMNED BIT AND THE CHECK IS STILL GOOD!

    • ALL AMERICAN May 19, 2014, 12:10 pm

      Amen, Top!

    • Sgt (E5) 19E Retired May 19, 2014, 8:25 pm

      HOOAAHH!! Count me in Top Kick I’ll show those A$$Wipes a new way to hurt!

  • Ronald Swinehart May 13, 2014, 9:50 pm

    I am quite freedom loving, and am sworn to protect and defend the constitution. However, I think this article is feeding a false source of hysteria. First, no matter what I am doing on a military website, I am required to login with my ID card or password. The government doesn’t want 8 trillion people getting on the already crappy network and crashing the website. It does a good enough job of that on its own. Secondly, the military can’t be used to enforce laws in the United States, that would be a violation of the constitution, however, the National Guard can. Next, drawing all these parallels from Army procedures to Nazi procedures are quite a stretch. Just because railcars are listed as a possible means of transportation, doesn’t mean that is the ultimate or “final solution.” When the government makes plans, the arduous and repetitive process we must use is mind numbing, and makes us all want to kill ourselves. We are forced to list every possibility imaginable, even when it comes to doing a risk management process on wiping our asses. The distinction between detainee types is an important legal consideration. P.O.W.’s are operating on behalf of a government, usually military. A civilian detainee would not be housed with a P.O.W. You wouldn’t want grandma who is staying in the camp because her house got blown up staying with the Iranian commando who set the charge. Now, I say all this fully knowing that I will catch some heat. I also am not saying this can’t happen. Many countries that disarmed its people then proceeded to genocide. I would sum this all up in two points. 1. Picking out random parts of any document and making outrageous claims is not beneficial to our cause. It makes us look like idiots. Like the use of force continuum, that’s found in any law enforcement or military operations manual. Just because it’s there it doesn’t mean they will kill us if we don’t vote for Obama 2. If we want to keep this from happening a. buy more guns b. vote pro-freedom

    Thanks,

    Ron

    • Robert May 19, 2014, 9:38 am

      Just what do you think the National Guard, Coast Guard and the Air Force National Guard are, if they aren’t military?
      And the Reserves for that matter.
      The government’s website crashing? That’s the excuse? If this plan is so innocent and really is in the best interest of the people of this country, why keep it a secret. I would think that it would be a political bonus or plus to put it out there for the American people to appreciate.

      • Robert Mowery May 29, 2014, 11:22 pm

        I don’t know what they are but I do know what a Marine is. there are a lot of us here where I live. We won’t give up our weapons period end of sentence!!!! we”re all armed and always ready. Bring it on.

    • Patriot-Research May 19, 2014, 11:51 am

      Ron, sorry your wrong…NDAA allows for U.S. Miltary (illegally) to operate on American soil..!!! NDAA has a number of directives that are in Clear Violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights…which means any Soldier, Officer, Nation Guard, or even Civilian Police Officer that follows NDAA are committing TREASON, and they will be held ACCOUNTALBE for their TREASONOUS ACTIONS…!!! OAS start this past weekend and Phase 1 of “We the People” taking our Nation back has started…PEOPLE its now or Never, and don’t let the Commie/Cronies tell you that it failed because they are wrong! They make stupid statements like only 10 to 100 people showed-up…WRONG, thousand had come and are still coming, “We the People” are not leaving until OB, Biden, Holder, Reid, Polosi, McConnell, and Boehner are gone…PERIOD..!!! OB started this Civil War II back on Oct 13, 2013 at the WWII Vet Memorial when he sent his Military Police after disabled Vets at the WWII Vet Memorial and at the WH…!!! The American People better wake-up and fast, OB has already declared War on “We the People” and OB’s Military Police are already killing innocent American Citizen allover our Nation for no other reason then to kill (mostly Conservatives) to gain control and brainwash the People to follow orders while there homes are invaded, Guns are illegally confiscated, and you and your family ar marched right into the nearest Fema re-education Camp…!!! God Help us, PLEASE!

    • Donald Dineen May 19, 2014, 5:54 pm

      Excellent comments. The loons bring this up at least once per year. This is an updated version of a WW2 manual. It is much clearer than previous manuals. The National Guard and reserves are part of the US Army (or Marines, Navy or AF). The state militia units, each state has a militia act, are not subject to being federalized. In time of disaster, the Guard can be used under the control of the governor. The state militias are under the direction of the governor, and can not be federalized. There in lies a huge difference. Some states don’t have much of a militia. Some call them “State Police Reserves”, and they are expected to take over the duties of the NG if the NG is federalized and removed from the state to fight offshore.
      Too many of the gun people, are easily sent into panic mode when they read a manual. I’d be much more worried if the military didn’t have set plans and policies. Without guidance, people tend to lose control. Most offenses are committed by under trained troops with no guidance.

      • R H May 20, 2014, 7:23 pm

        Sorry but in 1903 the militia act put the prez in charge of the new ng. I do remember in new orleans troops said they would shoot americans if ordered. Some of my friends said they would follow orders even if it violates the constitution. Your so smart Im sure you have read Garden Plot. God Help Us!

    • Mone Garand May 19, 2014, 9:41 pm

      What about the Tea Party Patriot, who happens to be a Vet prepared to defend the Constitution he swore to uphold, but now is labeled as an extremist, or worse, terrorist? What the US military cannot by law do, FEMA and all the other alphabet soup agencies certainly can. And who exactly trains these agencies? They operate under what authority, exactly? Active duty military may not act under those circumstance, but once a citizen is labeled terrorist, the rules of engagement and the status autimatically change and the arbitration of rules for engagement change by category under a different format by which any federal agency may engage, including the military. You alluded to as much in your own assessment. Drone attacks on American citizens are not imaginary, and have happened, by the US Military. By what authority did that occur exactly, and by whom?

      • Don Dineen May 20, 2014, 12:49 am

        Drone attacks on US citizens? Former US citizens. When a former citizens swears allegiance to an enemy, that person has renounced their citizenship. They are enemy combatants. Any one with the Sovereign Citizen movement that have formally gone before a judge to declare their independence, no longer has the right to own a gun, drive on public highways, vote or enjoy other benefits of citizenship.
        Some raghead in Yemen that has gone to war with America can be targeted. Especially, when the host government gives its approval. When have domestic terrorists ever been blasted by a Hellfire missile? The US government has abused its powers against the citizens of the US. Very bad form at Waco and Ruby Ridge. Did that make OKC a legitimate target? Not in my view.

        • Jack May 22, 2014, 10:00 am

          I don’t comprehend your point since we have over 20 million illegal aliens in this country enjoying the rights and doing just what you say the Sovereign Citizen that have gone before a judge and declared their independence can not do.

          • Don May 22, 2014, 3:55 pm

            Jack,
            Illegal aliens can’t lawfully do those things. A sovereign citizen, upon renouncing his or her citizenship voluntarily, accepts that under our laws they can not own firearms LAWFULLY.
            Driving isn’t a right, it is a privilege licensed by the state. Sovereign citizens choose not to pay vehicle license fees and obtain drivers licenses. Without either it is unlawful to operate vehicles on public roadways. Without those things, you can’t buy insurance. Both illegal aliens and SCs simply don’t care. Driving around their own back 40 is OK. Renouncing ones US citizenship is really a dumb thing to do.
            I got a kick out of seeing them trying to buy guns. If they were truthful, they were sent packing. That was pre-’98 NICS times. Now they show up in databases. Non-citizens, unable to even get an aliens firearms license, because they are stateless.

    • Delta May 20, 2014, 6:42 pm

      Gee whiz Ron, gosh, wonder why the current regime is reducing our military personnel but at the same time trying to recruit illegal immigrants. That’s just one. You are intelligent but naive.

    • AL December 30, 2014, 6:49 pm

      I was in Pgh. during the riots when Martin L King was shot and the 101st airborne was brought in. The govt. can and WILL do all that they feel is necessary to protect the “special people” and do and say whatever to carry it out. Just like the civil war when Lincoln made it about race and not about too much govt. They will lie to suit their wants and needs.

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