Remington RP9 is a Fugly Piece of S**t – Clay’s Full Review.

(LANGUAGE ALERT – Because some things can only be said with swear words.)

To find out more, visit https://www.remington.com/handguns/remington-rp/rp9.
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Once in a great while, something comes along that turns an entire industry on its head. Truly game changing technology that flows together in a way previously unthinkable, and has the competition scrambling to catch up. Something so outside of the box, it forces you to reconsider everything you know about the subject. A paradigm shift, as it were. This is not one of those times.

I did not like the combination of a long and skinny grip paired up with a large and bulky slide.

Remington has not had a stellar run in pistols recently, and they were likely really looking to turn that around with the RP9. A big marketing push and garnering high praise from all manner “experts,” it seems like everyone has lined up to kiss the ring of Big Green. Well, I have bad news for you, folks. The RP9 is probably the worst pistol I have ever seen come to market in a long time—including the R51 in that statement.

Off the Reservation 6 said it best when I brought the box home for this RP9 review. Unprompted, when I pulled the lid off, she said, “ You don’t even have to take it out of the box to know you don’t want it.” We aren’t talking about aesthetics here either. Most modern guns aren’t what you would call pretty. That is kind of how it’s done now: function over form, and I fully support that. I am talking about design flaws you can see from across the room, or probably outer space.

The slide appeared to be cut for a .45 ACP-sized gun, which made it huge for a 9mm.

Get A Grip

To start with, the grip. Remington says it was sized to fit 95% of shooters. If that is true, they must have measured hands at Willie Wonka’s Chocolate factory. From front to rear, the grip is narrower than a 1911. Then, in circumference, they had to make it big enough to take a double stack 9mm magazine. The overall effect is that the grip feels almost perfectly round, and entirely too small to boot. There isn’t enough frame to hang onto. “Well wait a minute Clay”, you might say, “ maybe for you. But you’re part gorilla.” (And part guerrilla, believe that shit!) True, but I do not have abnormally large hands, much to the disappointment of many of my dates in the past. To be fair, it also doesn’t fit my wife’s hands, and she is 5’2”. Or anyone else of various sizes and shapes I asked about the grip in the two weeks I’ve had it.

The next marketing claim on this gun is that it is better since it has an 18+1 capacity. I will buy that; more is better with bullets. In fact, that was one of the big selling points on the original G17. It held 17 in a time when most 9mm pistols held 15. The way Remington accomplished this is insane, though. Hold an RP9 magazine up next to a Glock, Smith, or Springfield Armory magazine. The RP9 is about one 9mm round longer. Neat trick huh? Add to that fact, the rear of the backstrap hangs well below the grip, which is the only way they get a “flush fit.” This is absolutely, 100%, just marketing B.S. If a new XDm came out with 30 +1 capacity, but it’s grip was so long it fit a 170mm race magazine, we would laugh them out of the room. Be serious, Remington.

Note the large bulk of the RP9 slide on the left, particularly when compared against the Glock at right.

By far the worst part of this gun is how it handles. The slide is gigantic for a 9mm; it actually looks like a Hi-Point straight blowback pistol. Add to this the tiny grip, and you get one of the worst shooting packages I have ever used. It feels like a 10-pound sledgehammer, with a butter knife for a handle. The recoil of all the reciprocating mass of the slide makes this gun very hard to control, in 9mm, for a guy that shoots handguns all the time.

The trigger isn’t bad on this gun, if you don’t mind overtravel. Lots of it. I think they found the overtravel the other polymer guns got rid of in the last two decades, and slapped it right in. Every last drop. This trigger features at least a quarter inch of overtravel, if not more.

Remington made the grip really long to fit the 18-round magazine. Image courtesy of Remington.

Devil’s In The Details

It does get worse, though. Some of the other YouTube videos I have now watched bring some other problems to light. Number one, in this “fully ambidextrous pistol,” the left-hand slide release is cosmetic only. Seriously, it doesn’t even pretend to work. If I was a leftie and had purchased this, I would be pissed. It also shows that Remington didn’t even remotely test this feature before they put it on shelves. It’s not 1987 anymore, we have the internet. To think you weren’t going to get taken to task for this is arrogant and foolish. Bad form Remington.

Number two, multiple reviewers got guns that are not reliable. Some guys have had problems with the first magazine, and at least one forced an entire case of ammo through his gun, and still had failures to extract. As I said, I’m not wasting more bullets on a 3rd rate handgun to find out. But this is a very real problem.

All in all, I am calling this the worst product release I have ever seen. Remington needs to recall all of these guns, bury them in the desert like the Atari E.T. game, and go back to something they do well. I have seen a Makarov with a rusty nail for a firing pin that I trust more than this RP9.

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The RP9 magazine (at top) was able to hold 18 rounds by simply being longer than comparable 9mm magazines.

{ 243 comments… add one }
  • RIcky November 17, 2017, 3:16 pm

    This gun is a piece of shit, Remington should be embarrassed. The gun is ugly as sin and bulky. The RP9 reminds me of an upscale hi-point.

    • Dave November 19, 2017, 8:37 pm

      what an idiot I bought one this weekend Brownells big sale after rebate $189 shot 100 rounds no problems I have small hands changed grip inserts fits great one mans trash is another’s treasure

  • Lanova_Cell November 11, 2017, 11:15 pm

    Never seen such and unprofessional, negatively biased review on any firearm.
    Clay needs to pull his head out of his ass and at least attempt being objective.
    I could trash (insert manufacturer) just cause I don’t like em, but then the review would be nothing more than verbal diahrrea…….Hey Clay, maybe if your diahrrea continues it’ll free your head up.
    Lost any respect for your too tight shirt wearing “ass hat” after this one.

    • RIcky November 17, 2017, 3:13 pm

      Wow Lanova I’ve never seen such butt hurt about a gun review. Clay was right when he said this gun was a piece of shit. You are without a doubt an airhead. You are upset with him for being “unprofessional” and expecting him to be objective and professional but, your reply was very juvenile and quite frankly “unprofessional”. Get thicker skin cupcake, if a review bothers you that bad you need to get a life.

  • rk cohen November 7, 2017, 8:17 pm

    interesting commentary.
    my rp9 is in a holster now having replaced an old b92 – which used to be in the other side of the room… my side shelters my gen 1 g21.
    and I really enjoy both of them!
    ref the grip – my hands are not so big – at 6’4″ I can palm a basketball – so you figure out how big my hands are. this mentioned only because my s&w 25-5 wears custom cullina grips, my 475 linebaugh has the jrh grip mod with associated grip panels made to fit my hand… my gen 1 glock? it wears a hogue handall as does my backup lc9 and the grip on my ptr91 with its’ navy grip….
    so what was that all about? don’t sweat grip sizes – everyone’s hands are different sizes and there are 100 ways to make the gun fit your hand!
    interestingly for those who think the rp9 slide release doesn’t work – it doesn’t have one!
    looking through the manual you can find the “slide stop” and how to work the slide! amazing – text and pictures too!!
    it has digested everything my b92 did without fanfare.
    probably not in the same category as my beautiful browning hi-power when it comes to looks – but at its’ price point and with its’ positive function – it’s now my frau’s “go-to” packing pistol for the woodland excursions…
    it re-defines “value added..”

  • Hondo1 September 22, 2017, 6:29 am

    I bought one of these back in July. I bought it so I would have something less expensive to shoot than the 45 acp or the 45lc. It was on sale for a $300 with $50 rebate from remington. I didn’t watch any reviews until after the purchase. Gotta admit, I got a little nervous when I watched this one. Didn’t take long to figure out, no matter how well the gun performed, this site was not going to give it any credit. The gun shoots very well. I have had a few jamming issues that easily corrected by simply putting 16 rounds in the magazine instead of 18. I wouldn’t recommend this for your go to gun for conceal carry or service sidearm. But…….. for a gun to take to the range for some target practice and just have some fun , it’s perfect. Comparing it to a HiPoint, is total bulls#$t. I very shot those “bricks with triggers” and there is no comparison. For me this gun works very well. A few of my die hard glock, sig sauer, and springfield buddies have tried it and actually liked it. 2 of them purchased th rp9, within a couple days after trying. Great gun to tote around in the truck during hunting season or just save some wear and tear on the more expensive shooters. Good gun for the money. Wouldn’t mind seeing an improvement in the design of the magazine. Lee

  • Ron June 10, 2017, 10:01 pm

    I bought one of these and think it’s a great gun. Have not had one problem with it. As for ugly that’s all a matter of opinion. The only one thing in this article I agree with is about the slide stop release on the right side. This is not an issue for me but see how it could be for a lefty. My opinion, great gun, accurate, easy to field strip and clean, dependable, great value and I would recommend it.

    • Hondo1 September 22, 2017, 6:31 am

      Agreed!

  • Krp57 February 2, 2017, 10:04 pm

    The profanity means nothing. The complaining is a diversion. Nobody cares if you are offended. If you are worried about the kids reading this? You are delusional.
    The point is this …..It’s a review….. Of a pistol….And no matter how it was accomplished ? Clay is right. Remington has, And is, Producing garbage. And has been doing this for sometime now. And ruining other companies bought by the group. Myself ? I have not bought anything including ammo from Remington in 10 years or more. Unless, It’s a gently used rifle or shotgun at least 25 to 30 years old. Face the facts. Remington is junk, And anything they touch, Turns to junk also. If you are smart? Collect vintage Remingtons, And the other companies firearms that they have purchased. Look for the Pre-Remington firearms, These will be the ” Pre-64’s” of the future.
    Congrats to Paul. You have my respect for backing Clay’s review, It’s refreshing to find a man with stones. Style, Should not be a issue here. Honesty is.
    Opinion………… We have become a bunch of gun snobs. I don’t like plastic on a firearm…Period. And refuse to buy one. And I don’t give a rats ass what you shoot. As long as you shoot it well, Safely, Within the legal restraints of the law in self-defense. In short, With the responsibility that owning and using a weapon demands. When you don’t ? You give us all a black eye, And make us look like a bunch of backwoods, sister fucking, Idjits…………………

    • Randall Wall November 3, 2017, 4:51 pm

      You say they are producing crap yet you haven’t bought one or used one or anything Remington in more than 10 years? Yours is an “unqualified” opinion. I think I would weigh those that have actually shot one a littler more than yours..

  • Machavelli February 1, 2017, 10:00 am

    Heyyy! I have owned a Mak since ’91 and carry it every day. My poor man’s PPK has never failed to fire. The only misfire I saw in it was when some nancy limp wristed the action to chamber the first round. Mine is a ’61 East German model. I also have a ’62 Bulgarian. I like old and simple! Does Remington still even make a good shotgun anymore?

    • American USMC February 2, 2017, 9:20 pm

      Hey Remington doesn’t make a good anything. I bought a R1 1911 VERY displeased with it,serious hammer bite and you have to buy Remington magazines. Sold it and bought a real 1911 made by COLT.

      • BillyDee March 1, 2017, 7:28 pm

        I disagree, no experience at all with hammer bite. I bought a Chip McCormick 8 round mag from my local ffl and a generic 10 round mag from Amazon. They both run perfectly. My R1 is a pleasure to shoot. Never had a failure to feed or eject. I use standard Federal, Winchester, and Remington ammo with absolutely zero problems. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend the R1.

      • Ron May 20, 2017, 6:06 pm

        I have to disagree, I have one and is a great gun.

  • Dave Brown February 1, 2017, 1:16 am

    Clay, very refreshing to see a review that is actually critical of the product! It seems to me that most TV and print reviews say good things about every single new gun, scope, or accessory introduced. They are so beholden to their advertisers that their reviews become useless for really evaluating a possible purchase. Another good source of honest opinions is “Gun Tests” magazine, who don’t accept commercial advertising. Thanks for your time, effort, and honest opinion!

    • Ronopi May 20, 2017, 6:08 pm

      Opinion is the key word here. I think it’s a great gun but that’s my opinion.

      • Robert Gardner May 22, 2017, 7:00 pm

        I love My Rp9

        • Robert Gardner May 22, 2017, 7:01 pm

          And it retails for $399.00

    • Mark July 10, 2017, 1:10 am

      I bought a new RP9 and it shoots very well. The grip being smaller is a huge advantage for my small hands plus it comes with three backstraps. The shooter’s hand rides high and comfortably with less felt recoil. The 45 sized slide is shared with the popular 1911 that has a 45 sized slide for smaller calibers. The magazines are great and the comparison in the review is not measured correctly. This is a terrible review. 250 bucks, go buy a new Glock or M&P for that.

  • Kris January 31, 2017, 10:38 pm

    My first thought when I saw this gun was…”Oh look! Remington had Hi-Point design a pistol for them.” Side note, I’ve nothing against Hi-Point. I still have one I bought in Va back in the late ’90s for something like $85. It’s a fine inexpensive range toy. But I don’t buy $500 range toys with the ergonomics of a porcupine. IMO the review left out some info it should have included but it was pretty clear the reviewer pretty much made up his mind as soon as he saw the firearm…and I don’t much blame him. As to the language that was used that so many complained about…I felt a lot of it was unnecessary but at 60 I’ve heard it all before-thousands of times so I really just can’t get my knickers in a twist about it.

    As for the gun…not interested AT ALL. If it cost the same as a Hi-Point then I might have to buy one for a cheap range toy. For $500 or anywhere near that? NFW.

  • Corey January 31, 2017, 10:20 pm

    Yeah I’ll pass on this one as well. What the Hell is going on over at Remington? The quality of their bolt action 700 is sliding everyone knows the 770 is a piece of crap. The versa max isn’t reliable and now this piece of junk. Seriously the only pistol on the market that might be worse is a highpoint………………maybe.

    • Glenn Johnson April 23, 2017, 10:39 pm

      Freedom group has destroyed all the gun companies they bought…including NEF, H&R, MARLIN, and now REMINGTON, which had enough issues of its own before being bought out.

  • QuixsterIII January 31, 2017, 9:20 pm

    So tell us what you think about this gun really. Open up! LMAO!

  • Burns January 31, 2017, 7:22 pm

    Hey guys bo one twisted you’re arm to readt the review all the way through. If it annoyed you then you should have stopped and left. It’s like traffic slowing down to watch a wreck. The article went south from the begining, and it’s nice to see someone tell the truth, instead of tell us how great something is so they can get more editorial space. We all who have been around know a few reviewers who love every gun they test, and we also know thath they are only doing that to get paid and get more work, a Bamjo comes to mind.Great guy but wouldn’t go by his review when I have had many of the same guns and it’s as if mine and my friends guns were from another planet. I think it’s brave to tell the truth in the face of adversity. As far as the cursing, well it really shouldn’t matter to anyone these days when “The Housewives” call each other names that would have got you smacked when I was a young man.Here Here, I say,” Ceaser was Ambitious, but Brutus is an Honerable man”. Remington has screwed up 2 Pistoles in a years time, they better wath what they are doing or the Company can and will get hurt. These are relatively simple items to design and manufacture, and to get it wong twice in a year means that someone has to go, Probably their QC guy. You can not compare this to a Glock, After 45 years of Carrying everything rationaly possible, they still are the Gold Standard in Polymer Production Handguns, just look at the past 25 years.

  • Mike Price January 31, 2017, 7:05 pm

    As soon as I looked close at one in a gun shop I was like, is this really a Remington gun. First thing I noticed is thick, bulky investment cast slide and I’m thinking like this is one cheap made gun. I didn’t bother looking at it long. If you want value dollar gun that works super and super accurate, buy a Canik TP9. Love mine.

  • Msgt3227 January 31, 2017, 6:24 pm

    I picked up my new RP9 this afternoon and headed to the range. I did not see any videos or written reviews of this handgun before I had already paid for it and the obligatory waiting period began. On my way to the range today I pondered all the video footage of the FTFs and FTE(xtract). I kept telling myself that those were one-offs. 2 hours at the range with mine. I burned through close to 200 rounds, all of it some flavor of ball ammo. I actually had one uninterrupted string of 8 shots. Every other string was 1 or 2 or even 3 shots before the RP9 jammed. I have to say, I got REAL GOOD at clearing the jams! It is going back to the store tomorrow. Guess I’ll just buy another Glock….

  • CRS, DrPH January 31, 2017, 3:08 pm

    My Remington pistol of choice is my 50 year old 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge shotgun. I’ll pass on this one.

  • Donald Tremain January 31, 2017, 12:57 pm

    I joined Gunsamerica to get solid reviews. Also to purchase. I paid my dues in Vietnam, did my best and am not ashamed.One of the freedoms I fought for was freedom of choice. I don’t need to listen to CRAP and am unsubscribing to your newsletter and BLAHG.

  • FirstStateMark January 31, 2017, 11:44 am

    I watched a video on YouTube on this gun and it had numerous failure to feed jams where ball ammo in the magazine was hanging up on the feed ramp causing the barrel to rise up and locking the slide. The picture in this articular next to “Devil’s in the Details” reminds me of a Hi-Point 45 ACP. One word sums this gun up……………JUNK.

  • Ken January 31, 2017, 7:19 am

    Lets forget about the ugly issue for now. When the stoner m16 first came out it may have looked good, but function for our AMERICAN men in service had been unreliable as function goes (ftf and/or fte). Several people probably lost their lives because of this. I had been told by some vets they would pick up an ak47 too defend themselves. How long ago was the m16 first produced about 54 years ago, if rem is going too do anything about it try not too take 54 years.

  • C Ikei January 31, 2017, 3:43 am

    I liked your review. Call like you see it. I totally agree with review. But anyone dumb enough to buy a Remington pistol ( not rifle or shotgun), deserves a f’ing gun.

  • Lance January 30, 2017, 11:10 pm

    I agree with everything Clay said and thought he was straight up honest in his review. The first time I saw a picture of that new Remington “pile” I thought it was the ugliest piece of shit I’d ever seen. After reading Clays review I seem to not be the only one who thinks that way. If I find something that’s as ugly as this thing is I’d never even bother to try it out. If it’s butt fuk ugly then I sure as hell am not going to waste my time buying that playschool fantasy weapon from Remington. Thanks for being upfront and honest Clay, I for one appreciate that. Plus it’s funnier than shit just reading your reviews.

  • Tony January 30, 2017, 10:47 pm

    Guns America you have really scrapped the bottom of the barrel with this overrated Clay.
    Thought you were better than this.

    • Dan February 16, 2017, 3:17 pm

      Sorry I cannot agree with all you guys. As soon as my gun shop in PA. got one of these pistols in I had to have it. Well for $389.99 I will be buying one for my wife. First off I do not use what I call white box ammo. (Plain Junk) . Secondly I now have about 1250 rounds through mine with no problem. I reload my own ammo. I use a Speer manual and never play games. I do load the maximum load because the gun has a heavy slide that definitely controls recoil. Sorry you guys are hating this gun so much. Mine ticks like a Swiss Watch. Thank you Remington

  • loupgarous January 30, 2017, 10:27 pm

    Thanks for warning us about a weapon that’s much less than we’ve come to expect from Remington. I hope to see more and more reviews as candid as this one, having read many glowing praises of weapons which I considered answers to questions that no one ever asked on this site. While I didn’t find the long magazine to be especially bad, the failure of the left-hand slide release to work is a red flag pointing to other engineering and production problems.

    Not sure I like the humor attempts in the article, but I’d rather have a candid, sophomorically candid report than another “Gee, they let us have this one for free, we have to give it good press or they won’t hand us any more free guns” report.

  • Dudley January 30, 2017, 9:22 pm

    Another smoking turd from Remington. No surprise here. Pretty expensive trot-line weight.

  • guit-slinger January 30, 2017, 9:20 pm

    Remington built a POS ?????
    How about my 597 in .17HMR ! Blew the frick up on about the 20th round, then they fricking offer me $200 or a .22magnum barrel if I send it back……REALLY ???? ……if I wanted a .22mag I’d have bought a .22mag !
    And now they are ruining Marlin !

  • Layton January 30, 2017, 8:01 pm

    I had thought about checking into one of these, when they come out with the .45, just because of the Shot Show review. Now I don’t think I will. As for Clay saying he would have a hard time getting a Remington pistol right now. I have a 1911 R1, and it has functioned flawlessly since I bought it in 2011. Some guns are just duds

  • gary January 30, 2017, 6:44 pm

    First off, Comparing it to a Glock piece of crap that does not fit anyone with a big hand is bull squirt.
    Secondly, comparing it to a Glock, really I have a llama 380 that shots circles around my friends Glock 380.
    Third, it sounds like you have no shooting data to back anything up that ASS wipe since you seem to like colorful language.
    Shitty article from a less than stable mind, probably paid off by Glock!!!!!!!!!!!! This is just my OPINION as the article is only YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of which you have no credibility as it would seem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Kivaari January 30, 2017, 8:20 pm

      You should specify that some people with large hands find small frame Glocks too small. AND that others find the large frame Glocks way too big. A Gen 4 M17-type fitd just about any hand using the appropriate grip adapter. I happen to like the fit and feel of the Gen 3 Glock 17. Those much hated finger grooves fit me perfectly and the trigger reach is proper. We shifted from large frame Glock 21s to 17s and 19s and everyone, even the guys with big hands agreed with the change and shot better.

  • Smitty January 30, 2017, 6:14 pm

    Jeeezzz Clay,
    What the hell are you doing? Hangin meat in your shop? I was wondering if you had any FTE’s and FTF’s like Tim had on the MAC channel. Take a look at his video if you get a chance. It was God awful. Keep up the good work.

    • Kivaari January 30, 2017, 8:22 pm

      From the sounds of the article he didn’t even shoot it. He read other peoples reviews and they said it didn’t work. I don’t know if he even shot this gun.

  • John January 30, 2017, 5:54 pm

    I worked in the oil field on drilling rigs bact in the ’50s, drove trucks, did three tours in SEA where I was unloading on people that were bent on killing me at that very precise moment, worked in building hardware, done Research and Development, and a bunch of other things. I understand the use of vulgarity when you are working on heavy iron in freezing mud with the north wind blowing over your rear and under your jacket, when you are slogging through 100 degree temperatures and humidity that is near the same figure and you don’t know whether you are more wet from sweating or walking through a creek, doing your job all by yourself through a hail of fire from weapons of all kinds, and made a living for a family that was reasonably comfortable and put the kids through college and their getting started in the working world. My dad, uncles, brothers and I were part of the group that gave us a free world, technologies and energy that allowed the development of what we have today, and tried to make this country a pleasant place to live. We leave the vulgarity behind in polite company and in our writing. We do not need to prove to anyone that we can look grubby, get tired and dirty wrestling with problems, and sound like we are smarter than the next person. If you lack the vocabulary to express yourself without resort to vulgarity then you should get out of the writing/publishing business and into comedy or maybe into a nice dirty, physically straining job out away from the rest of the community. To support and defend this type of writer while denigrating the very people that allow you the freedom to indulge in this behavior, unfortunately, would seem to put you in the same category. Just because others do it and because you can indulge yourself does not mean you should do it. I would not believe anything this author wrote because of the language. And because of your support the whole of GunsAmerica is called into question. I do not have the time to waste on this type of drivel.

    • Slingblade January 30, 2017, 7:17 pm

      A nearly 20 line proclamation telling everybody just how tough, bad-ass and smart YOU are followed by a when and where vulgarity is or isn’t supposed to be used lesson. Dude, when you start doing your OWN gun reviews online then by all means do them YOUR way! Finally, thank you very much for the sacrifices you made in the armed forces of this country, but man I got to tell if you think any of the shit that we did in SEA gave anyone a free world or more freedom whatsoever then you are just as delusional as they come!

      • Dave Vets January 31, 2017, 1:02 am

        Hey Slingblade, FYI. You ignoramus; Any Vet in any theater or none at all that answered the call gave everyone in the Free World a better place in which to be Free. DONE

        • Slingblade February 2, 2017, 12:35 pm

          Vets answered the call and are heroes…Agreed 100%. Let’s just leave it at that!

    • Gene January 30, 2017, 8:52 pm

      Well said. Agree 100%.

    • gb January 31, 2017, 5:53 am

      It was a Great article
      if you don’t like it you are either working for Remington or you have no sense of style
      a pistol like that maybe could have been released in 1950 North Korea or China … not here…offending the greatness of 2017 USA…I say recall them all and incinerate them…

  • Alfonso Alfredo Rodriguez January 30, 2017, 5:44 pm

    Even Sig has had problems with a couple of its models and so has Beretta. Your review is amateurish at best, Like badge 714 used to say: “the facts ma’am, just the facts”. Your style is rude, repetitive and misses a lot of point: how accurate, how reliable, how heavy, measurements in comparison to other pistol and ergonomics, and weight of the trigger pull. I guess you do not like Rugers or Walthers since this pistol reminds me a lot of a Walther and Rugers are ugly but very good dependable weapons. Your are severely limited by your language. If you do not like the gun, just say it in clear, concise and factual terms. by the way, the trigger is 4.4 lbs, the weight is 28 oz, the barrel is 4 inches IAW with Remington publisged specs. How good is the weapon, or how many bugs it has, remains to be seen. The pistol may adequate, superb or just a lemon but only future use will tell. You remind me of those obnoxious and snobbish movie critics but without any finesse or elegance of expression in the English language (it betrays you level of education). I have been shooting longer than you have been alive and I would like you to give another try, this time in a professional manner, not in a white trash way.

    • Charles Welch January 30, 2017, 6:19 pm

      Personally, I found this review to be quite amusing. It really takes character. Having written similarly humorous book reviews ensures that one will not get another book to review from the same publisher. (And speaking about Walters, I once nearly shot my foot off hunting groundhogs with a WWII model – heavy as hell, but its trigger had a touch as sensitive as a baby’s toe.)

  • Dylan S January 30, 2017, 5:42 pm

    I seriously can’t tell if all these bible thumpers/retirees are trolls, or just getting over the whole internet is the devil’s work nonsense.

    • Kivaari January 30, 2017, 8:25 pm

      What do retirees have to do with the dislike of his vulgar comments? We learned to swear in the same places as young people today. We just are more polite than young people.

      • Toby February 1, 2017, 11:40 am

        Polite isn’t a requirement for the internet. You can be polite all you want at work and in public but the internet should be a free for all. But of course, that’s just an opinion.
        The difference to me is that in the internet as with TV and radio, you can move along. You are not stuck anywhere you don’t wish to be like in a public situation with someone acting how you feel is inappropriate.

      • Andrew N. February 4, 2017, 12:28 am

        Kivaari- Agreed. As a 14 year Vet of the US Navy, I could swear like, well, like the proverbial sailor. But I agree there is a time and place for it, especially when making a point vehemently. That being said, not everyone swears nowadays, I’m guessing the ones that do are hoping that someone takes them seriously. Sorry folks, the same thing is done by 8th Grade girls trying to look tough or grown up. Somewhere around the middle of their Freshman year in high school it slows significantly or stops completely. They learn that no one is impressed by foul language used for no apparent reason. Therefore, all I can guess is most of these people defending the unnecessary foul language are 8th Grade girls.

    • Al January 30, 2017, 8:36 pm

      What do you mean by bible thumpers?

    • Dylan S January 31, 2017, 10:50 am

      Older people seem to be the loudest detractors about censoring the internet. It’s not a public restraunt, it’s a place for people to express their opinion. Deal with it. And I’m not even going to get started on the jesus freaks.

  • Pete Ostergard January 30, 2017, 4:33 pm

    What’s the matter, did they make you pay for it. Gun reviews don’t have to be murderous just factual. You seem to have an attitude my friend. If I were a manufacturer I certainly wouldn’t want your opinion on anything. You lack disgrecion. and seemingly education, too.

    • Smitty January 30, 2017, 6:23 pm

      Pete, you obviously lack spell check to go with your education and discretion.

  • Jim Cotton January 30, 2017, 4:29 pm

    Watch the language. My grandkids might be reading this.

    • buh January 30, 2017, 11:22 pm

      tell their parents to pay better attention, and that they should be monitoring what the kids are doing on the internet.
      if your grandkids see this, your son or daughter is a lousy parent.
      and by the way, the internet is not “G” rated.
      I’m sure you can figure out where to see a review to your liking. You didn’t have to watch the whole thing….but you did 🙂

  • Thang Nguyen January 30, 2017, 4:29 pm

    18 rounds clip? Its nice but Virginia limit is 6. No use but trouble for me to go out with.

    • Famen Namel January 30, 2017, 5:26 pm

      What are you smoking Thang Nguyen? Virginia limit is not 6.

  • Thang Nguyen January 30, 2017, 4:27 pm

    Why clay? Does it make it lighter? Will it pass the metal detectorwhen it check the luggage?

  • J. B. Smith January 30, 2017, 4:24 pm

    Seriously? it looks like Remington is designing pistols by committee! I’d be curious to know exactly which market they were hoping to sell this to.
    Perhaps the wizards of gun smart are going to retool this beast as a .40 S&W, then into a .45 ACP and wanted to do it without having to re-machine the whole casting, just the breech face?
    Somewhere, I got the impression that each new pistol designed, manufactured and marketed was to be an improvement. 18-round magazine is a selling point? Gaston Glock nailed the simple-to-use, double-stack, 17+1 polymer pistol market a long time ago. This latest offering by Big Green seems to be more of the same without any features that make me want to spend $450+ Plus tax.
    Did I mention that I have a high-capacity 9 mm pistol from another “name” manufacturer that has a permanent home in my gun safe. Yup, a Colt “All American 2000.” That didn’t work out so well — another pistol that is a Safe Queen. (Yes, it has been back to the factory twice, the trigger still sucks and I lost interest in it a long time ago.)
    So, the question is not only “So what?” to the RP9, it is also, “Why bother?”

    Anyone have a Taurus PT-58 (.380) magazine or three?

    • Steve Warren January 31, 2017, 11:20 am

      Yep. A committee with a deadline to meet.

  • Keith B. January 30, 2017, 4:12 pm

    Obviously Guns America spends about as much time vetting their “Authors, reviews, bloggers” (Ect. Ect)….*Notice the quotation marks*… As Remington spent on R&D for this design….As poor and ugly as this handgun is, the review is poorer & uglier. Who taught this person how to write? Unnecessary, obsessive use of Profanity displays one thing and one thing only… A lack of intelligence. George Carlin made poignant, ironic comedy out of it…This Moron just made bad taste…. People that find this type of low brow discourse entertaining are probably lacking any reasonable form of intelligence as well. Did ya’ll grow up in Trailer Parks? … I really don’t care whether somebody’s kid is reading this. If you are stupid enough to let your children on the internet unsupervised, you deserve what you get. I come here to read an honest unbiased opinion of products I find interest in. After watching & reading this tripe, it was obviously a wasted effort….Might be time to rethink Guns America….Guns America needs to rethink the level of Mr. Martin’s participation…

  • Charles B Owens Jr January 30, 2017, 4:09 pm

    A very well experienced gun owners knows what to look for and can help others less experienced enthusiasts just starting, can seek help from those that are well informed and knowledgeable about firearms. As far as potty mouth for kids to hear, then you need to walk down the halls of some schools when class is over, you will probably hear enough potty mouth to last you a life time, if raised right they would know the difference, it doesn’t take a whole neighborhood to raise a kid, just an tentative parent. Thanks for the fun info on the handgun.

  • davud January 30, 2017, 3:42 pm

    i hardly noticed the salty language, since i was too busy marveling that a gun blog had actually panned a gun. then again, plenty of other reviewers have plowed this ground first, so not much risk being taken.

    nice job of writing by clay – lively and fun to read.

  • Michael A Gilliam January 30, 2017, 2:55 pm

    Come on Clay, tell us how you REALLY feel.

    • James January 30, 2017, 4:00 pm

      OMG! This is the funniest review of a pistol I have ever read!

  • Edward Allen January 30, 2017, 1:54 pm

    Clay, tell us how you really feel!

    So far, your reviews have pretty much lined up with my findings, so I see no need to doubt you on this one.

    Just looking at this item makes me wonder who the rookie was who designed it. It is obvious that the slide is too large. I can just imagine what the recoil would be like if this was chambered in 45 cal.

    As for ugly, I can over look that, as long as the form meets the function. A good example of this would be the hi-point carbines. Not pretty to look at, but reliable as hell.

    As to language. It does get the point across. No idea why your use of profanity in this case is setting people off, unless they are only posing as gun enthusiast. A swear word here and there won’t hurt you. But purchasing a fire arm that has been lauded as the end all and be all can. Either due to the poor ergonomics or poor economics.

    Continue to provide us with truth when you do your reviews.

    Semper Fi Mac

    Ed

    • Michael A Gilliam January 30, 2017, 2:57 pm

      Lol, I didn’t read your reply till after I wrote mine and just had to laugh.

    • Smitty January 30, 2017, 6:29 pm

      I guess only we Sailor’s and Marine’s get it. IT”S FOR EMPHASIS!!!!

  • R. Joseph January 30, 2017, 1:23 pm

    I sorry to hear that a company like Remington would produce a piece of crap. While I never owned a Remington pistol I have owned Remington shotguns, namely an 1100 and a 870. Hopefully they will take note and do better in the future.

  • inidaho January 30, 2017, 1:15 pm

    THANKS for taking time to review and give an honest opinion. Looks like a bit cold in your little shop? Tell it like it is, language and all!!!! Thanks again, and thanks again for your military service, and we look forward to some training from you this spring.

  • mrpski January 30, 2017, 12:49 pm

    Had a 1963 typewriter I used for 40 years from them. It was pretty good

    • Woody January 30, 2017, 1:19 pm

      Different Remington. Typewriters came from Remington-Rand.

  • Ken January 30, 2017, 12:35 pm

    What Rem was trying too do was make the gun multipurpose use. If the gun was not good for general purpose, it could double as a “t” post driver, hammer or a glass breaking tool. Maybe they are like Ford or Dodge, produce it first and fix it later, i.e. massive recalls.

  • cisco kid January 30, 2017, 12:30 pm

    I am shocked, shocked. I have found an honest gun writer. I thought previously they had all become extinct.
    This latest P.O.S from Remington comes as no surprise. They made the same mistake with their .380 plasticky pistol that was a public relations nightmare and you think the greed mongers at Remington would have learned something from that debacle but obviously not. Today its all about pleasing the stock holders with higher and higher obscene profits and giving multi million dollar salaries to top CEO’s who do nothing for the company but rape it and run when they have ruined it. Its called “good business practice”. Companies today think they can screw the gun buyer big time because all the other manufactures are also cheapening their trash so the consumer has little choice as he can buy their junk or some else’s junk. Some choice huh? Did you notice that even Beretta (which used to make some very nice guns) now is using cast locking blocks, plasticky safeties and plasticky triggers. Colt used plasticky triggers in their .380 1911 type pistol and I have seen these pieces of trash disintegrate. Ditto for the junk locking blocks in the newer Beretta 92 pistols. I wonder how long their trash plastic safeties and plasticky triggers will last. What joke, what a rip off.

  • Ivo Roberts Jr. January 30, 2017, 12:15 pm

    Not much of a review with any shooting information. Did it feed well? Did it eat any type of Ammo were there a bunch of FTE’s. Was it accurate in the hands of a pro?

    • Timothy January 30, 2017, 1:20 pm

      Yeah, it would be good to have shooting info…being a working gun and all (haha). You have to admire the guys candor about the design though.

    • Mike January 30, 2017, 1:56 pm

      Great comment!!

  • Beachhawk January 30, 2017, 12:13 pm

    Gee Clay, I wish you would tell us how you really feel about this pistol! I did gather from your review that it was not one of your favorites.

  • mosby January 30, 2017, 12:09 pm

    first thing i thought of was “hi point”!

  • Ken January 30, 2017, 12:05 pm

    Why don’t you tell us what you really think.

  • Tripwire January 30, 2017, 12:03 pm

    Here’s how I see it, this is “My opinion” YMMV.
    First, I used to subscribe to almost every gun magazine in print and over time came to see that almost without exception the gun reviewer would praise the new Blowchester as the greatest thing since pussy and two pages later would be full page ads for that very gun. I began to doubt. The entire “Gun Reviewing” gig is just that, it’s a gig. For a while many years ago there was a gun magazine dedicated to honest reviews, they told it like it was and took no advertising for the guns in question. They went out of business but they told the truth.
    Now for the prudes out there let me tell you something you probably know but ignore. Kids today are not like those of us from the Ma and Pa Kettle era. The internet has changed that forever. Case in point, I watched some interviews with college girls in the 18 to 21 age bracket, they were open and candid. Almost all of them had their first sexual experience with a girl friend during sleep overs. Almost all admitted this happened at around age 14 but a few admitted to starting as early as 10, almost all admitted they still engage in sex with other girls and enjoy it. Most admitted they learned to give BJ’s from watching internet porn. They also said they were giving BJ’s before ever having regular sex. Most said they gave up on virginity by 14 to 16.
    Now I didn’t post this for any reason except to point out that kids today are light years advanced over their parents. As for language, read your kids Face Book posts, IF you can access it. I have read the FB page of a friends 14 yo daughter who talked openly of sneaking out of the house late at night and BJ’s were mentioned.
    Now as for Clay, I like him, I like his style and I like his no bullshit take no prisoners approach to life. I understand him, we speak the same language. I’m a former Marine as is Clay. In boot camp I was issued an M1 and the fuck word, it was standard issue and likely is today. I can’t speak for the other branches of service but I know the Corps is the Corps.
    For those of you who find Clay’s reviews not to your liking I can only say don’t read them.
    I’ll take F bombs along with the honest opinion of somebody who has been there done that. A friend of mine is a SF operator with several tours in Affuckistan who said the SCAR was a piece of shit. I believed him because I saw a picture of him out in the mountains over there carrying one. I wasn’t bothered by his language.
    Clay, do what you do in your own way, it’s very fucking refreshing.

    • Steve A. January 30, 2017, 12:55 pm

      So by your reasoning by all means let continue to accept and promote the moral decline and coarsening of our culture. Anything goes.. All discourse and behavior is accepted no matter how repugnant. Maybe thats acceptable in your family in mine it’s most certainly is not. ( and before the naysayers respond I am no prude I served for 9 years and have been all over the world and I choose not to behave thusly nor will I accept it in my family. Apparently a growing minority.)

      • Ddubyahz January 30, 2017, 8:46 pm

        Amen
        But do agree that Rem Corp is declining as well as the morality of this nation

    • BUURGA January 30, 2017, 1:33 pm

      If kids are like they are today it is because of men who don’t have enough backbone or intelligence to create any kind of moral code or conduct. You seem to know WAY too much about what young girls are doing (and what the hell that has to do with a pistol review ?). Spare us the BS that acting like a cussing, low-life makes you an expert on anything. Grow up and get some class mate. You need it.

    • Lightleader January 30, 2017, 5:07 pm

      Love your review, I don’t laugh at many and like you indicated this gun looks like a joke ha-ha-ha—Nam era vet Army F.T.A our favorite saying Fuck the Army. Rave on dude–i’ll listen

  • Scott January 30, 2017, 12:00 pm

    OK, so you like Glocks, well most of us don’t like what we would consider ugly glocks with the stupidest 22 degree grip angle that no other manufacturer uses. Out of all the reviews I have seen on the new Remington rp9, this was the most biased. Glock on Glockmeister, to Glockenhiem, glockety Glock.

    • Edward Allen January 30, 2017, 12:27 pm

      I’ve listened to, and read, many of his reviews. I appreciate the being willing to say that a new fire arm from a big name is a piece of junk.
      Note that he said he did shoot it. And that it was very heavy recoil for a 9.
      As for Glock. He has given stellar ratings to Springfield. Smith and Wesson and many others.
      I would ignore the profanity, which is less than you get watching a tv show, and listen to the content.

    • Ben January 30, 2017, 3:48 pm

      Love them or hate them, Glock pistols set a standard that changed the game in duty pistols. Higher capacity, light weight, and legendary reliability are features that any gun should meet is it wants to compete in the modern pistol age. Other than capacity, Remington just doesn’t have it. If you don’t like Glock, there is M&P, PPQ, VP9, XD9, and many other fine guns. This gun ain’t

  • Macten January 30, 2017, 11:56 am

    The first pic I saw I thought it was a Highpoint with a custom slide.

  • David January 30, 2017, 11:56 am

    I find this gun no more ugly than the rest of the “plastic” guns being made. I would never judge by one review whether I would buy a gun or not and certainly not by an author who’s vocabulary consists of 14 words and 6 of those are curse words. If you can’t express your opinion without the constant use of vulgar language, then you need to go back to the oil field. Don’t get me wrong, I have been in locker rooms, both sports & law enforcement and many hunting camps, but those that speak constantly like the author are subject to being judged as a hunter that has learned everything he knows on the internet. Bottom line, poor review, even poorer author = no more wasting my time on what he has to say. Also GunsAmerica, keep this up and you will always be a distant #2 behind GunBroker.

    • Edward Allen January 30, 2017, 12:26 pm

      I’ve listened to, and read, many of his reviews. I appreciate the being willing to say that a new fire arm from a big name is a piece of junk.
      Note that he said he did shoot it. And that it was very heavy recoil for a 9.
      I would ignore the profanity, which is less than you get watching a tv show, and listen to the content.

  • ATGR January 30, 2017, 11:52 am

    Love the honesty. Best review ever. I held an RP9 last week. I’m no expert, but I knew it felt really weird in my hand. It’s very barrel heavy. Bought and M&P 2.0 instead. So glad I made that choice.

    I own the Gen 2 R51, which has worked great for me, and was hoping that Remington would try to redeem themselves after the Gen 1 R51 with the RP9. Guess not.

    To add insult to injury, I also have a Hi Point beater that cost me $139. Ugly as hell, but never failed yet. For anyone who would actually buy an RP9, you may want to look at these. At least they admit their ugly.

    • Ben January 30, 2017, 3:50 pm

      Have you ran hollow points through that R51?

  • bmcgilvray January 30, 2017, 11:38 am

    I can be as much of a pontificating self-appointed “expert” as the reviewer shows himself to be. Face it. All modern pistols look like Hi-Points. This Remington offering is no uglier than a host of revered models so popular these days. They all look like cordless electric drills! Condemning its appearance and offering nothing more than subjective opinionated twaddle says much more about this review’s author than it does about the Remington RP9. The course language is unnecessary and unappreciated, showing the author to be low-class and with no respect for himself or his readers. I’m not even in the market for a pistol such as this, but certainly will go have a look at it in order to form my own opinions. One doesn’t have to read very far into this review to know he doesn’t value the author’s prejudice, lack of substance, and its poor taste. I haven’t seen the RP9 yet, but I’m willing to give Remington an “E” for effort. As far as Martin, he can go to the back of the class because of his crummy writing style. He writes like a junior high boy learning to “cuss.”

  • Tug January 30, 2017, 11:38 am

    You have a link problem with the PLASTIC 1911 article. It keeps coming back to this Remington review

  • David Petty January 30, 2017, 11:36 am

    It is said that a man that can’t express himself, without resorting to profanity, has a very Limited vocabulary.

    • Ron January 30, 2017, 3:40 pm

      So, you care more about the method than the message. Fine! Me? I’d rather have an honest opinion.

  • John Wilde January 30, 2017, 11:35 am

    You get what you pay for. You buy a bottom end gun you just might get a bottom end gun. Sounds like Remington needs some schooling on handgun design and quality. Been buying $4-500 Remington SPS rifles for years and turn them into shooters be throwing machining and precision parts at them (Stock, Trigger, true receiver & bolt, set barrel back, re crown muzzle). Nothing money can’t fix. But, you can always buy a Cooper or Kimber and avoid the aggravation.

    • Ron January 30, 2017, 3:41 pm

      I would suggest a slight edit. You, unfortunately, DON’T get what you pay for, but you sure as heck don’t get what you DON’T pay for. I submit that there are a lot of overpriced guns out there where you certainly don’t get what you pay for. Darned few cheap ones where you get more than you paid for.

  • G. J. Lee January 30, 2017, 11:34 am

    I really enjoyed all this. I got to laughing so hard that I tripped over
    my scrotum and fell & busted my artisicus. Only thing that might
    have been funnier would have been that I had the pistol in my
    back pocket & it was so bad it went off & missed my whole hole .

  • Warner Anderson January 30, 2017, 11:33 am

    Thanks for this review. Unfavorable reviews of firearms are exceptionally important. Most consumers look at qualities the can assess in the gun shop, and reliability isn’t one of them. Nor accuracy, nor firing biomechanics. This review is a great service. We tend to assume a modern pistol from a major producer will work right off the production line, and work better after a box of ammo. The synchophant gun press loves everything that’s advertised in the magazines they then sell us as gun porn. I will have to check issues of American Rifleman for a review.

  • roger B January 30, 2017, 11:29 am

    WHY is this link for the 1911 go to this page, its NOT anything to do with the plastic 1911???

  • Bob B January 30, 2017, 11:22 am

    Wondering how using the F bomb in a review for a great product would go over.

  • Mike M January 30, 2017, 11:15 am

    Clay – thanks for the honest review of a firearm you don’t like. Speaking your mind on both ends of the spectrum in reviews is refreshing and useful. I appreciate the candid review and find is quite humorous.

    As for the prude losers worried about “kids might read this”, do some parenting, the internet is a big scary place, this is not even close to the worst thing your kid may see or read. No one is going to filter anything for your little snowflake. Shaping what your kid sees, reads, and does, is the parents job. Do your job.

    After reading most of these comments, it appears some are quite willing to buy something at a low price point, not because it’s a good value, but it’s just a low price point and goes bang. Good for you if that’s all you’re interested in, there’s a time and a place for everything I guess. But in this market, there are so many good firearms available at a range of price points, you’d be foolish to buy the cheapest thing available just because it’s the cheapest thing available. Even really good designs are often overlooked by the buying public, a bad design won’t get a second look.

    Remington won’t survive if they continue to release products like this.

  • David January 30, 2017, 11:10 am

    I to, see new guns from Remington and hope for something like the Remingtons I love and grew up shooting. Alas. in all the owner changes and moves I don’t think there is anything left of our old friend.

  • Rex January 30, 2017, 11:05 am

    Thanks for the frank, shooting the breeze with the fellas review Clay. The RP9 is an ugly firearm! The over travel is a joke. The hideous Hi Point C9 is its cheaper ugly brother. Why not buy the Hi Point? Remington is in the toilet.

  • Konrad Richter January 30, 2017, 10:52 am

    First line, language alert. My Masters in engineering says I’m reasonably educated. I had no trouble inderstanding the writers comments. The choice of experlitives pointed out his flustration with the manufacture. I appreciate someone with the balls to say it the way he sees it. There is no misunderstaning, f**k you and your political correctness. And if your issue os kids, you better get your ears checked, even the Alterboy can put a sailor to shame when he’s not in church. Writer, thanks for the fresh air, even when it stinks.

  • rt66paul January 30, 2017, 10:51 am

    I get he doesn’t like the firearm. One pottymouth would have been enough to state his point. We aren’t in the lockeroom or the squadroom of the NYPD(who are known for potty mouths). If this was just a YouTube rant, I could understand, but GA connecting themselves with this is a shame.

    Yes, Fugly, I understand and used once would have sufficed.

  • Gary January 30, 2017, 10:44 am

    Where is the “Plastic 1911” article?

  • shark January 30, 2017, 10:39 am

    LMAO!! I love the pussies on here crying about the language………”kids might read this”………really?? I’ve got news for you-your precious sweet little angels see & hear a thousand times worse on the web, tv, & vid games. Seriously.

    • Steve Alexander January 30, 2017, 10:45 am

      Like the author you obviously lack common decency, thoughtful intellect and possess limited vocabulary. That with the coarseness in today’s society is becoming all too frequent..

      • Slingblade January 30, 2017, 11:09 am

        That’s 100% correct Shark! Besides a little coarse language and gun talk is exactly what the kids need these days. Steve, you can raise your kid to be some effeminate intellectual stuffed in skinny jeans sipping chai tea with his pinky finger extended if you so desire!

        • WiscoGunner January 30, 2017, 11:41 am

          Rather than attack Steve for his very reasonable response to the author’s language, you ought to stop for a few seconds and consider what he said. Our society has gotten much more crass and many people seem to speak before they think about what their words may evoke. Speaking thoughtfully and respectfully in no way makes you a wimp. I can’t believe how offended everyone gets when someone points out the unnecessary use of foul language! Guess I had better let a bunch of f-bombs fly so I don’t get disrespected here.

          I think this article/review could have been written without the 7th grader style. I can understand the author’s dislike of the gun. It is truly ugly, over-sized and offers nothing revolutionary that would make it a worthy addition to a crowded field of 9mm pistols. If the title had been, “Who Hit the RP9 with the Ugly Stick?”, I would have read the article.

          Now, as someone else pointed out…where is the article on the plastic 1911?????

          • Toby January 30, 2017, 1:38 pm

            It is really annoying that some peopleple consider any use of profanity unnecessary. That’s your opinion. Necessity is up to the author and quite a relative term. I didn’t even find the article to be full of profanity.
            He even starred out letters in the title for shit.
            And fugly isn’t profanity. Just like fubar.
            So you’re going to say that you’re offended or it’s unnecessary or profanity to use a word that stands for or abbreviates or implies profanity? That’s simply ridiculous. People like this are just self-appointed profanity police and it personally bothers them so they find every example of it they can to condemn it.
            For some reason, they have convinced themselves that profanity is a sign of lesser intelligence so not using profanity or condemning profanity makes them smarter.
            Everyone should speak and do what they are comfortable with but making such a big issue over something so little comes across blatantly prudish.
            I use profanity quite often in writing. I feel it embellishes the language and gives a better depiction of my actual level of emotion, especially anger or disgust. But there was no need to use profanity in this comment because I am not pissed. Ha ha….

      • Glen Plake January 31, 2017, 8:03 am

        Wrong. Use of profanity not only doesn’t correlate with limited vocabulary, but is associated with greater vocabulary and higher IQ. Educate yourselves, prudes:
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3949986/Is-swearing-sign-intelligence-People-curse-larger-vocabulary-don-t.html

    • Samslimovich January 31, 2017, 2:28 am

      So now you’re an expert on what other people’s kids watch on the Internet?

  • Larry January 30, 2017, 10:37 am

    So, Clay, tell us what you really think of it.

  • paul January 30, 2017, 10:33 am

    Is Remington a company run by Democrats? Somebody should look into this. How could anything be this f*cked up and not be overseen by the DNC?

  • Justin Cowell January 30, 2017, 10:28 am

    Freedom of speech is your’s but, freedom of choice is ours… Your end consumer. This should never have been released by any professional organization. The choice of your language discredits your opinion of the gun for me.

    • Toby February 1, 2017, 11:48 am

      Boo hoo…discredits for you. Your opinion had nothing to do with whether an article, statement, etc is true, valid or full of relevant accurate information.
      If you disregard or move along whenever you don’t like the language or tone you certainly stand to miss a lot of
      Information and discussion.
      I think that’s what most liberals do…. When the tone etc doesn’t suit their personal requirements they move on. This must contribute to their narrow view of how their way is the only way.

  • Scott January 30, 2017, 10:22 am

    For all you who take offense to the author’s review: NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Steve Alexander January 30, 2017, 10:30 am

      Some people appreciate a thoughtful intellect. A characteristic you and the author apparently lack..

      • Ron January 30, 2017, 3:44 pm

        One can have both. I, too, disdain those who use profanity just for shock value. But when it’s because of honesty and lack of political correctness, I see it as realistic.

    • Oh really? Who appointed you genius in command? January 30, 2017, 10:38 am

      Oh really? Who appointed you genius in command?

    • GungaDean January 30, 2017, 11:00 am

      Hey, as a retired combat troop, who carried the 1911in some pretty “sketchy” places, I appreciate your honesty. Enhanced CCW in hand now, as a civilian it is difficult to keep up with the toys on the market. I recently made a mistake with an XDS 3.3 in 45 ACP. Wish someone would have told me about the lack of accuracy. Now, $400 smackers poorer but wiser, I have the 4″ version and am far more pleased with the little stinger.

  • Derrall Williamson January 30, 2017, 10:21 am

    Well it looks like Remington took away the fugly gun award away from HiPoint. At least HiPoint guns shoot well.

  • MikeC January 30, 2017, 10:17 am

    I disappointing that the excuse of not having words to describe something other than offensive language is irritating to me. If the author of this article has such a narrow (small) vocabulary, I suggest this publication remove the word “America” from it title. Everyone has an opinion. I did not read the article due to the language in the title. I would hope that this type of article is removed from immediately and you exercise due diligence in maintaining, at least, a minimum civil standard.

    • Oh really? Who appointed you genius in command? January 30, 2017, 10:40 am

      He’s a Yankee; what would you expect?

    • T.G January 30, 2017, 10:42 am

      Aww, another butt hurt liberal

    • MATT PARKER III January 30, 2017, 10:44 am

      A person’s language defines their intelligence. And, in this case the author is not as intelligent as the RP9.

      • Ken January 30, 2017, 11:33 am

        This is so dam (notice the spelling) funny! If intelligence is measured by language, then the words/name “OBAMA or CLINTON” is the worst word of all that defines stupidity and automatically drops ones iq by 100 points. Actions are a better measurement of intelligence than words. I bet all of the ones that complain about the language go too and or watch movies that have adult language content in it. Strip club on Saturdays and church on sunday, right! When you complainers read the comments out loud too your childrens hearing range.

  • LJH January 30, 2017, 10:09 am

    I grew up in the 50s-60s hunting with Remington rifles; however in the 1990s I purchased a Remington 22 semi-auto that was utter garbage. I took it to a gun smith with an indoor range and he could not get the gun to shoot straight. It shot up, down, left and right with a random pattern. From that day forward, I have nothing but negative feelings for Remington. I will not use Remington ammunition. By the way, the 22 semi-auto, I sold it to a friend for $20 … scope, rifle, and ammo after telling him emphatically that it was trash.

    • Jake January 30, 2017, 10:06 pm

      I am guessing you had a 597. Besides the absolute garbage magazine, the big problem with the 597 is that when you get one, you have to disassemble it and reassemble it using an inch pounds torque wrench or driver and set the screws or bolts to exact torque specs. Obviously I learned this the hard way because who the heck has to do that with a 10/22? If you do not the action rails will bind. The trigger was also utter trash. I put in a Volquartsen hammer which instantly transformed it into an excellent three pound trigger. So, if you are willing to screw with it extensively, modifying almost all of it, it will drive tacks at 50 yards. Of course, you can simply buy a Ruger 10/22 Target model with the heavy barrel and factory target trigger, mount an optic and immediately begin driving tacks at 50 yards and never do another thing beyond cleaning and lubricating.

  • Samslimovich January 30, 2017, 10:02 am

    Apparently Steve g doesn’t realise that a kid or two may be watching the reviews on this site.

    • Ron January 30, 2017, 3:46 pm

      So where are their parents?

  • Harold Greenleaf January 30, 2017, 9:55 am

    Would have been a interesting review except for the language. I’m sure there are women and those under 18 that may have been interested in this but…. Foul language does not convey additional useful information. Shame on Guns America and the reviewer.

    • jimmy January 30, 2017, 10:26 am

      what are you, a 75 year old pastor?

      • Steve Alexander January 30, 2017, 10:40 am

        Some people appreciate a thoughtful intellect. A characteristic you and the author apparently lack I won’t be watching anymore of his reviews either. On top of it I can’t take him seriously with the arrogant know it all attitude and the annoying head banger music. I’ve done my share of cursing but it’s not needed in a thoughtful serious review. It’s a sign of limited vocabulary and intellect.

        • Slingblade January 30, 2017, 11:20 am

          Steve, we get it…we hear your pretentious proclamations…ad nauseam! I think it is safe to say that your superior intellect and vocabulary is not being properly appreciated by the audience at hand! Perhaps try searching for a Tea & Book Club or the like to get involved with.

          • Steve A. January 30, 2017, 1:09 pm

            Lighten up Francis..

      • WiscoGunner January 30, 2017, 11:55 am

        Jimmy,
        Look at the question you wrote? Are you offended by people who are pastors? Is standing up for what is noble not a good thing? Think about standing up and defending people who take a stand for what is good, noble and right, instead of defending those who lower the standards of decency. Here is what God has said about flip-flopping the two. (And no, I am not a pastor, but I am a follower of Christ. I am by no means perfect, in fact, far from it, but I start each day trying to be a better person than the day before).

        “How terrible it will be for those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute what is bitter for what is sweet and what is sweet for what is bitter!” Isaiah 5:20

    • Ron January 30, 2017, 3:58 pm

      You haven’t been around many women or those under 18 much lately, have you? Clay’s language is what you’ll hear walking down the street from women, children, anyone, and they’re not the least embarrassed when someone overhears them.

  • Alan Caine January 30, 2017, 9:43 am

    Used a Remington .308 for two years. Other side of the pond. Very accurate, solid rifle…wtf happened to quality at Remington?

  • Steve G January 30, 2017, 9:42 am

    A few of observations:
    (1) Generally speaking, the prevalence of nicey-nice reviews out there is high as compared to critical or negative reviews.
    (2) Clay does reviews, so they are his opinion. As such they are subjective in nature. Get over that or stop reading reviews.
    (3) Clay is going to cuss, so if you don’t like that type of language don’t read his reviews. He is very consistent in this regard.
    It is clear from the article he fired the gun and found it difficult to control. He made the decision to not spend a bunch of money on ammo hoping things would change. I don’t blame him for that. This all reminds me of when I bought a Remington 11-87 shotgun. It shot a full 3 feet high at 20 yards and it handled like a boat anchor. I couldn’t sell it fast enough.
    I for one appreciate this candid review. I also don’t mind the sprinkling in of colorful language that we all use if we are willing to be honest about it.

    • Robert Bradley January 30, 2017, 10:15 am

      Your comment was don’t watch it if you don’t like it. Well, we have two problems with your questionable logic: first, you must watch to know the content and second, since this is a public forum you must, yeah, you are forced to deal with public comment, good or bad. Now for the good part; the English language is full of descriptive words…curse words demonstrate ignorance and stupidity and in your case, a desire to justify same. Good day.

      • Ron January 30, 2017, 4:00 pm

        Well, most regular viewers on this site will (or should) know what they’re getting with Clay.

        Sometimes curse words demonstrate that you’re comfortable talking with your audience. I would hope he would control it in a venue where decorum is important, and suspect he does. (i.e. Church, or something similar).

        But one should expect rough talk from rough men, and I get the idea Clay is the real deal.

  • tiremule January 30, 2017, 9:36 am

    The shop I work at received one of these about a week before Shot Show 2017. The following day we were contacted by the distributor telling us to ship it back ,because it wasn’t to be released before Shot Show. No one who handled the R9 cared for it,so the boss told distributor to credit our account and not return it to us after Shot Show.
    P.S. UNRELATED : SAD TO SEE THE HEADBANGR INTRO & EXIT MUSIC HAS RETURNED TO VIDEOS .It was nice when it was gone during Shot Show .

  • KC SMITH January 30, 2017, 9:34 am

    Wow, I guess Remington didn’t spend enough advertising money with GunsAmerica.

  • Steve January 30, 2017, 9:27 am

    Are you in a meat locker? Can see your breath and you are dressed for it. What gives?

  • Griffendad January 30, 2017, 9:17 am

    You can be as brutal as you like in a review provided each review follows the same routine. None here at all, just profanity and bad grammar. It seems to be the trend in the field and makes the gun enthusiast look unintelligent.
    As you passed on reviewing the weapon, I’ll also be passing on future reviews.
    Let’s bring some class to weapon reviews, dare to be different. Show you made it past high school.
    By the way, you kind of look like a 20 round magazine in a 15 round grip in that shirt.

    • John doeser January 30, 2017, 9:58 am

      Hmmm, I heard an honest review and no profanity. Are you a secret REM troll?

    • John doeser January 30, 2017, 10:04 am

      Wow REM is pushing back hard against your article here clay. I think what clay is trying to say people is shame on you Remington billion dollar company who did no r&d whatsoever. Next time steal Glocks design like everyone else. Not highpoint and Taurus ugghhh. And your ammo sucks too. Some of the worst shooting in every category.

    • Steve Alexander January 30, 2017, 10:05 am

      Well said! Thank you sir, thank you. Agree 100%. I won’t be watching anymore of his reviews either. On top of it I can’t take him seriously with the arrogant know it all attitude and the annoying head banger music. I’ve done my share of cursing but it’s not needed in a thoughtful serious review. It’s a sign of limited vocabulary and intellect.

      • Vince Bell January 30, 2017, 12:58 pm

        Steve, it seems you have the limited vocabulary as you keep posting the same response over and over. Recent scientific studies have shown that people of high intelligence actually use more so called profanity than those of average IQ, they just use it correctly and in context. Just because your Mom an Sunday school teacher told you cursing was a sign of limited vocabulary and intellect doesn’t make it so.

  • Chris January 30, 2017, 9:04 am

    Finally! A review that’s honest! I was getting sick of people loving EVERY SINGLE new gun that comes to market. Thanks for your honest review Clay and thank you for your service…I could tell from your SHOT Show video that you weren’t really impressed with that pistol.

  • george from fort worth January 30, 2017, 8:57 am

    bidness is bidness. no more, no less. ya want hand-built, old world craftsmanship, or ya want broad variety and a full supply chain at “decent” prices? point being, companies exist to serve the owners/shareholders, once upon a time there mighta been uh unstated compact between manufacturers and customers. a compact that meant the company would sacrifice maximum profits in order to survive and serve customers in tuh the future. ain’t nuthin’ like that enny more. short-term profit beats long-term relationships. there wuz a day when repeat customer was a holy grail for commerce. since about tha lass 40 years, the mantra is “give me a shot at everyone, once, and i’ll git rich”. thare’s no place left for nostalgia and mass production to live peacefully together. ya want that old time quality, pay for it through the mega-buck companies that claim to still build old time quality. or buy a GLOCK and be done with it.

  • Mark January 30, 2017, 8:56 am

    If you want to know why these firearms are being poorly designed, just look at the way the company is managed. I think everyone should buy from non Freedom Group companies and help them make more and better products. Why put any money into a company that appears not to care about the consumer or the sport.

  • Don Parker January 30, 2017, 8:52 am

    Just look at the people that are Hunting The Pre 64 model Winchesters, Pre 64 S&W’s Pre 64 Colts, Pre 64 Rem. Wake up, Bring back Original, Inside and out, the companies will have to hire more people just to keep up day to day sales. Seems funny, that products were made better then. Oh , I forgot. They were made by hand, With Pride. Then we got Fast machines, Oh, the computer will check it, hand fit it. Polish the parts. Yes we are Rem,Win, Smith, Colt, they know are name. That will sell our products. Bring back Wood, lots of Grain, Somthing that we would be Proud to pass on to our Son’s and Daughters.

    • Ddubyahz January 30, 2017, 8:51 pm

      Henry has my $$

  • Kyreloader January 30, 2017, 8:46 am

    To think you weren’t going to get taken to task for this is arrogant and foolish. Bad form Clay Martin.
    There is no reason to write this way, this is the last article I will read written by you. (Believe that sh*t!)

  • robert hall January 30, 2017, 8:45 am

    IT WORKS GREAT AS A HAMMER.

  • Tom January 30, 2017, 8:35 am

    REFRESHING Honest Review!
    Clay you rock.

    Thank you,

  • Bill Scott January 30, 2017, 8:33 am

    I just purchased a new RP9 last week. I totally disagree with the authors writeup on the RP9. I am 5’10” 190 lbs. The most appealing thing to me IS the grip. Most hi-cap full sized auto-loaders feel like holding a ball bat by the large end. This grip could not fit me better. The width of the slide is nearly the same as my Sig 226 which I love. The overall heigth is perhaps 1/4-3/8 more than the Sig, but the RP9 has an 18 round mag, my Sig is 12 round. I’ve had it to the range once. I had a full box of Federal FMJ, fired all 50 without a hiccup. Took a bag of cast lead bullet reloads also. I reloaded these with just enough power to operate the toggle of my 1917 DWM Luger so as not to beat it up any more than necessary. These gave me some problem ejecting the emptys. This is probably because it is marked 9m/m +P. Maybe a little stiffer spring? I also really liked the price. I love my Sig, but it’s in the $1300.00 range msrp. At below $400.00 the Remington is a good buy. I am not much of a fan of autoloaders. I prefer revolvers. Concealed S&W mod 49, range S&W 19, and 586.

  • Don Parker January 30, 2017, 8:29 am

    Just look at the people that are Hunting the Pre 64 model Winchesters, Pre 64 S&W’s pre 64 Colts, Wake up, Bring back Original, Inside and out, the companies will have to hire more people just to keep up day to day sales. Seems funny, that products were made better then. Oh , I forgot. They were made by hand, With Pride. Then we got Fast machines, Oh, the computer will check it, hand fit it. Polish the parts. Yes we are rem, win, smith, they know are name. That will sell our products.

  • Dirk January 30, 2017, 8:27 am

    Look into the ownership of Freedom Group…..

  • Samslimovich January 30, 2017, 8:25 am

    Almost had a Madonna sounding dialogue.

  • 308Tom January 30, 2017, 8:20 am

    I notice you spend a full paragraph trashing the grip, but did you notice and consider trying the other two grip inserts that come in the box?

    Setting a subjective view of aesthetic appearance aside, mine works and for the price point is a good shooter.

    RP9 Sights are good, the trigger has a nice take-up and break. BUT – had a mushy inconsistent reset out of the box. I found that the small coil spring that returns the trigger bar to the rest position was twisted on its forward mount. A simple push down on the outer edge of the spring hook rotated the spring hook it to be horizontal. Now the reset is consistent and distinct. Not a pronounced snap or click like a Glock, but a clearly audible and tactilely distinct and consistent reset.

    It is a large gun, definitely not for deep cover concealed carry – but for open carry, range, or house gun it will be fine.

    • mike360000 January 30, 2017, 11:17 am

      Bill Scott or 308 Tom should be your gun review writers, not Clay. Those 2 managed to do something unheard of today. They actually managed to review a firearm. Plus they didn’t even cuss in the process.

      Just as real quality has been replaced by machines and automation, so too has the writing and social skills of modern authors. We now live in a world where both objective and subjective approaches means nothing, and has been replaced by emotions based on how they feel while leading the readers to simply accept another’s emotional judgement as fact. They even throw in vile language to better express their emotions.

      Sadly this is typical of the liberal and dumbed down generations of today. No more quality writers exist such as Jack O’Connell or Townsend Whelen.

      This guy Clay, if this is the best that can be offered as a gun writer, then I’ll just pass on reading gun articles. I don’t read many such articles in my old age anyway, as I grew up read real firearms authors. Sadly, just as my better days are gone, so to are the days of the real gun writers.

      Michael Lamb

  • LCDR USN Ret January 30, 2017, 8:20 am

    Was it really necessary to be so coarse and vulgar in the title? Couldn’t you have a less than stellar review of a product without being a neanderthal? Language and attitudes like that are why a large chunk of Americans think that gun-owners are a bunch of redneck yahoos–which the large majority are not.
    If you’re going to do a serious review Clay, then take it seriously.

    • Rouge1 January 30, 2017, 9:27 am

      You must be from that new navy lcdr? You know the one where obama purged all of the real men and replaced them with Transgenderd loons who don’t know if they are a he she or it.

      • john olson January 30, 2017, 12:05 pm

        I am 72 years old, retired USAF MSgt, two tour Vietnam Vet and having been born on a cattle ranch I have been shooting all forms of guns since I could walk. Over the years, I have read practically every gun magazine and book I could lay my hands on including many real manly ones like “Hell, I Was There” by Elmer Keith and most of those by other true outdoorsmen. This guy Clay is a far cry from what I would expect from a man’s man. His language is an embarrassment and does nothing to add to his rather idiotic gun review other than to give the Anti 2nd Amendment crowd a “I told you so, those gun owners are nothing but illiterate idiots” more ammunition to fight us with. With this being said, I will find other places to find reviews of interesting firearms in the future and will avoid this site like a plague!

        • Paul Helinski January 30, 2017, 12:47 pm

          Hi. I’m not going to reply to all of these comments, but I’d like to reply to this one. I am Clay’s boss, and I made the call to run this as is rather than make him re-shoot it.

          It is apologists like you, John, who have cost us our freedom. The truth, that more guns equals less crime, and less government tyranny, has been true since the advent and propagation of the firearm several centuries ago. There were more guns in Japan during that time than the rest of the world, and they were all taken away so that the oligarchs and crime families could retain their power. Guns have always put power in the hands of the people, where it belongs.

          The “Anti 2nd Amendment crowd” are mostly followers being led by the leaders of special interests and corrupt church leaders. They knee jerk repeat what they are told to repeat, and they don’t care for reasons, or reason in general. They don’t need Clay or anyone else to give them talking points.

          Your generation has been the problem. You were easily bought off with prosperity to agree to just about anything the current oligarchs and ruling class threw at you. As long as you got your white picket fence and SUV in the driveway, you lapped up whatever they dumped down your throat. First it was to close your eyes while our entire manufacturing base was sent to China. Then it was a permanent security state based on the inside job of 911, and most recently it was to jump sides and push for “reasonable” gun legislation after the hoax known as Sandy Hook, where nobody died.

          So now our generation, those of us with young kids, are facing the inescapable reality that their future has been sold off by your generation so that you could live and die in comfort, leaving them a planet that is melting down, a nation that has been hollowed by offshore labor and currency debasement, and a leadership and news media that are among the worst that humanity has ever had to offer.

          That is why, as the owner of GunsAmerica, I would be extremely pleased if you and your ilk of “men’s men” would just go away and avoid us like the plague. The lot of you just want to cling to your old false reality that was never true, not even at the height of 50s euphoria, or when Ronald Reagan ran the roost.

          Clay’s review is rough around the edges, true. He could and should have demonstrated the problems with the gun while firing it, but as the rep from Remington explained, this gun is more a competitor in the market with a Hi-Point and Ruger American than it is with a Glock or Springfield. In many ways, his attitude detracts from the things he says. I agree.

          For GunsAmerica, I chose to run this as is, mainly because I believe that Remington was intentionally injected with empty suits as leadership in hopes that it would melt down and go away. The same thing was done to all of the other Cerberus investments, and Remington and Marlin are in their last dying gasps, to join Para, DPMS and Bushmaster, all brands that were leaders in their fields before Cerberus bought them.

          Clay’s attitude is correct. The management and employees of Remington should never have stood by while their company was taken apart at the seams. Dead silence from inside the company is all we have seen though debacle after debacle, and all of those people knew they were putting out crap. Like everyone else, they sold their silence for a paycheck and a (promised) pension.

          If GunsAmerica is the lone voice that stands up and says hey this isn’t right, Remington is Remington, not Hi-Point, then I guess we’ll just yell louder, and perhaps we’ll even entertain more swear words. -ph

          • robert January 30, 2017, 2:45 pm

            Hi Paul, I enjoyed reading all these contrasting comments in regards to Clay’s Remington review. I would like to make a couple of suggestions, first, if you are Clay’s boss then why don’t you give him a raise so that he can buy a little heater for his meat locker. Second, I have never enjoyed head banger music however I do enjoy the piece that you use for your intro and exit. It seems to aggravate my wife. lol.

          • ZeroBias January 30, 2017, 5:50 pm

            Hey Paul, you are right. I’ll just delete this site and search for better content. Most of the drivel that comes from this site is a waste of time. Time is too precious. Since you seem to prefer the profane, let me join you. Go fuck yourself. Now. that feels better.

          • Paul Helinski January 30, 2017, 7:13 pm

            Doesn’t it?

  • Mike January 30, 2017, 8:09 am

    Really people?!
    Don’t give this prick any credence.
    His reviews are meaningless and comical and that is why I watch.
    He can’t complain about the decent trigger but he bitches about over travel.
    S&W and Glock are his comparison guns? Why do you suppose that is?
    Sheesh

    • Alan January 30, 2017, 9:17 am

      Really Mike?!!?!
      Remington is a well known and storied name in firearms, are we then NOT to expect better?!
      And using Glock as a comparison or baseline is common sense, they have ruled the roost for decades.
      Would you prefer he use a Colt 1911?!?!
      Seems YOU allow your dislike of the man to color your opinion.
      So, he can’t allow his dislike of the pistol and disappointment in Remington to ‘color’ his review???
      Say, what are reviews for?!?!?!
      Sheesh.

      • Mike January 30, 2017, 2:05 pm

        Sheesh Alan
        This was not a review, it was an assault. Everything he bitched about a perspective gun owner can review by themselves in the store even before taking this pistol to the range. This will fit peoples hands, some people will like the fit. I agree with some other commentor earlier who stated what about the FTF? Reliability. Etc
        Go suck him if you like his comments so much. I think he’s a hack who has a lot to learn. So do you after you read between these reviews.
        1911? Yep I have a bunch as well as several plastic guns.

        • Alan January 31, 2017, 4:36 pm

          Back at ya Mike.
          Now since you’re the know all end all of these things, why aren’t you doing gun reviews?????
          Look, not EVERYONE is a firearm “expert” like you, ANY article that covers this stuff has to be to a varied audience, not just the gunnies and gun nuts.
          Your narrow minded “assault” is no better than the article you’re assaulting, or can’t you see that with your “expert” blinders on???
          So, you bitch about a guy bitching?????
          BTW, my point of the comparison to Glock that you bitched about is spot on.
          ANY similar item in ANY market WILL BE compared to the #1 market holder, or don’t you get that either???
          So C’mon, Man up and say you were partially wrong.

  • Jim Murray January 30, 2017, 7:59 am

    Remington has torpedoed itself. The NEW R-51 is worse than the RP-9. I bought one, You could not run a box of shells without at least one jam. Point of impact was 4″ low and 4″ left at 15 yds. Had to send it back at 150 rds as it would not fire at all. Cause, debris in the firing pin block! Take notice of the fired cases primers, they all look like a serious over pressure problem. I also had one bulged case with missing primer. Repair gunsmith said the pistol was only designed for 124 gr. bullets. I got it back with a new slide and still got jams so it got sold. Now my Model 7 is going back in for trigger lawsuit. I am not trying to be a harsh critic of Remington, these are just the facts.

    • Ken January 30, 2017, 12:01 pm

      This is for all of those that said “I’m through with Remington”, does that mean all or just handguns. Just cause they make a handgun that sounded good on paper and did not translate too a well built firearm that should have clearly needed more testing or designing. The Colt 1911 works well for several people, but not for me. After a 1k rounds of shooting I thought a 45 acp was a pile of junk, so I bought a glock g20 and some win 230 gr. fmj ,put 13 rounds in it, set up a wooden stake that measured 18 in tall by 1.5 in wide, stepped back 50 feet and shot. My review after that changed me about 45 acp ammo, that is more about the ergonomics that the ammo. I put 11 rounds in a 1.5 in wide stake, which was good for me. For any who read this good hunting and or range time for all.

      • Ken January 31, 2017, 6:52 am

        Sorry about the typo, it is a g21. My g20 is a 10mm which has been plagued with ftf isssues and still tryng too find the best ammo as in grain and manufacture for it.

  • Mike Madaus January 30, 2017, 7:58 am

    It seems as though Remington is in a rush to produce one poor gun after another. I would not trade my Gen II R 51 for this! Yes I purchased one of these without even owning the first generation. I just thought they could not would not screw it up twice! They did! Then came out with this? I will never buy anything Remington again!

    • Ken January 30, 2017, 12:15 pm

      So no rem 700s, 1100s or 870s for anyone!

  • Gene Simmons January 30, 2017, 7:55 am

    But how did it SHOOT??

  • Adam January 30, 2017, 7:45 am

    It is refreshing to read a review of a firearm, from a large and well known company, that is honest. Thank you

  • Paul W. Betz January 30, 2017, 7:41 am

    They brought out Para Ordnance, trashed customer service, left Para customers swinging in the breeze. I don’t care if this Remington product was the second coming of Glock, NO MORE Big Green for this boy-yo! EVER!

  • Ivan57 January 30, 2017, 7:30 am

    Mr. Martin’s review was far from impartial, he seems to be personally offended and angry. His review is really only his highly-biased opinions.

    • Mike January 30, 2017, 7:44 am

      Other than when he talks about the “Feel” of the grip his criticisms look to be backed up with pictures.
      That makes them more like honest observations to me.
      He is correct about one thing for sure. I can look at it and tell I don’t want one.

    • Dave Ope January 30, 2017, 8:07 am

      Yea, thats what a review is….. its an opinion of what they thought…da!

  • MidWestMike January 30, 2017, 7:25 am

    Wow! Brutal but honest. What a sad decline. I have owned my 1100 trap for almost 40 years and it works aa well today as the day I bought it new. When I went to a well know retail sporting goods store I inquired about a new 1100 and was told they didn’t carry them any more because of poor quality. Boy was I surprised.

    • SW January 30, 2017, 9:17 am

      Well as they say, it’s just an opinion of one person. I too have owned 4, 1100 Rem. and still have 2 at this time. By far ,the Best auto shotgun of its time. As far as the well known retail store goes,I’ve talked to many that work there, and have been told some of the most unbelievable story over the years about guns LOL. There is “NO” poor quality ever put into an 1100 Remington. I will agree the newer Remington auto’s have some nice improvements such as the ability to handle different size shells in one gun etc. But to say that the 1100 is of poor quality is total B.S.Some of these people that are employed at these stores would be better working at Mc Donalds screwing up your order, than to try to impress you with their lack of knowledge. My 1100 ‘s will be handed down ,with pride, to my grandsons.

  • Bill January 30, 2017, 7:24 am

    This is really sad and somewhat scary, but tough reviews like this have become common for member companies of The Freedom Group. Remington and Marlin have both been getting raked over the coals with regularity, and there is also word (rumors?) that the Group brass is killing both H&R and Para Ord. With so many of our bedrock gun companies under one banner, the opportunity for corporate disaster is right there…….. Vista Outdoor, the parent company of Savage, Federal, CCI, Outers, Bushnell and a bunch of others is another case in point. Here’s hoping………….

    • ToddB January 30, 2017, 8:13 am

      They already killed H&R. At first they pretended they were just moving the factory telling people the barrel program would be up and running soon, then that was it, no more H&R. Freedom group had sucked the marrow out, hocked it to the limit, now it was time to take their profits and run. With the horrible quality of Remington weapons, how long before they cant find anymore suckers and Remington is treated the same as H&R? But hey so long as some rich people made money its all good.

      • carl m November 1, 2017, 12:51 pm

        The rich has sold us out, more and more customers are asking me to find older firearms they are a better quality made back in the days. Workers and owners gave a damn back then to make a quality product, now just about money.

        BTW one of my wholesalers told me that George Soros is buying all these firearm companies just to put them out of business. He also has been trying to buy the ammunition manufacturers to do the same. Has anybody else heard the same?

  • BillyBob January 30, 2017, 7:18 am

    Funny how all these pieces of poop striker f ire\’s are JUST GLOCK COPYS with perfume added !

  • Jeffrey L. Frischkorn January 30, 2017, 7:12 am

    Geeezee, Clay, why don’t you tell us how you really feel… Actually, it’s nice to see a gun writer speak his mind about a product that he (or she) doesn’t approve of as much as reading glowing reports of guns they either do like or else are willing to gloss over shortcomings.. Or just as bad, not do a review because they’re worried about offending a firearms manufacturer…

  • Lou Bethel January 30, 2017, 7:07 am

    Really dude? And how many weapons have you designed?
    You could tell by looking at it?
    You didn’t even invest 100 rounds, but you trashed the pistol?
    Not much of a review, and you quoted other reviews.
    Very disappointing.
    But you do have cute gloves.

    • Alan January 30, 2017, 9:10 am

      Designed?!?
      So, now to be a critic of a firearm, one must be a designer?!?!?!
      Get real.
      Your review of his review leaves much to be desired.

      • mike360000 January 30, 2017, 11:27 am

        Gotta have some intelligence and commonsense to review any firearm. Being a firearms designer is a moot point. BTW, showing courtesy and respect in one’s writings also is the first sign of intelligence and commonsense. Sorry I didn’t see any here.

  • Nick S January 30, 2017, 7:00 am

    I never thought a company could commit suicide, but this appears to be the second massive design failure by Remington in a short period of time. I suppose if its name were not so well known (and they do sell other decent guns), this outfit would have already imploded. Whoever is killing off share price needs to be replaced before the company’s reputation completely goes down the toilet.

  • Dan January 30, 2017, 6:58 am

    Well I think Big Green (BG) has really done Marlin a very big favor! If you’ve seen the latest ones out they are very well put together ,actions are smooth ,finished are right on for the money! Yes, when BG first took overmaking Marlin lever actions they were crap. All in all they used the worn out machinery at first! Now they have retooled now making quality lever action guns. Now for the new pistol……. it’s all in the eyes of the beholder…… matter of taste and pocket book! I don’t like the looks of it either. But, I don’t buy any thing I don’t like the looks of. Why be disappointed! Still make in USA! Giving Americans jobs!

  • Tim Robinson January 30, 2017, 6:28 am

    Speaking of quality control, when I click on the article title “A PLASTIC 1911? THE EAA WITNESS 1911P .45 ACP—FULL REVIEW” in the email that GUNS AMERICA sent me, I get directed to this article instead.

  • roger January 30, 2017, 6:12 am

    The Canik PT9SF or SA is actually a better deal. Great trigger, 2 mags, holster, loader and + at $350 it Cost a lot less too. JMO

  • Robert January 30, 2017, 6:12 am

    Remington builds great firearms. The new RP-9….having a large slide for a nine millimeter…….Could .45 and or 10mm be in the works? To keep costs down, wouldn’t a “one fits all” slide be saving money for the buyer?

    • coreya January 30, 2017, 9:37 am

      You don’t design a 9mm gun with a .45 sized slide hoping to then use the same slide for .45. At least no serious manufacturer would do do so for any number of good reasons….

  • Brett Antonacci January 30, 2017, 6:06 am

    “Form over function and I get that”.
    I don’t “get that” and believe that there can be, and should be, an equitable balance of the two; the venerable M 1911 is one example of such a balance….

  • Larry Bentz January 30, 2017, 6:01 am

    REMINGTON: I’m so glad someone from the gun press
    finally had the stones to say it. Thank You! A great American Company, synonomous with quality and durability has become complacenct. I pick up a Remington weapon, I actually look on the weapon to make sure its not made in Asia or Mexico. Who would have believed 10 years ago that SAVAGE would be higher quality than Big Green is today. The Marketing folks seem more concerned with pasting “Remington Quality” on imported junk like knives, clothes ubiquitous at the discount chains . On the contrary, every piece of mediocre, made-in-china product, sporting the Remington label spends all the brand reputation gravitas they spent decades earning. They have become the heavy, red-plaid woolrich jacket in a market full of hi-tech materials.

    • Mike Carey January 30, 2017, 8:43 am

      Yep!

  • mikey January 30, 2017, 5:56 am

    Wow brutal.. maybe being a grown man sitting in a unheated shed in the back yard has put you in bad mood. I dont like Remington either, especially there pistols but to be fair I would shoot the thing and report on its function and accuracy. Also referencing youtube videos as part of your reason for bad review is poor. The pistol doeset look like something I would want but lets be fair do a real review. Also Highpoint is junky and just big but they sell tons of them because they go bang and are priced right. This Remington is reported to retail around $380.00. Just saying.. Most gun guys know better but im sure theres a market if the price is right and it goes bang.

    • Elnonio January 30, 2017, 6:36 am

      To be fair, most reviewers get a lot of flak when readers can tell the reviewer holds back on criticism, on account that they’re catering to manufacturers and their $$$$.
      Not of fan of most of his articles, but I can’t say he held back here!

  • wtsane January 30, 2017, 5:46 am

    Remington, Dying… Colt, on life support while offering a Charter Arms revolver clone, and a $2500 Ar15A1 reboot. How bloody hard can it be to sell American firearms in this market? Come on guys, you are not just killing your companies, you are killing history.
    Suggestions:
    Colt: reissue the Agent, Detective Special, and Python to original specs. Release caliber kits for 1911’s (7.62×25 would sell as fast as you could make them)
    Remington: Reissue the Targetmaster series for youths (510/511/512) through the NRA as a youth rifle. You used ot be able to make 1903A3 and 1917 Rifles, get back to that

    Both companies: remove your collective heads from your rearmost sphincters. Stop marketing and start making. The shooting would is full of plastic, and companies that will always do plastic better than you. Go with what made your names, steel.

    • 97bravo20 January 30, 2017, 9:03 am

      Well said WTsane. I would add that selling the name Remington for branding purposes should be eliminated or restricted based on a review of the product to carry the name. As another reader pointed out, putting their name on every piece of junk knife, keychain, flashlight etc etc etc only serves to dilute the brand. If they were to compare the money they make from selling the brand name against the damage they are doing to their reputation I think they would stop. Getting back to basics is the only solution to a double header of disastrous releases. Customer loyalty is like s marriage, everyone makes mistakes. However I f the marriage is strong the errors are forgiven and you move on. Stop letting your marketing department and the bean counters run the company. Build a pistol you know you are capable of building, build it with quality as your guide, build it here in the USA, sell it for a fair price and watch what happens. You have millions of loyal customers. They will forgive and forget provided you don’t make the same mistake too many times and more important, you don’t take them for granted.

  • Chris Heatley January 30, 2017, 5:25 am

    Well done Clay for speaking your mind and giving an honest review. I wish our gun journalists over here in the UK would be so honest instead of just sucking up to whoever is giving them free gear this month.

  • Kivaari January 30, 2017, 5:02 am

    How did the gun function? Big muzzle flip! Reliable?

    • Ralph January 30, 2017, 7:22 am

      He was too busy bashing the looks of the gun instead of function. Maybe if the jerk would have put a little heat on in the shed or maybe put a jacket on he wouldn’t have been in such a bad mood. I don’t care for Remington firearms. I have had several and always had found other companies to perform a bit better but for this guy to just come out of the box swinging the way he did is a bit unnerving and very unprofessional at best. He reminded a bit of the liberals walking around with vaginas on their heads with the “my way or the highway” attitude. I see enough of this crap on the news every day and don’t need it here.

      • John doeser January 30, 2017, 10:11 am

        Maybe you guys should have actually read the review. He said it was unreliable and he wouldn’t waste money on more ammo

        • Kivaari January 30, 2017, 6:51 pm

          What I read is he read other reviews that said it was unreliable so he didn’t bother to do much shooting.

  • ED January 30, 2017, 5:00 am

    Remington took over for Marlin a while back building 1895 levers, and screwed them up with lousy millwork. they need to fire EVERYONE in the front office, and start over. Drain the Swamp!!

  • Hank January 30, 2017, 4:55 am

    Looking for review of eaa 1911

  • Rodney Clark January 30, 2017, 4:21 am

    So sad to see an American icon going the wrong way. Hopefully they can turn it around. Maybe someone will take them away from the Wall Street equity firm before it’s too late.

  • BUURGA January 30, 2017, 3:07 am

    The article probably would have more of an impact if the author didn’t have the vocabulary of a 12-year old.

  • Tom Carvelli Sr. January 28, 2017, 8:07 pm

    Remington is rapidly becoming a “do not buy” gun. Just look at the ugly, thick recoil pads on some of the M700 rifles. They should have redesigned the push round feed a long time ago. After having several failure to fire problems with nice bucks in the crosshairs AND failure to feeds I sold all of my Remington M700 rifles. Ruger, Winchester and Kimber are all far better CRF bolt action rifles. For a while Remington made a high quality pump but over time they made it cheaper and ugly with skimpy checkering and a skinny pistol grip. The rifle has always been a little heavy and they have done nothing to try to lighten it. A 20 inch lightweight barrel would be a good start. Maybe they could be a little creative and build one in the 450 Bushmaster or 458 SOCOM. A super lightweight in 6.5 Creedmore or 6.5-284 would also get folks excited. They could do it if they WANTED to. I still have a 20 ga. 870 shotgun that I like very much but it is an older one so I don’t know about the new ones. From all of the negative reports I have been reading about Remington firearms I would be very cautious about buying any new Remington. Remington needs to “drain the swamp” in their design department. They need to start building firearms that excite consumers. Quality control at Remington also needs to be looked at. I bought a brick of Remington primers once that were packaged in the wrong boxes. A fellow in a gun shop in Montana told me once they had received a M700 with no rifling in the barrel. Other manufactures are making Remington look like a bunch of greedy, stubborn old fools are running the company. If they fail they will have only themselves to blame.

    • Brett Antonacci January 30, 2017, 6:13 am

      I can’t totally agree with your comments regarding the M 700 rifle but my only example is more than 25 years old and may represent a time when the Remington line of firearms were better made. My Remington M 742 is likewise a design that is well received by the shooting public and for good reason.
      Nonetheless, as you stated, Remington recently seems to be almost blindly clutching at anything to attempt to make a massive ‘score’ in the market rather than producing a product that is worth the purchase price….

  • Zeno Streletz January 28, 2017, 7:04 pm

    The best way to show your under appreciation is to buy
    something else. Quit your bitching.

    • Kyle January 30, 2017, 5:43 am

      That’s his JOB to review and give his opinion about the firearm in question. It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t like the firearm but considering people subscribe for his reviews, it’s what he does. That’s like a food or movie critic not liking what they are or saw and stating as much. Take his advice or don’t. But don’t be an ass about it!

  • Martin B January 27, 2017, 3:45 pm

    I am so glad that whenever I have gone shopping for a rifle or shotgun, I have gone elsewhere than Remington. I went Winchester 70 and Mossberg (actually Maverick – I preferred the safety forward of the trigger, as per Ruger 10/20 or numerous others). I just didn’t like the way the Remingtons looked or felt in action. The ergonomics seemed all wrong. Just because millions of people have bought them doesn’t make them good, or good enough for me. Not enough thought put into the design, and build quality didn’t seem good enough either, at the low price end of their range. I feel much better about my choices now.

  • Cliff Smith January 27, 2017, 3:27 pm

    Having just received my RP9 yesterday, I was a little scared taking the pistol to the range. While I do appreciate the brutal honesty of the review, I can report that the pistol is very accurate out of the box and I ran 200 rounds through it with no problems noted. The extra trigger play mentioned in the review did not affect range work–maybe I have a dumb trigger finger–on both hands? I do wish Remington would have had extra magazines for sale on this pistol–none to be found–even on Remington site–so that could be a better roll out? I rate this a good buy for the 386.00 I paid.

    • Timothyf7 January 29, 2017, 3:01 pm

      I am happy you have had no problems with your purchase. You are obviously right handed, since the left handed slide release is ornamental. But it seems that the people that are getting a good, fully functional pistol, are the exception and not the rule. This is where the problem lies. I’ve read on some sites, they they have been recalled and on others that they haven’t. So not really sure on that. You may want to check on this. But these pistols have not been extensively tested prior to release, as evidenced by the number of video’s showing the flaws. I will not risk my life on a pistol that is just thrown into the market. Enjoy your working model, but I will not take a chance.

      • Roger January 30, 2017, 5:42 am

        You need to learn to be humble and stop using silly cliche’s and catch phrases that are way over-used and old. And not everything is about you. You think you can make a better pistol? Then do it. Your knocking a product like you are so much better is not appealing.

        • Ed Maple January 30, 2017, 7:22 am

          Cliche is? Cliche has? Wait, what?

  • DRAINO January 27, 2017, 2:16 pm

    Remington needs what America needs…..a Donald Trump!!!! Get rid of the crap and rebuild!!!!! When Remington does this, they will come back strong….but not till then.

  • SuperG January 27, 2017, 10:47 am

    Greed killed Remington. They brought in a CEO that “maximized” profit by using cheap parts and forgoing QA. In essence, the brand is ruined, and for me, it is ruined permanently. I will never consider the brand again, for anything. Thanks for getting to the point right off the bat in the review too, and for toning down that acid rock “Scream”.

    • clay martin January 27, 2017, 3:16 pm

      some things can only be said bluntly. Remington needs to scrap this abortion, and whoever approved its release, and work on something else.

  • Mark Tercsak January 27, 2017, 7:58 am

    The problem with Remington is they do not listen.

    Too Their Customer’s………..

  • Will Drider January 26, 2017, 6:46 pm

    Now that’s a “this ain’t no shit” Review! With the exception of the R1911, Remington has not done well thring to get back into the pistol market. They need Handgun Talent at all levels if they are going to turn this around.

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