Giffords Anti-Gun Group Asking Web Hosts to Pull Plug on Ghost Gun Websites

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Gabrielle Giffords, Eric Holder, Robyn Thomas, and Mark Kelly (Photo: Giffords Law Center)

Gabby Giffords’ gun control organization is angling to pull the plug on websites that sell do-it-yourself gun kits, commonly known as “ghost guns.”

The Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence sent letters last week to Shopify, Inc. and DreamHost Inc., the web hosts for GhostGunner.net and GhostGuns.com.

Citing a recent shooting in Tehama County, CA, the group asked those internet service providers to shut down the popular providers of 80 percent receivers.

“The recent mass shooting in Northern California underscored how dangerous it is when people legally prohibited from owning guns can go online and buy do-it-yourself assault weapon kits from unaccountable companies with no background checks, and no questions asked,” said Adam Skaggs, Chief Counsel at Giffords Law Center, in a press release.

“But companies like Ghost Gunner and Ghost Guns are profiting from doing just that. The Internet Service Providers hosting their websites are contractually entitled to shut these dangerous websites down, and they can, and should, do so.”

SEE ALSO: Cody Wilson Drops New ‘Ghost Gunner’ Package, Adds 1911s and Glocks

The letters sent by Giffords make the following claims and suggestions:

  • The Internet Service Providers’ policies prohibit their customers from engaging in illegal activities and promoting illegal activities by consumers, and they allow the ISPs to shut down the websites they host at will
  • The ISPs should disable the websites, which sell deadly, unlawful products
  • Online purchases from the websites allows purchasers to avoid requisite background checks and to make firearms that cannot be traced by law enforcement
  • The websites’ products are illegal in multiple states, and aid and abet violations of state law by their customers

But the proprietors of Ghost Gunner and GhostGuns.com are pushing back against these specious remarks.  Reminding the public that their businesses are perfectly legal and promising to sue Giffords should it come to that.

“If and when Shopify should act against me as a result of this libelous attack, we’ll find out how good their [Giffords] legal team is,” said Cody Wilson, the founder of Defense Distributed, in an email to GunsAmerica.

Wilson’s responsible for creating the Ghost Gunner, a CNC mill that allows users to finish 80 percent lowers with ease. He also set the internet on fire when he introduced the Liberator, a 3D-printable gun, in 2013.

SEE ALSO: Why Gun Control is Ultimately Doomed to Fail

Kyle Martin, the president of Ghost America LLC, which runs GhostGuns.com, had the following Q&A with the NY Times.  Of course, the NY Times didn’t run his answers in full.  He sent them to GunsAmerica so his entire response could be heard.

NY Times: Is what you’re doing illegal as the Gifford Law Center claims?

Kyle Martin: The Gifford Law Center claims that we are violating terms of service as well as implying that building your own firearm is an “illegal, deadly behavior.” This is incorrect. We follow all State and Federal laws as applicable. DreamHost is aware of our business and has received documentation supporting the fact that what we do is completely legal. We fully believe in the 2nd Amendment and the complete freedom of the American people to continue building our own firearms and will continue to do business as usual.

NY Times: What kinds of customers do you interact with? Do you take any precautions with your transactions?

Kyle Martin: We deal with a lot of customers that are hobbyists, the majority of customers we have come into contact with already own firearms, have the mechanical skills to complete the manufacturing process, and come from all walks of life, including many military and law enforcement. We only ship to shipping addresses that match billing addresses along with a signed receipt of delivery so the packages are not just sitting on doorsteps. Our primary mission to educate people on gun ownership through the building process. To further this goal we will be holding free gun building and safety classes at our new retail Riverside, CA location when it opens in January of 2018.

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The idea of a ghost gun may make some gun owners squeamish. I get it. The idea of a criminal enterprise manufacturing ARs by the dozen is unsettling.  Yet, let’s be honest about it. Criminals have no issue procuring firearms. They never have. Between the dark web, theft, straw purchasers, getting a gun for them is easy.  In fact, probably the most difficult way for them to obtain one nowadays would be to build it.

Like the war on drugs has failed to stop widespread drug abuse, gun control has failed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.  What it has succeeded at, though, is disarming law-abiding citizens.  Slowly but surely, gun rights in states like New York, California, Connecticut are evaporating.

Because the end goal of government is to disarm the masses, ghost guns are a safeguard against that agenda.  They are a way to ensure that our right to keep and bear arms doesn’t go the way of the dinosaurs.  They are a political statement to the ruling class, as Cody Wilson said in an interview with Glenn Beck in 2013, “This is a symbol of irreversibility. They can never eradicate the gun from the earth.”

Yes, ghost guns, at their core, represent all of that. But for now, and the foreseeable future, they’re a fun way for hobbyists and collectors to spend an afternoon.

About the author: S.H. Blannelberry is the News Editor of GunsAmerica.

{ 12 comments… add one }
  • Bs April 14, 2018, 10:12 am

    Hello ! They are attorneys you couldn’t slap that smile off their faces. They are obviously being paid a ridiculous amount of money !

  • Ross Read April 13, 2018, 8:24 pm

    Why is ANYONE listening to Giffords? First; the only reason she’s still alive is a LAW ABIDING, RESPONSIBLE CCW holder used his weapon to STOP the Jan 8, 2008 attack in Tucson. Second: her HUSBAND committed a FEDERAL CRIME shortly after by purchasing an AR15 with the EXPRESS PURPOSE OF GIVING IT TO ANOTHER PARTY! Finally: had the Sheriff’s office in Tucson done their job, the attack on her would NEVER have happened
    But then again, I guess she can’t be faulted for her ignorance. You see, she likes. Her taxpayer paid congressional healthcare, so she was able to keep it. We just have to continue paying for it.

  • Grant December 6, 2017, 7:32 pm

    People maybe able to purchase gun components but they still need to go through a FFL to get the most important part… The receiver. Background checked every time by law abiding dealers. Criminals don’t worry about background checks. They steal.

  • Naturalist December 3, 2017, 12:48 pm

    Giffords is just a puppet and Schmuck Smelly is her puppet master. Schmuck Smelly even has to tell Giffords to go to the bathroom as she is not table to comprehend this normal activity on her own. Giffords inherited a profitableTire store named El Campo that was handed down by her parents. Unfortunately, Giffords was a Coke whore and the business was gone because of neglect and lack of funds that she was using for her habit. Schmuck Smelly tried to but an AR at a guns shop and they decided to not sell him the weapon for the reason of it being a Straw purchase. I believe that they really did not want to sell him the gun. The ship USS Giffords has been having problems just stopping for no reason. After several days of troubleshootingThey foud out that the computer system suffers from memory lapse and the memory cannot be fully restored.

  • John Stanton December 2, 2017, 5:44 pm

    Glad to see ex AG Holder in the picture. If anyone knows about “ghost guns” it’s the guy who was involved in getting all those guns into Mexico to track them. We all know just how well that went.

  • Somerset December 1, 2017, 4:48 pm

    Hmmm. Giffords, who is no national treasure, is just an ass that got shot who proudly stands with another America-hater, Barrack Odumbo’s jackass, Eric Holder. I would opt to have Giffords and brain-dead slugs like her investigated for anti-American and anti-Constitution activities. This woman is very dangerous for our republic. Can anyone imagine the horror this America-hater would be causing if Hillary got in? Makes me wonder what America-hating organization is backing Giffords. I’m guessing it’s the same one that backed Odumbo. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Caligula, yeah, these guys would adore Giffords.

    • Grant December 6, 2017, 7:34 pm

      👍👍👍

  • ray December 1, 2017, 3:07 pm

    I wonder what did Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly do with their AR15s? I’ve seen videos of them shooting one and they had NO back drop behind the target. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EsQPaPHfGA

  • joefoam December 1, 2017, 8:47 am

    Giffords gets shot and becomes a instant national treasure with everything from navy ships to congressional cloakrooms named after her. Scalese gets shot and all I hear is crickets chirping. Giffords should direct her efforts into saving the lives of the 480K Americans killed every year by tobacco or the 10s of thousands killed by alcohol, alcohol related diseases or auto accidents. Or how about the current new big killer-opioids. So how about we address the real risks to the population, is it because they will not get any air time? Does it not fit the media narrative? I can’t understand the thinking that restrictions on gun purchases or even the more radical total confiscation would change the amount of gun deaths in this country. Most gun deaths are by suicide, so if your going to kill yourself you will find another way. Next is gang violence, I’m thinking the criminals will not turn their weapons even if it comes to total confiscation.

  • shrugger December 1, 2017, 7:27 am

    Too late. That animal has already been released into the wild.

  • BIGKIELBASSA December 1, 2017, 7:19 am

    She wants to remove our 2nd Amendment rights, and now our 1st Amendment rights too ? Silly girl . She really does have brain damage .

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