Is Jade Helm About Firearm Confiscation?

Is the Jade Helm that the exercise is really about?

Is the Jade Helm that the exercise is really about?

This is a video of a city council meeting in Big Spring Texas on March 10, 2015. It was filmed by the Youtube account holder Kimberly York who speaks at 35:00. Listen to the details of the exercise, and please comment below on what you think this is all about. I ask myself how it is that our military is training on our soil, in our language, with our citizens and our societies, but that they could possibly be training for something besides a war on our soil.

Is this a Red Dawn style war? Clearly they want us to believe it is because they reference the French resistance during WWII. Why is it primarily in Texas? As the state most likely to succeed next, “We want the US military airdropping into our towns” was never said by any Texan ever. The whole thing smells like yesterday’s diapers! What other purpose would covert special forces have in Texas other than to infiltrate the resistance and confiscate firearms? Is Marshall Law coming in July and this is a smokescreen for the initial US military deployment on US soil?

Here are some points in the video:

  • At 3:14 of this video, the civilian contractor (a former special operations NCO) says that the Jade Helm exercise is for the “NEW FIGHT” and not about what they have been doing for the last 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan.
  • At 5:59 he explains that the exercise is about unconventional warfare. He explains that America services were with the (failed) French resistance in France during WWII.
  • 11:50 Explains that the operation is about using local resources, informants, and covert modes of transportation to infiltrate the local population.
  • 13:56 “Ordinary citizenss are the first to notice that something is different.”
  • 14:55 $150,000 local community bribe.
  • 16:44 Clandestine meetings in the cities with law enforcement.
  • 18:01 They will be carrying firearms with blank ammunitions, but whew, no explosions.
  • 19:30 Two trained trauma medics will be traveling with the units, and a third NCO medic to directly interface with the hospitals. Oh yay right?
  • 20:10 The brownshirts will have armbands, just like the SS!
  • 27:20 Currently UN NATO troops will be strictly US, but bringing in foreign troops has been “UNDER DISCUSSION.”
  • 30:00 We want the community to invite us here and not that we are here by force (until they say no).

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  • bastcilk doptb June 4, 2016, 10:29 am

    A lot of whatever you say happens to be astonishingly accurate and it makes me wonder why I hadn’t looked at this with this light previously. This particular article really did turn the light on for me as far as this issue goes. But at this time there is actually one factor I am not too cozy with and while I try to reconcile that with the central theme of your point, let me see exactly what all the rest of your subscribers have to point out.Nicely done.

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  • Joe Londino May 12, 2015, 3:55 pm

    Any active duty and armed services veterans know that our troops will never turn on their families and the families of their fellow servicemen. I think this is all a bunch of hooey.

  • Tom R May 12, 2015, 11:48 am

    BULLSHIT, a republican conspiracy theory. It should not be perpetuated. Somehow someone will get hurt.

  • U.B. Had! May 11, 2015, 10:13 am

    This is a tragedy waiting to happen. See someone sneaking around at night with a firearm, subject to be KILLED on site.
    Come to someone’s door, at night or day, with guns in their hands, more chances to get SHOT.
    This whole thing stinks, not enough information as to WHY their doing this.
    Glad not to be in one of the States being used for this nonsense.

  • Todd April 26, 2015, 4:46 am

    For those of you who don’t know, the USSOC, has been conducting operations in Big Springs Tx, since when I was in. Clear back in ’85 when I participated. This particular operation is ramped up from what we did. But, they have been there annually, that long.
    I know you guys think this is a conspiracy. This is what he says it is.
    And, per the comments in the article, the French resistance did not fail. Check the history books. We won. Problem came after WWII in that we did not predict what the Russians would do. Install communism in France.
    SF also does this type operation in Montana out of Ft. William Henry Harrison every year.

  • Missbaysdaddy April 23, 2015, 11:16 pm

    Take this training exercise to New Jersey and show them what Marshal Law and gun confiscation is all about. I do not like the idea of any thing like this going on in Texas or anywhere else in the south for that matter.

  • Russ April 21, 2015, 3:22 pm

    Well folks, this, and so much more, is coming to a head.
    I just want to say a few things.

    Don’t over react. Be ready and aware. Contact your State Militia for advice and information.
    They can help you out better than any of us keyboard warriors.
    Why do you name callers who think belittling fellow firearms enthusiasts with your “Tin Hat” references, is doing any good?
    You’re wrong, ignorant, and are offering no help at all.
    We’re all better off not hearing your bullshit reasoning. The Jedi mind trick isn’t working on us like it did on you.
    To the people just waking up, who can’t believe that our military could do us any harm.
    I just want you to please watch this short video.
    Bill Whittle is an intelligent guy who runs; [The Firewall] show, and can articulate this point to you better than I, about our Military.
    Please watch;

    That’s it.
    Good fortune to my fellow Americans, and good luck to all the rest.

  • Wade mcleod April 21, 2015, 7:39 am


  • Jeff April 21, 2015, 7:09 am

    Please don’t get too wound up about this and start getting all trigger happy, people. Most of those who comment here have cool heads even if they talk tough. But there are always one or two who may follow through, and that will be all the excuse this administration needs.
    I don’t trust this administration either. Don’t know about the rest of you, but I haven’t seen or heard of any intention to cancel the elections. As long as we can still vote without coercion there no reason to be opening up with hot lead.
    So cool off.

  • law dawg April 21, 2015, 1:16 am

    The wake up call for America has passed. The obama agenda started way before he was put into office by the big money boys…the question is when martial law does get implemented who Will be a patriot or sell out to the new world order. We are now seeing the destruction of our nation by the obama resime and it’s constituents. The Christians throughout the world are being slaughtered by Muslims and all stupid obama does is day how beautiful Islam is….that’s because he’s a Muslim. He doesn’t care about the united states or its Constitution…. The feds are hell bent on taking a law abiding citizens guns and rights…. Let’s hope our military and law enforcement entities wake up and take the right side against a tyrannical government. God bless the righteous man.

  • alec April 20, 2015, 9:44 pm

    Nice to see some rational thinkers here, with intelligence and logical thinking skills. But the wing-nuts are more scary than what they are scared of. Bunkers loaded and no where to fire off a few at the “boogie man” so sad, all that money wasted. oh well a bunker should someday make a nice man cave with a wide screen blue ray and some chilled brewskies. Stay thirsty my fellow nuts.

  • petru sova April 20, 2015, 9:04 pm

    About 2 weeks or so ago we had a Republican Senator say that since Congress will not do anything about the problems in the U.S. he recommended that the U.S. Military be sent in to take over Congress and then force Congress to do what he wanted them to do. Sound like Adolf Hitler all over again? Hitler was a conservative too, remember! Now suppose this nut got his way, do you really think the average American would do anything about it? Did the German population do anything about Hitler when he made himself dictator and took away all of their Constitutional rights? Of course they did not do anything because they thought he would never come after them personally. And remember when a few people who were using their heads realized what had happened Hitler simply made examples of them and killed them terrorizing the rest of the population and of course he said this will not happen to you because you were law abiding citizens that did what you were told to do. In other words when the Military takes over its not in one fell swoop but gradually until they have complete control over every one and by then its too late. The Military and the Leaders use a divide and conquer strategy that the anti-gunners used in the 1970’s and came very close to outlawing all guns in American as they played off one gun owner group against another. Be reasonable and give up this category of weapons today and we will leave the rest of you alone, until of course the next time comes around and we will ban more categories of weapons. The Military will do much the same, it worked for Hitler, it almost worked for the anti-gunners in the U.S. and it will work in the future because the average guy does not want to lose his home, his job, and his kids or his wife. He is willing to do just about anything the Government tells him to do until it gets to the point where he does not have enough to eat but by then its too late.

    Today with the lack of good paying jobs that were all shipped overseas which started under Reagan when he deliberately broke the power of the Unions because it was the Unions up to that time that were a powerful political force that was preventing him from shipping jobs overseas and the Unions were preventing corrupt greedy Industrialists from using the American Worker as a slave which today has come to pass with slave outfits like Wal-Mart who just this week shut down a number of stores because their employees wanted a decent livable wage and were earning wages so low that even though they were working they were still eligible for welfare because they do not have enough money out of their PART TIME CHECKS to even pay their heating bills or buy food.

    The idea that the Military will take over in one massive swoop is nonsense and the idea that the average American will have the will, the money, the organization and the ammo and enough weapons to start a resistance is pure Right Wing Fantasy. History has proven this many times. Even the French Resistance was an absolute failure because there was never enough money, ammo, weapons or will to resist. Remember when the Germans killed 600 people and wiped out an entire French town because they had killed just one Nazi leader. After that the Resistance in that section of France collapsed overnight. They admitted it just was not worth the horrific price in lives. Anyone out there dumb enough to think the same thing would not happen here? Although the Resistance bragged how much they did to defeat the Nazi’s it was an exaggeration as the only real fighting only took place when the Allies were practically at the gates of Paris and victory was a certainty.

    • Gen. Patton April 24, 2015, 11:54 am

      Wishy-washy B.S.
      I’d rather die as a FREE Man, than live a lifetime groveling on my knees, or unable to resist getting loaded into a boxcar, because I weigh only 90 lbs.
      God Bless the III%

    • richard smith March 1, 2018, 11:21 pm

      You said it all and I can’t add a thing. You got it covered. It’s just getting purple to open thief eyes. They been drinking three liberal Kool Aide for oh so long. They have long their way to think angry common sense long ago. I’ll b probably h he banned for my view but I fully agree on what you say. Rick Smith

  • Bob Puzzles April 20, 2015, 8:54 pm

    OK just checking, does everyone have their tin foil hats off.

    Why is this exercise happening, a very open boarder with Mexico. All states involved are in the West, all boarder states with Mexico are enlisted in the exercise. Why is Texas ground zero, longest boarder with Mexico, highest count of other than Mexicans crossing along with high percentage of Islamic items being recovered. Ready for the kicker. ISIS has training camps in Mexico, one reported to be eight miles from El Paso. It has also been reported ISIS has been working with the drug cartels along the Mexican boarder. Our state department, can you please say Hillary Clinton so know what ever they say is truly right, is in the middle of a cover story right now. Want to know more check out world net daily news. FOX news has also covered the story a little. Oh by the way how’s that investigation going about DOJ’s gun running with the cartels doing?

  • Kalashnikov Dude April 20, 2015, 6:21 pm

    I see quite a few folks commenting here, talking about tin foil hats, checking spelling, dissecting grammar, and complaining about anybody who questions the actions of government and military. Especially it seems, the actions taking place under this administration. This blog is probably not for you. My question to you, and you know who you are, is why is it that you feel the need to come here? Are you somehow worried that a bunch of illiterate rednecks, will somehow get the drop on the best trained, best equipped military in the world? On our own soil? Well, if it’s so, you might be right. I’d bet dollars to doughnuts, most of the towel heads and camel jockeys giving all the best military machines in the world fits, with improvised weapons, asymmetrical tactics, and inferior small arms, couldn’t hold a candle to even the best redneck standards of grammar. Yet they march on. I doubt many couldn’t even write a proper paragraph in whatever their own languages might be. Yet they are making their homes and bases in hard won cities and towns which our sons and daughters fought and died to liberate, and with near impunity. Thinking men need not share their feelings, suspicions, or plans. Think about this, for every redneck, hillbilly, armchair commando, displaying less than perfect spelling here, while at the same time telegraphing any and all potential defense against a government turned rogue, there are uncounted more reading, planning, gathering, infiltrating, and generally preparing to defend our nations honor, freedom, and liberty. Plenty have this administration and it’s enablers clearly in their sights. They will render any overt actions by rogue military/government, against citizens futile and costly in material and lives, or die trying. Uncounted. This notion helps me sleep at night. How about you? All those armed civilians? Angry, racist, intolerant, illiterate, slobs with so many guns and so much ammunition. Probably two thirds can’t shoot worth a dime, which means they’ll likely miss their intended targets and that high powered round could very easily come crashing right through your enlightened residence. Maybe find someone you love, or even you. You all ought to start sleeping on the floor at night. Don’t worry so much about the tinfoil. Get you some hardened steel, and some Kevlar hats instead. Get em for your daughters and wives. Keep em locked away in Texas in July. It could be a holocaust. I hope this finds all you enlightened folks in the right frame of mind. Have a nice day : )

    • Russ April 22, 2015, 4:07 pm

      Your clear on the matter at hand KD.
      Don’t get pissed at the ignorant, nobody can help them.
      Some will have to go, and they make great decoys. (can’t save the world)

      If you have some time, this document should be seen and passed around to friends.
      A guy narrates, so it’s easier on the eyes.
      Relax clear minded and listen.
      You can pause it at times to digest or read certain details.
      I would like you to check it out, it’s enlightening to myself and like minded.
      Please watch–>

  • JR April 20, 2015, 6:15 pm

    This whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test. The military has hundreds of thousands acres of land to conduct military exercises. There’s plenty of room at FT Hood, believe me I know having spent countless months in the field there.
    It isn’t what the good folks of Howard Country are being told, it’s not what is being told that is the problem.
    Follow the money, someone in Howard County is going to be rich when this is all over.
    I hope the good citizens of this county tell the military to stay the hell off their property.

  • Carl Richardson April 20, 2015, 5:59 pm

    All the paranoid patriots need to recognize that we have already been invaded by civilian illegal soldiers through Mexico and it is very clear that our US Military is getting ready for an a military invasion through Mexico into the SW States . WE should be prepared and I fully support this Jade Helm preparation to be prepared for an invasion .

    • Gen. Patton April 24, 2015, 11:40 am

      If what you say is true, why are Texas and Utah classified as ‘HOSTILE’ ???
      In your scenario, states like New Mexico, and Colorado would be the hostile states as they are Mexican sanctuary states.
      Ask yourself this; why would the OP be called ‘Jade Helm’ ? I believe it’s a ramp up to an eventual UN coalition against American Patriots. Russian Spetznaz have been training in Colorado Springs for years….Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!
      God Bless the III%

  • JPHamilton April 20, 2015, 5:59 pm

    COO-COO! COO-COO! This ranks right up there with the mistaken belief years ago that the little stickers on the back of traffic signs are secret mapping/direction finding symbols….actually they were just to indicate when a sign needed to be replaced. Tin Foil hat brigade is on the move!

  • SAL RUIZ April 20, 2015, 5:38 pm

    At 7:16 in the video the speaker talks about the OSS in WW2 and says that the OSS was the forerunner of today’s Special Forces. Any WW2 buff can tell you that the OSS was the forerunner of the CIA. The forerunner for Special Forces was already in play. Remember the movie “The Devil’s Brigade”. This was the 10th Mountain Division, and a joint US/Canadian force known as the 1st Special Services Force, That was the forerunner of today’s US Special Forces. Guys is a history buff. Bullshit

  • mtman2 April 20, 2015, 5:27 pm

    One should realize the euphemistic terminology used by representatives from seats-of-power toward the citizens in matters out of their control!
    Boils down to one thing really; IF the community +/or county said NO is that the final word or CAN the “seats-of-power” override local authority’s. IF not- then it’s not what it seems!!!
    Those powers must entreat and win any local over with plenty of time for all citizens to consider and field relevant questions+answers to when that decision is made to allow it.

    Because this is not the Soviet States of America ~!!!

  • SAL RUIZ April 20, 2015, 5:27 pm


  • c.s. April 20, 2015, 4:05 pm

    ok the military has been training in specialty sites called mount sites for years. They are mock cities for urban combat scenarios. If they have those why train out in the civilian world? Always a bigger risk of collateral and maneuver damage. And too our current government wants more federalized police agency. This all is like”Red Dawn” but with our own government doing the invasion and occupation.

  • DaveGinOly April 20, 2015, 3:49 pm

    The whole alleged purpose of Jade Helm is a crock. The American military wants to know if American soldiers can operate clandestinely among other American citizens, and we’re supposed to presume that this will be used an indicator of how well they might operate clandestinely in a foreign country among foreigners? That’s BS. The only thing Jade Helm will demonstrate is how well the US military can operate clandestinely inside the United States, among fellow Americans. What their purpose in so doing is left up to the imagination, but you can bet it’s no good.

  • James Morris April 20, 2015, 3:42 pm

    Don’t rely only on spell checker. When this post refers to Texas “succeeding” rather than ceceding, and “Marshall” Law rather than martial law it becomes obvious that the writer didn’t care enough about the reader to proof read, or is educationally not competent to do so. Entire arguments are defeated by this kind of cavalier sloppiness.

    • Russ April 22, 2015, 11:05 am

      A sign of intelligence would be to tolerate all levels of literacy, and the ability to understand and communicate with them.
      It would be ignorant to disregard anyone’s input to this forum.
      Some just may not be aware that they could copy and paste to their “write” mail, and hit that “spell check”
      button below.
      Kindly inform them, rather than be a so called “Grammar Nazi”, LOL.

  • Zach April 20, 2015, 3:34 pm

    Do yourself a favor.If any of these military men come to ask permission to do training in your area point blank ask them if they will put their hand on a bible and swear under oath that they are following United States Federal Law (18U.S.C.-1385 original at 20 Stat 152) which It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction, and was subsequently updated in 1956 and 1981. is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel.better known as Posse Comitatus Act

  • USpatriot77 April 20, 2015, 2:53 pm

    With over 22 years of active duty in the Army, most of it in the MP Corps and Intelligence(risk management) this whole thing smells like a ruse by the feds. The ONLY reason you train like this on Domestic territory is to familiarize the troops with the general areas. Whether this is about “jade Helm” or something else, one thing is very clear-this has only one training purpose, to take control of civilian population areas in the States, period! This is the precursor to Obama’s “Martial Law” proclamation before his 2nd term ends. Once “Martial Law” is declared, he will never have to leave, and the Congress and Senate will be completely hog-tied in any actions they make want to take to stop him.
    The American citizen’s better wake up damn quick, or they will be finding themselves in “reeducation camps” when they wake up tomorrow. THIS IS the second American revolution beginning to take shape-gun registration, gun confiscation, population reeducation, public confinement camps. This is just like what happened during the second WW and what America government agencies did to the Japanese American citizens, exactly. Look at the Government bluster in Oregon at the Sugar Pine Mine incident. The feds are NOT backing down, they are just backing up until they can get enough assets in the area to crush the miners and the OATH KEEPERS doing security at the site. When those pieces are in place, the feds will roll over those brave Patriots without a second thought and move on to the next stomping of the American people.
    Make no mistake about this, we are beginning a period of a full nation “civil assault/unrest” against anyone or any group that opposes the current regime’s policies. If you are not “prepping” for this assault, it may already be too late! American patriot’s better be stockpiling food, water, ammo, medical supplies, generators, communication gear, and be looking for “safe hiding zones” for their kids, families, and older family members. This will be an all out “urban guerrilla war” in our own country. If you have never had any training in this area, it would benefit all people to join groups like the 3%, the OATH KEEPERS, Young Americans for Freedom and other pro-American/freedom groups that are preparing NOW for this scenario. This is NOT a matter of IF it will happen, but WHEN will it happen. The signs are all there if you know how to read them, and what to look for-American Patriot’s, it is time to make a choice! Will you become a prisoner in your own country? Or will you prepare to defend your family, rights, country and FREEDOM? The choice is NOW!
    Choose wisely!

  • tahoejohn April 20, 2015, 2:16 pm

    I am also USMC retired.

    If our government is disarming the population they would round people up by threat factors without
    any fuss. Our troops would not support an internal invasion; would you? This is the Obama admin shaking the trees. Cooler heads prevail. I would not be writing this if JADE HELM was a threat. Thank them for their service as they march by; give them a parade. Treat them like Americans and they will act like it. We are AMERICANS.


    • Russ April 22, 2015, 10:36 am

      Thank You, for your service to our Country, tahoejohn.
      Though you have confidence in our Military, due to you and your acquaintances being upstanding,
      I’m afraid we are being infiltrated by our Domestic Terrorist and Chief’s new force.
      This good American can explain what I mean.
      Please watch. –>

  • Tom April 20, 2015, 1:30 pm

    Can you believe this ? How stupid do they think we are ? Their asking Permission but their coming with or without. This is REAL, This is NAZI GERMANY all over again.
    Who is the enemy their supposed to be fighting here ? This government has already listed Texas as a hostile territory. They know Texans will be the first to stand up against any government invasion.
    Remember, this administration has a wide open border policy,
    American Elite Forces are so brainwashed and so tightly wound, that they are mission dedicated with no thought to collateral damage, or anything beyond the MISSION.
    This man’s excuse for INVADING a TEXAS Community is to make sure that TEXANS do not attack them before they can disarm the Texans, and arrest all the potential resistance leadership.

    Obama has militarized all the US Police Departments. 641 Armored MRAP Vehicles have been passed out to US PD’s. Those obsolete M60 Machine Guns replaced by the newer B240’s…have been passed out to Police Departments. Now PD’s not only have Armored Vehicles, but fully Automatic Belt Fed, Machine Guns. This is not what POLICE do, this is what an INVASION FORCE DOES.


  • Krow April 20, 2015, 1:15 pm

    To all tin hat brigade armchair generals:
    The UN has never been a formidable force Or credible threat. May I remind everyone how the UN handles problems? They debate. They fill out paperwork. The troops meanwhile sit on their rear ends. I refer you to the Yugoslavia wars in Bosnia and Serbia In the ’90’s. Srebrenica was classic example of how the UN “handles” problems and “enforces” their eventual decrees. Don’t recognize the name? Look it up.
    The Situation? Srebrenica was a UN safe zone. A battalion of Peacekeepers on guard duty. Serbia forces routinely shell the safe zone. Then, when told to “step back before you get hurt” by the Serbs, the Peacekeepers did just that.
    The Result? 8000 serb men under UN “protection” executed. Thousands of women raped.
    The point? The UN is impotent. We the people have no need to fear. Their actions prior to and since Srebrenica are all following this pattern. So many hot spots in the world with rebels and insurgents, etc running around armed.
    Meanwhile, the US routinely runs training ops for our soldiers, both active, Reserves and National Guard. It is what they do. To date, no actual unlawful search and seizures done by a single IS soldier to a single US citizen Since the Civil War 150 years ago. (Not counting the Indian wars. Sorry about those.)
    Legal search and siezures performed by local law enforcement authorized by paranoid judges? That’s a different beast entirely.
    So quit yer bitchin’ and vote on election day.

  • Red Dog April 20, 2015, 12:20 pm

    As a past member of said “sec ops”, these exercises have been on going in CONOS, continetal United States,
    for 40 years, from the White Mountians of New Hampshire, thru Fla, and Colo.
    Good stuff with great guys.
    Welcome these guys.

  • Larry April 20, 2015, 12:14 pm

    The current regime has bought well over a billion rounds of HP ammo for their “departments”. They have been purging the military ranks of many officers who do not agree with the current “fearless leader”. They have been trying back door ways to disarm the populace (to little or no avail). And now they are doing military “exercises” within the country.

    I would say that we all need to keep them clean, loaded & handy as the little POS beige bozo plans on something Evil!

  • W. Buchanan April 20, 2015, 11:45 am

    With whole sections of Europe being blocked off by the rising tide of Muslim immigrants, and neighborhoods under Sharia Law where the local Constabulary is afraid to venture, I’m surprised I have read this whole article without seeing the possibility of our troops having to repress or fight the coming Muslim change in our population.

    I am more worried about that, than afraid of our own military.

  • Daddio April 20, 2015, 11:24 am

    What about posse comitatus?

    • LOGIC BOMB April 20, 2015, 12:00 pm

      The Patriot Act destroyed posse comitatus. So did the NDAA & the NDRP. There’s a lot of reasons they keep reinstating the Patriot Act. They see us ALL as potential terrorists. Guys from Saudi Arabia hit our towers (and that’s IF you believe any shred of the official narrative) but we can’t tell, because all this shit they’ve done and are doing is to clamp down on US, the common man/woman. We have to stop focusing on the Military and all that fear based shit and tunnel vision on ALL of the politicians that would endeavor to do this shit to us. They don’t care about us. They don’t care what WE want, what WE think. They don’t care, AT ALL!! AT ALL!!! The source of ALL of this bullshit we’ve all been seeing is the very scumbag politicians we’ve all been condition and indoctrinated to actually believe speak for and work for the People. They’re power hungry megalomaniac, sociopaths. ALL of them should be convicted for TREASON. ALL OF THEM!!! We do nothing because our Fluoridated minds are nice and docile. Hitler used Fluoride in the NAZI concentration camps to ensure the massive amount of people they gassed and cooked would stay nice and docile until the bitter end. Our own government has been fluoridating us for decades now and they’ve done a good job of making most of us, nice and sheep like, nice and docile and unwilling to fight, even when a boot in planted firmly on our throats!!

  • LOGIC BOMB April 20, 2015, 11:23 am

    As smart as I said SpecOps guys are, cream of the crop of the military, one has to wonder about the ‘why’ factor as to their willingness to contribute to an OP like at all, under the supposed guise of ‘training’. I don’t know how much of a bubble these active duty guys are actually in, meaning, I wonder how much they really know and understand about what their government is REALLY doing on the grand scheme of things. If they know only 1/2 of what’s going on, they likely know that people are antsy, people aren’t doing all this damn ‘prepping’ for nothing. Do these guys know (or care) about the fear that most people are dealing with? Do these guys realize that their mere participation in a OP like this is further instilling fear into the minds of the American population? It’s extremely doubtful in my mind and unlikely that they’ll be doing gun confiscation and rounding people up, but the fact that they’re willing to even participate in something like this, in my mind, does bring the question up of ‘Where in the hell do their loyalties actually lye”? If any of these guys actually have a chance to take in even part of the info on the internet about this and what people are saying or assuming, one really has to wonder why in the name of God, they’d even be willing to participate in such an OP. These guys are high speed, surgical precision, death machines and they’re working for one of, if not the most corrupt government on the planet….OURS!!! Now our government would have them ‘train’ like this, on American soil, regardless of how the People actually feel about it. Anyone that’s got their head out of their ass most likely does not want or agree with this sort of OP happening in American cities…yet they will do it anyway and F$%K what we want or think about it. It’s utterly INSANE that they would do this, insane that they would participate, insane that they don’t put their own OP together to storm the Capital and the W.H. and round up ALL of these damn politicians for TREASON and tar and feather them ALL and excommunicate them from our nation…or worse. So, I say again, as Americans, we have to wonder where in the hell their loyalties actually lye to even be willing to participate in this sort of “training exercise”. They may not be willing to fire on us and round us up and take weapons, but it sure seems as if they’re willing to scare the living shit out of a large portion of the American population, instill more fear and be a part of the dismantling of what remains of our once great nation. I for one am profoundly against this OP and these Operators ought to know better than to even participate. They have bases from which they can train. There are crisis actors they’ve used in the past to make their training as real and life like as possible, but they would do this!!! I think they’re all the cream of the crop of the Military, no doubt about that, or they wouldn’t be Operators, but, I question why in the hell they’d even be willing to participate in something that is clearly freaking people the hell out. Personally, I’ve lost ALL faith in our government, I don’t trust ANY of them as far as I could throw a school bus and if these Operators are as smart as I think they are, they will STAND DOWN and go lump the heads of the very people that thought this shit up, let alone thought it a good idea to do in American cities, instilling even more fear into the minds of the masses. I could go on and on, but I won’t. If you’re an Operator that will be involved in this OP and you happen to read my words, I have to ask you “What in the hell are you DOING!!! What are you guys THINKING!!?? YOU should KNOW BETTER than to do this shit to your own population (instilling fear). You ALL took an oath to the CONSTITUTION, NOT to the politicians that are eviscerating and all but wiping their asses with the very Constitution YOU took an OATH to DEFEND from ALL ENEMIES, foreign and …..ah hem, DOMESTIC!!! Good freakin god man!! THINK!!

    • DaveGinOly April 20, 2015, 3:56 pm

      You go along to get along, and allow your superiors to think all their ducks are in a row and you’re a reliable robot. Then when push comes to shove, you show your true colors, and their entire plan is thrown into confusion when they suddenly find that the personnel they were relying on to conduct their nefarious missions aren’t going to play ball. In fact, it could be go along to get along until the order is given, at which point certain elements in the military actually turn against the command structure. We may not be looking at a civil war between citizens and the government, but we may see one between two segments of the US military.

      • Jay Warren Clark April 20, 2015, 10:42 pm

        We repeat what we practice. One learns to say “No” by saying “No!” Sorry but one does not get to be a man of conscience by pretending that he is not.
        No man of conscience would ever say what you have just said. Why? Because it makes people think they have a thing they in fact can not have if they have not in fact already come into possession of it, namely conscience. One cannot slay the giant by saying for years, “On the day the giant comes I will rise up and courageously slay him.” That is just nonsense. JWC

  • Bob Builder April 20, 2015, 11:14 am

    The brief clearly states that it is a UW excercise.
    For those of you who are unfamiliar with unconventional warfare, do your research.
    The purpose of UW is to overthrow tyrannical governments who oppose the U.S government.
    The purpose isn’t to confiscate weapons, or strip the populace of their rights. An excercise identical to the one described in the video occur 8 times a year in North Carolina. Reference Robin Sage.
    Furthermore, everyone in America needs to understand that in nearly all cases members of the Special Operations community bleed deeper shades of red, white, and blue than any other American. The vast majority come
    from families with a long liniage of service within this community. While I am thrilled that the concerned members of this website are not metaphorically asleep at the wheel and overcome with complacency, we need not forget that all soldiers have taken an oath to defend The Constitution of the United States against all enemies BOTH FOREIGN, and DOMESTIC.
    Fear not gentlemen.

  • Sevenmag April 20, 2015, 11:14 am

    As I understand it, Jade Helm 15, is the current designation of operations, like this, that have been going on long before Obama was elected. Nonetheless, it is disturbing to hear the upper echelons of the military decrying the possibility that this may be a precursor to Martial Law. I don’t live in Texas, but I’m sure the folks who do will be more than able to “rectify” , as it were, any situation that becomes threatening to our freedom. It’s not only Texas that is considered “hostile territory”. Utah is , also, in that designation.
    The whole operation, whether benign, or not, has sinister shades to it.

  • D Hicks April 20, 2015, 11:11 am

    Lots of interesting comments.Remember what Patrick Henry quoted ,look it up. I also remembered “When the came for the labor leaders I did nothing,when they came for the workers I did nothing, when they came for the people next door I did nothing,when the came for me ,there was no one left to do anything but me.

  • R Davis April 20, 2015, 11:10 am

    The “next fight” they’re worried about is not domestic firearms confiscation. There is a very real probability that US Special Forces will be conducting stabilization, counter-insurgency, and counter-terrorism operations in northern Mexico within the next decade, and you don’t train for that on post or in Alaska. Rural Texas is exactly where they SHOULD be training.

  • Tripwire April 20, 2015, 10:36 am

    I’ve heard a lot of folks talking about this opp and I know it worries the hell out of a lot of them and they may be right! Maybe there is a hidden agenda, but lets look at it calmly for a moment.

    First, as a former Marine I know had I ever been given orders to fire on American citizens I wouldn’t have done so, BUT having said that one needs to remember that when you have a loaded weapon and somebody shoots at you your first response will be to shoot back, so yes I can see American troops firing on citizens. Setting that aside, the three percent factor comes into play, that is that if there are 80 million gun owners in America and only three percent will actually resist, do the math.I believe that’s around abouts of 2.5 million citizens who will fight back, and that’s just in the beginning, as things go to hell more and more fence sitters will get involved. Now how many Special forces troops are their? Also, the spec op troops are all very high on the intelligence scale, you can bullshit an 18 year old kid right out of boot camp but the spec op folks ain’t green recruits and are too smart to be sucked into some leftist/rightest plot to overthrow the nation.
    And has been pointed out many times three of the states in the East/northeast yearly field well over 1,5 million hunters, all of them ol boys ain’t a bunch of wimps who will roll over and piss themselves like a puppy, and Texas? I laugh, About half the gun folks in Texas are right now looking for an excuse to go down and clean out the border area and if they ever got going they may not stop for a thousand miles or so, I’m new to Texas but I was born in Okla and we swap top soil every year and while I have to say Texas has more then it’s share of “Good ol boy rednecks” they just ain’t gonna lay down their weapons, most are just looking for an excuse to yell ” Remember the Alamo” and head south , but if the Gov wants to start it here then they will oblige that too ( at this point I must add myself to the “They, Them” I speak of) I’m an old fart and can’t run faster, jump higher as I used to do but I can still shoot so prop me up behind a tree and lets get to dancing.

    The left always seem to forget “We have the guns” and that should scare the crap out of them.

  • reticent rogue April 20, 2015, 10:35 am

    Before everyone panics and gets into the genuine colorful euphemisms syndrome, please review Rand MG819 at

    All genuine conspiracies hinge on whether those in power are motivated to oppress. The mechanism is not the evil here, and the truth resides in whom we trust.

  • Dennis Johnson April 20, 2015, 10:31 am

    secede, not succeed, and martial law, not Marshall (?) law. Don’t be in such a big hurry to present your story that you allow these sort of mistakes to occur, which might leave some to believe that you’re just another alarmist with little substance.

  • J. McGinness April 20, 2015, 10:18 am

    We were stationed at Fort Bragg. A very good friend of ours owns a contracting company, who managed the training at Robin Sage-outside of the base. And yes, having a friend who lived near there, there were soldiers in the woods at times. But, they had a ‘mock’ town-village that was used and did not interact like this with the local communities that I am aware of. My husband is ex Army-who participated in training exercises in Germany, a Government Agency worker who says this does not sound right! He is not a conspiracy theorist, yet in his word this sounds more like, intel gathering, conditioning of local populace to accept militarization. There are plenty of bases and NTC that they could conduct this training. Yet, they are using local stores, barns, buildings and jumping into our towns. Working with with all branches and agencies just makes you wonder. This guy might be doing his job and really believe that it is all for the protection of our troops, just as many of you do, but there may be others who have an agenda. Just something to think about…

  • LOGIC BOMB April 20, 2015, 9:48 am

    If you think the Operators that will be involved in this don’t know what’s going on, you’d be mistaken. FWIW, Operators are not your typical knuckle dragging grunt that blindly follows orders. Operators are some of the highest IQ individuals our military has. They are extremely intelligent and think pretty clearly under massive amounts of stress. That said, they’re also Americans to their CORE! Remember that. Yes, we saw confiscation in Katrina, but that wasn’t SpecOps. Most of that was National Guard and LEO’s. The government is obviously waaaaaaaay out of control, but the conspiracy theories on this particular topic have gotten so bad, it’s causing people to freak out and not use their freakin heads and THINK!!. Alex Jones feeds the flames of fear and most of you buy it, hook, line and sinker. There’s NOT enough of them to do what everyone seems to think they’re going to do, nor would 95% + of them. They ARE Americans. They also don’t want to die on American soil performing traitorous acts and dying in shame. Those men are better and smarter than to put themselves in that position. As badass as they are, there’s a few factors many aren’t taking into consideration here and everybody is just fear mongering. There’s too few of them and too many of us that are armed to the teeth and pissed off to no end and trained. SpecOps are not stupid people, they do not kill indiscriminately, they do not/would not take traitorous orders lightly. Those are they guys that would be MOST likely to arrest or crack the skull of someone that put an illegal order in their ear. THINK PEOPLE!! Most of you are just locked in fear about this shit and not using your heads. I’d bet you a crisp $100.00 bill that if they get spotted, if they get ‘made’ people started popping off shots at them….they’d most likely hunker down where they were and call for a bird to ex-fil, ex-fil, ex-fil as fast as humanly possible. Don’t let the demons run amuck in your fear based minds. There’s bad apples in every barrel, but these men, these cream of the crop Americans are not traitors to their nation. They like freedom too people. Calm the hell down. Be prudent and watch them like a hawk if you feel the need, but I’m telling everyone that reads my words, they’re NOT going to do what you think they are. They’re Americans!! They’re not mindless knuckle draggers, if they were, they damn sure wouldn’t be SpecOps. THINK…critically and stop handing on every word that comes out of Alex Jones’ pudgy, fear mongering mouth. Flame me all you want for saying this, but that won’t make what I’m telling you any less true. It’ll just showcase how much fear mongering, fear rhetoric people that can’t think critically and base their actions on emotions and not logic. If they show up at your door, hit’em as hard as you know how, but…but…THAT is NOT going to happen. They want to live and they want to live in a free country. Has everybody lost their damn minds?

    • J Jones April 20, 2015, 11:15 am

      # Logic Bomb – I respect your opinion and understand exactly what you are saying and idealistically I feel the same way. I don’t listen to Alex’s show either so you can’t peg me on that one:) As a Navy veteran and one who has a son currently serving this country, I would say Mr. Meade doesn’t know the real purpose of this operation and none of the “intelligent” spec ops on the ground will know either. Military hierarchy works that way. His voice does shake a few times, so either he is uncomfortable with his message and trying to frame it correctly or he is just uncomfortable as a public speaker. He does go out of his way to say “ya’ll” an awful lot..i.e. trying to win the local west Texans over with “I’m just a good ole boy like ya’ll are” flattery. “I eat grits, bacon and was just raised that way…” This is someone trying to identify and win someone over using flattery either because they know they have the wrong message or are uncomfortable about that message. It is no accident a southern boy, who could speak the west Texas language, was assigned over this county. I support and respect most military members who are serving today, minus the gang members who have infiltrated every branch of the military. None of us know the real purpose of this intrusion in Texas and the other states out there, but federal troops have razed, killed and hurt innocent women, children and populations before and burned up entire cities on American soil; remember Sherman’s march? Our military under the wrong kind of leadership, the president is the commander in chief, will absolutely do what they are told and will be fed a whole lot of propaganda before doing so. Will there be rebellion within the military should something like this occur? Yes there will be, but by in large federal troops would run a real operation in the US if told to do so. This is practice on how to come in, gain public favor with state, county and city officials first and then it’s all over from there. This is practice on containing rural American towns make no mistake about it. This would not be a realistic scenario for any foreign land intrusion because the cultures, governments, language, everything is different and so this simply would not be a valid exercise. That city commissioner who told the lady at the end he was her voice was a check box for Mr. Meade on his project sheet:) All Mr. councilman saw was dollar signs ($150K) and of course he is a typical political coward who doesn’t buck anything but his constituents. I’m sure you won’t agree with me, but I do understand you points and under idealistic scenario, you would be 100% right.

      • LOGIC BOMB April 20, 2015, 12:08 pm

        Actually, I do agree with you. You make and raise very valid points. The FREE men/women of our nation should ALL engage in dialogue about this stuff. Rather than going to RED ZONE without thinking and just emotionally reacting. Yeah man, I agree with you on many levels.

    • Dennis Massengill April 20, 2015, 2:29 pm

      Well said.

    • Jay Warren Clark April 20, 2015, 10:35 pm

      Isn’t this what most of the Jews in Germany and Poland said about the German forces?
      And one more thing “Logic Bomb,” most of these really smart special ops guys have been to Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere performing both illegal and immoral acts for two decades now. Tens, hundreds of thousands have died and whole nations have been destabilize by these good men who never said a word to challenge their commanders–much less put a bullet in their heads!
      No, your logic fails because it flies in the face of history (and human psychology) which tells us that it is never any group that say no, but always one solitary individual who risks everything to preserve his or her own conscience and self respect. A few of these folks may (may!) find each other, but it never happens in a group, never! You are saying that these professional murderers will save us. But I think you are talking about a miracle. These folks do what they know how to do: follow orders, and kill. JWC (U. S. Army Medical Corps Viet Nam era)

  • Adam April 20, 2015, 9:45 am

    I really don’t think you are going to successfully apply Marshall Law with 1200 troops…in Texas. They do state that the purpose of the training is to prepare for military actions overseas. I really do not see this as something to worry about. I do think that public comment should have been taken more seriously and good for Miss York for speaking her concerns. Doesn’t look like her local councilmen give a crap. Of anywhere in the US to conduct this type of training I think TX is the place. They have lots of large tracts of undeveloped land and if something did go down like gun confiscation or Marshall Law, the citizens of TX would shut it down. Go TEXAS!

    • MagnumOpUS April 20, 2015, 10:18 am

      As long as 1200 means 1200. What we have seen from this Administration is that numbers – along with truth – means nothing.

    • William Buchanan April 20, 2015, 11:30 am

      Oh for crying out loud…………MARTIAL LAW…… is spelled MARTIAL. It is getting painful to read this site.

      • LOGIC BOMB April 20, 2015, 1:14 pm

        Oh c’mon now…don’t be a ‘grammar nazi’, we have far too many other and much more important things to concern ourselves with.

  • tbird April 20, 2015, 9:43 am

    if you believe,trust,or buy into any propaganda they are feeding you its already over.this government has and never
    be the friend of the your homework where the democratic communist party started and how it ended up here and see
    where the Nazi republican lennin party came from.two wings of the same bird.ill say this get a picture of congress off the net
    and look at the banners on each side of podium.they are banners of the fasci,the natzi fasci.they represent fascism.what would
    a supposed free country be hanging those for in our congress.because judicial,legislative,executive,united states etc are corporations owned by foreign bankers.the united states flag is a corporate flag not the flag of the people our flag has vertical
    stripes.anyway I encourage people to do their own homework.quit believing what they are telling you.they are counting on
    you being to lazy and stupid to learn whats really going on.

  • whaddacrock April 20, 2015, 9:32 am

    I’ve been saying for over 6 years that the elections will end in 2014….

    • MagnumOpUS April 20, 2015, 10:02 am

      I have already quipped in mid-November 2008 that the US has seen its last Presidential Election.

      I understand your sentiments. Those holding this same notion are now increasingly not scoffed at..

      Stay vigilant.

  • Dewey April 20, 2015, 9:24 am

    Wow! Big talk from the Texas Tinfoil hat Militia. Isn’t Texas one of those states that worships the very police that daily run roughshod over its citizen’s rights? Oh yeah, it is. What do you badasses do about that when it happens? Not a god damned thing.
    If troops come to take your guns, the majority will do exactly what the big-talking rednecks in Louisiana did, hand them over and then say how scared the police were of your guns because they were bigger – while you’re wearing zip-cuffs.
    GunsAmerica has, apparently, now joined the ranks of pro-gun entities that do more harm than good by feeding into these Alex Jones-style masturbatory fantasies.

  • AK April 20, 2015, 9:19 am

    Remember Y2K? The nascent internet(s) brimming with ‘Army intel colonel reveals secret plan for SOCOM Ninjas to confiscate your guns during the blackout!!!’ All of you loon-hats got pretty quiet after ”nothing happened.” History rhymes….

    Don’t you all have something better to do?

  • D B April 20, 2015, 9:02 am

    This is exactly what the jihadist ideology wants. For the citizens of the United States to be divided and look at the government to be the enemy. Keep in mind the last thing the guys participating in this training are going to do is infringe on the rights of fellow Americans since most of them are gun nuts and are willing to fight for their God given rights as Americans.

    • Administrator April 20, 2015, 9:08 am

      FYI this comment was done by a government shill being paid to dig in and continue the game.

      • D B April 20, 2015, 9:36 am

        I did not expect a provoking comment like that from a gunsamerica administrator. Guess gunsamerica is a shill for the liberal antigun movement or onesided comentation. Thanks for showing your true colors though.

      • Christian April 20, 2015, 11:05 am

        I believe someone has logged in under the name “Administrator” to cause a dust-up and distract other commentators.

        Jade Helm is most likely a intelligence gathering activity disguised as a training activity. Training will be had, but the information about how effective the US population (specifically “rebellious Texans” and the like) is with detecting military and intelligence operations around them. They are advertising this operation to get people on guard, then they work the operation not to train their people so much as assess the population’s reactions, strengths and weaknesses. The data will be gathered, analyzed and be used to develop strategies on how to enforce whatever they intend to enforce in the future.

        Understand the uptick in civilian firearm sales, civilian protests and inflammatory rhetoric has the Federal government focusing inward. They want to know who their perceived enemy is and what they are capable of. Don’t look for martial law or gun confiscation to start with Jade Helm. Understand it is a lightening rod meant to gather names, information and capabilities of an alert, possibly paranoid (in a good way) population. If it wasn’t a lightening rod information gathering mission, they would conduct this operation in a much quieter, more realistic way; like they have regularly done over the decades.

        • Russ April 21, 2015, 2:53 pm

          All that and more could be reality.
          Keep an open mind to what happens next.

        • C.A.Ortiz April 23, 2015, 11:36 am

          I agree with you Christian. Someone else mentioned ISIS…maybe. But why do we have The National Guard if not to deal with the border problems?
          I have a very difficult time believing that this is “routine” and they have been doing this in other areas.
          Did everyone catch the answer regarding what troops would be used?
          HE SAID CURRENTLY US troops only. Does that mean there are plans in the future to allow NATO in?
          I am not being unreasonable when I say that this sounds like they are preparing for martial law and Texas is the best place to try it out. Just sayin…..btw. can you hold elections under martial law?

  • james scopp April 20, 2015, 8:45 am

    I think you are paranoid! This is training exercise. I think that you and I should do what we can to help train our troops. If it requires us to go out of our way to help them do this then we should. If this is helpful and will help our armed forces to reduce casualties in future situations then we should help as much as we can. Remember that these are our people some of them probably have been members your community. I like doing things that help our troops. These people are Americans like you and I.

  • J Jones April 20, 2015, 8:39 am

    To answer the question of the article, YES this is about gun confiscation and so much more. This operation is to get American troops use to running operations in their own land and getting experience dealing with rural Americans, an enemy they have no idea how to deal with. Urban areas will be no problem, but rural America is another story. This is not a friendly exercise.

  • Sean Christopher April 20, 2015, 8:37 am

    Anyone who goes along with this, is out of their minds !
    This training could be accomplished on a military base.
    What is the need for FBI, DEA or any other federal agency to be a part of it ?
    Didn’t anyone pickup on the answer not in 2015, involving Un troops ?
    Yearly exercises ?

  • Alec April 20, 2015, 8:29 am

    Oh cry out loud. It is exactly what they say it is, a training exercise. Get a life people and quit drinking the Koolaide. Remember “Acorn” and how President Obama was training a “secret” black army to “come” for us. Jeez. Idiots.

    • Frank April 20, 2015, 10:06 am

      Have you seen the ‘Department of Homeland Security Special Police’? Local police, county sheriff, state police, National Guard-we need another Police Force???

      • tOM April 20, 2015, 1:57 pm

        There are some disturbing facts out there within the last year:
        1. The government has ordered from Federal Cartridge Co. 7 billion rounds of .223 in hollow point ammunition.
        2. The Post Office, FEMA, Dept. of Agriculture, BLM, and a dozen more Agencies have ordered at least 200,000 rounds of pistol ammunition each…why
        3. Obama stated he wanted a Federal Police Department as well armed and well funded as the US Military…now he’s militarized all US police departments.
        4. 641 MRAP vehicles have been passed out to PD’s all over the US…Armored Vehicles ?
        5. Now we’re being told that US special forces are going to PRETEND to INVADE US towns ? Are they going to pretend to “pretend” seize the weapons of US citizens too ?
        6. I would remind people that years ago the US military was questioned if they, if ordered, would fire on unarmed American citizens. Only the Elite Forces, who are highly mission oriented, and brainwashed to resist torture and disregard all but the MISSION, they admitted they would fire on American citizens if ordered to do so.
        The regular army stated that they would consider it a violation of their oath to the US Constitution, and an Illegal Order, and some said they would kill the Officer ordering the murder of unarmed Americans.
        7.Ask yourself…why does the Special Forces suddenly now, need to pretend to Invade an American town ? Why now do they have to practice in a “realistic setting” the invasion of an AMERICAN TOWN ? They’ve been fighting in urban settings in Foreign Countries for decades…why now in AMERICA.

        • alec April 20, 2015, 9:30 pm

          Not facts at all, just supposition and hot air. Relax, stand down and watch a movie and enjoy life. Your bunker is filled to capacity. If and I say if there is ever a coup it will come from the right, the rich, the elite, not from the left and they will use people like you to start the “chaos” and then use that scenario to send in the troops. So please quit deluding yourself when it comes to this Black President and start watching the money pouring in from the right wingers.

          • Ram6 May 11, 2015, 3:10 pm

            Sorry Alec, you sound like the typical leftist prevelant in this country today. Most of them are found in the U.S. Congress on the Democrat side of the aisle and in the current administration. You muddy the waters by trying to shift focus on the “right” of the political spectrum. Unfortunately for you that’s the majority of Americans since this is a center right country. Those of us on the “right” have no interest in taking over the country except by legitimate means at the ballot box. Unfortunately the left really can’t accomplish anything meaningful to them that way so they have to cheat. Cheat at the ballot box and if that doesn’t work then perhaps, and I say perhaps, by using force on the populace.

            I am not a consipiracy theorist, but have some reservations about this Jade Helm operation since it truly seems ill advised and designed to provoke a deadly response from some within the civilian population. The armed forces should drop this plan and conduct these exercises as they have for decades, on military property. I forsee this really not ending well.

    • Bud April 20, 2015, 3:44 pm

      Alec – Get your head out of where the sun doesn’t shine. You, look around and see what is taking place… stockpiling ammunition, giving military vehicles and weapons to civilian police agencies. Declaring U.S. citizens, terrorists or subversives, designating certain states as ‘hostile’ (hostile to what… the present administration or the ‘New World Order’?) Are you one of the chosen few who will be a snitch on your neighbor or a traitor to your country? If you can’t see the trees for the forest, you’re living in Never-Never Land.

  • Shari April 20, 2015, 8:12 am

    After watching this and after having read people’s comments and posts on other sites and FB I still don’t believe that the majority of our military would fight the American populace. Mr. Meade is ex-special forces himself so I believe he has the integrity that I need to believe what he says. Do I think this could be a cover for something else the dictator-would-be that is their commander in chief is planning? Yes I do. He would sacrifice anything and anybody if it will serve the purpose of taking America down. I don’t like the fact that they have decided that it’s ok to TRAIN among the populace on the homeland. My son is in the Army and his training ALWAYS takes place in a place that is not a public domain BEFORE any deployment, why has this changed?

    I’m wondering if this General Cleveland he speaks of at 25:08 is a replacement from the purge that is an administration yes man.

    • Tom April 20, 2015, 1:42 pm

      Can you believe this ? How stupid do they think we are ? Their asking Permission but their coming with or without. This is REAL, This is NAZI GERMANY all over again.
      Who is the enemy their supposed to be fighting here ? This government has already listed Texas as a hostile territory. They know Texans will be the first to stand up against any government invasion.
      Remember, this administration has a wide open border policy,
      American Elite Forces are so brainwashed and so tightly wound, that they are mission dedicated with no thought to collateral damage, or anything beyond the MISSION.
      This man’s excuse for INVADING a TEXAS Community is to make sure that TEXANS do not attack them before they can disarm the Texans, and arrest all the potential resistance leadership.

      Obama has militarized all the US Police Departments. 641 Armored MRAP Vehicles have been passed out to US PD’s. Those obsolete M60 Machine Guns replaced by the newer B240’s…have been passed out to Police Departments. Now PD’s not only have Armored Vehicles, but fully Automatic Belt Fed, Machine Guns. This is not what POLICE do, this is what an INVASION FORCE DOES.


  • George April 20, 2015, 8:06 am

    Prepare to become Slaves…

    • Steven April 20, 2015, 9:39 am

      …….or dead.

      • Russ April 22, 2015, 9:38 am

        Amazing, you guys gave up already in your mind.

        I’m a survivor.
        I prep for success.

  • George April 20, 2015, 8:01 am


  • Jonathan April 20, 2015, 7:42 am

    I don’t have half an hour to waste on this conspiratorial drivel. Our forces train on our soil because doing training in foreign countries is tremendously expensive and the administrative/legal/political hoops to jump through are a significant pain in the ass. Why spend millions and have to coordinate through the red tape of both our State Dept and a foreign government when we can spend hundreds of thousands to train here? Why fly a unit out to the Middle East when we can practice desert operations in 29 Palms? You can’t even spell martial law correctly.

    • JimW April 20, 2015, 4:59 pm

      Thank God not everyone is drinking the Konspiratorial Kool-Aid. Our government isn’t worthy of trust, and I don’t like much of anything they do, but the type of reaction to this story just makes everyone here look like tin-foil hat wearing fools (sorry, but true).

      • george April 21, 2015, 7:26 am

        Be ready to he the first enslaved.

  • G. April 20, 2015, 7:40 am

    I’ve read many articles on Jade Helm. Is this for real? Who is telling the locals what’s going on? What is the truth?

  • alex gregis April 20, 2015, 7:36 am

    something is all wrong with this operation. this looks like trying to take the guns,then the ammo didn’t work,they’ll do it themselves!!!! keep your eyes wide open america,the true test is about to begin.

  • john April 20, 2015, 7:19 am

    first to cross over are the politicians -they already have whole [empty] towns for training-when will we know this-when a rifle is put in your face?

  • jrd April 20, 2015, 7:11 am

    Besides the point by point in the article, from the very beginning the premise of this is highly devious. I remember the military when I was young, if they came to the town council or our school, they dressed in nice clean and pressed uniforms. The kind the public and enlisting aged younger people would look up to.

    Here before a town council is a former military, now civilian contractor? What the hell!
    Is this guy a shill, if any thing goes wrong and or any lawsuits result? I smell a rat. In stead of a military person talking truth, we have a civilian contractor spewing bullshit. Right away it seems a false front for a real bait and switch military syop.

    In effect, it all adds up to the military brass, and government leaders, trying to pull a con job by blowing smoke up their rears!
    When is the public going to realize the government, whether civilian or military, is not your friend.

    The American public needs to learn what people in other countries have learned. When the UN and other governments come………run!

  • Tom April 20, 2015, 7:10 am

    the first time I read about this exercise it bothered me. it still does. there is just something about it that seems so wrong – a dry run? or is it s smoke screen for something else? what I really dont like about it is that the military has named a few of the states as “hostile” – and these states happen to be the ones who are the more favorable to the 2nd amendment… it just smells bad….

  • Johnny Cirucci April 20, 2015, 6:56 am

    This is the ultimate betrayal. The American military has been so destroyed by our own leadership that even our Special Forces think nothing of breaking their oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the common American citizen.

    As they swoop in and practice with the cutting edge of technology in small arms with us as the enemy, all of those legislative losses across the years–1938, 1968, 1986–are coming home to roost.

  • Phil April 20, 2015, 6:53 am

    I put very little credence in stories that cannot correctly spell “martial law”.

  • R. Schuster April 20, 2015, 6:52 am

    Sounds like a Robin Sage exercise.

  • Milt Farrow April 20, 2015, 6:07 am

    They are all full of crap, they need their diapers changed I can smell these “turncoats working for the banks and our colonial plantation owners-they are so brainwashed that they can’t see the forest for the trees. This is one of then steps towards total
    confiscation =we have been under martial law for over a century-The country is in worse financial shape than Greece.Elections are meaningless, a mere charade-If we do not stand and fight together we will fall individually. The plans can be found on their own website-The Pentagon gave the police and other “three lettered goon franchisees over 10 billion dollars worth of Battlefield
    logistics including 6 Apache helicopters ( the police needed them to serve tickets)

  • David April 20, 2015, 5:53 am

    Prelude to Federal Police and revocation of Posse Comitatas? York has a point and I find the local politicos capricious disregard for the public ‘ s opinion on the matter disturbing

  • Terry April 20, 2015, 5:45 am

    I don’t see any link to gun confiscations with this exercise but I guess time will tell. Looks to me to be an exercise to support a local resistance against an invading force.

  • JimW April 20, 2015, 5:36 am

    I’m not particularly trustful of anything the government does. But in all honesty it just sounds to me like they’re training SOCOM operators to move among populations, which is what they’re having to do all over the world in virtually every deployment they’re finding themselves in now. How else are they going to train to deal with civilians and operating outside a conventional battlefield other than to go do it? And where can they train like this? Here, where they aren’t going to get shot at by the enemy while training. They need to learn to watch a subject moving among the people, or do recon on him from afar without attracting attention. They need to learn to move equipment, stage themselves, set up on a location, see how civilians might stumble into a scenario they didn’t intend. This is all tradecraft. And SOCOM hasn’t really been doing any of that for many years. It’s all new to them. It’s probably a damn good idea.

    The speculation about it being for confiscation, fears of secession, or Red Dawn are really “out there” in my opinion. BUT I don’t like how the council and our elected officials just rubber stamp it all and keep us in the dark. That’s not good local government and the lady is right to call them to task for it.

    • Jim April 20, 2015, 12:48 pm


  • Ron April 20, 2015, 5:23 am

    This is an exercise that has been going on for several years predating the present POTUS.

  • Agent 786 April 20, 2015, 5:20 am

    Military personnel have been training in mock villages, cities and towns that were constructed on military bases for decades, e.g., Camp Pendleton. A very good case could be made that Jade Helm is the predicate to a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act: The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction, and was subsequently updated in 1956 and 1981. One need not ask what is Jade Helm’s true purpose. One only need ask this question: Does Jade Helm prepare our special operators, various federal agencies and local law enforcement to fight the citizens of the United States who may at some time in the future rise up to challenge the Federal government? If you answer yes, then that is all you need to know.

    • Sharp Tack April 20, 2015, 12:03 pm

      Training is not a violation. They have been doing this for years.

    • Jay Warren Clark April 20, 2015, 10:14 pm

      “Simplify, simplify,” Thoreau said. Very good. Thank you. JWC

  • Neal April 20, 2015, 4:55 am

    Your tinfoil hat is on too tight

  • Ken Hovater April 20, 2015, 4:41 am

    Don’t forget to camo pattern paint your tin foil hat. The US military conducts training every day. If you want to find sinister agendas and shady deals look no further than the US Congress.

  • Jeff Houk April 20, 2015, 4:38 am

    You will not get permission to be on my Property, if I see any NATO troops then in my views that will be an act of War>

  • John April 20, 2015, 4:33 am

    Personally speaking, I kind of feel that the article’s author is over-reacting a bit. I didn’t hear the first indication that anybody would be taking up firearms. Besides, no citizen in their right mind would ever give up their weapons and especially not a Texan. I’ve spent my entire life living around Ft Bragg and we deal with Robin Sage every year. Having spent 4 years in the Army, I participated in the Multinational Training Exercise in Germany known as REFORGER. I listened to the guy talk and I didn’t really hear anything threw up any Major Red Flags .. maybe just a eyebrow raise.
    Just like always … keep your eyes open and your rifle close by.

  • phillip April 20, 2015, 4:12 am

    These are things that cause legitimate concern, yet you bloggers come across as reactionary, ignorant rednecks because you cannot articulate yourselves….Texas is most likely to SECEDE, and for the last time, you morons, it’s MARTIAL law. Have any of you ever read anything other than some other blog?

    • Capn Stefano April 20, 2015, 11:46 am

      I hope they shoot better than they can write. BTW people, if you wait until they pull up at tour residence to take what you have, you’re doing it wrong (it won’t be merely guns and ammunition, but all your “hoarded” supplies for distribution to all of the parasites in our midst)

      Get together in squads, NOW and quietly train and properly prepare. Get fit. Obtain Don’t Tread on Me velcro patches or similar for patriot ID. Hit them at the first such mass confiscation attempt. See you in the field

    • Richard April 20, 2015, 1:13 pm

      Halleluiah, you beat me to it. You are correct. When responding to this stuff, it doesn’t help the cause is the respondents articulation level is 3rd grade. And another thing, when I was in the 101st in 74-75, we used to deploy from Ft. Campbell to the N.C. seaboard area and conduct Solid Shield exercises. Same methods these guys are using. It’s all about winning the hearts and minds.

      Oh, and it’s not our military you need to fear…’s those ISIS camps just south of the Texas border and no telling how many more of those thugs have already infiltrated this country.

  • thomas allen April 20, 2015, 3:57 am

    WTF is this? Marshall law here in our country, and why? There’s no need for this special operations crap we can handle what ever comes along I’m sure.
    pinko’s commy bastards.

  • Quisno Rodonovich April 20, 2015, 3:54 am

    At what point do we the people take notice that military and police work together to remove guns from owners homes.
    At what point do we see the rounding up of dissidents?
    At what point do we finally realize that the government is the revolutionary.
    whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
    And to this I add an oath taken by our founders and still applicable today
    “for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor to our Republic” Patriot Cells of America oath

    • Russ April 22, 2015, 6:15 pm

      Sadly Quisno, that point has been sailed by long ago by most of the sheeple.
      Your going to have to get with friends and family, and have a go at it alone.
      Your state militia may have your interest, so give that a try.
      Why do I say that point has long been passed?
      If you have some time,(I hope you do) watch this and you will see what I mean.

  • Philip J. Corral III April 20, 2015, 3:40 am

    This can be taken only two ways.Gaining intel of specific threat elements.With in our state.Or this is the begining of NATOs long arm plan for disarming.What ever it is.This will also give Texans an Idea of what were dealing with.Dont Fear This. Use this as a perfect time to work out plans for dealing with tyranny.Fear is a Tool.US SPECIAL OPERATIONS USES THIS TACTIC FOR SPECIFIC EFFECT.To see how we respond.Look Listen pay attention to specific actions and training details.It may save your LIFE..FEAR IS NOT A WAY OF TEXANS.WE CONFRONT IT.

    • Mahatma Muhjesbude April 20, 2015, 9:47 am

      First of all, way before Nato jumped down the NWO slippery slope, our fledgling fascist shadow government started the mass population disarmament agenda beginning with the NFA of 1834 and the the big one…the 1968 Gun Control Act, the sole purpose of which was to create a below radar gun registration (background checks and purchase paper trail) system and eventually set up a social ‘public safety’ and extreme ‘crime prevention’ paradigm which manifests the potential for almost anyone–at least those whom they want to quickly focus upon and neutralize of their potential ‘Rev’ equipment, by making them felons for any of a number of frivolous , thus banning their ownership of firearms. The ‘mental health’ issue, for instance, being a ‘good’ catch all example. Right after the ‘domestic violence’ law. What better way to ‘disarm’ untold masses of stupid asses but to make it illegal (aka, against our 2/A) for anyone fighting with their spouse, the most common human behavior pattern in the world, to have a gun?! Knives, clubs, fists, of course, not withstanding?

      It’s called the Tennessee Reverse Okey Doke. And it’s on ‘We, the dumb ass Sheeple’. First get the ‘punishment’ you need for control and agenda, then make up a ‘crime’ as needed to satisfy the ‘punishment’ requirements.

      Some anti-2/A proponents couldn’t even wait for National Federal ‘laws’ and mandates and ‘jumped the gun’ by creating their own ‘laws’ like the New York Safe Act recently. Gestapo, I mean ‘cops’, in such ‘places’ can now knock on your door and force/seize your guns just because you won’t allow your shit ass neighbor’s dog to crap all over your driveway and they called the PO-PO to complain about your ‘dangerously armed’ animal cruelty threats!

      What do you need? A road map in blood red technicolor?

      So why is anyone even slightly surprised at military exercise?? After all. they should ‘practice’ these imminent mass confiscations, otherwise they’ll be much more collateral carnage than they expected. Many Free American Citizens won’t submit and cow tow quietly into the night… So this training is merely a natural progression in their ‘mission from hell’. We all knew it was coming. With the new ‘National Registration and Location Tracking card’ law euphemistically referred to as the ‘Real I.D. Act’, ostensibly but insultingly devised for the purpose of keeping terrorists out of ‘sensitive’ government facilities and off Airplanes, going into ‘serious’ effect this summer. Oh, did everybody forget about that?

      Too bad. Because the real reason for the ‘Real I.D.’ law is so that they know exactly where everybody lives who bought what they want to restrict and confiscate after they analyze your purchase info which they already have!

      So enjoy your tax dollars at work. Maybe you’ll learn something.

      But keep an eye out for those unmarked white Mercedes ‘delivery vans’ parked in front of your house…

      Because then…you’ll be next!

      • Russ April 21, 2015, 1:15 pm

        I know you get it Mahatma Muhjesbude, and are very aware.
        And there are plenty of us that have seen this, and much more coming our way.

        Guys like Philip J. Corral III might be guessing this is the beginning of “NATO’s long arm plan for disarming’ (?)
        NATO, being an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treaty which was signed on 4 April 1949, is pretty much irrelevant to what’s really going on these days as far as a NWO being the UN’s plan.

        Don’t be too hard on Philip, at least his eye’s are starting to open.
        Believe it or not, I know many people that have no idea, and have heard nothing of Jade Helm,(even firearms enthusiast).
        I know the majority of people in America not only don’t know, but don’t care to listen, and think it’s conspiratorial.

        Rather than getting pissed at stupidity, or giving the ignorant, “I told you so’s”,
        I just take this attitude;
        You can’t save the world, and the law of the jungle will consume those that aren’t aware and diligent.
        So I want to say to guys like Philip; Google your State Militia, and see what you can do to be involved.

  • Ryan April 20, 2015, 3:36 am

    This is a bunch of BS……this is our country and it is time we let our government know that!!!!!! that is all I should have to say.

  • Will Drider April 19, 2015, 11:01 pm

    I watched “Their” Brief. Yes, they a training for contingency operations by our military IN the U.S. and against existing law, gov and citizens.

    Real world, if the Gov comes to take over a County, they will fight the whole State. If they try to take over a State, they will have to fight all of them (except those already neutered by gun control).
    Most of the Citizens of the States in play are well armed, especially in the rural areas of this exercise. The troops and roll players better be carefull who they scare or point weapons at. Never take blanks to real gunfight. It only takes one person who does not know its roll play to pull the trigger. No true safety net as there is within the base perimeter.

    • Rocky April 20, 2015, 2:56 pm

      Just from a practical point of view, the US military is comprised of less than 1% of our total population (2,220,412 including active and reserve components). The licensed deer hunters, on opening day, in most medium sized US States comprise an armed group larger than most nation’s standing armies (China’s military is the world’s largest at 2,285,000). When you add up all of the armed Americans in all 50 States (estimated at around 80 Million+-) it comprises an armed force that no government would willingly take it upon themselves to tackle, without doing their best to disarm, first.
      Even being disarmed, the American citizenry comprise a formidable force, given their ‘Give me Liberty or Give me Death’ mindset. I once worked with an older man who lived in Yugoslavia, during the German occupation of WW2. The citizenry were essentially disarmed, excluding farm implements and kitchen tools. He spoke of he and his friends assaulting lone Nazi soldiers in order to take their weapons… Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
      ‘Evil Triumphs, when good men do nothing.’ ~ Edmund Burke

      • Chris April 21, 2015, 11:11 am

        Missing a key factor: training. How many regular citizens could a Marine sniper pick off, and how long would it take your neighbor to spot him out, if ever? The military also has technology. Although I would love a feel good story as much as the next guy, it is unlikely normal citizens would overtake the US military on an uneven battle field.

        • Keith April 22, 2015, 1:50 pm

          What percentage of the actual military do you think would actually follow orders to this degree? I’m fairly certain that the general officers in the current command structure have been selected/promoted based on their willingness to follow orders but, sooner or later, the chain of command will reach what ever level there is where someone will say, “Hell no!” That’s my hope anyway…

        • Michael E. Hensley May 12, 2015, 1:23 pm

          Just for a Moment think! How many of us that would be defending ourselves are in Fact, Ex Military. That would change the equation a bit, Would it not!

        • Unknown Patriot May 26, 2015, 4:16 am

          As for the remark about Marine sniper fire on US Citizens, with all the respect in the world for all branches of the US Military’s Armed Forces, Hunters on average have much more experience with firearms than the average soldier, and “Yes” Hunters know how to shoot very accurately, most hand load their ammo, and know the ballistics of the ammo they use, and regularly hit running wild game at long ranges, “Don’t Count The American Hunter Out” when the SHTF !

        • nagant9130 May 27, 2015, 6:07 pm

          We as the American people would not stand a chance unless we as a group work together with a leader in the wilderness and God on our side, on one will last in the city, but what really amazes me is why the American Military would take orders from a muslin dictator, the ones in other countries have been over ran but why not here? There’s been around 4 to 5 million people die over the freedom of this country and are the people going to give it up now? The evil men running this and other countries are just that, Evil, Greedy, Non-Caring about the people, caring about no one but theirselves, Romans 13 say’s that ALL Rulers are for evil and not for good. I’m a New Testament Christian and I know Jesus say’s not to fight back and to Love your enemies but I find this the hardest to do as a Christian, I’m ready to fight EVIL and if I die doing it then so be it (I would die to protect my family and to lose my freedom) and May God Forgive Me for I cannot stand by and watch what these people are about to do, baby steps at a time is the way they work and that would be the best for us also, be on the offensive and not on the defense.

    • Antonio April 20, 2015, 5:22 pm

      They come snooping in my neighborhood they will be noticed. They come trying to pull a weapon on me, with or without blanks, they’ll get a proper response. This purpose of this infiltration seems to be how far they can push to see how much they can gain and prohibit groups from organizing into militias. This Brief gives us good intel on what the Socialists at the Administration are up to. Now, if they send any foreign troops to my neighborhood I consider that an invasion and will join any group, organized or not, to fight the insurgency. Perhaps their strategy is to invoke a Revolution and win to gain control. This could be the ultimate legacy that Obama really wants on his Resume and Presidential library, the Supreme Socialist or SS!

    • john milligan April 20, 2015, 5:36 pm

      i agree, i am a vietnam vet 101 airborne. the logistics of us military action against the civilians is not possible. i know some who are convinced that “someone will come and take our civilian owned weapons”. absurd. there is now way. the cost, the amount of personnel required to do this, the secrecy that would be required is another impossible enterprise. the us gov does not have an idea how many weapons or out there. those over 100 years old, maybe 1914 can be sold without any documentation. the ffl03 can buy weapons that are older that 50 yrs old and not altered. i can remember in the 1970’s walking into a gunshop and buying weapons without any documentation that i could see. so prior to the passing of new laws. americans have bought millions of weapons. no one knows where these are located. our constitution clearly states that the us military cannot have any jurisdiction over civilians. if the constitution is violated by the us gov, civilization in this country will be living with the dinosaurs.

      • Jay Warren Clark April 20, 2015, 10:11 pm

        No one pays any attention to the Constitution anyway and the military (after the passing of the NDAA) now has jurisdiction and the power to arrest and detain “indefinitely” on the flimsiest of purely subjective grounds. No, everything is in place. Yes, we have millions of unregistered guns but in the tests done so far on individuals and on large numbers, in New Orleans for example, it is probably pretty clear to them that most won’t fight or even flinch. It is sad, but I’m afraid it is true.
        Indeed, it is probably worse; the neighbors who watch confiscations will probably lend a hand (to the military/cops) and assume that their neighbors are bad people who deserve to be invaded, roughed up, and hauled off to some camp. No, there are a lot of very very stupid people in this nation–formerly a free and democratic republic. That many of them are armed does not give me any comfort. I pray that I am wrong. JWC

        • Tony May 20, 2015, 6:23 pm

          I don’t damn think so.No way I would betray the people I know and my family and just let them walk in and take. its not happening

      • old southern man April 20, 2015, 11:14 pm

        With all due respect…. We have no constitution or rights anymore. If we did we would not be having this discusion.

      • Terry April 21, 2015, 6:29 pm

        In reading the response to this article many agree as I do that this exercise has nothing to do with gun confiscation while probably as many think it does or could. I think most folks reading this that have prior military service realize the military is made up mostly of just average folks who’s main job is to protect us and they do that well. Many in this exercise appear to be some of the best of the best and you should be glad as hell to have them in your neighborhood.

        It is often thought that men are less emotional than women but the fear of someone taking our guns brings out extreme emotion in us men. We love our guns, plain and simple. Unfortunately, some use that fear to drive political agendas. Much of the lack of ammo, powder etc was driven more by fear than any actual threat. Hinting this military exercise may be more than what it is a good example of that. We sportsman face many threats but in the upcoming years there will be many more. We need to maintain public lands to provide wilderness opportunities for our children. Greed and population growth will put pressure on those wonderful assets in the future. Already several states are wanting to take over BLM lands. Though some will financially benefit from the state taking over the land, the average Joe hunter/sportsman will loose out I guarantee it.

        • Chuck Otto April 22, 2015, 3:48 pm

          Terry: Thanks for your valuable insights. As a veteran, I share your perspective on military operations and agree that much of the more severe criticism of this exercise – and others like it that have been held in the civilian environment in recent years – is PROBABLY over-reaction. As a former DOD agent, my agency was seriously impacted by the Posse Comitatus Act back in the 70’s, and I’m aware of the Constitutional and legal constraints on military interaction with civilian agencies, communities and individuals within the U.S. These constraints were intended to prevent military agencies from doing what at least SOME folks believe they are now doing – or at least preparing to do at the whim of an out of control federal government.

          With all that in mind, I have mixed feelings about the safety and advisability of moving our military training operations into civilian populated areas – especially when the training involves urban warfare, infiltration and clandestine operations training. From the tone of some of the comments in this forum, I fear that some ill-informed civilian in the community might precipitate a serious – possibly fatal – encounter with soldiers involved in the exercise.

          The other side of the issue, which must NOT be dismissed out of hand, is the concern felt by numerous citizens that these exercises could be ploys to train soldiers in how to act against their own fellow citizens in a “martial law” situation. Given the track record of our current federal leadership – including many in appointed positions in charge of civilian agencies that have become heavily armed in recent years, That concern is entirely reasonable and may be fully justified. The concerns have little to do with a fear that hunters may lose access to hunting lands. They have much to do with the very clear agenda of our pretend president to disarm U.S. citizens while, at the same time, allowing and even encouraging illegal migration across our borders. It’s exacerbated by the chronic lying and deceit we see almost daily in our elected officials and by the multiple assaults on our economy, our freedom, our very society that those elected officials have not only failed to stop, but for which they’ve been largely responsible.

          I tend to disbelieve the testimony recently given to members of Congress by DHS officials in a recent hearing regarding ammunition procurement by and for certain federal agencies – some of which should NOT be armed and should NOT be involved in hard-core law enforcement. There were too many inconsistencies in the testimony, and there was clear disbelief on the part of some members of Congress during the hearing. What bothers me is that hearings like this have been mostly “dog & pony shows” that divert public attention, generate no constructive action by Congress, and seem to serve only to distract the public. What they DO accomplish is to make it difficult for citizens to believe government officials. The irony of it all is that the same “say much, to nothing” people keep getting re-elected to the same public offices.

          Bottom line: The planned exercise is typical of many military training exercises held over the years – mostly on government/military property and involving government/military personnel. While the briefing given sounds reasonable, the fact remains that THESE exercises are being conducted in and around civilian communities and on private property, with interaction by local civilians. SOC is doing what it’s required to do in – ASKING PERMISSION of both state & local officials before putting military “boots on the ground” – but one hopes that civilian authorities will very CAREFULLY consider the risks involved and insist on very close coordination to prevent any improper interaction between military and civilians – accidental OR intended.

    • Gary McLeod April 20, 2015, 6:51 pm

      at 18:38 >> They (the military) will be wearing civilian clothes and driving civilian cars. They might be wearing camo pants and T shirts just like locals.

      OK >> Here’s the issue >> How are we going to know that these are not criminal teams of home invaders that are imitating the Military who are imitating civilians? Are we to rely on arm bands that can be home made?

      • Mustang5x5 April 21, 2015, 12:47 am

        My thoughts exactly, not in uniform, driving civilian vehicles?

        • Russ April 21, 2015, 12:03 pm

          Exactly why our military should never do any exercise with civilians.
          There can be no trust.
          We’re being tested.

    • Scott May 12, 2015, 1:08 am

      Who gave the big OK for all this was it Odama if so we are in for a fight on are hands but I rather do my best then just say oh here yake this oh and here I have more ammo . Bull shit I am retired older I will fight tell the end of me I live alone my wife past away so I am ready

    • Ron May 12, 2015, 1:58 pm

      Time to ratchet down the hysteria. As a thirty one year veteran of US Army Special Forces from Vietnam to 2002, I was responsible for planning both training and operations for multiple generations of Special Forces, before and after the formation of USSOCOM. The Unconventional Warfare mission is as stated, to infiltrate an enemy occupied area then train and assist resistance to dispel either a foreign invader or over through a regime rendered illegitimate because of atrocity and human crisis. The classic example is WWII Europe but contemporary examples have been seen in Central America, Eastern Europe, Afghanistan, and Iraq. The range of skills and interactions required to develop these situations are often not presented to all that actually participate in the real operation. Therefore, it is critical to train to these elements in an environment that approximates all aspects of a society. We have been in operations in the Middle East since 1990 and persons within the military both enlisted and officer have grown up in a very limited political context which, as compelling as it has been, has also limited their perspectives, opinions, and ultimately adaptability to situations like the country of Georgia in 2008 and recently in the Ukraine where nuances are significantly different than in Iraq or Afghanistan. It is most appropriate to qualify the term “next Fight” because the military is always prepared, after the fact, for the last fight. It is managing the risk from this condition that exercises like this are created. In 1973 we conducted similar exercises in New England because the focus on Vietnam was causing skills essential for European operations to atrophy. Some of the most stanch and irreverently patriotic folks you could hope to find were the folks I have known in Special Forces. They exist to give choice and voice to those that otherwise have none, not to take it away.

    • Markgm July 14, 2015, 8:00 pm

      I think in our world, we’re looking at re-acclimating Americans to having troops around, and re-acclimating troops to be patrolling Americans, and developing gun confiscations or just taking it all one development at a time. Like a new kind of tax that starts at 1%, and winds up somehow at 15% later on.
      It is my understanding that when the US began, a standing army was an intolerable notion. This was also pre-US military. But still, a hundred years later, we got Posse Commitatus, which also says no US military on domestic soil. When this country was started, it’s fighters were organized by (county) sheriffs. A standing army would be a problem for that. The army is for wars (foreign). The police are for keeping the peace (domestic).
      It is my understanding that the states have to allow the army in, and can tell them to leave. ?

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