Jade Helm Early? – NY Guard Training Civilian Imprisonment

Is anyone comfortable with troops right here in the US training to run detention camps correctly? Is it acceptable to keep believing  that this isn't to turn against freedom loving Americans? How do you feel about the brown shirt SS who, after WWII tried to convince everyone that they were just doing their orders running detention and extermination camps?

Is anyone comfortable with troops right here in the US training to run detention camps correctly? Is it acceptable to keep believing that this isn’t to turn against freedom loving Americans? How do you feel about the brown shirt SS who, after WWII tried to convince everyone that they were just doing their orders running detention and extermination camps?

Original Article:

Is there a human being in the United States who is not aware that something is going on? At this point, I don’t know how you could deny it. And we are all tired of hearing that this is normal military training. The US Marines wouldn’t be building 90 million dollar mini towns with soccer fields and church steeples to train on their bases if that were true. I explained last week what my take on the situation is, and it isn’t a good prognosis.

News about military convoys all over the US is popping up almost every day. If you read the title of this article and said oh no not another conspiracy theory, these aren’t theories anymore. The warmongering cabal is brazen now. This is an actual press release from New York State Military and Naval Affairs.

“What we are conducting here are full scale operations in order to bring everyone into the fold for what is necessary to run a detention facility properly,” said Capt. Nicholas Monuteaux, the Headquarters Detachment Commander. “It is very necessary to ensure all our military policemen and small engineer contingent develop, build or refine their duties and responsibilities.”

Why do we need detention facilities in the US? There is supposed to be a Posse Comitatus Act law preventing the military from engaging in policing operations? This may be an act created in 1879, but it was updated in 1981.

The article linked above covers some really good harbinger events that clearly show that the US Military is training to imprison us, the America people.

Believe it or not, the most compelling piece of information I have seen isn’t Jade Helm. It is called the U.S. Army Special Operations Forces (ARSOF) Operating Concept 2022 is being deployed on U.S. soil to “operationlize the CONUS [Continental United States] base.” Is the 2022 date on there to make us feel like Martial Law isn’t imminent?

Here are some key points the author above has pieced together:

  • In 2009 the National Emergency Centers Act (H.R. 645), was introduced in Congress, mandating the establishment of “national emergency centers” to be located on military installations for the purpose of providing “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster,” according to the bill. In addition to emergencies, this legislation is designed to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security,” an open-ended mandate which could mean just about anything they want it to mean, including the forced detention of American citizens in the event of widespread rioting after a national emergency or total economic collapse.
  • We have covered this before here at GunsAmerica. In February of 2010 the Internment and Resettlement Operations (FM 3-39.40) was leaked, a U.S. Army manual outlining policies for processing detainees into internment camps both globally and inside the United States. That is against the Law of Nations.
    In 2009 the National Guard posted a number of job opportunities looking for Internment and Resettlement Specialists (31-E) to work in “civilian internee camps” within the United States, with the job description: “Internment/resettlement specialists are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility.”

  • FOLLOW THE MONEY! In December of 2011 Halliburton subsidiary, Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR), a government defense contractor, issued a Project Overview of anticipated requirements in “establishing a National Quick Response Team for our current Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) work,” and was specifically seeking sub-contractors to staff and outfit “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the continental United States.
  • In 2006, that same company, KBR, was contracted by Homeland Security for $385 million to build detention centers designed to deal with “an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S.,” or the rapid development of unspecified “new programs” that would require large numbers of people to be interned. Does that ring a bell? It should. It’s called “Immigration Reform,” and they have been planning this for a very long time.
  • Soon after KBR’s announcement, a little-known Army document surfaced, entitled Civilian Inmate Labor Program. The unclassified document describes in detail Army Regulation 210-35, first drafted in 1997, which underwent a “rapid act revision” in January of 2005 and now provides a policy for the creation of labor programs and prison camps aboard Army installations and other U.S. military bases.
    Congressman W.G. “Bill” Hefner (D-NC) wrote a now infamous letter to Zell Setzer of Setzer Insurance and Associates, Salisbury, NC, on March 24, 1997, regarding information “pertaining to the Army’s policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor program and civilian prison camps on Army installations.” Congressman Hefner confirmed to Mr. Setzer that “the program has been funded, staffed, and does not reflect current Army policy,” denoting a preconceived future agenda. That is the very definition of a secret agreement (a conspiracy between two or more people).

  • Under the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act For Fiscal Year 2011, which was signed by Barack Hussein Obama on New Year’s Eve of 2011—when most of the Congress was home on Christmas vacation—American citizens can be legally (not lawfully) kidnapped and detained indefinitely without charge or trial, and subjected to extreme rendition with no due process of law.
  • The U.S. Army Military Police training manual for Civil Disturbance Operations (FM 3-19.15), describes the “operational threats of the civil disturbance environment,” the “general causes for civil unrest,” weapons deployment, the legal considerations of “control force operations,” the legal considerations of “apprehension, search, and detention,” and recording the “number of cadre and inmates injured or killed.” This 115-page manual represented at the time of its publishing a shocking new insight into how the U.S. military plans to violently quell unrest in the aftermath of a total economic collapse or other national emergency, with rules of engagement regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents,” which were made disturbingly clear with the directive that a “warning shot will not be fired.”
  • Currently, the ongoing and expanding United States Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) Jade Helm 15 is underway, the Realistic Military Training (RMT) exercise conducted throughout the American Southwest and in 11 states to “Master the Human Domain” via “unconventional warfare.” This so-called exercise declares Texas, Utah and Southern California hostile territory, driving Texas Governor Greg Abbott to deploy the Texas State Guard to monitor the very questionable operation on non-federally owned land.
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  • Fee Leung June 16, 2015, 8:28 am

    I say US gov is preparing for possible financial collapse. The US/EU/Japan have the top 5 GDP but all three are in record debt. Central banks and major banks have interlocking deals to support each other and many have unseen mal investments in dark pools, derivatives, CDO, SWAPS etc etc. If they are not in it themselves they have loaned money to people who are involve in these mal investments. Greece has been festering for several years and the recent election of a leftist gov who is willing to take Greece to default has the US/EU preparing for the worst. If Greece defaults, it can trigger a banking collapse as investors who borrowed money to speculate in Greek bonds via high leverage, derivatives, swaps and etc, and they may not be able to pay back the bankers or worst the investment bankers speculated and are forced to commit bail in (take peoples savings accounts or face bankruptcy (triggering bank holiday and people cannot accesss their savings accounts). Either way the economy will crash (if delivery man cannot pay for fuel to deliver goods from factory to warehouse to local stores) and citizens cannot access their money and store shelf become empty. Add to that food stamp cards do not work and welfare/disability checks cannot direct deposit, plus all credit cards cannot be honored. You are looking for total social chaos and rioting. US military and all local LE will need to be unified and act\ to take control. Stock pile food, essentials (toilet paper, fem napkins), extra perscription meds if possible, keep some cash at home, definitely get a firearm with plenty of ammo for self defense and figure how to band together with your neighbors for safety and security. Don’t be caught short and forced to fight with everyone at local store for the last essential running the risk of being killed or arrested.

  • Jphamilton68 June 15, 2015, 9:58 pm

    Kookoo! Somebody has watched waaaaaay too many X-files episodes….

  • Angela Burnham June 15, 2015, 8:45 pm

    The New York Guard is the organized militia of New York State, completely separate from the National Guard. It has nothing to do with these exercises.

  • JtothaK June 15, 2015, 6:28 pm

    Per the USMC related link above: http://www.army.mil/article/118796/Asymmetric_Warfare_Training_Center_opens_at_Fort_A_P__Hill/
    “There’s also a mosque, a soccer stadium, a subway station complete with subway cars and a train station with real rail cars”

    A mosque and soccer stadium certainly isn’t as alarming as a “church steeples and soccer fields” now is it? Leave the sensationalism to infowars.

    • Administrator June 15, 2015, 7:05 pm

      There are more than one. And look at the mosque. Does it look like a mosque or a church? It has a steeple. If you pull your head from out of your… oh sorry.

  • Mick Goldman June 15, 2015, 12:32 pm

    The rules of engagement are the same whether being kidnapped or arrested by authority under martial law – you have at best a 5% chance of survival if you go along with said kidnapper or authority. Probably much less than 5% in a martial law scenario. This is based upon police and related expert advice.

  • Mick Goldman June 15, 2015, 12:31 pm

    The rules of engagement are the same whether being kidnapped or arrested by authority under martial law – you have at best a 5% chance of survival if you go along with said kidnapper or authority. Probably much less than 5% in a martial law scenario. This is based upon police and related expert advice.

  • Larry June 15, 2015, 12:26 pm

    Remember that the beige bozo has been purging members of command from the military for several years now. I would imagine he has things pretty well in order by now for his new “command” officers to follow his orders, whether Constitutional or not.

    Also, note that all these preparations began in 2009, right after the enemy within was immaculated by the foolish class. This seems to have been his plan all along & it appears to be coming to fruition soon.

  • Occams June 15, 2015, 11:34 am

    Yea, sadly, there are a LOT of people who don’t even have a clue what’s going on, and I just got into it with one, the other day. He believes that he ‘listens to all viewpoints’, because he switches from Fox, to MSNBC, to Hannity, the the NY Times.

    Stunning ignorance.

    After our ‘discussion’, I went home and found this new article – almost like it was written to the clown I argued with. Excellent reading:

    “As if there were safety in stupidity alone” – Henry David Thoreau

  • Lars Skinner June 15, 2015, 10:31 am

    I concur with the comments by Eric Blatter. I have served 22+ years both active duty and Reserves, in the Marines and the Army. I am currently a LTC in the Army Reserves. I have served in a wide variety of positions/commands, and done tours in Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other places. We are not robots, nor ‘storm-troopers.’ We didn’t stop being Americans, or valuing what it means to be an American, just because we’re in uniform – quite the reverse. The idea that the military would gleefully participate in the round-up and detention of fellow citizens is simply ridiculous. I can’t think of *any* scenario in which that would happen. Is it worth keeping tabs on government over-reach, and the erosion of our civil liberties (especially since 9-11 and the Patriot Act)? Absolutely! Should we automatically trust everything someone in a position of power tells us? No! But such conspiracy theories do nothing positive to either prepare us for actual potential crisis, or to add credibility to concerns voiced about surveillance or detention of Americans without cause under the guise of ‘fighting terrorism.’ It is very telling that articles/theories like these are usually promulgated by people that have never served in uniform…

    • Nick N June 15, 2015, 11:24 am

      Ruby Ridge—–Waco

      • Lars Skinner June 15, 2015, 11:59 am

        Both were definitely examples of a federal LE f-up. I am *still* pissed that Janet Reno wasn’t fired as a result, and that Lon Horiuchi isn’t in prison for murder/manslaughter. It is discouraging that neither event resulted in significant changes in over-sight of how such operations are planned/conducted, as far as I know. *However*, neither was/is a sign of an impending government take-over, nor the building/operation of detention camps, etc. That was some 20 years ago. Has the government launched a take-over, or rounded up citizens for detention in all the time since then? Not last I heard, even from the oracle called “Fox News”…

        • Nickn10 June 15, 2015, 12:35 pm

          When I wrote Waco and Ruby Ridge I was not referring to a take over, but to the willingness of some of the police and military to use force even deadly force against civilians. That in turn can lead to martial law and subsequent takeover.

          • Nickn10 June 15, 2015, 1:23 pm

            I was not referring to a government takeover in my previous reply. I was referring to the willingness of following illegal orders and shooting at and killing civilians. Once that behavior is accepted and goes unpunished what makes you think that the government under some trumped up charges won’t escalate into a showdown similar to Nevada ranchers or worse. I was an MP in the Army and a prison guard in civilian life, the US AGAINST THEM mentality in not too far under the surface for some in uniform. Race riots, white privilege “occupy” demonstrations, income disparities can all be can all be purposely misconstrued by the liberal press and sadly become grounds for government intervention and use of force.

          • Lars Skinner June 16, 2015, 1:00 pm

            I agree there is a problem with a minority of military and/or LE personnel that may be willing to violate RUF/ROE from time to time, and of course it must be called out and violators punished (which current law already provides for). But IMHO, it is a *huge* leap from that, to saying that there will likely be martial law or some other take-over. If that were the case, why hasn’t that happened since Waco, or Ruby Ridge, or Kent State?? Or for that matter the “Bonus Army” march in DC in 1932? Links like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_States#Texas show a long history of police brutality/over-reach in our country, all inexcusable. But *none* of these excesses have lead to the imposition of martial law, has it? I’m as pissed about such incidents as anyone else, but it just sounds ignorant and a bit “Chicken Little” to run around claiming the the sky is falling on the Constitution (to mix metaphors). Instead of worrying about conspiracy theories, why not spend one’s energy on fighting *real* injustices that have actually occurred, and continue to occur? Just my two sense (pun intended)…

    • grifhunter June 15, 2015, 11:44 am

      Kent State?

  • D Hicks June 15, 2015, 10:08 am

    Where are the US MARINES building ” mini towns ” ?, my son is a MARINE Staff Sgt, and I have not heard him say anything about that. Feel free to put out a list of areas these mini towns are near.

    • Administrator June 15, 2015, 10:18 am

      Click the link

  • dancinbill June 15, 2015, 9:59 am

    all i can say is if “they” want to imprison you for some nefarious/bogus reason, you better believe the “play imprisonment” will turn the real thing. if this happens to you, can bet “yomomma” has tagged you as someone who is not playing by his rules and the play imprisonment will turn into a death sentence offense for you. now i pray to God almighty i am wrong about jade helm but i am going to be prepared for the worst just like y2k. yes after y2k passed i was laughed at, so what, i’d have been the one laughing if y2k had been the disaster it was portrayed to be. what will your response be to that knock on the door in the middle of the night, when jade helm calls out, ” you are under arrest. come with us now”. one way or the other you are on your way to meet your maker. the timing is up to you and if you meet Him alone or you take several with you. your choice but it is the change you voted you wanted. good luck.

  • Eric Blatter June 15, 2015, 9:32 am

    As a retired active duty and National Guard soldier I understand the need for training by units and soldiers for a myriad of circumstances. Also, as a retired soldier, I believe that there is no better way for our government to start another shooting revolution than by actually building and then attempting to fill Detention Camps with American Citizens. Now I’m pretty sure that many soldiers would and could participate in the detention of arrested illegal aliens with no problem, however I can’t remember serving with a single soldier that would do the same for an American citizen. This was “put to the test” during deployment to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina where NG soldiers were tasked with helping to control potential violence. All I knew that participated in that deployment were disturbed at some of the orders they were given regarding confiscating firearms and having to possibly arrest people. To the point that they would not support orders to arrest, detain, or fire upon Americans. Soldiers take an oath to the Constitution, not to the political apparatus in power. Soldiers (in my opinion) would not arrest, detain, or engage with weapons Americans merely because they were ordered to as such an order violates their oath and the laws of this nation. Every soldier I’ve known would refuse such orders. So, I have faith in the intelligence, sense, and purpose of duty in America’s military. “To protect against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.” I took that oath five or six times myself, there is no expiration date on it, and every veteran I know feels the same.

    • Doubtom June 15, 2015, 3:39 pm

      If there’s no expiration date, then why did you take it five times?? Seriously. You should be able to invoke the original oath as binding and any additional oaths as unnecessary.
      As for being sure that no soldier would fire on American citizens I refer you to our history at Kent University. There’s always been enough stoops that go along with the power structure to make it hum along. Sane with the cops! That’s the unfortunate truth!

      • LCDR USN Ret June 16, 2015, 5:21 pm

        Eric took the oath 5 or 6 times, because it is administered every time one enlists, or re-enlists.
        In my case, I took it upon original enlistment in 1972, re-enlistment in 1978, and then subsequently, when I was commissioned in 1980. That’s three times I swore allegiance to the Constitution, and I am still bound by my oath!.

    • JtothaK June 15, 2015, 6:21 pm

      I agree in that most current military and vets are, as a whole, very protective of the Constitution. However, our future military is already being indoctrinated at institutions like West Point, with what should be considered very alarming material: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/

      It’s just a matter of time and more indoctrination that a culture shift occurs in the military from the pro-Constitutional to the pro-State. The oath sworn to the Constitution will, at that point (and to a certain extent, already is), be rendered to nothing more than lip service.

    • DP June 17, 2015, 1:14 am

      Who ever said it’s going to our soldiers doing the detaining? It’s possible since there are always going to be the” Brain Washed” ones of the bunch that will blindly follow orders. I don’t believe that most and as in most I mean 95% of our troops would obey such orders. I’ll leave you with something to think about. While we’re stuck on worrying if our troops are going to arrest and detain us there is a whole UN force waiting in the wings that’s a much more unsettling thought and they aren’t bound by our Constitution.

    • Ken June 20, 2015, 5:32 pm


  • R. Weaver June 15, 2015, 9:24 am

    Please any “list” already has most of our names on it . That’s just something you know when you exercise your rights in the face of tyranny. ” They ” don’t need this article to put people on the list when they have all our data already. But I digress. I’ve read a lot of articles like this and the comments that follow. I hear aot of advice on prepping and food and all basically ” crawl in a hole and hope its over soon ” mentality. Where are the individuals and groups that are preparing for a stand instead of a lay down until the dust settles. These are the times and abuses our leaders of the past warned us about. Unless our national guard and local malitias are able to work together at a split second notice I feel we will end up with a ton of ” lone wolf” resistors and no coordinated effort to change and stop the course of the federal agenda. If anyone knows or is part of a citizens group please speak up so others like myself can contribute to a coordinated effort to resist what’s comming. Us “Yankees” have been behind enemy lines for years. Now the west and south get a taste and I’m happy with the upheaval its causing. As individuals we are easily detered. As ONE we can write our own page of history.

    • boone1 June 16, 2015, 7:58 pm

      When they come I’m ready have a lot to give one round at a time that’s the way I will go out.

  • Abner T June 15, 2015, 8:31 am

    I’m not surprised that nobody’s commented.

    It automatically adds their name to the government’s ‘hit list’ when the time comes for the roundup…

    • D Hicks June 15, 2015, 10:00 am

      I’m already on there list. It’s the domino effect, state by state.

  • John June 15, 2015, 8:27 am

    And all those liberal Yankees up north, laughed and called our Texas Governer Gregg Abbott an idiot for having our Texas State Guard keep an eye on this Jade Helm operation being carried out here in Texas. And don’t think that we as Texan’s aren’t preparing ourselves for a Federal Onslaught ! We fought the Federals once and we will damn sure fight them again if need be !!!
    God Bless Texas !!!!

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