Obama Calls for Gun Ban: Weapons of War Don’t Belong on Streets

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In the wake of a shooting at a Planned Parenthood center in Colorado, president Barack Hussein Obama called yet again for gun bans.

“This is not normal. We can’t let it become normal. If we truly care about this — if we’re going to offer up our thoughts and prayers again, for God knows how many times, with a truly clean conscience — then we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them. Period. Enough is enough,” said Obama.

At the time of writing this, the type of gun the crazed shooter Robert Dear used in the attack was not made public, though authorities said it was a “long gun,” which means it could have been any number of firearms: hunting rifle, shotgun, modern sporting rifle, etc. Nevertheless, Obama referred to it both as a “weapon of war” and an “assault weapon” in his statement.

“Weapon of war” and “assault weapon,” ah yes, the hallmark language of the anti-gunner. We’ve heard these words uttered a million times before from Obama, the Clintons, Feinstein, Bloomberg, Schumer, you know, the usual suspects. It’s important to recognize what they’re doing when they use them. They’re lying — or at the very least they’re misleading the non-gun owning public in an attempt to dupe them into supporting unconstitutional gun bans.

An “assault weapon” is a made-up term by anti-gunners that perverts the traditional definition of “assault rifle,” a rifle with select fire or full auto capabilities. By “assault weapon,” the gun grabbers are typically referring to a semiautomatic rifle with a detachable magazine that has one or more of the following features: barrel shroud, pistol grip, collapsable stock, forward grip, among others. As we know, these — as the industry calls them — “modern sporting rifles” are widely popular and commonly owned. Despite the menacing name, “assault weapons” are not evil or scary or more dangerous than any other traditional firearm that shares their caliber. And conventionally speaking, they’re not “weapons of war.”

A weapon of war is an assault rifle! Not an “assault weapon,” if you want to use the gun-grabber terminology. It is not a semi-automatic, modern sporting rifle. A weapon of war is an M16. Not an AR-15! When Obama says there is easy access to “weapons of war” he is lying. True weapons of war, which are intentionally designed for combat and have full auto capabilities, are heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act and prohibitively expensive. Consequently, most “weapons of war” available to the public end up in the hands of wealthy collectors. Weapons of war are not on the streets nor are they easy to get. That’s the reality.

There is another point to be made, though, about modern sporting rifles and how often they are used in the perpetration of a crime. While the White House narrative suggests these “assault weapons” are public enemy number one, the reality is that they are very rarely used in deadly shootings. In fact, rifles of any make or model are rarely used in to commit crimes. Here is what researcher John Lott Jr. had to say not only the frequency with which rifles are used in crimes but what happened to the murder rate following the expiration of the Clinton-era ban on “modern sporting rifles.”

“Since the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired in September 2004, murder and overall violent-crime rates have fallen. In 2003, the last full year before the law expired, the U.S. murder rate was 5.7 per 100,000 people, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Report. By 2011, the murder rate fell to 4.7 per 100,000 people. One should also bear in mind that just 2.6% of all murders are committed using any type of rifle,” wrote Lott in a Wall Street Journal article in 2013.

In other words, banning black rifles had no effect on the murder rate! What’s more, the widespread availability of modern sporting rifles on the consumer market did not increase the murder rate! Given this empirical evidence, any reasonable individual would conclude that modern sporting rifles are not a threat to public safety. Moreover, modern sporting rifles are not the evil scary monster that Obama and his gun-control cohorts make them out to be.

So, what we have on our hands is a president that is lying to us. Obama is attempting to intimidate and mislead the public via his anti-gun rhetoric. He wants Joe public to believe that “weapons of war” are flooding the streets of American cities, and that crazy individuals have no problem obtaining them. He wants Joe public to believe that modern sporting rifles are a menace to society. He wants Joe public to believe that if we were to ban these rifles it would somehow make a difference. Sadly, and despite the fact that Obama is wrong on all accounts, his efforts are paying dividends.

A 2014 Rasmussen poll found that 59 percent of respondents favored a ban on “assault weapons.” That means that roughly six out of 10 Americans believe this “assault weapons” and “weapons of war” nonsense. It goes without saying, but we have to double down on our efforts to get the facts out there. We have to continue to educate and enlighten non-gun owners as to the lies that are coming out of Washington. If we don’t, if we fail to teach folks that modern sporting rifles are purposefully designed for civilian use, then we will lose our right to keep and bear them.  Bottom line, if things don’t change, the gun-banners will win.

Below is a list of facts that the National Shooting Sports Foundation has assembled about modern sporting rifles.  It’s good to have this handy, especially when you know that you’re going to have an opportunity to preach the gospel of guns to a non-believer. Continue to spread the word.  Go forth and enlighten!

  • AR-15-platform rifles are among the most popular firearms being sold. They are today’s modern sporting rifle.
  • The AR in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.”
  • AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic — a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.
  • If someone calls an AR-15-style rifle an “assault weapon,” he or she either supports banning these firearms or does not understand their function and sporting use, or both. Please correct them. “Assault weapon” is a political term created by California anti-gun legislators to ban some semi-automatic rifles there in the 1980s.
  • AR-15-style rifles look like military rifles, such as the M-16, but function like other semi-automatic civilian sporting firearms, firing only one round with each pull of the trigger.
  • Versions of modern sporting rifles are legal to own in all 50 states, provided the purchaser passes the mandatory FBI background check required for all retail firearm purchasers.
  • Since the 19th century, civilian sporting rifles have evolved from their military predecessors. The modern sporting rifle simply follows that tradition.
  • These rifles’ accuracy, reliability, ruggedness and versatility serve target shooters and hunters well. They are true all-weather firearms.
  • Chamberings include .22, .223 (5.56 x 45mm), 6.8 SPC, .308, .450 Bushmaster and about a dozen others. Upper receivers for pistol calibers such as 9 mm, .40, and .45 are available. There are even .410 shotgun versions.
  • These rifles are used for many different types of hunting, from varmint to big game. And they’re used for target shooting in the national matches.
  • AR-15-style rifles are no more powerful than other hunting rifles of the same caliber and in most cases are chambered in calibers less powerful than common big-game hunting cartridges like the 30-06 Springfield and .300 Win. Mag.
  • The AR-15 platform is modular. Owners like being able to affix different “uppers” (the barrel and chamber) to the “lower” (the grip, stock).
  • And, they are a lot of fun to shoot!

 

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  • Allacrossamerica December 14, 2016, 11:58 am

    This MMF in our White House is a dangerous and evil man. The next 34 days BEING the most dangerous. MM stands for Muslim Marxists – I let you ponder what the “F” stands for

  • Linus December 9, 2016, 3:39 pm

    Only 42 more days for our POTUS, he will be missed…..by all the Anti-2A nutters.

    We all know he’s just counting down the days hoping he doesn’t see another mass casualty event on his term.

    His legacy will be not about any positive thing he did for us, rather just the simple fact he was the 1st black president. Sadly, Ben Carson was clearly more qualified to hold that spot – not the “community organizer” from Chiraq (a shining example of his policies in action).

    Goodbye Barack. I do not see history being kind to you.

    • Ralph Sprovier December 14, 2016, 11:39 am

      The last 30 days of this man will be dangerous to our liberty – the MMF that occupies our White House is an evil man. MM stands for Muslim Marxist – I let you ponder what the the “F” stands for!

  • Nolan Raborn September 16, 2016, 7:02 am

    To obummer, a weapon of war is any gun not in the hands of his THUGS!

  • Sam March 6, 2016, 9:01 pm

    We MUST do something about all this violence. We can start by banning workplaces, schools, theaters. If that doesn’t work, we can start banning all government buildings. And if the violence continues, we should push for a 100% armed population. Writing laws has certainly eliminated crime, so you know government action is required.

  • Blair January 18, 2016, 7:43 am

    I believe in the idea of getting the truth out there for those in the general voting public to have a clear understanding of the different types and classifications of both semi and full automatic firearms . These articles are generally preaching to the choir so to speak, as the larger percentage of your reading public are already law abiding gun owners. What if we , your readers , decided to take matters into our own hands so to speak and solicited the services of our local gun shop and shooting ranges to have a coordinated week or month long effort nation wide to offer education to the less initiated non-gun owning public to help in the effort to clear the air of these grave misconceptions that threaten our ability to possess and enjoy any firearm legally available for consumer purchase. This would take some effort on the part of manufacturers and sellers of firearms , accessories and ammo but could become the start of a national movement to change the flavor of the kool-aid .

    • Blair January 19, 2016, 7:47 am

      Update: I went and spoke with the landlord of the building I work in , he was right next door at his business , A GUN SHOP , I proposed what I spoke of in my earlier comment and was a little surprised at his response. As I spoke about how these misconceptions and perceived classifications of guns are becoming a tool to chip away at the right to own some guns and how it would eventually remove some guns from the legal to own list ,I could see the wheels turning in his mind… Then after a few moments of deep thought he simply said “THAT’S WHAT THE NRA DOES” , What,REALLY ??? Yeah I shortly figured out that he as a shop-owner does in fact LOVE the perceived threat to our rights because of the way the general public is flocking to his store to buy guns by the thousands ,especially first time gun buyers , as I have spent quite a bit of time in many a local gun shop I can honestly say the numbers are up , way up for the number of first time buyers and he for one couldn’t be happier than a PIG IN S # * T RIGHT NOW , So why press for change ?

  • Boba Fett December 7, 2015, 1:45 pm

    OBAMA CALLS FOR GUN BAN: “WEAPONS OF WAR DON’T BELONG ON STREETS…”
    “…OF AMERICA,” he continued. “But other countries’ streets? Yeah, we’re gonna hose ’em down good. No ‘Doctors Without Borders’ facilities will terrorize innocent people on my watch. You guys can edit this right?” Silence fell over the room.

  • rabrooks December 5, 2015, 11:45 pm

    Does the new catch-phrase “weapons of war” include those terrible battle rifles like Win 1873, Sharps Buffalo Rifle, Spring 1903, Garands, 1911’s, Colt Peacemakers and Gattling Guns? If I load up two cylinders for a Colt Army, would I be in possesion of an illegal weapon?

  • rabrooks December 5, 2015, 11:39 pm

    To speak factually and accurately, he somehow forgot what just happened in France, as well as what is a daily occurrence in Mexico. Obozo at his beast! I f we are sooooooo tired of mass shootings, why don’t we ban all mudslimes? There would have been no 9-11 event, Ft Hood event, Ft Dix attempt, NC recruiter event, and no Calif shooting event. Besides, ever wonder why so many dope dealers are mudslimes?

  • John W December 5, 2015, 10:40 pm

    Assault weapon is nothing but a term used by liberals to define a rifle that they wish to ban. In reality they wish to ban ALL guns. In the 1970’s they used a term Saturday Night Special to define what they called cheap handguns used by criminals. It failed. Now the liberals would have you believe that criminals have gone from cheap handguns to expensive rifles. Bullshit. It’s all a ploy to disarm America. In reality if the liberals had their way we would all become sheep while they were the wolves.

  • Dan December 5, 2015, 10:59 am

    The government used and worked with mind control for many years and don’t you think they could use it today to befriend someone that already had mental issues to go out and kill!! Someone like the president who wanted to push their agenda of gun control what better way than mind control! Since he has been in office 162 mass shooting and after each one he attempts to disarm America!!! Wake up don’t think a conspiracy like mind control couldn’t take place. Charlie Manson, Jim Jones think about it!!

  • Mick December 5, 2015, 9:40 am

    If I’m not mistaken illeagal drugs are readily available almost anywhere in this country. The people that buy and sell are criminals. It looks like the only people that will be able to get these “evil guns” will be the criminals.

  • Jon December 5, 2015, 9:21 am

    So, now, what we do for Barry, is give his secret service team colt paterson revolvers, to carry because they were not “war guns ” and they could also carry Hawken rifles, also not war tools. See how that works for his liberal self assurance.

  • Jerry December 5, 2015, 3:56 am

    The ” Weapons of War” our Wiener and Chief is wanting to out law can be applied to almost any fire arm on the market. I own a 1903 A2 Springfield 30-06. At one time it was a “Weapon of War”. The 1911 Colt .45 pistol is a “Weapon of War”. The Remington 700 was a “Weapon of War” The 30-30 was a “Weapon of War’. My point being, what can not be considered a “Weapon of War”? That language can apply to meany a weapons out there, no just the AR platform weapons.

    • Jay Jones December 9, 2016, 4:34 pm

      Why does no one complain about the Secret Service that Protects the President, every weapon that they carry is a weapon of WAR. Also his car and those that lead and follow him, have the most sophisticated weapons know to man and some are not even available to the MILITARY!!!!

  • Alan B. December 5, 2015, 3:15 am

    Didn’t Nobama just tell us that there were No credible Threats against the U.S.A.? It’s kind of (H’mm) Funny that radical Islams threats to Kill Americans don’t qualify as credible to the POTUS… typical for that POSER in chief.

  • James Pratt December 5, 2015, 1:46 am

    Obama should explain why Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the country and yet has a very high violent crime rate with the drug trafficking running rampant. He should be concentrating on curbing the drug trafficking, not curbing the ownership of guns by law-abiding citizens. But, being the politician that he is, he has to sing the song that the liberals want to hear.

  • Buck whistler December 4, 2015, 9:03 pm

    What is that old saying, They will get my GUN when they pry my cold dead finger from around the trigger. There are some things worth dying for and my guns and the right to have them are one of them. IT would not bother me in the least if all the politicians in Washington , democrats and republicans and independents were all wiped out by a nuclear bomb this country would still move on and the law of the land would be the law of the GUN.

  • Red Baron December 4, 2015, 7:14 pm

    We actually should have weapons of war. The Second Amendment was designed to allow us to overthrow the government if it became tyrannical. We were never designed to have a huge standing army. Look what it does. It goes around the world meddling in every other country’s business (as long as they are small, so we can bully them, of course.). Bring on the machine guns. We will need them. Tyrannical governments don’t leave quietly.

  • Tom Horn December 4, 2015, 5:24 pm

    It has been four days since the San Bernardino, CA shootings. Pres. Obama has yet to declare this shooting an act of terrorism, despite the evidence. He Sooooo, wants this to be just another domestic mass shooting. He wants to portray this as a unique cancer growing within us (America), that can only be removed surgically with gun bans.

    1. There is no difference between the foreign terrorist, and the domestic mass shooters. They want the same thing: Attention (to their cause or plight). Don’t let the govt. define some artificial distinction to serve their cause.

    2. These shootings are often happening in states, regions that have the strictest gun laws. Ex: California, Paris, (Chicago, IL is just one perpetual mass shooting). The Paris, and San Bernardino shootings show that terrorists/criminals will ignore gun bans/laws, but your average citizen will be left defenseless in these victim zones. And, Obama wants one big Victim Zone. Ask yourself, Why?

    3. We declared a War on Terrorism after 9/11, and recognized that America is on the front line of that battlefield. But for some reason, this President wants us to ignore this fact and consider ourselves safe, but for the firearms that We The People possess. Why?

  • Pat Bryan December 4, 2015, 5:10 pm

    Civilian hunting rifles have evolved from military rifles because they are usually available cheap after we have fought wars.

  • jay Warren Clark December 4, 2015, 4:16 pm

    The President lies; mass shootings are being done abroad every day by our own forces who are more than willing to involve themselves in illegal and immoral wars against people who have never done us any harm whatsoever. Hypocrisy! But then that is what big government does–and all at the same time that it claims to represent the people! Nonsense and balderdash!
    If you want to know who the real terrorists are, just count the bodies–all the way back to Vietnam and before. That should clear things up.
    Oh, and read Fletcher Proudy’s book “JFK:…”. That should make it clear that all of these “conflicts” are created by nefarious, murderous, forces behind our own government. JWC

  • Jay December 4, 2015, 4:10 pm

    “This is not normal. We can’t let it become normal. If we truly care about this — if we’re going to offer up our thoughts and prayers again, for God knows how many times, with a truly clean conscience — then we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them. Period. Enough is enough,” said Obama.
    Completely correct! It is Not Normal for any President of these United States to speak a single word against Our Constitution guarantee to freedom, AKA the 2nd Amendment! We will not let it be normal because We The People Care About Our Country and our life and the life’s of those around us! We The People have a clean conscience because we don’t own firearms just for killing other humans, We use them for many reasons and have them because we know that any President or administration that so blatantly disregards Our Constitution and the safety of it’s citizens with wide open borders, is a danger to all of us, We need the 2nd amendment now more than ever before! Any firearm can be a weapon of war, no matter the shape size and or caliber and that is why no other country in the world will ever step foot on American soil to defeat us and take our life’s because we have the 2nd amendment and our citizens are armed !We The People are a 80 million plus strong Army. Enough is enough alright,, and we are listening, We will not let the USA become a Hitlers Germany!
    The Patriot!

  • Parabellum December 4, 2015, 3:58 pm

    True to form, Ubama does all in his power as the America-hater-in-chief to give us war in our streets, then declares there’s no place for weapons of war in our streets. Maybe he hasn’t figured out everyone isn’t as stupid as the dolts who voted for him.

  • Rene B December 4, 2015, 2:09 pm

    Alright, this seems to be a recurrent theme, bad guy shoots lots of people–president [politician(s)] target guns and gun ownership. Do you see the pattern? Well neither one makes any sense because neither one addresses the problem effectively nor judiciously. In the case of the bad guy we can say that these misguided persons elect to use firearms to inflict maximum damage onto society for reasons that vary and span a wide spectrum of motives–non which justify mass-murder. In the case of the president [politician(s)] they’re only interested on a quick and indiscriminate measure with an end result which unfairly harms every gun owner in order to address a problem (mass-murder). The better idea, however, is neither quick nor cheap. Being that bad guys will eventually find the courage to harm as many people as possible, the task for government employees is to endear their policies and governing style to reflect the wishes and will of the people–not just the wishes and will of some people. Conversely, it will take time, considerable expense, and a willingness to implement governing policies that clearly distinguish between the sovereign right(s) of law abiding people and the urgent need to deal with people who will act outside of lawful means–regardless whether they use any weapon or other means also familiar to the law abiding amongst us. That’s right folks, what is at stake here is not guns alone but just as much are “other means” and for that matter any means. Indiscriminate measures to restrict or prohibit all is never the response to individual acts of lawlessness. Anyone who champions the push to restrict or prohibit everyone for the devious acts of a few is only motivated by the promise of greater and broader control over people–period! Effective government only does what is necessary to address a problem while, at the same time, avoiding the catastrophic failures that come with absolutism.

  • Methadras December 4, 2015, 1:52 pm

    All you need to know is that Obama and his leftist cohorts are all lying, are liars, and will continue to lie for their leftist ideological cause. That’s it. Either you defeat them first or they will defeat you. Stop them now in their tracks and keep the push back in place hard and faster than they can adapt. No Quarter. No mercy.

    They won’t do it for you, so why sit back, grin and bear it? Don’t wilt under their feeble claims because you don’t like confrontation.

  • george g December 4, 2015, 1:39 pm

    Let’s everyone start calling the AR, American Rifle, which is what it is.
    We need to get the people sitting on the fence of gun control, that are patriotic to understand this is America’s Rifle. How could an American patriot ban America’s Rifle? The GCs made up a name for ARs by calling them assault rifles, lets start officially calling them AR = American Rifle. Lets go as far as having all manufactures make room on their engraved logos for an American flag. Let’s push American patriotism and the American Rifle. Good Bless America and the Republic!

  • Blankovich December 4, 2015, 1:06 pm

    When the current resident of the white house opens his mouth all I hear is “Blah, blah, blah, blah.” Kind of like the adults speaking on a Peanuts cartoon on TV. Nothing intelligible or sensible comes out of that orifice. So, having said that, my comment here is that we all need to stop discussing the technical ins and outs of AR15’s or shotguns or handguns or whatever. When Obama or Bloomberg or whoever is spouting their lies about a particular firearm type or the level of gun violence in our country, they KNOW that they are lying and they don’t care. This is propaganda 101, lie louder and more often than your opponents and paint those opponents as unreasonable monsters. They are deeply committed Leninists. Not to talk down to anyone on this forum, but a Leninist is the worst of the various type of socialists. (Democrats, progressives, leftists, socialists, communists, European politicians of most stripes, etc.) A Leninist will fight against civilian ownership of firearms tooth and nail. Tooth is them constantly blasting us with lies about our sacred right enshrined in the 2nd Amendment. Nail is them actually rooting for inciting or actually carrying out violence with firearms to then splash across the news to convince the ignorant American that “something” must be done. The last publically known example of “nail” was the Eric Holder Justice Department literally giving AR15’s to Mexican drug gangs hoping that they would then be used to kill innocent Americans and then we would have a huge issue to move to ban them. Unfortunately for Obama and the Justice Department one of those AR’s was used to kill a border patrol agent and everything came out about Eric Holder’s involvement with the ATF in the whole, sordid, mess. Now, once the Leninists get guns banned from the general public, only they will have guns and they WILL use them against all other Americans. This is exactly what happened in the Russian revolution. Violence spawned by Lenin under the cover of Marx’s writings caused enough havoc in the country that the Czar stepped down. As soon as that happen Lenin’s thugs went door to door to collect all guns and reserved their use only for Leninists bless by Lenin himself. Lenin would kill anyone who didn’t cooperate and, indeed, murdered the Czar and his entire family. Don’t think that Obama or any other committed Leninist wouldn’t round up gun owners and send them to re-education camps or simply kill them where they stand.

  • Jonny Citizen December 4, 2015, 1:02 pm

    Its true weapons of war have no place on the streets, so you can start by taking them away from the cops. During the coverage of these unfortunate events I saw cops with full auto mp5s, sniper rifles with silencers, armored vehicles with large caliber machine guns mounted. Our government is responsible for turning our streets into a battle ground. Spend less money fighting someone else’s war over seas and pay a little more attention to the real issues at home.

  • Bob December 4, 2015, 12:37 pm

    If guns are banned, only Obama will have guns. Boy, that sounds scary, doesn’t it? How about that one about “There is not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS”. If they want to reinstate the NSA (which is not totally a bad idea) they can do it only if they appoint a Republican to be in charge of it. One of the “Czars” they made such a big deal about a while ago. That will totally stop that idea because there is no way that the Dems will let something powerful as a controlling speech tool be run by a Republican. Recall many years ago when the Dems were neurotic about everything the Republicans did. Remember all the crap that they raised about Watergate? It was nothing compared to the scandals of the last seven years. Yet all of the current scandals are dismissed. We need to get the Dems out while there is still an America to save, and we need to get it done soon, perhaps it is time for the impeachment. The terrorist attack in California may be just the ticket to get the guy out of the White House before the terrorists burn it to the ground with “workplace violence.”

  • Boz December 4, 2015, 11:52 am

    We, The People, call for muslim jihadist-In-Chief ban.

  • Larry December 4, 2015, 11:18 am

    Obama! Looking for ways to violate our citizen rights by disarming use morning, noon & night!
    Obama! The single most dangerous enemy of America walking the face of the earth!

  • Jerry December 4, 2015, 10:59 am

    Obama and all the anti gun nuts are going to get more people killed than less with their legislative bans. All one has to do is look to the current situation in the Middle East. The muslims have been at war, not only with Christains but also the different sects within the muslim religion; Suni and Shite. The problem Americans will have to deal with is not the one we face now but the one we will face in 10-15 years when all the muslims obama is now admitting will start a new front against Christains and each other. The same wars being fought in the middle east will be fought on the streets in America. They have been fighting each other for over 2000 years and anyone who thinks that will not happen here is crazy. Just wait until the muslims start demanding more mosques, more schools teaching the koran,and more women wearing the traditional head coverings. They are already causing problems in cities where they want to obtain drivers license but refuse to have their pictures taken. Many of them desire the Sharia Law be the law of the land. Women subjugated to a life of misery.
    The fact is we have different beliefs and they mix like oil and water. As the population increased in the Middle East, so did conflict. Obama says that no other country has the level of mass killings as the United States but look at the numbers killed by bombs and guns in all countries worldwide. And 99.9% is done by muslims against Christians and other muslims. He is simply trying to gain support for the gun control he desires.
    I never carried a weapon when I was younger and only did so after the level of violence increased in EVERY city that I lived and worked. I could give dozens of reasons why people need to carry for self defense but the only thing that needs to be said and repeated, “Its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.” If you have ever been or get into a situation where some Ahole has made up his mind to kill you, you will appreciate the constitution and the 2nd amendment.

  • Allen Benge December 4, 2015, 10:45 am

    Obama is a total twit. The idea behind the Second Amendment, according to additional writings from the time, was that Americans should have the same weapons as those fielded by the military. At the time, yes, it was the Brown Bess musket, and some people today even believe that is the only firearm we should be allowed to have. The Brown Bess was the assault weapon of it’s day, because it was used by the British and Hessian troops. The weapon used by the foot soldier today is is the M16/M4 AR-style rifle. the Ar-15 has become the most popular rifle in the country today. It is reliable, accurate, versatile, and can be easily customized to suit it’s owner. The AR-style rifle ( stands for Armalite Rifle, not Assault Rifle) is easy to shoot, has very low recoil, and huge amounts of ammo are available, due to it being a NATO cartridge. The Second Amendment was most certainly NOT about hunting, or even home defense. The Second Amendment was meant to provide the citizen with the ability to defend his community and country, in the event we ever had an Obama-type president or government. The Second Amendment is the only thing we have to protect the existence of the other sections of the Bill of Rights. Lose the Second, and the government will be able to ignore the rest of the rights enumerated in the Constitution.

  • T. December 4, 2015, 10:44 am

    These people in San Bernardino are (were) terrorists. Wake up Mr. President. We are at war with ISIS. At least they they are at war with us. All the rest of the world. They are here! They are recruiting our children, training them, and radicalizing them to turn on us and do their work for them, afterwhich they will be beheaded. So you want us to lay down our arms and give up our right tp defend our own lives and our families, to make it easier for them? Weren’t you touted as a muslim yourself before the first election? Whose side are you on, really? Do you really plan to leave office in Jan 17, or revert back to what you said in 2008 that eight years is not enough to do all the things YOU wanted to get done.? Really? you? not us? Us as in “we the people”.

  • omarthegoatfooker December 4, 2015, 10:08 am

    the pure and simple reason obama wants your guns is so there can be more events like in california earlier this week. he wants 140 not 14 bodies on the ground at each of the peaceful moslim demonstrations put on by the oh so intolerant rheads. if you are armed you might hurt one of his buds and that would upset ol’ollie.

  • Randy Haskins December 4, 2015, 9:52 am

    Ok, I’m going to say it. If that stupid mf would quit letting Muslims into the U.S. , this would not be happening. What race were the shooters in calistupid? Muslims. Boston marathon? Muslims. Waco army base? Muslim. Need I go on ? WAKE UP AMERICA. before it’s too late.

  • L Cavendish December 4, 2015, 9:37 am

    You first…no more secret service protection with guns…for you or and past or present politicians or family.

  • Disgusted Citizen December 4, 2015, 9:20 am

    EVERY weapon ever created has been used in a war, at some point in human history. Does this mean that we can’t even have muskets (civil war, revolutionary war)? Bows and arrows? Swords? Knives? Slings and rocks?

    Get real.

  • Bayou Ogre December 4, 2015, 9:15 am

    That’s it, disarm the general populace, so that they are defenseless against the criminal element and terrorist attacks. So That they will beg the government to defend them, turning them from citizens with rights into subjects, subjected to the whims of those who control the government! If you can find it, read a book entitled “Sleep, Two, Three, Four!” by John Neufeld. Find it on Amazon.

  • Terry December 4, 2015, 9:11 am

    What is sad is there is still a bunch of gun owners who vote for Dems no matter what and then cry the blues when something happens that threatens to take their guns. The Dems all follow Obama because of the money they will loose for their re election bid. Wake up people and do your research before you vote. By the same token just because someone belongs to the NRA doesn’t mean they want you to keep your gun.

    • Blankovich December 4, 2015, 5:36 pm

      I have some friends who are gay. I like them a lot but they are single issue voters and they constantly complain about high tax rates and are gun owners who are staunch 2A supporters. They KNOW they need to be ready to protect themselves against some people who hate them because they are gay. BUT, they freely admit that they vote against their best interests in taxation and 2A issues as they only cared about being able to get married.

  • Daniel December 4, 2015, 9:02 am

    Can’t remember the last time I took my AK on the streets for a walk. Who is doing that…..?

  • u.s. army vet December 4, 2015, 8:54 am

    I am so sick of this so called president we have. Allways attacking our Constitution. He has no buisness in the Whitehouse. He is not a American. He does not have the country or the people’s best interest in mind. He has done nothing but try to cripple our country. He is a Muslim and now his new venture is trying to get his Muslim terrorist buddies into our country. This gun ban he has been working on sense he has been in office is just another cog in his plan to disarm everyone so it will be easier for his isis buddies he is trying to get into the u.s. under the grounds of refugees. Refugees my ass obama they are terrorist. I am sure there are a few that are refugees but how many are isis. The American people are not stupid obama and sooner or later we are going to say enough is enough. I just wish the majority of us were not so lazy. If that was the fact you would not be in office rite now and our country would not be in jeopardy and we would have a real Christian president that would uphold there oath to serve the people and the country. NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION STRIP THE RITES OF THE PEOPLE TO FIT YOUR OWN CRIMINAL AGENDA. I AM SURE THIS SPEAKS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. NOT JUST MYSELF. OK NOW TO THE PEOPLE IF YOU WANT CHANGE. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT OUT THE EFFORT. JOIN TOGETHER AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. SITTING ON YOUR BACKSIDE BITCHING ON THE INTERNET IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU ANYTHING. CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN SENATORS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE CLOSE TO WASHINGTON GO PROTEST. IF YOU SHUT DOWN THE STREETS IN WASHINGTON JUST FOR A FEW DAYS CONGRESS WILL HAVE TO LISTEN. THERE IS WAYS FOR US TO BE HERD WE ARE THE MANY AND DO IT IN A PEACEFUL MANNER. WE WANT THIS TO BE A POSITIVE MARK IN THE HISTORY BOOKS. WE DON’T WANT TO LOOK LIKE ALL THESE THUGS THAT BURNT DOWN THERE OWN CITY. THERE I HAVE SAID IT NOW IT’S UP TO YOU EVERY EACH AND ONE OF YOU TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND IT WILL TAKE A JOINT EFFORT. DROP ALL THE RACE BULL!!!! YOU ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND PROUD AMERICANS AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS
    SAVE YOUR COUNTRY AND YOUR RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)!!

    • Jack December 4, 2015, 11:17 am

      It has become very apparent to me that BO was not elected, he was appointed!

  • John W December 4, 2015, 8:18 am

    And this is going to stop who? We have to forfeit our rights as American’s because our President won’t acknowledge terrorism exist? Wake up America it’s just another ploy to disarm American’s.

  • Ro GAL December 4, 2015, 8:11 am

    When the San Bernardino police chief was asked by the media what type of weapons the shooters had, I cringed at his answer.
    “Assault rifles” he said. You mean the same rifles his department was using, “assault” rifles? Why did he not just answer by saying, “semi-auto rifles”? I don’t know if he intentionally gave this answer or not. All I know is it adds to the anti gunners cause of “evil assault rifles”.

  • Well regulated militia man December 4, 2015, 8:10 am

    B. Hussein Obama was correct during his campaign when he endlessly repeated that ” change is going to come”. What he was deceitful or ignorant about was that it will most likely come through the barrel of a rifle. Your plans and your hands off of my rifle, we’ll get along just fine.

  • Steven December 4, 2015, 8:06 am

    The only way that the 2nd Amendment gets repealed is either through a fixed vote or the Federal Government simply rams it through without the voting process, and i fear that such a thing is not far off.

  • Chad J. December 4, 2015, 8:04 am

    I say he needs to get the word out to HIS constituents in the Democratic Party-controlled inner cities, where 80% of America’s gun homicides are committed according to the CDC&P, AND to his other constituents, people like the Tsarnaev brothers, Major Nidal Malik Hasan (the Fort Hood terrorist mass shooter) and Syed Farook and his wife Ashteen Malik, (the San Bernardino terrorist mass shooters) and the others just waiting in the wings. The President’s Islamishness is showing again. Terrorists in Paris, France had absolutely NO PROBLEMS in getting their hands on REAL ‘weapons of war’ like machine guns, grenades, rockets and explosives even though the average-law abiding Frenchman singing “aux armes, citoyens” (to arms, citizens!) can’t get one. This is the man who would import EVEN MORE future Muslim terrorists, but at the same time wants to disarm law-abiding Americans. He is either a complete imbecile or a crypto-Muslim heading the Islamic Fifth Column in America.

    • Jack December 4, 2015, 11:11 am

      I don’t think BO is an either, I think he is both!

      • Blankovich December 4, 2015, 1:17 pm

        Obama is not an idiot. He is a very smart, deeply committed, Marxist/Leninist. He will do and say anything that will not get him physically hurt or killed to push his agenda. 90% of politicians lie, either out right lie or by omission; Obama is literally lying ALL THE TIME. He knows exactly what he is doing; tearing down America.

        • dbhm25 December 10, 2015, 9:06 am

          Obama needs to be stopped. Not just obama, but everyone in his cadre. Their final goals include removing guns from the populace, and thereby making it easier to control us by force.

          People need to stop talking about stopping our government, need to stop this ridiculous idea that it can be changed from the inside, and get off their lazy asses and do something about it. Organize, and remove the dictators from power!

  • Steven December 4, 2015, 7:57 am

    Rasmussen Poll is garbage. 6 out of 10 people believe that “assault weapons” nonsense? How many people (or sheeple) responded ? 10? 100? 1000? Check out the gun sales, concealed carry permit applications, ammo sales, after the recent mass shootings – they’re up “through the roof”. More law-abiding Americans are arming themselves. There’s your poll that speaks the truth!

  • Ryan December 4, 2015, 7:19 am

    “Let me be clear, I am not talking about hunting rifles.” Oh great! Stay away from my AR15 then. Used for coyote hunting, if you need something specific to justify it as a hunting rifle instead of assault weapon.
    Stop talking about these guns as terrible weapons. You are looking to stir the pot. You are giving someone the idea it is a good choice. Stop letting the media spew lies. Let’s not forget that the shooting in California was 3 guys not woman. With automatic weapons. If they were automatic weapons the egg is on Obama’s face for selling our weapons to terrorists.
    This article said it best. AR15 is semi-auto. M16 is full auto. *Sigh* People just trust the government too much.

  • T4TNguns December 4, 2015, 7:11 am

    Can everyone not see that the root cause of this issue is definitely climate change. These poor souls perpetrating these crimes must be without the jobs and resources that would be afforded to them had mankind not destroyed the planet. Sniffing all that released methane gas has sent them over the top. We must arm ourselves well to be able to fight off these poor deranged idiots. Hahahaha…

  • john December 4, 2015, 6:55 am

    The term assault weapon is absurd. If i pick up a bowling ball and hit somebody with it it has become an assault weapon because i assaulted somebody with it should we ban them too? Anything can become an assault weapon if used in an assault. I agree we need to stop pumping people full of antipsychotic drugs but nothing can stop people if they are hellbent on killing people.

  • Al phillips December 4, 2015, 6:26 am

    In california “assault weapons” are alrrady banned which is a horrible term … i can assault you with a baseball bat … high capacity mags are not leagal in california. It has just been proven that just because you put a law in place it wont stop criminals

  • RetNavet December 4, 2015, 5:51 am

    When he arrives in hell, Obama will be sent to the firing range where he will be pistol whipped for eternity with banned guns.

  • SonicEpt December 4, 2015, 5:32 am

    This is getting stupidly boring!! Can’t anyone see this just as all now including the San Bernardino shooting that they have ” false flag” written all over them for one!

    Its just another pathetic reason to pass these stupid gun bans everywhere! If you can’t pass them one way because of people like us that are responsible gun owners and enthusiasts that actually care about our constitutional rights especially the 2nd amendment that won’t allow these ridiculous bans! So then you push them the hard way at the cost of innocent lives right?
    I mean who cares right? Our government officials at the time of 9/11 really didn’t a rats rear end for a few thousands of people in New York City but Mr. President got his Patriot Act passed even though it had been being rejected several times by the house and Senate!
    Let’s not try to cover the sun with one finger here I mean! its beyond obvious a new law or ban wants to get pushed regardless if its rejected and boom a mass shooting to justify why the Ban that just got rejected should get passed I mean really?

    People need to wake up and see the obvious signs here I mean if you wanna play blind that’s solely upon yourself I’m one of those California residents that stands up for my rights and especially a right to bare arms!

    There’s no need to segregate neither middle eastern nor Hispanics nor whites or blacks the mass media pumps so much garbage into the news that it causes my stomach to turn upside down.. Statistically most of the mass shootings are white people if “We” really wanted to point a finger but that’s being ignorant as well. Now they wanna call this “terrorism” the only terrorism that’s going on here is that Big Bother is terrorizing its own people and trying to strip there rights that this country was founded on for there own personal agenda!!

    Its not about craziness nor insanity nor ethnic groups nor nothing! Big Brother plays the instigator roll of getting ethnic groups segregated or religions or what ever you want skies the limit and they easily accomplish it ! Why you may ask ?? Because everyone is so infatuated with there Monday through Sunday night football or the world series, the NBA finals, or NASCAR that no one wakes up and informs them selves and reads and gets informed!!!

    Its pathetically sad how no one gives a shit about anything till they “See the News” then they opinionated and react in the mean time don’t change that channel the games on!!!

    We need to wake up and fight for our rights especially the 2nd amendment because next thing you know it we won’t have none for the simple fact that no one gave a shit and gave up your ass to Big Brother when you had the chance to make a change and didn’t! Like the saying goes “why cover the well hole after the kid drowned”!!

    My 2cents

  • JL brown jr December 4, 2015, 4:08 am

    Sir if you don’t post my response, would you send me the text, I forgot to save it, I would like to have a copy

  • ??? December 4, 2015, 4:03 am

    They need a total ban on the POS in the oval mosque. Most of the shooters other than the mudscum have been on Ritilin or other psycotropic drugs which were forced upon them by the government since grade school. That is why they are unstable. The insanity plea should be buried forever. They certainly knew what they were doing when they pulled the trigger. The punishment should be mandatory Death penalty.

  • J.l. brown Jr December 4, 2015, 3:58 am

    What Obama fails to realize our 2nd amendment was granted to us by our founding fathers to give us the right to defend ourselves from a tyrant that calls itself the government, we should have the right to ave the same weapons that a dictator would use on us! Our 2nd amend was not about hunting, or stopping the mugger, it was to insure “We the people would no longer have to fear the government period, The real reason Obama, Hillary and other democrats want our guns, it’s about controlling us, the people.
    When you take our right to defend our selves from a dictator, our bill of rights won’t mean a thing. All our rights are protected by our 2nd amendment, when we fear our government that tyranny, when they fear us, it’s Democracy! We already have enough gun laws on the books, Joe Biden made one of the most stupid statements, “The reason we need more gun laws, is because we don’t have enough men to enforce the laws we have now. Now just think about that for just a second, we don’t have enough men to enforce the laws we have already, so we want to have more laws, During the wwII Yamamoto told the imperial staff, we cannot hope to invade the United States, because the will be a rifle behind each blade of grass, I would say the minute men of today, the red blooded citizen of the United States of America are needed now more so because the muslim radicals that would do us harm need to be stopped by any and all means available, if that means a contractor who has his gun when he witness’s a act of terrorism, so be it. Obama can’t even udder the words radical Islam, well he either better say those words or get the hell out of the way, the fort hood shooter was a radical Islamist, it was a act of terror, after the planned parenthood shooter Obama could not wait to use the word domestic terror, we have had enough of his selective terrorist statements. Call terrorist what it is, muslim that will do us harm, the real reason you won’t hear it from Obama is because he is a muslim, Here’s a question for Obama! Why did Ambassador Steven have those weapons in Libya? Why was he killed, to coverup the fact that Obama and Hillary were supplying weapons to ISIL? We need those question answered, Hillary deleted a lot of emails, but it’s proven she has lied and should be indicted, and in jail for mis handling classified data! She knew damn good a well what classified data was, and marked classified or not, she knew better.
    You better keep a gun handy, loaded, locked, cocked and ready to rock, the terrorist are here, he is sitting in the people’s house at 1600 penn.

    • Jack December 4, 2015, 10:57 am

      To J.I.brown Jr.,
      I could not agree more and anyone with eyes and an open mind should realize this situation.

      The people in the White House, Supreme Court, Politics (primarily Democrats) have an agenda and are determined to see it through, God help US!

  • Brach janney December 4, 2015, 3:53 am

    I cringe everytime someone mentions us losing our rights to bear arms, or certain arms. Our rights never go away, they are simply infringed upon. The fact is as such. With the first gross infringement of our Constitutionally guaranteed rights we in fact have the rights to check our government through the Supreme courts. If they fail to act in the defense of the constitution then our government has fallen to tyranny rendering their laws ineffectual and unenforceable in totality. The states then are the only legitimate government bodies remaining. Some states already were directly violating the constitution by infringing upon the rights that literally state in their official recognition “shall not be infringed”. It would then be up to the people to ensure that each state’so constitution is not being vioated. It is 100% that simple. There is no secret handshake or special degree required to understand our Constitutionally guaranteed, protected, non infringible rights. All it takes is some good men to act and this nation could be back on course tomorrow , with most of our government living out the remained of their lives in confinement pending thorough review of all happenings from their time of elect, or of employment within the government. It’ll be akin to the hunt for nazis after ww2. They’re still looking today for any who may have gotten away.

    • Austin December 4, 2015, 12:30 pm

      Our rights can be taken away very easily even if they are on a 200+ year old piece of paper. Its like the gold and silver collection in the great depresion, all the president had to do was sign an executive order in a state of emergency and round up all of the precious metals they could find to bail the govt. out. Obama can write that executive order, all he needs is another mass attack like 9/11 or even a tenth the size like Paris.

  • brian December 4, 2015, 3:34 am

    I THINK OBAMA IS A PIECE OF SHIT TO SOCIETY. Hell the whole damn government. Everyday they are raping our rights away by simply saying. Its for your safety my fellow Americans. I think the real terrorist is our own government.

    • Jonny Citizen December 4, 2015, 1:19 pm

      Agreed. I’m in more fear of my govnt than some towel heads 5000 miles away. Cops (regular people in costume in a job they applied for so save me the prostrating of ‘doing your job’) shoot citizens everyday, never saw a foreign fighter shoot an American on american soil.

  • Tom Horn December 3, 2015, 6:16 am

    Bizarre! Instead of saying, “America, we are under increased terrorist attacks. Prepare and arm yourself to defend the U.S.A.”
    Obama says this is unique to America, we’ve gotta’ ban guns. Does he think we have forgot the Paris terrorist attack already. Just more treasonous, anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric.

    • Aaron December 4, 2015, 6:23 am

      I know this sounds odd and conspiracy theory but why is it since Barry took office these crimes have continued to rise exponentially? And why is it always in highly gun restricted areas of city and state or these supposed gun free zones? If more law abiding citizens having firearms on their persons isn’t the answer to a safer U.S. then why is all security with firearms used for more safety of the “elected officials”? It is not to far fetched with how little trust there is in the federal government that they are finding these people that are already off tilt them somehow contacting them to commit these attrocities telling them that they can go down in history with infamy just so they can push their anti gun plans and disarming of America. I know Barry wants to be part of the U.N. and wishes one day to lead that panel. One of the criteria to be part of the U.N. is to have limtied civilian firearm ownership. I know it sounds odd to think this but with the increase spiking so rapidly it makes one wonder why and we all knowore laws will not stop the criminals that is how criminals are, no respect for the law and will do whatever they need to get their job done just like all of the gang shootings around the country that go unreported more than likely because they are committed in cities where guns are illegal (Chicago) or where they are highly restricted (new Orleans)… Sorry but I am one who has little trust in the federal government who knows nothing about the common life or the common man. I mean come on these losers passing the laws think that gun and rifle magazines are disposable!!! They call them clips instead of mags, they often report the wrong caliber with the wrong rifle designation, they like biden think that a 12 guage is easier to handle than a .223/5.56 for females, they always fail to take the overall percentage of gun owners that are legal and compare that to the percentage of crimes committed by the legal owners it is always somebody that is a criminal and is never a law abiding person. This is a fact because once that person is using the firearm for an illegal activity that person is no longer law abiding such as poaching of wildlife, breaking and entering, hijacking, rape, intimidation, gangs, muder, attempted murder etc… A person can go on and on but the fact is more laws mean nothing to criminals that is why they are criminals it only hamlers the law abiding, I know here in utah the sherriffs all got together and wrote a letter to Barry where they stand that they will not honor his anti gun laws should he try to extend them because they refuse to disarm we they law abiding citizens of utah. In order to buy a firearm you have to have a bci background check which is a national search for any criminal record how much more strict can one make it? They could do a psychological evaluation… But that’s where it starts becoming ones opinion and the ones performing the eval can tweek it to meet their agenda, say if they’re on Barry’s side and just fail everyone applying or the other extreme on the GOP side and passing everyone. It is up to a personal opinion not facts which is very dangerous… They only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun…

  • Mark N. December 3, 2015, 1:11 am

    All that is said is true. But it is also true that ARs are an increasingly common choice for persons set on mass murder, largely because of their large capacity magazines and increased lethality compared to handguns. Today’s shootings in San Bernardino, Aurora, Sandy Hook were all committed with ARs, and the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting probably was as well (the police have only said “long gun,” but it seems a logical choice). Just because of today, there will be increased demands that these rifles “just have to go,” and most big city mayors will be on that bus, along with their (majority) voters. California Lt. Governor Gavin Newsome has proposed a ballot initiative to ban the California “Bullet Button,” the work around that allows AR and AK rifles to be legally owned, as well as an ammunition registration and background check scheme–after today, I fear it will be all to easy for this initiative to pass. And if it does, all ARs, even home-builts, will have to be registered, permits (with a bi-annual background check for renewal) will have to be issued to buy ammo, along with record keeping and video of all purchases, and possibly even instant background checks for the same. Internet sales will be history, and ammo prices will go through the roof. All because of some crazies running around with firearms. It is a sad state of affairs indeed.

    • Lying Bastard December 4, 2015, 6:41 am

      Of course, the fact that people are trained to cower in fear makes it easier on the killer. He could even use a single shot shotgun. All he has to do is carry a nice purse full of cartridges; his victims will obligingly wait for him to reload.

    • Joe McHugh December 4, 2015, 7:23 am

      Mark N. Au contraire, mon ami. It is the mayors of most big cities and their supporters, that “just have to go”. obama was almost right when he declared that “…we have to do something about the easy accessibility pf weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them.”

      Let’s help our confused Liar-In-Chief out a bit. If he understood the amendments in the Bill of Rights he would have said:
      “…then we have to do something about making it easier for competent, law-abiding adult citizens to obtain, keep and bear arms according to the intended purpose of the Second Amendment.”

      Now for all who are also confused about the intent of the Second Amendment, let’s review that aim, (pun intended).
      The purpose of the Second Amendment was stated by most of the Founding Fathers but George Washington said it best.
      “A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”

      Washington was clearly describing the antics of the big-eared bipod in the White House. obama is acting as a tyrant and the other two branches of the Federal government are enabling him. What would Washington say about the AR15 style rifle?
      He might say that it should be made available, with the full automatic selector switch, to the individual Americans who wish “…to maintain a status of independence from…” the growing abuses of the Federal government.

      Let’s face it , the Founders didn’t inscribe the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights for the purpose of hunting rabbits. They knew the propensity of all governments is to control the people. When such control becomes intolerable, the people will seek to resist. What better means of resistance is there than “weapons” that are equal to, or even more fearsome than what obama’s jack-booted thugs now carry?

      The first American Revolution rebelled against the lawful government of the day. If things continue as they have been, will those mortal storm clouds come again?

    • drbdkull December 4, 2015, 9:42 am

      You are mis informed. I talked to ATF after the Sandy Hook shooting and the weapon used was a 9mm pistol. An AR style rifle was found in the vehicle. So easy to twist facts.

    • drbdkull December 4, 2015, 10:00 am

      why did you delete my comment about sandy hook being perpetrated with a 9mm handgun and not an AR,dont you like the truth? That came straight from the ATF the following day.

    • Mark Tercsak December 4, 2015, 1:14 pm

      Hello Mark, you say that in these mass hootings it is becomming more prevalent for these mass murderers to use Ar style rifles ? and How do you know this ? and can you site specific cases here in the united states where these Ar’s have been used in multiple mass murder events ? The fact is it is pretty damn easy not to just get an Ar-Civilian rifle, but guess what also the Military version susch as the M-16, M-16-A1, M-16-A2, M-16-A4 and the M4, if you know what you are doing, for example the week of the Paris MassMurder incident, that Saturday, some one or ones broke into a National Guard Armory, I believe in Worchester, Mass, My sister told me about it , The Armory by the ay has no Guards, they rely upon an Alarm system that did not work ! They said I believe 6 M-4 Carbines where stolen, along with other Long Guns and Pistols, I remember when My father was a Cop, the F.B.I. came to him, there was a rail road car full of M-16-A1’s the car was broken into and I believe it was five crates of M-16-A1’s were stolen, My father at the time was the commander of the Burglary Squad in our city and the F.B.I. and police recovered the weapons, agn no posted security ! The fact is if you have the will and you have the money you will obtain what you want. Bad guys and Gals do not obey silly Laws and that Mark is what they think of the Law ans folks like you ! believe I have known some pretty bad people in my time.

    • paul December 4, 2015, 4:21 pm

      The long guns used were not in a ca legal configuration. I doubt if the handguns were on the Ca handgun list. The explosives used were also not legal. Let’s make everything illegal and then only the people who wish to do damage will have them.

  • My Older Brother Chet December 2, 2015, 12:21 pm

    Every one of the spree killers/mass murderers in the last several years drove a car to the location of the crime. I think its clear that the easy access to vehicles is making these events possible. So obviously we need back ground checks for all car sales. That is the only way to stop these heinous crimes. Reasonable common sense. If the AAA opposes these laws its because they are terrorists.

    • John December 4, 2015, 6:57 am

      I can’t decide whether to laugh or cry at this because our this almost sounds like something our Idiot-In-Chief would consider 😀

    • John December 4, 2015, 6:58 am

      I can’t decide whether to laugh or cry at this because this almost sounds like something our Idiot-In-Chief would consider 😀

      • Bob December 4, 2015, 12:26 pm

        John, you should cry because it IS something that our Idiot-In-Chief is not only considering, but trying to figure out a way to ram it through. Then when the terrorists (or whoever) start kicking your door in, you will know how the sitting ducks in the gun-free-zones feel. Not a good thought. Fortunately the guy is on his way out, and with the California debacle, it may be a lot sooner.

      • Batman December 4, 2015, 8:03 pm

        I agree with you -Fuck Obama! He’s the biggest threat to national security along with the rest of his Left wing Liberal scumbag administration.

        • Jim December 4, 2015, 9:58 pm

          Obama is a f_c_ing Muslim. To be a USA president you must be a US born citizen. He was/ is not! How the hell did they get away w/ that shit? If people open their eyes, look & listen- we already have marshal law in states & areas. The congress shit not only wants to take away firearms; they want our freedom. They are trying to our ban firearms, as well as our freedom. Like owning a firearm, IS Only a f_c_ing “privilege. Same as driving a vehicle- a f- “gov’t Privilege! There is about 80+ new laws made every year! This takes away freedom from law abiding citizens. Its all part of NWO, [new world order]. China owns the USA anyway. We” be forced to abide by their law shit, & fly their f_c_ing flag.

    • Phil December 5, 2015, 8:54 am

      LMAO about autos! I thought the same thing! I don’t recall any of the recent shootings in which the perp walked away!

  • SuperG December 2, 2015, 11:48 am

    As soon as Ronald Reagan relaxed the mental health laws in this country, these incidents started to happen. President Obama is not interested in helping American citizens, as he’d return those laws that used to protect us if he did. Denial is a wonderful thing when you’ve got armed guards protecting you 24/7, isn’t it Mr. President? Unfortunately, the average American can’t afford that luxury. We don;t need more gun control, we need better “crazy” control.

    • Larry December 4, 2015, 10:10 am

      I believe what you said. What gets me is that our government is a bunch of bigots. Selling arms to Islamic extremists rebels in Syria and Iraq. Assad’s regime is a mix of Christians and Muslims. A secular army of all ethnics and religion. Our country is fucked.

    • Mark Tercsak December 4, 2015, 12:59 pm

      Nice try about attacking President Reagan on this issue who was shot by a man with mental Health Issues. The fact is the relaxing of Mental Health Laws was started By James Earl Carter, and shutting down of Hospitals and Treatment Programs. I know for me father was a cop then, and they were dealing with a lot of mental patients who were made homeless, the fact is most of the damage done to the system though was not the Federal Government, but the State and Local Governments.

      • Larry December 5, 2015, 11:10 am

        (I’m the other Larry). Right you are. I was a cop back then, when Carter began closing all the mental facilities, putting out on the street with nowhere to go thousands of mentally challenged people who had no skills for street living. It was a terrible thing to see as they were always getting abused by others on the street.
        This was just one more of Carter’s cluster fucks, before Reagan came in & had to clean up crapola from Carter that was scattered all over the fruited plains like cow pies!

    • ted Ramsey December 4, 2015, 2:28 pm

      I was unaware that Pres Reagan relaxed the mental health law regarding guns. Those should be reestablished. That brings up the question of if Pres Obummer is so against mass shootings why hasn’t he done this? The obvious answer is the same that he has demonstrated his entire presidency and that is incompetency. But bringing back those laws would not prevent terrists from acquiring guns. That brings up a different solution; we have to make it unlawful for the general public to own a fully automatic rifle or weapon (I refuse to get caught up in meaningless semantics) that have a large capacity clip. If you need something like that to shoot your deer then you need to spend more time at the range. I am a hunter and have brought down many deer, elk, moose several bear with a single shot. I have a Remington 300 Winchester Magnum. I can cover a 5 shot group with a quarter at 200 yards; yes I spend time at the range.
      You also don’t need a fully automatic rifle for personal defense unless you want to spray your family and everything else in the house with hot lead. They are extremely inaccurate and hard to manage when firing. For personal defense I own a Kinber ultra 45 APC.
      The fully automatic rifle should be outlawed.
      Thanks for reading if you made it all the way to here.
      ted

      • paul December 4, 2015, 4:18 pm

        Ronald Reagan dumped the mentally troubled on the public here in Ca when he was govenor. There was no where for many of them to go and many ended up on the streets. At the same time, he put requirements on “boarding homes” that made it very restrictive to house people. There was no place for many of them and many ended up on the street, living in transient hotels until their monthly ss check ran out. Later, when he was running for president, he jokingly referred to these people as “campers”.

      • Ryan December 4, 2015, 5:03 pm

        Ted, you’re an idiot. The “assault weapons” the politicians and liberals cry to ban is most typically the ar15 which is a semi auto rifle, not a full auto. However automatic weapons aren’t illegal they are extremely expensive and require an extensive amount of ATF paperwork, but they have never been an issue. The ar15 is a sporting rifle, target rifle and yes a hunting rifle.
        As for your claim of not needing 30 round “clips” (the ar takes detachable magazines fyi) that’s your opinion, however in the event someone breaks into my house I want as much ammo available as I can. Most home invasions involve multiple people, therefore I don’t see why the government or anyone else should tell me how many rounds I can use to protect myself. Seeing as how it is a semi auto there is no spraying involved, and your statement about them being hard to handle or extremely inaccurate is total BS. My 7 year old daughter can fire my AR’s accurately and with ease. So if they are so inaccurate and hard to handle you either need to man up and practice of just stay away from the scary rifles.
        Although I don’t use an AR for deer hunting a lot of people do with great results. And just because it has the ability to hold 30 rounds doesn’t mean everyone carries 30 rounds into the woods. Do you carry your 300 in the woods loaded 5+1? Why not just take 1 round since that’s all you need? Oh that’s right, maybe you miss a shot, maybe your first round isn’t a perfect hit and you need a follow up, hell maybe there’s more than 1 deer in the area and you can drop 2 in a single hunt.

      • Bill December 4, 2015, 5:21 pm

        Don’t see your point about fully automatic rifles. Those are already outlawed unless you have a Class III license. Criminals don’t go to the trouble to apply for a Class III license and most don’t go to gun stores to buy their weapons. So outlawing a particular type of weapon will not do any good. None of the rifles used in these incidents were reportedly fully automatic. And guess what….if you outlaw semi-automatic today, next time it will be pump action guns and then bolt action guns and there goes your beloved Remington.

      • Roger December 4, 2015, 6:09 pm

        I do not believe anyone should have a single shot Remington 300 Winchester Magnum. Semi-autos are needed and if you get the permits a full auto should be OK. Obama wants only single shot rifles, shotguns and pistols to remain after his ban.

        • Jesse December 5, 2015, 3:42 am

          I feel the American public should not be outgunned by its government

        • Bill December 6, 2015, 5:02 pm

          It is not about Guns it is about Controling all of us by Disarming us !!! Then “they” have total control !!! The first thing every Dictatorship does is Disarm the Masses so their power cannot be Challenged… We would be Subjects Not Citizens anymore… These Mass staged FGear creating Drills are top get the public ready to give up their guns by creating fear ………. Look what has occurred in Australia Crime has Skyrocketed after “they” got all the Publics firearms and destroyed them . Australians are calling out to not let that happen here… Do not let “them” take your Guns or Your Rights… Your God given Rights to live in peace must be cherished and protected!!!

      • hey December 5, 2015, 12:26 am

        Get it out of your thick liberal skull and understand the 2nd amendment had nothing to do with hunting! DO AMERICA A FAVOR AND STOP WATCHING THE GLOBAL ELITE OWNED MAINSTREAM STREAM MEDIA AND DO YOUR RESEARCH! Your probably to lazy for that though, you need someone to tell you how to think and what to do..Liberal. The second amendment was to defend against tranny in government. Like a government who has threw our future away by wreckless spending and allowing the Federal Reserve to create wildfires in the financial markets so the central banks can buy land, securities, etc. for pennies on the dollar and then resell during inflation periods. Like a administration who does not defend our boarders like trying to smuggle ISIS terrorist to this country while telling Americans there is an effective way to screen refugees without a background and social security number. By allowing scum bags into the streets to influence the next generation of scum bags so they can capitalized on. America incarceration rate is 6 times higher than the second worst country in the world (England). 2006 cen. An average of 33,000 dollars a year is collected per year for prisoner. This country has little capital growth and adding trillions of debt per year on top of the 18 trillion, we are heading down the cliff fast, the writing is on the wall as terrorist sleep cells are waking up while the commander in chief tries to reduce and disarm the civilian population while bringing immigrants ISIS’S home country! Wake up! Use the other part of your brain and stop watching the brain washing biased main stream media, which argumentally be the biggest weapon be used to destroy the country.

      • Mark December 5, 2015, 3:31 am

        I have read your comment regarding Automatic Firearms or, as you termed Fully Automatic Firearms. Apparently you have a limited experience with them.
        In my State it is lawful to obtain and own Fully Automatic Firearms by way of Federal Firearms License or Federal Tax Stamp. A portion of the weapons obtained by citizens are collectibles, like the Thompson Machine Gum. An additional portion of the weapons obtained are modern automatic firearms like the M4 and M16. A percentage are in the hands of Law Enforcement and the other majority of Private Citizens.
        I know of owners of Fully Automatic Firearms in both Law Enforcement and Private Citizen. I have never heard any one of them offer such a colorful depiction of “spray your family and everything else in the house with hot lead”. For that matter, I know of none of them including myself that fire them in their homes. Not mentioning their endearing love for their family and friends. As well as their dedication to obeying the laws, omitting of course their honor, bravery, honesty, integrity, patriotism and self sacrifice.
        Of course most of them would most likely step their foot amidst the horror of such happenings as San Bernardino, placing themselves in harms way to hopefully end the tragedy with the least amount of loss of life and property. Yes, those that say pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
        I suppose that an M16 capable of placing 5 shots under a dime at 100 yards is extremely inaccurate to you. I always felt that it would suffice. Then again there is always room for improvement.
        It could be their love and dedication to their country. Also, their way of life. Maybe it was their Great Grandfathers hand to hand combat with the Japanese in World War II. It could be the tragic stories they finally gleaned as children, from their Great Uncle about a beach in World War I. Whatever the reason, they grew up with the belief that all men are created equal with certain unalienable rights.
        It is true that there are other weapons such as the Spear, Sword and Slingshot. For David had used the latter to kill Goliath.
        While children in Third World Countries are packing Kalashnikovs.
        Lest we forget, the last act of Genocide the United States had taken action against was Russia and Chechnya. An estimated 25,000 killed and 5,000 missing. Pale in comparison to Joseph Stalin with an estimated 7,000,000 casualties due to starvation in the Ukraine or, Adolph Hitler with an estimated 6,000,000 Jewish and 7,000,000 other casualties during the Holocaust.
        Maybe they thought it was to be a free people in a free country living responsibly. For me it culminated in 1987, with a story written in an article in a magazine called Guns & Ammo. On the cover of that magazine were 3 horrid “Assault Weapons” a.k.a the AR15. As many other Americans I had never fired or owned any other weapons than a pump action 22 long rifle, a 20 gauge shotgun and a 270 Winchester bolt action rifle. And yes, I honestly felt at that time that the AR15 was a horrid firearm. Then I read an article filled with facts about firearms, fully automatic firearms and specifically the AR15. The facts were wrapped around what I had come to know and love about firearms which was the sport of shooting. The uses for the AR15 include various types of hunting, target shooting, competitive shooting and for home defense.
        Home defense, lets think about that for a moment. When I was growing up I sat across from my father watching a movie called In Cold Blood. Why after all, Ithaca’s must all be evil, as this was the firearm that was used to commit the atrocities that had been portrayed in this non-fiction movie based on the book written by Truman Capote. To that evening the Ithaca had been revered by me, as this was the firearm that my Father and my Uncle used to hunt Chukar and Quail. And my Great Uncle, the World War I Veteran, lived 45 miles from town with my Great Aunt, alone on a Ranch.
        Hunting, what can you hunt with a .223, certainly not squirrel’s, rabbits, rock chucks, cats, fox or coyotes. For some, hogs and deer.
        Competitive shooting, why would you use an automatic for a DCM match, a 3 Gun competition, or maybe your local NRA shoot.
        Shooting, they are terribly inaccurate, only 5 shots under a dime at a 100, come on.

        Shortly after I read that story I purchased my first AR15 at a Sacramento, California Cal Expo gun show. Shortly after that I sat at a bench shooting a near perfect bull’s-eye with my Colt HBAR with iron sights while others couldn’t hold a group with a 270 or 30-06 and a 3×9 scope. About 2 years later I purchased my M16. This is my preferred weapon to pack when I am out and about by myself.
        There are thousands of scenarios and many additional reasons to own a “Fully Automatic Firearm”. I like to think of freedom as one. Besides I’m not that good with a spear, sword or slingshot.
        I grew up being taught to never point a firearm at anyone. There were no video games where you killed hundreds of people on your television. I learned the consequences of what a single bullet can do by hunting. They are terminal, definitive. I was taught the Ten Commandments. Thou shall not kill.
        We are all deeply hurt by the recent and foregoing happenings. We have a Social and Economic problem in this country that is leading to greater tragedy by our inability to responsibly protect ourselves and one another. And yes, the Crazies.
        It is true that the automatic firearm will provide you with faster follow up shots, and that is just what I am looking for when it comes to protecting myself, my family or any innocent person.
        Also, lets look at the implications, Hillary Clinton and others want an “Assault Weapons Ban”. To this day none of my firearms have assaulted anyone. Statistically, look up the factual figures they do not want you to know about like the graph they show on television where the United States is at the top of the cut-off chart for shootings. In reality 5,000 people are killed each year in Juarez Mexico alone. Funny how many Hispanics live in the United States isn’t it. Maybe they want to get away from shootings themselves. As well as the fact that many of them far surpass me in wages and wealth. Look at the fact that there are millions of AR15’s and variants that have been purchased. Why, economics and capabilities. The AR15 is known as a capable rifle and it can be economically produced. If it were a Thompson Machine Gun it would cost considerably more to produce because of the machining alone. If you research the WEB you will find that the AR15 is the life blood for many companies. Yet, Colt a name synonymous with Quality Firearms, filed for bankruptcy this year. That with other recent happenings should tell you that we are dealing with a fragile economy. Yes, an “Assault Weapons Ban” could be another demise for America like 2008. Another example, Sandy Hook, Adam Lanza’s mother was a school teacher.
        What are you teaching? Why does your Son have access to an AR15 if he has mental problems? Who is responsible? Another Statistical Fact, the shootings are frequently occurring in Schools, Umpqua Community College in Roseburg Oregon, Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton Connecticut, Virginia Tech in Blacksburg Virginia and too many others. Why are we not teaching about firearms safety in schools? Why are we not teaching methods to protect ourselves from becoming victims in our schools? There are records of school shootings going clear back to 1840. Next, one or more persons responsibly carrying a concealed weapon could have averted anyone of these tragedies. Why do many of us not carry concealed? Liability! The fear of retribution from Law Enforcement and the Judicial system! Why do we have to fear protecting ourselves? There are now many known cases of irresponsible actions taken with firearms by Law Enforcement. You can go on almost forever about the injustices in this world. So ask yourself, why do they want your AR15 and exactly who are these Wolves dressed in Sheep’s clothing.
        When and if the time should ever come, I would be proud to serve with the men and women who have supported the Second Amendment by lawfully and responsibly owning “Fully Automatic Firearms”.

      • Disgusted Citizen December 5, 2015, 8:42 pm

        Ok.. Private ownership of fully automatic weapons has been severely restricted since 1934. There is a stringent application process

        “To buy a machine gun under the 1934 NFA, an individual needs to submit the following (the procedure remains unchanged even today):

        Pay a tax of $200, which in 1934 was worth over $3,500
        Fill out a lengthy application to register your gun with the federal government
        Submit photographs
        Submit passport photos
        Get your chief law enforcement official to sign your application
        Wait for the results of your background check to come back
        A violation of the national firearms act results in a felony punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison, a $100,000 fine, and forfeiture of the individual’s right to own or possess firearms in the future.”

        The VAST majority of Modern Sporting Rifles are semi-automatics, pure and simple.
        When the media reports that a criminal used an “automatic weapon”, 99.9999999% of the time they are merely ignorant people writing about something they know nothing about.

        The number of shootings in the US with a MSR are almost insignificant in comparison with the overall total. They have proliferated greatly in the last 2 decades, and the overall use by criminals has not grown anywhere near the rate that the rifles have become available in our country. They are relatively expensive and complicated, which probably accounts for that. Most criminals I ever arrested were NOT scholarly people – most have stomped on too many brain cells with their intoxicant of personal choice.

        The Polemic you have authored is a solution looking for a problem.

        Good day to you.

      • Devin K Noffsinger December 5, 2015, 8:46 pm

        You have been seriously misled. You believe that everyone is referring to fully automatic rifles, when in fact they are referring to semi-automatic rifles. The semi-automatic rifle is what they are seeking to ban.

      • Jim mccoy December 6, 2015, 8:07 am

        Ted, for a person who talks like your a gun owner and regular shooter you are sorely misinformed. Fully automatic weapons have been banned to the general public since 1934, your refusal to get “caught up in semantics” is meaningless since your ignorance on the topic is so blatant.

      • Garrett F December 7, 2015, 7:37 pm

        Ted, Ted, Ted.
        You are apparently unaware that since you can shoot such a tight group with your Remington you are obviously using a “sniper rifle” which no law abiding citizen needs.
        You must be one of those “one shot, one kill” whackjobs.
        Remember, Michael Moore says snipers are cowards.
        See how that works?
        Pointing antigun zealots towards others won’t buy you any safety.

      • dbhm25 December 10, 2015, 8:49 am

        The fully auto weapon should NOT be outlawed! The simplest fact of the matter is that anyone who would spend the money on one would also have other means of protection. They also would have the intelligence and reason to not pick it up to “defend the family”. You simply don’t spray and pray when you may have loved ones in the area of effect.

        Also, laws are not preventing “terrorists” from bringing any type of firearm into a “gun-free zone”. It really doesn’t matter what other laws are placed on the books. Violent people WILL find ways to commit violent acts. The laws simply remove a means of self-defense from those that follow the laws.

    • rabrooks December 5, 2015, 11:08 pm

      AS soon as Reagan relaxed the mental health laws, the real nuts started running for office…….

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