Obama’s Parting Shot to Gun Industry: Banning Lead Ammo on Federal Grounds

President Obama at his farewell address in Chicago earlier this month. (Photo: WhiteHouse.gov)

President Obama is the single greatest gun salesmen in the history of this country. Gun stores everywhere should send him a thank-you card. His executive attacks on gun owners (a.k.a. “executive orders”) spurred historic firearms sales in each year of his presidency.

But as with most politicians, he didn’t learn a thing.

His final gun-related action as President sought to ban traditional lead ammo on federal grounds and waterways. The order is ostensibly aimed at protecting birds, animals and fish from lead poisoning, but the science is far from conclusive.

“This directive is irresponsible and driven not out of sound science but unchecked politics,” said Lawrence Keane, senior vice president and general counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

“The timing alone is suspect. This directive was published without dialogue with industry, sportsmen and conservationists. The next director should immediately rescind this, and instead create policy based upon scientific evidence of population impacts with regard to the use of traditional ammunition.”

Lead ammo is generally cheaper than other kinds of ammunition, so the former President’s ban would put an extra economic burden on hunters looking to provide for their families.

The order is also a classic example of government overreach, as state agencies have traditionally managed the use of lead ammunition on their lands and waterways.

The Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, a group that represents state conservationists, released a statement criticizing the President’s move.

Association President Nick Wiley said that the action “flies squarely in the face of a long and constructive tradition of states working in partnership with the service to effectively manage fish and wildlife resources.”

Wiley called the order “unacceptable federal overreach,” adding, “the Association views this Order as a breach of trust and deeply disappointing given that it was a complete surprise and there was no current dialogue or input from state fish and wildlife agencies prior to issuance.”

The National Rifle Association also chimed in, saying the order “will hopefully amount to little more than a symbolic act of defiance by a president with little of substance to show for his eight years in office.”

The NRA’s hopes are well-founded as the Trump administration can easily repeal Obama’s final attack on gun owners with a new executive order.

Trump has yet to comment on the ban, but, given his staunch support of gun rights during the campaign, hunters and sportsmen have cause to be optimistic.

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  • Cecil January 30, 2017, 10:41 pm

    Along with the light bulb crap, release of 200 “Low Level” drug dealers that never hurt anyone? So glad that bush ape is gone and won’t care if I never hear his name mentioned again.

  • Mike January 30, 2017, 10:18 am

    I have been an avid hunter for the last 13 years and I am fully in support of banning lead ammunition…perhaps not solid bullets, but for hunting purposes it also has merit. I’m 24, and used lead for all but the last 5 years. We all know lead is toxic to humans and wildlife, no question there. So I got to thinking…why is everybody using lead shot on game they are eating, particularly small game? There are inevitably small pieces of lead that break off upon impact and remain in the meat, and studies have proven this (assuming you don’t believe all research /science is evil). Not to mention all the animals that are wounded with only a pellet or 2 of lead! The same case can be made for big game- small fragments can be spread to areas far away from the point of impact. Again, not to mention that probably 5-10+% of big game (deer, in particular since I live in Ohio) shot is wounded and loves with lead in its system until it either dies from infection or lead poisoning-further damaging animals down the food chain. Sadly, I say this because I generally spend half of my hunting season tracking wounded game that I didn’t shoot. So how in the world would it hut hunters to use non toxic shot on game animals and only take ethical shots (only take ethical shots, that’s a long shot…)? Then there is still the lead runoff issue…there is no doubt that areas near shotgun sports courses are degraded, there are literally tens of thousands of pounds of lead sitting on the surface, for water to flow over it. (I know, I know lead comes from the ground- so does arsenic, mercury, uranium, and many other toxic substances- it doesn’t mean that there is no difference between elements/compounds in their naturally occurring state and being removed and processed). Trust me, I’m all for gun rights, but I also have to go with common sense. But go ahead and call me names and spew your ignorance, I wouldn’t expect anything more.

    • Henry February 5, 2017, 2:00 pm

      Son, I am 56 years young and I full well believe you are simply to young to understand the ramifications involved with what you suggest. Banning lead ammunition goes further than you imagine. Simply put it is not only a bad idea but it is one that the left has been pushing for a long time. On December 23, 2013 due mainly to pressure from an out of control EPA The last remaining lead smelter in the U.S., in Herculaneum MO closed its doors. Do not think that this has not affected the ammunition industry or the Battery industry for that matter. Lead Acid Batteries have more than doubled in price since then.

  • Barkus Rudis January 28, 2017, 11:24 am

    I fully support just about everything but lead bullets. Cigarette cancer research is not conclusive, but we see the consequences. Same with lead, we see what it does to humans if ingested. It should not have been Obama to rules as above. The NRA should have been behind this ban. IMHO.

    • Kevin January 28, 2017, 12:07 pm

      You are almost right….about almost nothing: Actually lung cancer research indicates a direct link to cigarette smoke. However, you are correct in saying that no one should eat lead bullets.

    • Shawn McManus January 28, 2017, 2:54 pm

      Then why not just ban the use of lead when hunting?

    • Tom Horn January 29, 2017, 8:35 am

      Yeah, and let’s ban automobiles/trucks/snowmobiles/ATV’s from federal land, as they all produce well documented pollution harmful to wildlife/environment. Mountain bikes and horses, too (erosion). Might as well ban humans, as they put off carbon dioxide, a cause of, ‘greenhouse gas/global warming,’ and produce other harmful waste products. Let’s all go hug a tree (figuratively, not literally, as you may pass microbes/parasites on to the tree, and compact the soil around its roots).

      Or, we could do a scientific study to see if the lead still in use by sportsmen (no longer used by waterfowlers), is causing any/enough detriment to the environment, to outweigh the benefits to humans using it on federal land.

      • Tom Horn January 29, 2017, 10:28 am

        God knows we pay enough through the Pittman-Robertson Act (11% on firearms, ammunition, and other sporting goods) to fund a study on the matter, instead of more knee-jerk politics.

  • John Kinas January 27, 2017, 8:08 pm

    As any waterfowler knows, lead shot has been illegal for migratory waterfowl, nation-wide, since the early 80s, and for good reason. The science behind the 1983 lead shot ban and the wider lead shot ban imposed by the outgoing Obama administration is irrefutable, and the federal government’s authority to regulate hunting on federally-owned lands and of migratory birds is established law. You may not like it, but facts are facts.

    • Kb31416 January 28, 2017, 9:39 am

      My bravo sierra detector just went off, and it is reading off scale.

    • Tom Horn January 28, 2017, 9:57 am

      The science behind lead shot’s harm to waterfowl and migratory birds is well documented (they ingest it from the bottom of waterways). Whether, or not a lead slug from my shotgun is harmful to any animal other than the deer I shoot, or if the lead .22 LR bullet I shoot at a squirrel is being picked up and poisoning other animals is far from an established fact. I therefore do not find the article misleading, as others contend.

  • John J Morley January 27, 2017, 7:09 pm

    I think copper is the new lead. I use COLT copper ammo and it works fine in my handguns. Shotguns & hunting needs research, I admit. I could & do use steel shot there. I do hate to see poisoned by lead shot sick and dying birds, in public waterways. Lead shot is not worth it, to me, if it leads to this.

    • Kb31416 January 28, 2017, 9:41 am

      Bull-oney

    • Shawn McManus January 28, 2017, 2:55 pm

      Guess we’ll just have to stick with depleted uranium.

    • Mongo January 28, 2017, 4:40 pm

      You are not likely to shoot as much lead from a hunting rifle as is found in 5 shotgun shells. This is just obunghole being just that, a bunghole. Unless you find as much harm to the forest critters from lead as found with waterfowl, then this point is stupid, stupid. He was just being an ass.

  • GDM January 27, 2017, 6:03 pm

    The best thing about the egomaniac Ovomit is that nearly everything the asshole did can be erased by our new and REAL POTUS. A twitter campaign asking President Trump to erase Ovomits illegal ban should do the trick.

  • JOHN T. FOX January 27, 2017, 3:52 pm

    NEWSFLASH LEAD COMES FROM THE ENVIRONMENT TO START WITH! LEAD IS MOST EFFECTIVE AT KILLING CRITTERS AND DOESN’T WEAR OUT THE GUN BRLS QUICKLY. LEAD IS EASY TO SHAPE AND MOLD FOR AMMO. LEAD WORKS! IF IT AIN’T BROKE DON’T TRY TO FIX IT! UNDO THIS INSANITY FROM THE OSOMA OBAMA REIGN OF TYRANNY!

  • Chauvin Emmons January 27, 2017, 3:01 pm

    So next time some friend spouts there really a good person if you got to know them.
    How will you respond to this time honed dribble???
    What about your “friend”?
    Seriously time to make the Libs Public enemy #1 and make it the threat to national security that it Is and always has been.
    The Left is and always will be a threat to freedom and security the Right is just as dangerous dont let Trump go to your head.
    He is a Yankee just like Romney and McShame.
    Ultimately he will not uphold your rights it’s about business, yes I am probably wrong but lets not get to assured of victory yet Trump surrounded him self with frankly Bushies and the Establishment policy writers with out going Criminal like OBIMBO with the Executive Orders Trump can bluster all he wants the Policy Is being written by the same Criminals that wrote the last EO’s Or did he fire ALL the bureaucrats while I slept.
    McShame and McConnell-Chow and Elaine Chow-McConnell are talking opposite of Trump while Trump is speaking or did I misunderstand what is this day 7 for all who do not pay attention this is not any of these life long Government Servants, Establishment stalwarts First Day.
    were talking like a couple million Government Employees that depend on status quo against Trump If he was Perfect in everything he ever did or may do?
    Bolstered by Seditious Media and the 5%’ers that are dependable malcontents of the first order to find a waiting TV Camera.
    This is the time to really pay attention or while your still celebrating Judas might kiss you.

  • Tommy Barrios January 27, 2017, 2:01 pm

    That is so indicative of an IGNORANT ARROGANT Half-White Trash Communist Progressive Libtard AZZHOLE and is RIDICULOUS!
    That POS instruction like all the other Obomination Trash instructions, will not stand and will be reversed just like all the other Ghetto Trash Executive Orders that Half-White Ghetto Trash has instituted!

    • RBB January 27, 2017, 6:56 pm

      You forgot “Antichrist”!
      The most accurate (and my favorite) description for the second coming of Mohammad.

  • Russell Levian January 27, 2017, 1:31 pm

    He’s such a MUSLIM!!!!!!!!

  • Sam January 27, 2017, 1:26 pm

    It is too much to ask that a President give up power ‘rightfully’ stolen, and only issue Executive Orders as authorized by the Constitution. However, at least they (the Orders) should expire along with the Presidents term. That would give our elected representatives time to weigh the merits of each case, and propose laws to support the common good.

  • Campbell A King January 27, 2017, 1:11 pm

    Hillarious rumored to be a man > Where you get that ? She is well known to be a man ~

  • max hoyle January 27, 2017, 12:47 pm

    This sorry son of a bitch! I thought that we eould never see a president worse than bill clinton but here we are! No wonder his wife is rumored to be a man!

  • jimonthebeach January 27, 2017, 12:11 pm

    Obama’s sop to environmental wackos will be discarded as soon as President Trump gets wind of it along with the rest of Obama’s ill thought out legacy agenda.

  • Kurt Heinlein January 27, 2017, 11:55 am

    Just add this to the bazillion of odumbo’s executive orders Trump needs to use his pen to erase.

  • MuddyEye January 27, 2017, 11:15 am

    Nothing mentioned about the ban on lead wheel weights for cars.
    Also of note, the US. Forest Service operates a number of 100yd shooting ranges
    that are free to the public.

    • Sam January 27, 2017, 1:35 pm

      Not this time. A bureaucratic edict was made a few years ago to ‘protect the children’ from lead poisoning. It was so poorly worded and so all encompassing that lead weights of ALL kinds were banned anywhere a child (not clearly defined) might be exposed. Go fish.

  • Gene January 27, 2017, 10:56 am

    There will be ten times the number of birds killed by wind mills than by lead shot this year.

  • Dan January 27, 2017, 10:32 am

    Where does these idiots think all that lead comes from in the first place? I hope Trump guts USF&G !

  • Fedupaj January 27, 2017, 10:22 am

    I hope President Trump is able to erase every stupid thing that Obama did to the point that the Obama 8 years are just a bad memory. Obama was the most incompetent vindictive and lazy president in US history and the only lesson the people should take from his 8 years is never ever make that mistake again. Let’s see if he and Moochell take their multi-million dollar vacations on their own dime.—leeches.

  • DPlatt January 27, 2017, 10:18 am
  • Bigcountry January 27, 2017, 9:48 am

    As much as I hate federal overreach, this article is very misleading. The new directive was issued by the director of the fish and wildlife service and only applies to lands they directly control. So this does not apply to BLM, national parks or national forest. This only applies to national wildlife refuges and it may eventually lead to the requirement to use non toxic shot to hunt doves and other migratory game birds that the Feds control. This is not a ban on lead ammo nationwide or in any state. While it is still an asinine rule it is also a disservice to make it out to be this huge sweeping ban on lead ammo in the United States.

    • Ed January 27, 2017, 10:13 am

      Thank you for the clarification. I have seen a headline similar to this one, read the associated article, and was unclear of the breadth of the prohibition. I appreciate the analysis.

    • GuruOfGuns January 27, 2017, 3:50 pm

      So the cut is not as deep as the writer thought, that doesn’t make it a good thing. The basic idea of banning lead ammo has been a goal of the anti’s for many years, if they can’t outright ban guns they will inconvenience us in any way possible. We gave them the lead ban on waterfowl which is the only part of their lead banning scheme that has any real evidence and even it neglects the fact that most lead shot used on ducks and geese is copper or nickel plated. I’m sure they can come up with a study showing copper is bad to eat. They keep insisting that shooting lead bullets is bad for the environment, when they can’t prove their contention that it pollutes ground water they say animals will eat it. We can’t give them an inch they just use any tiny victory to build on. Never forget that liberals aren’t concerned with facts only feelings and they are masters at manipulating feelings, doesn’t hurt that they have the entertainment industry and most of mainstream media doing it for them. They want lead ammo universally banned, that is their goal, they will use lies to reach their goals..the end justifies the means in their world, we have to stop them.

      • 2Bornot2B2A January 31, 2017, 4:51 am

        “Never forget that liberals aren’t concerned with facts only feelings and they are masters at manipulating feelings”
        hence Mr. Schumer’s (Schmuck’s) “fake tears”.

  • Steve January 27, 2017, 9:26 am

    If Trump doesn’t recind the order, then we know where he really stands

    • callmeBob January 27, 2017, 10:32 am

      We all know where trump stands, and his stand is great!
      I am fully against the ban on lead ammunition; however, I doubt that addressing this matter is in the ‘top 200’ matters that President Trump currently has on his agenda.

  • TimothyJ999 January 27, 2017, 9:17 am

    It wasn’t Obama that was great for gun sales. It was the over the top panic mongering of the gun press that did it. The second he was elected he was “coming to take our guns”, and for 8 years the panic and conspiracy theories never let up (anyone want to admit they were delusional about Jade Helm, for example? How about DHS buying 10 billion rounds of 9mm?).

    The gun press and manufacturers played you guys like fish on a line for 8 years, and panicked you into buying tens of millions of guns and billions of rounds at inflated prices spurred by shortages caused by that same panic (and by some smart hoarding by manufacturers). Now Obama’s gone and you’re STILL at it. Will you never learn?

    • callmeBob January 27, 2017, 10:39 am

      @tim
      Jade Helm, You’ve got a strong point, but 41,666 rounds per employee at DHS is a little concerning.
      You’re obviously a bahamanite, where is your shame?
      Will you never learn?

    • James January 27, 2017, 11:58 am

      The gun press did not have to make any of it up. If anyone wanted to know where Obama stood on gun control and the 2nd Amendment, all they had to do was listen to what he has said, watch who he associated himself with and look at what he tried to do with executive orders when he could not get what he wanted. No proposal he ever made, no statement he ever made nor any action he ever took was pro gun…..always these things were designed to prohibit or restrict the 2nd Amendment. If he could have banned and confiscated firearms, he would have. But he could not because of the members of the National Rifle Association and every other freedom loving group of Americans who stood together and denied Obama the victory of achieving his very real agenda against firearm ownership.

      • TimothyJ999 January 27, 2017, 1:34 pm

        Yeah well: for the first SEVEN YEARS of his administration he signed a grand total of ONE firearms-related bill: the one that made it legal to carry in national parks. That was it, until the 2016 set of orders around background checks. There were no attempted gun grabs bravely fought off by freedom loving NRA members–that’s another exaggeration.
        Look, I like my guns as much as the next guy. But the level of fear and hysteria generated because of a centrist corporate Democrat in the oval office was ridiculous. If you can’t see that what was driving that fear came from the gun and ammo manufacturers to drive sales, it’s because you just don’t want to.

        • Kb31416 January 28, 2017, 9:47 am

          “..centrist corporate democrat…”?!!
          What alternate universe do you live in? Obozo is an f-ing communist!

    • Brandon January 27, 2017, 1:14 pm

      Although I do agree with some of what you say, you seem to be forgetting some major points:
      *Dianne Feinstein introduced a new assault weapon ban S. 150, supported by Obama, after the Sandy Hook shooting. It would have illegalized many different guns and high capacity magazines . Dianne Feinstein had been quoted in the past saying, “If I could go to Mr. America, Mrs. America, and say, hand over your guns, I want all of your guns, I would do it.” Sure, they don’t want to take your guns.
      *The ATF moved to ban M855 ammunition, but decided against it after the amount of backlash the public showed.
      *H.R. 4269 2015 version of the assault weapons ban where they once again tried to ban SOOOOOOO many different firearms. A ridiculously long list.

      You can’t tell me that there wasn’t a large number of politicians trying to “get our guns”. The only thing that stopped them was the majority of Americans that were against it. It was no conspiracy theory Sir.

  • Alan January 27, 2017, 9:08 am

    A lot of you are missing the point of this article. Sure, lead is an issue, especially around waterways and areas of hunter concentration.
    But this is about big game AMMO!
    In short, hunters in remote areas must comply just as waterfowl hunters.
    That’s just stupid. There is NO need for this regulation in the high Rockies or remote Sierra Nevada or the Adirondack or Georgia 0r Texas. The displaced nature of these areas make ingestion of a stray hunting bullet astronomical.
    And if you don’t see that this IS a slap in the face by that man, you haven’t been paying attention.
    And if you’re not sure, ask yourself “Why now”?????

  • Joe January 27, 2017, 9:06 am

    Lead ain’t good fer ya.
    An iffin ya don’t believe me jus ax one of dem dead does an dux, an all does other dead stuff kilt wit lead.
    Oh yeah, an it makes ya stoopid two.

  • Sickoflibrardsandsnowflakes January 27, 2017, 9:03 am

    Looks like the left got to this article and vommited their baseless opinion once again . Lead comes right out of the ground morons. Its not good for humans but humans arent ingesting it unless you live in flynt, mi. My hope is that all the libtards go to their Dr and get scripts of Prozac stay home and watch reruns of seseme street. you might learn something

  • GuruOfGuns January 27, 2017, 8:59 am

    Banning lead ammo on federal lands makes as much sense as banning pissing in the Gulf of Mexico. As always the anti forces are playing loose with the facts. I heard all these same arguments when I was sued for building a shooting range that had a DRY creek bed UPGRANGE or behind the impact area for those who don’t shoot. According to their “experts” I would pollute the ground water. I won in the end but they did manage to cost me some money and aggravation which they were happy to do. Lead poising is real but the anti’s are going to extremes and exaggerating “facts” in hysterical ways as they seem to do on every issue.

  • B. L. Brooks January 27, 2017, 8:59 am

    I wish the media and others would stop calling Obama “Barry”. I’,m pretty tired of it. It isn’t his name, but an alias that he chose. Call him by his rightful & legal (if we even know his legal birth name) name, Barack, Obama, or even the imposter in chief or head traitor, or federal inmate #1 (wishful thinking).

    • VA mtn Man January 27, 2017, 9:27 am

      You forgot the Hussein in the middle. I always felt it explained volumes about the man’s ass kissing of and bowing to Muslims.

    • Ed January 27, 2017, 10:18 am

      For clarity only, not argumentation, Mr. Obama was adopted by his mother’s second husband when Mr. Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia. Once there, Mr. Obama was enrolled as an Indonesian student under the name of Barry Sotero, the name he used until he returned to Hawaii. As I understand, Mr. Obama has two sets of names, one of them from his Indonesian citizenship.

      • JoeUSooner January 27, 2017, 11:51 am

        Further, Barry IS indeed still his real name. [Indonesia does not – and never has – recognized “dual citizenship.” Barry’s mother was forced to officially (in writing) renounced her son”s American citizenship and claim Indonesian citizenship in order for her son to attend school and in Jakarta.]

        When Barry returned to the US in 1973, there was NO effort made (by anyone… his mother, his grandparents, nor himself) to return his citizenship status to the US. In fact, Barry attended college – and borrowed tuition money in that name! – as an Indonesian immigrant. He only reverted to using the Obama name for expedience when he entered politics.

      • Arturo January 27, 2017, 1:09 pm

        Excellent point, one of MANY you’re sh*ting me facts. Now, excuse me while I projectile vomit in disgust.

    • RetNavet January 27, 2017, 11:51 am

      Truth be it known, he is Frank Marshall Davis Jr…..that name was just never entered on his birth certificate. Instead an alcoholic foreign exchange student from Kenya was hoodwinked into being the useful idiot..of course it was not too hard as B. Hussein Obongoloid’s mother was a slut who dropped panties and jumped on any stick with enough melanin to meet her requirement of non-white

  • Tom January 27, 2017, 8:47 am

    Now I guess our taxes will go up again to pay for 2 billion more rounds of copper HP bullets for our military, TSA, DHS, FBI, IRS, Postal Service, and such..

  • BigC January 27, 2017, 7:51 am

    Barry is nothing but a bad memory now! If he REALLY gave a damn about “birds”, he would’ve outlawed those hideous wind turbines, that ugly-up the country and kill thousands of birds yearly, many of them protected raptors! He doesn’t give a damn about wildlife, he merely wants to flaunt his power on insignificant issues, to give the impression to his sycophantic followers he is being “presidential” and they buy it , hook, line and sinker, non-lead of course!!!

    • Phred January 27, 2017, 10:56 am

      You nailed it !! Dead on !

  • David Updegraff Strawn January 27, 2017, 7:51 am

    You’re wrong on this one. Lead is an element, and does not decompose. Oxides may form on its surface, but it lasts longer than you’d care to know. If someone pulls a Cheney, and you get some shot embedded in muscle or gut, hope that it is steel or the non-lead shot. I know you have heard of lead poisoning. We operate quail and Osceola wild turkey gobbler hunts. No lead is allowed, and we provide steel if someone mistakenly brings lead shot.

    • Fleghorn January 27, 2017, 9:34 am

      Really… three names? Not one or two but three? Yes as a Geologist I can confirm and agree that lead is an element, that there is mass ingestion by wild fowl (unless waterbirds in a lake) is ludicrous. So David Upde… Strawn where is the evidence and study? I’m sure the Obama EPA would have thrown several million dollars in Grant money to prove your allegation but buried it when the result come back stating – No significant impact. Unless of course you alter the findings and science… kind of like Climate Change eh?

  • KARL BAUSHA January 27, 2017, 7:33 am

    You people are completely short sighted once again. I live in New Hampshire and have seen the effects of lead shot on waterfowl first hand. The banning of lead fishing weights was also a step in curbing deaths by waterfowl and birds of pray and studies in our state show the positive effects
    As with our current president the spreading of incorrect/mis information should stop, the protection of environment only benefits us all for the future and just make sense.
    Wake up!!!

    • Mike Stuhr January 27, 2017, 7:53 am

      Lead fishing weights? Just how saturated is your area with lead fishing weights?
      What misinformation is our current president spreading and why is it OK for our last president to have gotten away with it at the level that he did
      You lost, America is on to you and people like you and won’t stand for it any longer.
      Too bad.

    • Frank January 27, 2017, 8:48 am

      If you are truly upset about things in the US, do something meaningful and leave the country… and take as many of your friends with you. I’m sure you could raise $$ for this on the internet.

    • John Whelan January 27, 2017, 8:48 am

      I also live In NH, banning lead sinkers and shot gun pellets is one thing, but banning lead bullets is going over board no one hunts birds with bullets, most lead bullets are shot at indoor ranges and recycled. I am for protecting animals and such but there is also a thing I call go way over board and this is one such law. People making these laws have to use a little common sense before passing them

    • Frank January 27, 2017, 9:40 am

      I doubt you saw the effects of lead on waterfowl as lead shot for hunting them has been banned for over 20 years now!!

    • Rex January 27, 2017, 10:36 am

      Rubbish Karl. Did you read that lead fishing weight/sinker tall tale in a Sierra Club propaganda pamphlet? It would take thousands of tons of lead in a waterway to affect the bird and fish population.

  • Mike January 27, 2017, 7:29 am

    Can the military shoot lead ammo on federal property like a military base?

  • Gingerbaker January 27, 2017, 7:27 am

    gosh, what a lot of harrumphing and furious word-hole exercise.

    Are you – or the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies – actually arguing that lead shot or lead tackle SHOULD be used in Federal wildlife waterways? Are you contesting the science of lead poisoning, or the wisdom of banning lead shot?

    No??!?

    Then what is the f’ing problem? Maybe, if you HAD an actual f’ing problem, you all might have mentioned the f’ing problem in your f’ing article.

    • Mike Stuhr January 27, 2017, 7:59 am

      It’s not about the wildlife or the environment. Like you, the people behind these things are severely anti gun and every little thing they can do for any number of reasons that you don’t mention they will.
      If I had a dollar for every duck killed by fishing weights I could buy a cheap watch.
      Science? That’s funny!
      .

  • Daniel Kane January 27, 2017, 7:10 am

    The last act of a the worst POTUS ever…Good riddance

    • Rayman January 27, 2017, 7:50 am

      Lead kills animals and humans. Think Flint Michigan. There are just as many quality options for shooting. The scorched earth is a dead end game

      • Frank January 27, 2017, 8:59 am

        How many people in Flint died from lead?

        • T January 27, 2017, 1:49 pm

          Not from lead in pipes anyway.

  • Paul January 27, 2017, 6:54 am

    Screw Obama. I sincerely hope that our new President suggests our DOJ looks into the many scandals surrounding this Obama Presidency. He had about as much respect for the law as John Dillinger. For the damage he has done to our great nation, he should be given a Federal indictment for abuse of power.

  • RetNavet January 27, 2017, 6:51 am

    Reasons I’m glad I’m not Barry Hussein Obongoloid:
    1. Having to look in the mirror at those purple lips and jug-ears
    2. Having to wake up next to a cross between a silver-back gorilla and a star wars wookie
    3. Knowing that only the brain dead and mentally insane love me.
    4. Knowing I beat out Jimmy Carter for worst President ever
    5. Knowing my dad was really the card-carrying communist Frank M. Davis
    6. Knowing I played more golf than any other President and I still suck at it.
    7. Forever wondering if the Secret Service really will take a bullet for me…or NOT
    8. Knowing my mother was an anti-American slut who fornicated with Frank M. Davis….and so many others
    9. Not being able to slip the Secret Service on my dates with Chelsea Manning
    10. Looking really gay in “mom-jeans”

    • Gingerbaker January 27, 2017, 7:29 am

      Anyone ever tell you you are a truly ugly racist, retnavet? Let me be the first.

      • RetNavet January 27, 2017, 8:14 am

        Actually Gingerbutt-Snowflake, I’m incredibly handsome and haven’t a racist bone in my body….absolutely nothing in my comment that has even “a smidgen” of racism, simply irrefutable observations

      • PoorLiberals! January 27, 2017, 9:04 am

        Hahaha! You just called someone a racist for stating their opinion. Can we just be over that already? Haven’t you had enough time to cry out your feelings yet?

        • Sam January 27, 2017, 1:51 pm

          Ha, ha. Racist, misogynist, and homophobe.

    • T January 27, 2017, 1:59 pm

      I’m laughin’ so hard. Please, please, please let him have to answer to that. Inquiring minds want to know. Did daddy davis ever publish those fine photo’s? Now you can get DNA testing very easily, know when somebody lifts their leg in Siberia at the speed of light. And yet we nothing of the life story of the fake genius that just left – Hmmmm?

      • T January 27, 2017, 2:02 pm

        That should be we “know” nothing

    • Keith B. January 27, 2017, 5:23 pm

      @Retnavet…. You don’t have a hair on your ass if you don’t have the Balls to post this racist Neo-Nazi crap under your real name. While you’re at it…post your home address……I F***ING DARE YOU….FRIGGIN COWARD…

  • MAS January 27, 2017, 6:46 am

    Can’t we just reverse and nullify everything the poseur bho ever did – back to kindergarten or so?

  • Steve January 27, 2017, 5:50 am

    Where I live we have several thousand acres of Public Hunting land on Corp of Engineers land.
    That would be a bitch to not be able to use lead ammo.
    He screwed us agian by shutting down the last lead mine in Missouri, it would be too expensive to upgrade their equipment to federal standards.
    Fellows/Gals I just don’t know!

  • Joseph A.Eppolito, Sr. January 27, 2017, 5:14 am

    Destroy our Schools, Families, Christanity, Our Gov’t, Our Constitution, Our Individual oder given RIGHTS, and this UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ILLEGAL, IMPOSTOR of 8 years has broken more LAWS than any Criminal on record has VIOLATED OUR 2nd Amendment !!!.Not to mention the increase in the ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACKS ON AMERICANS under his protection. When President Trump does half of what he promised he will be the GREATEST PRESIDENT in U.S. history.

  • Will Drider January 24, 2017, 11:11 pm

    I’ll follow that lead ammo ban just like obama followed the immigration laws : NOT!

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