CZ Scorpion – Now in Carbine – EVO 3 S1 9mm – Full Test

Authors Jon Hodoway Uncategorized
the new Scorpion EVO 3 Carbine from CZ-USA brings 9mm firepower in a compact, handy and fun-to-shoot package.

The new Scorpion EVO 3 Carbine from CZ-USA brings 9mm firepower in a compact, handy and fun-to-shoot package.

For more information, visit https://cz-usa.com/.

To buy a CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1 Carbine on GunsAmerica.com, click this link: https://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.aspx?T=CZ%20Scorpion.

Ceska Zbrojovka a.s. Uhersky Brod (CZUB) of the Czech Republic has been in the firearms business since 1936, making just about every kind of gun imaginable. They began importing guns through normal channels in the US in 1991. In 1997, CZ established a US subsidiary that is currently based in Kansas City, Kansas. Through this subsidiary, CZ-USA, they import, manufacture, distribute and service their entire line of firearms, which includes the iconic American Dan Wesson revolvers and 1911 handguns.

CZ recently began shaking the market up with several introductions; first came the Scorpion EVO pistol and the Bren pistol. They have now added the CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1 Carbine. The Scorpion Carbine is a 9mm. blowback semi-auto polymer fun machine. The Scorpion takes its name from the Škorpion vz. 61 personal defense weapon developed in the late 1950s.

History

cz-vz-61-skorpion copyA little history is required in order to understand the origins of this pistol-caliber carbine. The Škorpion was developed in the late 1950s by Miroslav Rybář. His design was finalized and accepted by the Czechoslovakian security forces, and later by the Army, in 1961. The intended users of this .32 ACP gun were security forces that needed to maintain a low profile. The Škorpion was designed as a select-fire, blowback-operated machine pistol that can be fired from a closed bolt. To keep the gun compact, it was fitted with a telescopic bolt assembly that actually wraps around the barrel. The rate of fire of a typical blowback machine gun is typically controlled by increasing the mass of the bolt, slowing down the cycle rate. With the design of this bolt, it was not feasible to simply add more mass to the bolt. This resulted in a rate of fire north of 1,000 rounds per minute. This proved to make the gun fairly uncontrollable on full-auto fire, even with the over-folding wire buttstock extended. In an attempt to counteract this, a recoil-reducing device was installed in the wooden pistol grip, which reduced the rate of fire to a relatively controllable 850 rounds per minute.

The model tested came with the factory-equipped false suppressor option made by SilencerCo.

The model tested came with the factory-equipped false suppressor option made by SilencerCo.

SPECS

  • Chambering: 9mm
  • Barrel: 16.2 inches
  • OA Length: 34.75 inches
  • Weight: 6.1 pounds
  • Stock: Folding, collapsing
  • Sights: Adjustable rear, post front
  • Action: Straight blowback
  • Finish: Matte black
  • Capacity: 20+1
  • MSRP: $1,049

Unboxing

The SilencerCo false suppressor covers the 16.25-inch barrel of the carbine and just looks cool.

The SilencerCo false suppressor covers the 16.2-inch barrel of the carbine and just looks cool.

The new Scorpion Carbine is available in two variants: Both are 9mm and feature a 16.2-inch barrel. One model has a compensating muzzle brake. The model I received has a faux suppressor built by SilencerCo. Both models come equipped with a folding adjustable stock and a forearm that is large enough to accept an actual suppressor without modification, should you choose to add one. The top of the gun has a full-length Picatinny rail fitted from the factory, with a fully adjustable set of aluminum sights. The rear sight features a ghost ring with four different apertures, and the front post can be adjusted by screwing the sight up or down. I was able to easily mount a red dot optic within the abundant available space between the sights. The gun comes equipped with ambidextrous fire controls (10 bonus points!) and a magazine release. The magazine release is located on the rear of the magazine well. The charging handle is almost an exact copy of the HK MP5’s. It does not reciprocate and has a locking position that is engaged by pulling the handle all the way to the rear and rotating it upward into a notch in the forearm. Unlike the MP5, the Scorpion’s bolt locks open on the last round and is released by a downward-activated control on the left side of the receiver. If you’ve chosen to lock the bolt handle in the upper position, the bolt release will not send the bolt forward. I did not find this to be a problem, but some users may find it redundant.

The 20-round, translucent magazine of the Evo 3 is a double-row, double-feed design.

The 20-round, translucent magazine of the EVO 3 is a double-row, double-feed design.

The gun was shipped with two 20-round magazines that were a translucent smoke color, enabling you to see the rounds loaded into them. They were of a double-stack, double-feed design. A quick search of the internet shows that 30-round magazines are readily available from multiple sources.

The gun weighed in unloaded at 6.1 pounds, and fully extended it was 34¾ inches in length. The length of pull is adjustable for user preference. The stock has a single button on the left side that allows it to fold to the right, and is retained by a magnet embedded in the right rear of the stock. This I found to be quite ingenious and effective, in both retaining the stock folded and allowing quick deployment of the stock. There are four sling attachment points: two forward of the mag well on either side of the rifle, and two at the rear of the receiver just forward of the folding collapsible stock.

The gun is field-stripped by first locking the charging handle in the rear upward notch. The captive pin is pushed out of the lower front of the lower receiver, allowing the trigger pack to be completely removed from the gun. The gun is then positioned upside-down. The bolt can be slid out of the gun as an assembly by pushing the bolt slightly to the rear with your finger and then, as you begin to let it go forward, simply applying some upward pressure. This elegantly simple and straightforward process takes less than a minute to complete, and the gun is completely field-stripped and ready to be cleaned. Reassembly was not awkward; reinserting the bolt and the trigger pack was as simple as removing them had been.

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The trigger pack of the carbine can be quickly and easily removed for cleaning and maintenance.

The trigger pack of the carbine can be quickly and easily removed for cleaning and maintenance.

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The Evo 3 S1 Carbine employs a simple straight-blowback system of operation.

The EVO 3 S1 Carbine employs a simple straight-blowback system of operation.

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On the Range

Once I arrived at the range, I loaded the two magazines full up… and then realized that I had inserted 21 rounds into each magazine. I removed the extra round from each, and figured that this space in the magazine was designed to ensure that a full magazine could be inserted on a closed bolt. With full magazines in hand, I squared up to the target and fired a few shots from about 10 yards determine how the sights were going to perform. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the gun and sights aligned nicely.

The EVO 3 S1 features easy to use and fully ambidextrous controls.

The EVO 3 S1 features easy to use and fully ambidextrous controls.

The Scorpion proved accurate and reliable no matter what kind of ammunition I fed it, and feed it I did! True to its ancestor, this gun begs to be shot hard and fast! I found myself frequently surprised by how quickly the magazines seemed to empty themselves. I passed this gun around to half a dozen shooters, and each person was able to quickly master the controls and adjustment with zero instructions. The magazines fed reliably and were easy to load. The left-handed shooter in the bunch remarked about how nice it was to have ambidextrous controls at their disposal.

I was interested to see how the non-reciprocating charging handle would work to clear malfunctions, so I loaded up a magazine was several snap caps in the mix and handed it to a shooter, asking them to fire as quickly as possible. The malfunctions that I had induced were easily cleared, and the shooter was back on target in no time. Some of the carbines on the market today have a rear-charging handle that require you to completely come off the gun to clear a malfunction; this was a nice departure from that.

I measured the accuracy of this gun not by how accurately it fired a tight group from the bench, but rather by how quick a shooter could fire a tight group from the standing position. This served to judge the Scorpion within its intended parameters—all tools are designed for a particular task. The learning curve was short and fast for every shooter I handed this gun to.

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The rear sight unit, mounted on the Picatinny rail, features heavy duty protective wings.

The front sight unit is mounted on the Picatinny rail of the 9mm carbine.

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The front sight of the carbine is a post unit protected by heavy-duty dual wings.

The front sight of the carbine is a post unit protected by heavy-duty dual wings.

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After everyone had had their turns and the ammunition was gone, we circled up for a quick debrief. Every last participant was enthusiastic about this gun and wanted to know what the price was. A common complaint was the 20-round maximum capacity for the magazines.

The Bottom Line

Of the new crop of semiautomatic 9mm carbines on the market today, this one has got to be my current favorite. The gun is intuitive to shoot, aesthetically pleasing, light, and fast. The current MSRP is $1,049.00, and the CZ Scorpion compares well to other guns on the market in this price range.

I actually own an MP5, which probably has lowered my willingness to spend money on another 9mm carbine. This gun is much closer to the MP5 than the gun it’s named after. I personally think this is the gun that HK should have built when they came out with the UMP to replace the MP5. If I were to compare the Scorpion to other modern guns, I would have to call it an updated iteration of the MP5. My only wish for the Scorpion is that I could fit my full-auto trigger pack and retain my three-lug suppressor. Oh well, we can’t always get what we want, can we?

If you’re in the market for a pistol-caliber carbine, this one will serve you well at home, in your vehicle or wherever you travel.

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A simple and easy-to-use button frees up the stock to fold alongside the carbine.

A simple and easy-to-use button frees up the stock to fold alongside the carbine.

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The EVO 3 S1 Carbine's stock is shown here fully extended.

The EVO 3 S1 Carbine’s stock is shown here fully extended.

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  • Joe April 23, 2018, 12:44 am

    What kind of ammo would you suggest for home defense in one of these?

  • rt66paul December 5, 2016, 10:10 am

    How long until they start sending this carbine in 7.62 x 25? oh, please!

    • Nick December 5, 2016, 10:52 pm

      that would be SWEET! 🙂

  • hANNAbONE December 5, 2016, 9:46 am

    I really like the 9mm Scorpion. I’d like it more if it were chambered in 5.56 (*like its Bren cousin*).
    That being said, I have several CZ handguns that I will never ever part with. I’ve owned over 20 CZ’s at one time or another – yes, I am a fan of CZ.
    On the other hand, my particular needs for a 9mm carbine (*or another 9mm pistol*) are nil. I am thinking very hard about a “truck gun”…something small / dufflebag / backpack / small with a tick more firepower than a 9mm.
    And that would be the Rock River Arms PDS pistol. No buffer tube to mess with makes it an incredibly small package and true 5.56/.223 capability. Slap a red dot on it and boombaddabing you are ready for the next big firefight out “there”, wherever that may be.
    If this CZ carbine/or/pistol had the fun lever for full auto, I’d be all over it. But that isn’t happening yet, so I’ll wait patiently for the PDS to come into my hands. (*BTW – I already own the PDS Carbine and it is lights out.!!*) YMMV

    • Oscar Franco December 10, 2016, 11:21 pm

      Hi,I just bought me one and I’m trying to find accessories for it but have a hard time. Do you recommend a web site for it?

  • Michael Capace November 16, 2016, 10:20 pm

    I brought one of the CZ carbines to an outdoor range and it was shooting with amazing accuracy at 100 yards with iron sites it was on the money. Some of the guys with the ARs where trying it out and I heard nothing but praises. As far as the 9mm not having the same ballistic capabilities as the ARs well a 9mm can kill at 100 -300 yards so I never understood that argument. I do know the guys where having an easier time hitting the 100 yard target with the CZ then they where with their own guns. Its a two thumbs up for me to CZ I love it so I bought it.

    • Robert Leto December 5, 2016, 5:31 am

      Nice unit but I’ll just keep my Beretta CX4 thanks

      • mumford December 10, 2016, 11:40 pm

        good…we don’t need any more mag shortages

  • Rob October 19, 2016, 2:39 am

    Hello
    I just purchased the evo 3 carbine and I’m wondering if the faux suppresser can be replaced with a real one. If so, any recommendations?
    Forgive me if it had already been answered and any other previous posts.
    Thanks,
    Rob in Las Vegas

    • Joe December 7, 2016, 5:54 pm

      The faux suppressor can be removed by unscrewing it. The threads have blue loctite on them. Take a look at the Silencerco Octane 9 or 45 suppressor. Lots of good information on “The Original CZ Forum”.
      http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?board=91.0

  • Elea Kalevitch August 9, 2016, 5:54 pm

    I own a cz carbine. My test consisted of firing 600 rounds then filling it with dirt, turning it over feeding a 20 round mag and hitting the target every time, then putting it in a cooler full of ice water after it got so hot I could not hold it, submerged the mag with 10 rounds with it, pulled it out smacked the mag in as fast as I could and fired all ten rounds hitting a 3 inch target at 75 ft. It never jammed. Very impressed.

    • Paul August 22, 2016, 10:45 pm

      Not surprising. When NATO tested the P-01 it outperformed Glock, etc. in reliability, maintainability, etc. Also very accurate. I have six cz pistols (5 since my daughter borrowed one along with my 1201FP) and the carbine.

  • Mark July 12, 2016, 10:50 am

    I’m not in the market for a “full” rifle, so these carbine pistols seem to be an ideal fit for my needs. What, if anything, would I be “missing” by purchasing a carbine pistol like the Scorpion vs. a rifle. I know this is a very generic and subjective question, but I only own handguns so I don’t know what I don’t know. Thanks in advance.

    • TK August 19, 2016, 10:34 am

      Mark, as I’m sure you expected to hear, that depends on how you shoot and what kind of rifle you compare it to. In general, full (and even intermediate) rifle rounds will have greater potential for range, accuracy, and stopping power at range. PCCs are usually reserved for distances just beyond normal pistol ranges. Although they can be used out to 200+ yards, they often don’t do as well as rifles at that distance. Their biggest limiting factor is the pistol cartridge. Handgun ammunition tends to send heavy rounds with poor aerodynamics out with a fairly small powder charge, so velocities start much lower and drop much faster. Lower velocity means less range, less stopping power at that range, and faster bullet drop. On the other hand, an intermediate round like the 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington uses a streamlined bullet that typically weighs only around 55-62 grains and rarely exceeds 90 grains. This round is fired at a starting velocity that may double that of a standard pistol cartridge, and it loses that velocity much slower, allowing longer-range shots and greater potential accuracy at pretty much any range. Full rifle rounds like the .308 Winchester have the same advantages with the potential for higher velocity and greater stopping power. Rounds like the 6.5 Creedmore have been known to stay supersonic past 1,200 yards. The 6.5 Grendel can remain supersonic past 1,000 when loaded right — and it was designed to fire out of an AR15. PCCs are great for close quarters or home defense if you want more stopping power than a pistol without the massive damage to your own property that a shotgun would cause and without the overpenetration seen in many rifles. They are also less expensive to shoot on average. Rifles are superior for range, accuracy, and (depending on the calibers compared) stopping power. I prefer rifles for target shooting and will actually be using an SBR AR15 as a home defense weapon for the next couple of months until I turn 21 and can pick up an SP01 to fill that role. Pistol-chambered carbines are fun to shoot and are great defensive weapons, but to answer your question, you’ll be missing a lot. My recommendation would be to buy whichever one interests you more first, then save for the other. AR15s and AR10s are the kings of the semiauto game for accuracy, but something like a mini-14 or mini-30 would fill the role for a bit less. AKs and SKSs are also great choices for a bit less. If you want something that can really reach out there with accuracy, a bolt-action rifle like a Remington 700 or one of Savage’s rifles (110, Edge, Axis, etc.) will go beyond what most semiautomatic rifles or PCCs can do.

      tl;dr: rifles are typically more accurate, have far superior range, and may have greater energy on impact (of course, often with a smaller hole). Pistol-chambered carbines are cheaper to shoot, may have less recoil, and are less likely to overpenetrate than many rifles in a home defense situation. They are both different tools for different jobs, so you won’t be disappointed by buying both.

  • Don July 9, 2016, 10:59 pm

    Don’t know if you realize it but there are a few people making HK 3 lug adapters you can use with this gun. So you could use your 3 lug suppressor.

  • Scott July 8, 2016, 3:39 pm

    Can the faux suppressor be removed and replaced with a real one?

    • Michael August 29, 2016, 9:28 pm

      Not sure if you have an answer yet but yes the fo suppressor comes off and you can screw on a real one or scew a flash suppressor on the end of the barrell. Its a great gun

  • Darren P. July 4, 2016, 3:31 pm

    Can someone please tell me why I see everyone holding their rifles so far up on the forend. It seems to be a new fad. I would like to know.

    • Zach July 4, 2016, 10:35 pm

      It’s not a fad. Moving your hand to hold the weapon near the end of the weapon allows better target acquisition at closer ranges. Where your eyes go the weapon follows. We don’t use it for long ranges shooting.

    • Jimbo July 5, 2016, 12:15 pm

      It’s called “Thumb over Bore” or “C-clamp” and I agree that it looks pretty dorky. Some say its the way to go if you want faster target acquisition, indexing and reduced muzzle flip. I’ve shot both ways and didn’t notice much difference. I like how it made me feel more in line and connected with the gun, but I got tired faster.

    • Doug Sharp October 3, 2016, 4:35 pm

      It’s good for target acquisition and competition as it’s generally more stable and natural pointing. However c clamp grip is bad for fighting with the rifle, close quarters combat or if you run out of rounds in a fight. It’s also not good for weapon retention since your arm is fully extended already. Depends on the situation as to what’s best to use.

  • Unlikely voice of reason July 4, 2016, 1:39 pm

    Oh boy, yet another high dollar 9mm carbine which can do everything a Glock can do except fit in your pocket. It costs almost as much as an AR-15 with none of the ballistic advantages and almost no reduction in size. Enjoy.

    • Voice of reason? More like killjoy July 4, 2016, 9:41 pm

      If you can’t see the joy in shooting a rifle chambered in a cheap caliber with more punch than a .22 then i don’t know what to tell you. Not every weapon has to be a fighting weapon. Not every gun has to be practical. There are cheaper ways to get a rifle shooting 9mm but not every gun has to be a glock or ar.

    • rjack October 27, 2016, 2:59 am

      You seem like an absolute blast at parties.

      • rjack October 27, 2016, 3:00 am

        communist parties that is.

    • Dillon December 6, 2016, 10:39 am

      Ever shoot a carbine at close range targets for a few hours. Ever shoot a full sized rifle at targets up close for a few hours? NOT much difference other than recoil. The carbine is always easier and cheaper to shoot. Ever notice a rifle is more natural and forgiving of poor technique in comparison to a pistol? Ever try to run a drill with a pistol then run the same drill with a rifle? Every notice your shots and follow ups are always easier to pull off and your groups are always tighter with your rifle? No? Then youre a cyborg super soldier. May strike you as odd but CZ has a large enough market for pistol caliber carbines, large enough to release them in different variants and not really sweat an AR guy who doesn’t see the point.

      Just go hold one. You dont even have to fire one to understand why these sell so well.

    • Corni November 4, 2017, 1:22 pm

      Glock sucks!

  • Ken July 4, 2016, 11:20 am

    You need to explain why there is a post sight pin on the rear sight ?

  • Chuckchi July 4, 2016, 11:15 am

    Is it “ambidextrious” or “ambidextrous”?

    • al goodman July 4, 2016, 3:01 pm

      the latter, although it is frequently bastardized to the former when spoken on you-tube.

    • Kfeltenberger July 4, 2016, 6:28 pm

      A better description is bilateral…the controls are inanimate objects so how can they be “ambidextrous”? Bilateral is more accurate, “on both sides”. But the crowd has focused on ambidextrous and like the MSM and their tenacious clinging to “clips” and “assault rifles”, I guess we won’t be able to break this one either.

  • D July 4, 2016, 10:54 am

    Which parts of this firearm are metal and which are plastic. The grip obviously looks like plastic and the magazine sounds like it is too, but what about the whole receiver, top rail and sights? Is the outer housing of the fire-control group metal? What about the trigger guard? I’m not familiar with this weapon in pistol or carbine form and I can’t tell for sure from the pictures. The barrel, springs and other internal parts – I think I already know that answer.
    Thanks!

  • Bill July 4, 2016, 9:17 am

    Can you clean the bore from the rear?

    • Vincent Brennan December 5, 2016, 11:48 am

      You could clean it from the rear using a pull through system like Otis or (my favorite) the PatchWorm. I have both to clean the 4 10/22 Target rifles I have built (all .7-.8 MOA AVERAGE or better at 100 yards). People do not realize but it is critical to clean match grade rimfire barrels because of the hard ring of lube, carbon and lad built up in the rifling leade that can cause a Out of Battery Discharge (not fun!) and because the priming has ground glass in it that ends up at 6 o’clock in the barrel and can wear one out. Hating to use muzzle entering rods I came to these. The military hands out the Otis Kit for the soldiers and sailors that use it, at least some do because that is where I got mine. Hope that helps.

  • Gary July 4, 2016, 9:05 am

    I forgot to tell you a couple of things, #1 if you are Rt or left handed you need to cut the lever off the safety switch on the side you shoot on ,just take the trigger pk off use an allen wrench remove that safety switch and cut the lever off with a Dremel tool then put her back on an easy fix,it will worry the hell out of you if you shoot a lot,-or you can order a safety delete button from “HB Industries.net”and watch “there video “on taking off the safety button and installing the new one,I think it’s about $12.95 every body complain,s about this switch hurting your trigger finger. At HB Industries.net they sell a few upgrades for your Scorpion Carbine or CZ EVO 3 pistol, I replaced the Trigger $34.95 & Trigger Sprins $8.95 They sell a bigger Charging Handle $52.95 ,Both are sold in Black or Red , I got the Red Trigger & Charging Handle adds some contrast to the gun ,just watch the Videos and you can do them your self,I took my gun to a gunsmith friend to replace the trigger springs an polish the trigger parts makes all the difference in the world.

  • Gary July 4, 2016, 8:15 am

    Christian I own one of these guns it is a fake Supressor that’s why it is not quiet ? It’s a great gun and for my money it’s hands down the best 9 mm carbine out there, the mags 30 Rd can be purchased for $30 .oo ,The Sig cost $500.00 more and there mags are $68.00 ,a
    So if you put a real Supressor on the gun it is very quiet as long as you shoot sub sonic Ammo ,if you like the sig and put a Supressor on it ,Gonan buy a motor cycle helmet on with a big face shield on to keep the debree off of your face ,The sig is a great gun but do not put a Supressor on it you will be sorry ,That’s all I have to say about that ,CZ put the $9.00 spring ,kit in it ,from HB Industries it really inproves the trigger big time.

    • Christian July 4, 2016, 11:45 am

      Hello Gary! As the name “faux suppressor” has been used I thought that “faux” would be the name of a company that builds these suppressors and that is why I’ve asked this question, sorry about that. But thanks to JD MAK as well as to you Gary I now finally know! 🙂 It is also interesting that sub-sonic ammunition does really exist as I just saw it virtually in a video game a couple of years ago and I thought that is just invented science-fiction. So thank you also for this info! Have a nice Independence Day!

      • Vincent Brennan December 5, 2016, 12:27 pm

        I believe all 147 grain 9mm is subsonic, at least in pistol barrels. Speed of sound is roughly 1115 fps on a “standard day”. Memory tells me a Standard Day is Sea Level, 59F degrees and 29.92 Barometric Pressure. Temperature WILL change the speed of sound. Elevation does not change muzzle velocity but will change velocity down range because the air is less dense and the bullet will retain velocity for longer which means it will drop less at longer ranges.

        So if your muzzle velocity is less than 1115-1125 it is likely subsonic and with a suppressor will be quieter. Suppressor still works at more than speed of sound but you get the “SNAP” as the bullet breaks what used be called the “sound barrier” just like when we gat a sonic boom from a fast aircraft. This snap will continue to be made until the bullet slows to less than speed of sound which is pretty quickly with something like a heavy 9mm bullet

  • Scott July 4, 2016, 6:37 am

    Nice review! I have the “pistol” version (waiting on my SBR approval), and I used to own an HK MP5K (select-fire). Between the two, even though the Scorpion doesn’t have select-fire capability, I prefer the Scorpion. I really like the Scorpion sights- I noticed the rear sight pictured on your review is actually a different angle of the front sight. I did replace the right safety selector for an “AK style safety selector” from HB Industries, and I went with a new (slightly longer) charging handle from the same outfit. Regarding using your 3-lug suppressor on the Scorpion- you most certainly can! I have a blackened stainless steel HK 3-lug mount on mine. Just give Mark McWillis a shout at http://www.trosusa.com/, and let him know which thread you need.

    • David July 4, 2016, 9:28 am

      Scott,
      In regard to your comment about the two pictures being of the front sight… Though the two do look very similar, they are most definitely two different sights. Pic 1 is rear sight at the rear of the rail. Pic 2 is at the front of the rail. The soft in pic 1 has an indent to the rear of the post that is not on the sight in pic 2. Notice also that in pic 2 there is a screw on the right side for adjusting the post left to right. In pic 1 the screw changes to a pin that is smaller and moves forward on the sight chassis.

      • Scott July 4, 2016, 12:15 pm

        I’m sorry David, but you’re mistaken. Of the two images of specifically the sights, Picture 1 is the front of the front sight (description: “The rear sight unit, mounted on the Picatinny rail, features heavy duty protective wings.”), Picture 2 is the rear of the same front sight. You didn’t post a picture of the rear sight until further down the page- a side-shot including the folding stock release and the side of the rear sight (description: “A simple and easy-to-use button frees up the stock to fold alongside the carbine.”).

        -Scott

      • Scott July 4, 2016, 12:35 pm

        I replied once but it apparently didn’t “take”. So, let me try this again.
        I’m sorry David, but you’re mistaken. Of the two pictures (one of the “rear sight” and one of the “front sight”), they’re both of the front sight. The first picture is of the front of the front sight, and the second picture is of the rear of the front sight. It’s easy to tell because CZ doesn’t use a front sight post for the rear sight, and the body of the rear sight is entirely different than pictured.

        -Scott

  • Christian July 2, 2016, 5:08 am

    Hey guys, a few layman questions from me to you, hope you won’t mind. At first, my respect goes again to John Hodoway for explaining this gun perfectly and, as always, makes this very understandable to people just passing by, like me, as well. It also seems to be easily used and perfect for beginners as well, as he took the pieces out and put them back in the most user-friendly manner I saw so far. Not as complicated when he was showing the same thing about the M249S, although this is of course a totally different gun. Anyway, I was positively surprised!

    Now, I know that already the headline is mentioning it as well as the text itself but when I saw John’s friends shooting this cool thing, I wonder if it’s still some kind of fully-automatic instead of just semi-automatic? Either it looks to me like that or John’s friends have awesome fast trigger fingers. But when I observed theirs I didn’t saw them moving at all when the gun was shooting, except from “shaking” because of the recoil. So I really wonder, as I know that unfortunately pure fully-automatic guns are forbidden so far in the US.

    Second question: There is a lot of smoke coming out of the gun. Is that normal? I think it might disturb your view while shooting and, in a worst case scenario, tells the enemy your position. I didn’t saw smoke coming out from the guns in the other videos John was making and unfortunately he didn’t mention it in the video or in the text. I saw the video twice to make sure I didn’t miss it and I was also checking the text again.

    By the way, I honestly know not much about it, but I think the sound is still extremely loud for having a suppressor installed. I thought a good suppressor would dampen the sound completely. Years ago I’ve read somewhere about the MP5SD that its suppressor is so good that pulling the trigger is louder than the shot itself. But to my layman ears this suppressor on the Scorpion sounds like that you can fire the gun without a suppressor and there won’t be much of a difference.

    And by the way, John compares the pistol grip and the trigger guard of this gun to the MP5. I have to say that, from my layman standpoint, the whole gun also looks a lot like the HK G36. A very beautiful look I have to say. Modern and aggressive that sais “Don’t you dare touching me!”. I like that.

    • JD MAK July 4, 2016, 7:32 am

      Hi Christian,
      I’ll try to answer your questions.
      Q) ” I wonder if it’s still some kind of fully-automatic instead of just semi-automatic? ”
      A) Semi-automatic. Also, full-auto firearms are NOT forbidden, just heavily regulated and controlled. Civilians can own full-auto firearms in the U.S.

      Q) “There is a lot of smoke coming out of the gun. Is that normal? ”
      A) Yes, it there is oil present anywhere where there is heat. Some guns are run drier and others are not. So much depends on the shooter. And no, obscured vision is normally not an issue when oil is burning off of a firearm.

      Q) “I think the sound is still extremely loud for having a suppressor installed.”
      A) It is not a real sound suppressor, but a faux suppressor.

      I hope I answered your questions Christian!

      • Christian July 4, 2016, 9:36 am

        Hey JD MAK! Thank you very very much for answering my questions, I do really appreciate them and I’ve learned a lot, for example about the fact that there are suppressors and so called faux suppressors! In the video Jon (finally I realized his name is written without an h!) mentioned the faux suppressor but I thought that faux stands for a company’s name or something like that. Also your answers about auto/semi and especially the one about the smoke really gave me some good lessons about guns in general!

        More and more I like to come back to this website and even take a part in the discussions as well as this community is one of the friendliest I’ve ever met in the World Wide Web! Thank you so much again JD!

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