308 Pump ARs Are 49 State Legal + New AK Rails – Troy Industries – SHOT Show 2015

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Late in 2014, I reviewed the Troy PAR. This is a fantastic concept. While the Sporting Rifle is clearly derived from the AR-15 platform, its basic action is driven by a pump. When I think of pump rifles, I think of the old rimfires popular before the Great Depression. This pup rifle couldn’t be any more contemporary. It shoots straight. The action is incredibly reliable, and the thin stock, with its locking cams, will keep you amused for hours. It is so well thought out that I found myself playing with it more than with the rifle itself.

And now the design will be shipping in 300 Blackout and .308. This expands the versatility of the hunting gun, giving even more options for where (and for what) the rifle can be used. It is a 50 state legal system that’s bound to build as more people get their hands on them. A rifle with the same diehard reliabilty of a pump shotgun, and one that shoots sub-MOA? Forget the 50 state legal draw–I think this gun will eat away at the market for old-fashioned bolt guns.

And if hunting guns don’t do it for you, I bet the PDW will. This is one of the tightest designs I’ve seen from anyone at the SHOT Show, and it is an increasingly common design. If you’re willing to go the extra mile for an SBR, Troy should be high on your list. Their collapsible M7A1 PDW Stock system is easy to operate, and still strong enough to actually stand up to hard use. It requires a new tube, but the changes are worth the conversion process, as it allows the stock to collapse almost all the way down to the end of the reciever. It is an incredibly compact package, and one that’s easily concealable under a coat.

Troy continues to make furniture, sights, magazines, and forends, too. We’ll be doing more coverage with them in the near future and will have more on the PDW stock and the AK forends, so stay tuned for more.

The Troy PAR is now available in .308.

The Troy PAR is now available in .308.

The .308 will make this an even better hunting gun.

The .308 will make this an even better hunting gun.


And now there are 300 Blackout uppers, too.

And now there are 300 Blackout uppers, too.

If you're not into the PAR line, and want something that isn't 50 state legal, the PDW may be the answer.

If you’re not into the PAR line, and want something that isn’t 50 state legal, the PDW may be the answer.


The PDW is easy to conceal.

The PDW is easy to conceal.

The pad on the back of the stock.

The pad on the back of the stock.


The stock's latch is easy to thumb.

The stock’s latch is easy to thumb.

The whole package, even when fully extended, is incredibly small.

The whole package, even when fully extended, is incredibly small.

The muzzle ends make an impressive display.

The muzzle ends make an impressive display.

And for those Kalashnikov fans, Troy continues to work on the AK forends.

And for those Kalashnikov fans, Troy continues to work on the AK forends.

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  • GMan February 7, 2017, 4:23 am

    Why does it need a forward assist when it’s a pump action?

  • Archangel October 14, 2016, 11:29 am

    If it will cause “EXTREME STICKER-SHOCK” they will never list the price

  • Christopher February 8, 2015, 2:41 pm

    A 00 buck shotgun puts out lead per round. An AR15 / M16 does the same. Why go backwards with a bullet pump? I want sustained down range.

  • Christopher February 8, 2015, 2:38 pm

    A 00 buck shotgun puts out lead per round. An AR15 / M16 does the same. Why go backwards with a pump .223?

  • BlueBuddha February 6, 2015, 11:30 pm

    Can it shoot a mother out from under her baby while trying to shoot her husband in the back at 300 yards? Because that’s important to Troy.

  • Bill February 6, 2015, 4:22 pm

    Should be the link given to let us see their firearms

  • Rocky February 6, 2015, 11:34 am

    No matter how hard they try, they will never be able to make an AR into a pistol-grip-only weapon, without re-engineering the recoil spring out of the way.

    • Clinton Greywolf February 6, 2015, 4:43 pm

      That has already been done by several other manufacturers.

  • Anthony Valdemira February 6, 2015, 10:03 am

    Well its not New York legal with the pistol grip and the muzzle break.

    • scott February 6, 2015, 10:50 am

      It is NY legal only semi auto’s fall under the safw act. Not pump actions! You can do about anything to them you want because if the pump

      • Al P February 9, 2015, 9:36 pm

        Practically no rifle is legal within the 5 boroughs of New York City – a long arm need only carry more than 5 rounds to be disqualified; so practically all .22’s were made illegal (even my bolt action 7 shot). NYC doubles down on every gun law the Fed or State passes with sunset provisions – only they never expire in NYC.

    • Al Joy February 6, 2015, 12:01 pm

      I don’t believe the pistol grip and muzzle break are disqualifiers for NY State. Those restrictions only apply to semi- autos.
      I could be wrong, as Como keeps passing anti gun legislation overnight.
      One source of information is NY State’s “Safe Act” which bans everything
      98% of what is banned is responsible for less than 1% of the homicides.

    • jdamn February 6, 2015, 6:55 pm

      It is not a muzzle break it is a flash suppresser.

      • Mark N. February 13, 2015, 12:56 am

        And none of them are muzzle “breaks.” these items do not break the barrel, they brake the recoil. Muzzle BRAKE!

  • Dave Hicks February 6, 2015, 8:52 am

    Must every new rifle look like an AR-15 ? Pump rifles are still popular ,look at the Henry pump rifle and others .I still have my Winchester Model 62-A made in 1957.

    • Clint February 6, 2015, 10:25 am

      No they don’t *have* to. As you said there are plenty of others. Manufactures make what people buy; that’s just good business. Those that do own AR’s like the parts interchangeability. For example when I bought a nice scope for my .223 rifle it was nice to be able to move the HUD sight off to my .223 pistol. Its nice to have 5 trigger parts kits on hand that fit any of my AR’s and not have to keep 2 each of 6 different ones. I don’t mind have parts enough for a hobbyist but I don’t want to have to stock as if I was a store.

  • Scott February 6, 2015, 8:49 am

    Remington has been making pump action rifles for years and made a 7615 in a 223 so this PAR is not a new concept.

    • Jonathan Olenick January 18, 2017, 9:59 am

      My Remmington .308 pump rifle with a 10 round detachable magazine is a poor mans M-14. Jon

  • kevin huff February 6, 2015, 8:45 am

    so which is it- 49 or 50 state legal? And if 49, what state isn’t it legal in?

    • Administrator February 6, 2015, 8:49 am

      As it says in the video, probably not cali unless you mod it with a bullet button.

      • Jerome February 6, 2015, 10:29 am

        But it’a manual repeater not a semi-auto. That should make it Cali legal even with all the evil features as long as it uses a magazine of 10 rounds or less.

        • John February 6, 2015, 7:24 pm

          The PDW (with the short barrel) meets the California definition of a short-barreled rifle (shoulder stock with barrel less than 16 inches). These are illegal in CA.

  • Steve February 6, 2015, 8:01 am

    I take it that the PDW is a $200 tax stamp item?

  • Joe February 6, 2015, 7:44 am

    My brother in law has a beautiful pump action 30-06 rifle that is deadly accurate.
    I am positive this pump concept AR will be a big seller and if I can afford it this may be the next item in my safe.

  • Ralph February 6, 2015, 7:40 am

    What? You cannot list a price?

  • Evan February 6, 2015, 7:28 am

    That PDW stock is pretty cool.

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