What are we to believe with the numbers coming out of China? The World Health Organization initially declared a global pandemic, then backpedalled this week on the 4th and said it was not. How is a discussion even possible with only a few very closely guarded infections in countries outside of China, and only about 500 people killed in China by the epidemic?
Somebody is wrong or lying. None of the information adds up. But there have been glances at what may be the true picture of what is going on in Wuhan.
Look at the above image. It is from a recent article on a recent article on Zero Hedge. The picture is a screengrab from the website Tencent, and their official “Epidemic Situation Tracker.”
There are two images next to each other in the picture, with the same data, one day apart. On the left it shows the numbers for February 1st, 154,023 infected, and 24,589 dead. Then the next day, on the right, the numbers are severely reduced to what were the official government numbers of the day.
Meanwhile, out of Wuhan, there are reports that the crematoriums are running 24/7, and burning 100 bodies per day. The government has banned funerals. The people are dying, and they take them immediately out to be burned.
Here in the US, things are as normal. Even the stock market has recovered on news that a vaccine is on the way.
Are we that stupid?
WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE CHINESE ASSHOLES SPRAYING FOR?
A virus can only live outside of a host for a matter of minutes, and very rarely under the best scenario, up to two hours. Spraying is something you do for an insect or parasite, not a virus. It makes absolutely no sense!
At the very least, figure out how to stay inside for a while. There is no rush for canned and other long term off-grid foods right now. Take advantage. To really engage the problem, please check out my most recent Prepping 101 column for the cheapest options.
And if you can, buy at least one mask of some kind per person.
You will pay heartily for them already, and soon there will be none left to obtain at all, and you will be forced to resort to the CDC’s “t-shirt method“. Or just revert to “Respiratory Etiquette” as the CDC also suggests, and ask people to sneeze into their sleeve.
Guns just aren’t enough when the game is finally over. Your neighbors don’t have any quantity of food either. I don’t know if the music has indeed stopped, or if we will be back to “everything is awesome” soon enough. But I have an obligation to share what is most likely an enormous coverup of the crisis that is really unfolding behind the scenes. Zombies aren’t real. But frantic people in a crisis are very real and very dangerous. Ten years early is better than one day late.
This is from a new article at ZeroHedge today:
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When we look back on this moment from the vantage of history, what will we think? Will we think how obvious it was that the coronavirus deaths in China were in the tens of thousands rather than the hundreds claimed by authorities?
Will we think how obvious it was that the virus would spread around the globe, wreaking havoc on the global economy and social order, even as the authorities claimed only a handful of cases had arisen outside China?
Will we be amazed at the delusional confidence that the U.S. economy would be untouched by the virus as stock markets quickly soared to new all-time highs while the world’s largest economy ground to a halt in a desperate attempt to close the barn door after the horses had already escaped?
Will we look back at the patently false data being promoted by authorities and wonder why the majority accepted it all as credible?
Will we re-examine all the smartphone videos posted on the web by average people and wonder why all the lies were given more credibility than actual videos?
Will we recall how content that didn’t parrot the approved narrative that everything was under control and the global impact would be near-zero was suppressed, banned, de-platformed or marginalized? Will we wonder at the complacency of all those who accepted this orchestrated suppression with such obedient passivity?
Will we look back at the claim that only twelve people in the entire U.S. had the virus, despite all the direct flights from Wuhan and the tens of thousands of people who’d traveled from China to the U.S. in January, and marvel at our credulity?
Will we look back at the wreckage left in the wake of the coordinated campaign to suppress the facts and lay the responsibility for all the carnage on the authorities who devoted more energy to hiding the realities of the pandemic than to preparing us for the impact?
Will we ponder the incredible grip of mass delusion on the human mind when we recall the confidence that the U.S. economy was invulnerable to the virus and the implosion of China, and the blithe quasi-religious faith that central banks would never let global stock markets decline even 2%?
Will we wonder how the mainstream could watch the Chinese economy shutting down and still remain absolutely confident that the global economy would be untouched as the spot of bother was sure to evaporate in a week or two and all would be restored to pre-virus euphoria?
Will we wonder what were we thinking? and marvel anew at the madness of crowds? Will we wonder why we embraced the delusion so readily, and relive the moment when the gate to reality creaked open? Will we relive our realization that we’d embraced an absurd fantasy floating on a tissue of lies, or will we bury that painful moment of truth?
Wowwww thanks much for sharing.
May God be our helper
Relax everyone. This is “Nature culling the herd”. What is the big deal a few hundred thousand ChiComs die in a country of 1.4 Billion? Nothing.
Even if a few million, or more, die, so what? They will be forgotten in due time.
The Black Plague in the 1300’s was actually a very positive occurrence for the evolution of the human species. The weak were eliminated and the strong were strengthend. This pestilence eliminated every one from serf to nobility to royalty. It was truly a “biblical” event.
The “Spanish flu” of 1918 eliminated 10’s of millions. Did humanity in general suffer? No. It thrived to the point that those who didn’t have the immune system to prevent their “eliminations” were forgotten about within a couple of years.
This is what is meant by “Nature culling the herd”. Realize, accept, and move on.
I’m not worried. Trump said it will go away on its own. MAGA.
Yep, by having your Liberals spayed or neutered.
So, what do think now?
Over 127K dead with anywhere from 2.6M to 26M cases and over 40K new cases a day.
Maybe 100K new cases a day coming up.
50M out of work.
Small businesses closing down and not reopening.
What do you think of that?
@Jack Ah, you must be concerned.
Unfortunately this virus can survive for several days on a surface and remain infective if it’s transferred to another person. Coronaviruses like 2019 nCoV and SARS are quite contagious as fomites. Influenza viruses also survive on surfaces for several days, especially in colder temperatures on surfaces not exposed to sunlight. Hepatitis viruses can contaminate surfaces for several days as well. Retroviruses that cause AIDS as an example, do not survive on surfaces for more than an hour or two when in a fluid cause as the fluid dries it damages the virus particles. It just depends on the virus in question as to how long they can remain viable outside the body or when deposited on surfaces.
As of today, 02/072020, I am sitting in my second home in Kunming, Yunan Province, China, and have traveled the mainland ( except for the Wuhan region on the Government’s advice) and your article is basically fake news, ment to inflame the uneducated. I see the reports 24/7 on tv, better yet, I see it in real time on the streets-every day. I have been here since before the outbreak, and plan on returning to the US in the next week or so. I feel totally safe and protected here by the Local and Government’s pro active take on this sickness, even before it was identified. Doing something is almost always better than nothing. If you aren’t in the mix, I’d suggest you preference your comments as “wild ass speculations on your part” only.
My contacts in Shenzen have the same take on it. How would it be what has become the establishment term “fake news” now? There are no claims here of anything novel that is not being reported now by every major media outlet in the world. China now has over 400 million people on lockdown for 600 deaths, and what, 20k or so sick, in a country of 1.5 billion? Yea totally safe. You are for sure getting the real story from the government. Everything is awesome.
Don’t get in on the Main Stream Deep State Conspiracy Theory. It’s tough enough out here in La La Land.
I have no skepticism of the article, its veracity or the sound advice on masks. I would, however, like to have higher confidence in the numbers in the screen shot; but, I see no indication anyone contributing here can read or speak Mandarin. These could be stock market quotes for all I know. Certainly, both the Chinese and the WHO have prescient motives for lying but the premise of the article–without confirmation of the numbers in the headline–leaves one with the absurd conclusion that the Chinese are trying to hide the numbers in the headlines by posting them in Mandarin…on the assumption that no one outside China is able to read them.
My brother lives in Hong Kong, works at the US consulate. He sent me the same numbers. The red are confirmed cases, yellow suspected, green recovered, and the grey are dead. Yes he speaks Chinese. Two dialects. Scary stuff. He sent his kids back to the US weeks ago.
If this “virus” truly does bring China to its knees, then we can also thank the greed of corporate America for off-shoring America’s ability to self-sustain to the Chicoms. Sacrificing America’s manufacturing base and worker on the altar of the almighty dollar may have enriched the one percent in the short-term, but will have devastating consequences for the country in the long haul. Trump is trying to reverse this trend, but after decades of off-shoring, one can only wonder if it is too little, too late. Will “Made in China” be America’s epitaph?
A report out of Hong Kong last week said, that the numbers offered by the government may be reduced by a factor of 30. Instead of 500 it may well be 15000 or more. CDC says more important than masks are antiseptic hand washing, as the virus has shown up on surfaces like door knobs and such.
Zoom in and out from an altitude of 200 miles to say 7000 ft over Wuhan using your favorite GIS tool. Now go to Los Angeles, Denver, London, etc.
The density, along with culture over many more years than we tend to think, has created a colony very similar to bee’s or ants. Take the first world and push technology that they really never developed themselves in china over much more time than the western world, and this is what you get. The consequence is just part of BEING a part of China.
isn’t this the same author who predicted some huge war(or something else, I can’t remember now) would occur a few summers ago? or was that a different gunsamerica author?
Yes, it’s the one who explained that the white lines in the sky are geoengineering, called solar radiation management. And that this was probably why Jade Helm and other exercises inside the US are ramping up for a police state, because the planet is melting down and it is being covered up with artificial cold weather in the eastern and central US. You were probably one of the people who just wrote it off the conspiracy theories, like this one.
feel free to bring your happy ass up here to Northern Minnesota and enjoy some artificial -30 temps and 20+ inch snowstorms.
Yea and surprise surprise it’s 60 degrees next week, or often 3 days. Obviously winter hasn’t dissapeared, but the bitter cold generally is from ice nucleating chemicals dumped into the atmosphere above your head. But you’ll never believe that, or bother to research it, or even use common sense, until everyone else does. You don’t have the courage.
What will happen when the bio agent hits North Korea?
Some comments are funny! Most likely China is not telling the truth about the real numbers but if the numbers were larger in the US, you think the Dumbocrats wouldn’t be blaming Trump?
This is just a precursor of what’s to come. They’ve been saying for many years, it’s not a matter of if, but when!
And I don’t know if you’ve been checking but people are dying every day and they will continue to. The question is, are you ready?😳
That opened question could be interpreted in two different manners.
I know “preppers” have taken measures to try and survive catastrophic or systematic failure and that is a good idea. Still though, preppers will also die in the short and long term of a systematic failure. Many preppers have already died of natural causes before their efforts were tested. The Burt Reynolds character in “Deliverance” might represent that type of example.
So maybe the question is a spiritual one.
I have a question that I would like an answer. The person talking about N95 masks said, “it would stop a 3 micron item, 95% of the time”. Which 95% of the time is different than the other 5% of the time? Not being a smartass, but want to understand if the 95 refers to time or particles? Thanks.
I’m told the virus has to piggyback on droplets and dust particles and the N95 masks will stop those. To achieve greater filtration, a real NBC rated mask would be necessary.
So why don’t you actually read the article that this one links to? Probably you heard that from someone who read it, or watched the video.
Thank you for responding. I read a couple of articles of Zero Hedge that had their links in the article. Neither mentioned masks. Didn’t find any links the video stated. What is your opinion of which way the 95 pertains to?
omg really. What are you on prozac?
Thank you. What is Prozac?
It is an ssri drug that inhibits the person taking it, making them slow and dull. I’m sorry but this article links in two places, including a giant image, to the mask article.
Thank you. Apparently there are some not so nice people on this site, or perhaps they don’t know either?
Maybe the original numbers were in Yen.
To build a military operated superhospital in 10 days, something is very, very wrong, like the Chernobyl disaster
Don’t believe China? Oh c’mon they don’t lie about anything over there😳
I work in the pork industry and when ASF, African Swine Fever, broke the numbers of dead pigs reported was very low also. An American representative from one of the world’s largest pork processors that starts with S told the National Pork Board to take the number that was reported out of China and multiply by 100 minimum.
If they did that with pigs, why wouldn’t they do it with people?
Great point!
All travel to & from China should be immediately banned until this virus burns out and the Chicoms go bankrupt trying to control this
No way one person per cremating unit that’s all crap 100 bodies you don’t understand.stuff your oven full of meat and see if you can burn it or will the juices just pour on the floor after hours of getting just warm
It takes approximately an hour to burn a body in a crematorium.
Fact: There is a biological / viral ‘research’ facility in Wuhan, under the control of the CCP
Fact: Biological material has been stolen from the west and ended up in China on numerous occasions
Fact: The Chinese would not be averse to researching ‘alternative’ means of waging ‘warfare’, even those that might be banned or immoral, or that targets a civilian cohort or civil society.
Fact: They have performed human cloning and genetic modification, in spite of worldwide bans against doing so.
Fact: The Chinese steal stuff via their agents posing as students in any and all institutions around the world.
Fact: Viruses do escape captivity, accidentally or deliberately
Fact: China thinks they deserve to have more and be more, even lying and stealing to achieve that more powerful place in the world.
Conjecture: The Novel Corona Virus was a package that was being developed to use in certain situations by the Chinese on foreign soil, but got away from the facility into the local population. The ‘marketplace’ theory was smoke and mirrors.
Fact: Karma is a bitch, and has come back to bite those who would mean to do the west harm.
I’m with you on this, it is a weapon that got loose. I hope someone in U.S. can come up with a stop for this, otherwise I’ll be wearing my respirator with organic vapor cartridges.
fact: speculation without CREDIBLE evidence and the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community is not fact.
Yes I agree. And there are two, not one, but two bioweapons labs in Wuhan, and the virus was found to be spliced/edited or whatever you want to call it. It’s scary!
What if this is NOT a virus, but some kind of biological weapon they were experimenting with and it got out of the lab some how……zombie movie may not be too far fetched.
Joe Biden said that China is our ally! How much did that cost the Chinese?
You had to bring Politics into the discussion. How pathetic of you.
So some of the sources cited in this article are not enough to get you to comment on the validity of the content yet you attack someone about bringing politics into the story. everything is about politics!
He just said that so he and his boy get their weekly checks.
But Joe Biden says that China is our ally! Don’t you wonder what it cost China to get Joe as their apologist?
TRUTH
Read the back of a can of Lysol. It kills the virus. Even if this is a mutation. It would have to be one hell of a change. For the virus to survive a good cleaning. Inside the body is a different story.
Lysol: kills 99.9% There is still .01% of viruses it doesn’t kill.
The WHO can’t be wrong to declare the situation a pandemic if you ask me. But I strongly believe the Chinese are lying to keep people calm. So many families are leaving China temporarily. I mean those who can afford to.
It takes 14 days for this to show symptoms. The first confirmed cases were found in the US at least a week or two ago. This is already here and we won’t be told much about it until it’s too late.
Actually, the WHO can be wrong. They’ve been wrong in the past. Some of their declarations of a pandemic didn’t “pan” out. And how can they claim This is a pandemic when it currently is isolated in one small part of one country?
This is not from a bat or insect. This is a biological weapon that either accidentally or purposely got out of the Chinese Governments Bio weapons lab that is located in Wuhan. Having lived in China I have no doubt that the numbers are conflated and a cover-up is going on. We are not being told the truth by the CCP