Anti-Gunner Says NRA is Responsible for Capitol Occupation, Meanwhile Video of Alleged Antifa Members Surfaces

Antifa breaking windows at Capitol? (Photo: Bitchute)

It was only a matter of time before the NRA and law-abiding gun owners were blamed for yesterday’s shenanigans at the Capitol.  

Leading the charge on this front, unsurprisingly, is longtime gun-control advocate Joshua Horwitz. 

In a brief interview with The Trace, Horwitz, who is the executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV), said the National Rifle Association has, over the years, “created this environment,” which he contends is characterized by an insurrectionist mentality.  

“When [then National Rifle Association president] Charlton Heston said, ‘Out of my cold dead hands, Mr. Gore,’ to today, there is a direct line. It’s saying that violence is part of the political process.” Horwitz explained.   

Horwitz believes that politicians need to publicly disavow individuals who continue to hold the idea that the Second Amendment affirms one’s individual right to keep and bear arms as a means to defend against tyranny.  

“Large portions of the Republican party and the gun lobby have normalized the idea that threatening a violent overthrow of government is within normal bounds of political discourse,” said Horwitz in a Facebook post on Wednesday.  

“President Trump’s insurrection will not succeed, but the ideology has fueled a deadly proliferation of guns in our country and the rise in domestic terrorism,” he continued.  “Moving forward, all elected officials must unambiguously reject insurrectionism and commit to meaningful gun law reforms.”

SEE ALSO: Pro-2A Militias Are ‘Treasonous’

Horwitz didn’t explicate what he meant by “meaningful gun law reforms” on Facebook, but it’s not that hard to suss out after visiting the CSGV.org homepage.  

Bans on so-called “assault weapons,” confiscatory red flag measures, criminalizing private sales and transfers, ending shall-issue concealed carry, repealing the PLCAA are all listed as part of the CSGV agenda.   

“Either we will finally take this seriously and realize that there are no such things as private militias at the state level, there are only mobs,” Horwitz told The Trace, “or this gets worse, and if that happens, I shudder for our democracy.” 

Speaking of mobs, at least one eye-witness at the demonstration claimed that a coordinate gang of non-Trump supporters initiated the storming of the Capitol.  

Before Twitter suspended the account, the man who was apparently speaking to Alex Jones said that while his group was peacefully assembling another group of men with knee pads on suddenly ran toward the gates and started tearing them down.  

Lending credence to the man’s testimony, The Washington Times is reporting that using facial recognition software the firm XRVision confirmed that at least two Philadelphia Antifa members were inside the Senate.  

Then, there was this footage that was posted to BitChute (see below), which depicts men dressed in black attempting to break windows while a crowd of Trump supporters calls on them to stop. 

Antifa?  Hard to say with 100 percent certainty.  But the claim that this pro-Trump rally was hijacked by far-Left radicals has caught the attention of at least one federal lawmaker.   

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), while speaking on the House floor Thursday, said, “some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters. They were masquerading as Trump supporters and in fact, were members of the violent terrorist group antifa.”

As with every crime scene, we ought to let the investigation play out before we cast blame on any one particular individual, group, or organization. Let the facts tell the story. If we all do this, Horwitz might be surprised to learn that the NRA’s five million members and the larger coalition of law-abiding gun owners in America had nothing to do with the carnage and property damage we witnessed on Wednesday at the Capitol.

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  • Travis January 18, 2021, 11:46 pm

    Thank you for posting this.

  • Tenney Naumer January 14, 2021, 1:41 pm

    I find it really odd that the news editor would not have known that the Washington Times story was found to be false and was retracted.

    Also, how much sense does it make that bus loads of antifa would choose to offload where a mob of Trump supporters is? It is just hearsay. No photos.

    Now, we have some people dressed in black (there are one or two people wearing black in virtually all the scenes) trying to break a window. How many windows were broken by people not wearing black?

    Were the people smashing the face in of the police officer wearing black? No?

    Were the people hitting the other police officer with the American flag wearing black?

    Are you going to say they weren’t wearing black in order not to appear antifa?

    Tell that to all the law enforcement officers who are being picked up and questioned because they were at the riot.

    This is just the thinnest of evidence. Do better, please. We need rational discussions about what went on on January 6, and it is hard enough to have them without the sort of nonsensical article above playing the blame aversion game.

    And don’t try to compare this to the riots that caused so much destruction over the summer. What happened at the Capitol was an attempt to subvert democracy.

    • Phil January 15, 2021, 8:04 am

      The implied “reasonable” rebuttal is a total sham. As for the burning and looting, it’s more than just comparable. When politicians stoke the flames as was done this past summer, there is grave concern agitators such as antifa will infiltrate. Do your homework.

  • Jim January 12, 2021, 10:06 am

    There were obvious members of ANTIFA there and THEY are the ones that were causing the damage and doing the illegal rioting and damage in spite of the Trump supporters trying to stop them! They need to be identified and arrested and the media needs to let the public know exactly who they are and who they represent, namely ANTIFA!

  • Sammy Boy January 11, 2021, 4:00 pm

    I wanna dedicate a song to all the MAGA terrorists who stormed the capital:
    “No where to run to, baby…nowhere to hide” 😂

    • Gus January 11, 2021, 5:53 pm

      You’re a F**king moron

      • Sammy Boy January 11, 2021, 7:26 pm

        Sounds like it’s time to run off to your safe space, snowflake!

  • Bill Krull January 11, 2021, 12:37 pm

    This is typical NRA bullshit. You, and your followers, in fact, are complicit in the Washington insurrection and white militia throughout the entire nation. You’re as guilty as that criminal Trump and his gangsters

    • Bill jorgenson January 11, 2021, 4:10 pm

      Civil war is imminent. You can’t take the guns away.

    • Phil January 15, 2021, 8:06 am

      Ever hear of McCarthyism? Your comments seem to favor the line.

  • LouieG January 11, 2021, 9:19 am

    You people are aware that the FBI monitors this site and emails. All you trump tards have placed yourselves on their radar.

    • Bill jorgenson January 11, 2021, 4:12 pm

      Who cares if the FBI monitors this. Let them try to take our guns. They will run out of FBI agents pretty quickly

  • Solo January 11, 2021, 8:27 am

    All Hail Supreme Leader Trump!!!!!
    (I want to have your babies)
    (Nazi Salute with Enthusiasm!!!)

  • David Boswell January 10, 2021, 9:43 pm

    I was told by my Mother that a friend of hers was there , a veteran with 2 tours in Iraq and he said he saw a man dressed in trump clothing and noticed an antifa tattoo on the guys hand.
    I heard a gentleman talking today that went also, and he said it wasn’t at all like the press was reporting. People were having a good time and not being aggressive or confrontational , he thinks the gate breach was done by non Trump supporters.

    • Tenney Naumer January 14, 2021, 1:54 pm

      Watch more of the videos – the Capitol Building is huuuuuge! It makes sense that some people were just having a good time.

      But if everyone was behaving why did it take hundreds of backup police and hours to get everyone out?

  • Wolf January 10, 2021, 7:35 pm

    The politicians in that chamber are the reason for this riot! Not ANTIFU/BM! Not Trump! Not NRA! Not China, etc. etc. These no good do nothing pansies are the reason. Seeing all the mistrust in the media, mistrust in government, mistrust in corporations. Seeing all the changes in voting rules, voting numbers off by 10’s of thousands of votes going to Biden. Free for all ballots passed out to anybody and all with no accountability or tracking. WTF. Why was there no formal investigation? That’s what people want, but nothing. Not one court or state or politician doing anything but talk and say that our voices will be heard on Jan 6th. BS lies like we always get. Let them come for out guns.

    • Ron Yulick January 11, 2021, 9:03 am

      Over 5,000,000 new gun owners purchased firearms in 2020. A lot of them were Democrats. Do you really think making them criminals for exercising their Constitutional right after telling them that the election was the most secure in history, eliminating FREE SPEECH for those that have a different ideology, trying to impeach a sitting President for claiming he instigated a riot when not a single source can show where he actually said to do so – they are mind reading again, and on and on. Those same politicians as you stated have no clue they are the problem not the solution. I fear the day that their actions push some folks to more direct and severe actions against them individually. We need to start hitting them in their wallets. Start boycotting the Left media, tech companies, their advertisers, etc and tell them this is what we are doing. They do not care about a small group but if half the country were to do so we could force reasonable conversations without violence.

  • bob onit January 9, 2021, 8:00 pm

    All the bozo horwitz is gonna do is create gunpowder politics from the gunpowder party that is exactly why the second amendment is there to kill tyrants, or at least consider their actions…..

  • Yogi Quint January 9, 2021, 1:40 pm

    @ TomD

    Don’t worry, TomD, your assertion of the “stated desires” of BLM is false (You COULD correct me whith authoritative references.) and Antifa is even more negligible in numbers than Trumpian true believers.

    Not that we won’t have some dark days to come as the loopy, Right-Wing militias start killing innocent people in the name of patriotism – – – but they will be put down.

    Rational conservatives and liberals are still in the overwhelming majority in this beautiful country.

    • Phil January 15, 2021, 8:09 am

      Looks like Yogi got a new account. Saw his stuff under a couple different ones on this site…

      • Maglide January 24, 2021, 11:47 am

        Yep, Saturate your desires to appear to have a larger front. Same logic as those that make false reports of hate crimes, etc. Actually it’s a form of censorship as they try to minimize one man’s opinion by “trying” to appear to be the opinion of many they don’t have. It’s a false majority rule littered with unethical attempts to change to response to an issue. Totally bogus, unfair, unethical, unAmerican, unPatriotic, pro fascist.

  • Yogi Quint January 9, 2021, 1:27 pm

    @ T-Road

    Thanks for a terrific example of true believer reasoning:

    Yes, wearing a MAGA hat and waving a “Don’t tread on me” flag does not mean the perp isn’t an Antifa member, as you say.

    But only Trumpian true believers take it as proof that he IS.

    • Maglide January 24, 2021, 11:50 am

      Let me work my way through the double negative. Instead of trying to decipher that, if we can get a fair investigation we should be able to identify the people involved and learn their true intent. It’s called gathering of the facts. Something not done much. Then again, it is all based on an unbiased investigation.

  • Darcie Concemi January 9, 2021, 9:43 am

    The left wing extremists want to start a civil war in this country, and it seems it’s already started, we need to get this country back, Americans are sick and tired of the bullshit our elected officials, who use the political platform to push their own agenda. Talk about criminals WTF.

  • Bill January 9, 2021, 6:30 am

    The question is we can all sit here and talk about this or what are we going to do about. The responsible people always lay down for these left wing extremists and that’s why they keep tearing down our country and winning. Until we stand up for what our fore fathers fight for and died for this country we may as well just give it away. Unfortunately this is what we’re facing cause the way I see it Godless Country = Sin and disaster.

  • crosley January 9, 2021, 1:44 am

    I don’t like the provocative title of this piece plus the comments from the conspiracy believers are bothersome.

    The link to blaming the NRA in the pieces cited is tenuous.

    Any proof of antifa involvement in the assault on the Capitol is specious and piece by piece is being retracted or shown to be not credible. In addition, the police forces are in fact finding guns and weapons among Trump’s crowd who were at the Capitol. Much of that gun possession was illegal and arrests and charges are being filed or are coming.

    Meanwhile, a lot of the comments submitted here blast “the left”, claim antifa were who actually instigated the assault into the Capitol, (it must be antifa brought a gallows, too, I guess) forgetting that antifa means “anti-fascist”, is not actually an organization and that it fights the right wing inclination to having a racist police state.

    Such posters go off on rants against people who want proof and who request reason by stating they are unknowing and uneducated. Yet, some of those right wingers cling to mere assertions like those by Gaetz as “proof”. Most such posters ignore the evidence of the right wing Trump mob rush into the sacred ground of the Capitol while Congress was in session, which was there to confirm a democratic election. The mob defenders sidestep the obvious fact that the mob was trying to prevent the completion of a lawful election.

    The Trump inspired mob was who was trying to steal an election.

    I’m betting that the mob defenders want to forget that the mob was carrying many flags with the name of their Dear Leader on them. Or maybe they like the fact that the Confederate flag of the traitor secessionists was flown in the building that the Confederate armies never made it to, and which was an act that the Civil War was fought to prevent. Maybe they don’t want people to be free after all. Or they want white people to be free to have slaves?

    Others posting here apparently think there needs to be a civil war, implying it needs to be with armed force. As though any citizen armed uprising wouldn’t simply be crushed by the best military in the world with martial law declared afterwards.

    I find that all this unreasoning right wing drivel is what threatens my gun rights because it will frighten many otherwise reasonable people who will take it as justification to regulate guns or to take guns from persons who appear – justifiably – to be genuine nutcases who shouldn’t be armed. This inflammatory and unthoughtful article doesn’t help.

    You wingnuts should wise up and shut up.

    • RO January 9, 2021, 1:40 pm

      OMG you are truly blind and ignorant. Get your news from somewhere besides the MSM. If you actually did your research you would sing a different tune. What are you going to do sire when your job goes overseas, your taxes are raised to the stratosphere, your health isnsurance resolves and you have to wait for the government to ok your surgery, your taxes are spent on illegal aliens or sent to countries that hate us, gas prices are over the moon, they defund the police and a person is breaking into your home and they have taken your guns?

      What are you going to do sir then? Blame Trump??? Of course you are. I fyou haven’t figured our what you are going to do you better get moving because its coming because of the liberal media and demoncrat voters. I will not walk quietly into the showers YOU CAN! I will not be told to sit down shut up and obey. YOU CAN.

      It is a real shame that you vote and probably have had children. I feel incredibly sorry for you.

      • Buck January 11, 2021, 8:14 am

        Thanks for your comment.
        It looks like even this site has been infiltrated by these ignorant idiots.

      • huckleberry muckelroy January 11, 2021, 8:46 am

        You do not offer proof. All you have is propaganda, innuendo, and non sequitur.
        Go back to school.

    • tom paine January 9, 2021, 4:24 pm

      Hear, hear. Laying this on the doorstep of the NRA (as bogus an organization as it may be) is ridiculous, but suggestions of antifa involvement are completely ludicrous. Advocates for responsible gun use are supposed to be the grown-ups in this conversation. Let’s start acting like it…

    • Firegoat02 January 10, 2021, 11:40 am

      Right wing nuts threatening your gun rights?
      I suppose “I’m gonna take your AR 14” Biden and the Democrat party doesn’t have a thing to do with it.
      “Right wing nuts” wouldn’t be so upset about anything, if they weren’t constantly being threatened by the people you apparently vote for.

    • Pat January 10, 2021, 7:07 pm

      If you think your democrat comrades will give up stealing your guns from you just because you be nice and cater to there wishes, you are being very foolish. That’s what people thought of Hitler. Evil is evil. They can’t help but do what they do until good people stand up to stop them. The democrats won’t stop till all of there opposition is eliminated and freedoms are suppressed and there is a “utopia” for the elite. We only have to look at the elections to see what levels they will go to in order to win. The question isn’t IF? But WHEN? Are They are coming for our guns? Everybody knows it unless your a complete dunce and have been living behind a rock for the last 10-20 years. And sorry you’re double barrel shot gun will have to go also.

    • tripledubya January 11, 2021, 6:59 am

      Keep following sheeple…shall not be infringed….got to make y’all libtards mad cause we still got our guns huh? Ol joe will take good care of y’all…

      • BIGDOC January 11, 2021, 7:52 am

        You are remedial.

    • Michael Wilson January 11, 2021, 7:09 am

      You sound just like the parrots who say there wasn’t any corruption in the vote when there is and was. You are trying to discredit instances of ANTIFA causing the riot at the capitol. You are just another minion of the Commander in Thief who hasn’t a clue and seeks only to disenfranchise 74 million voters. As for your comment on the any uprising being crushed by the best military in the world, you are so full of s*it that your eyes are brown. First what makes you think that everyone in the military would obey an unconstitutional order? Their oath is to the Constitution and NOT to some Commander in Thief. Have you not noticed that the U.S. military being the best has been unable to defeat rag tag guerrillas in Afghanistan and other places? There are over 74 million gun owners in the U.S. If 3% of those would rise to defend the Constitution, that would be an army of almost 3 million individuals lead by former Generals and other high ranking retired military, the army would be composed of former military personnel along with citizens who believe in what the founding fathers established. There would be those active duty who would not fight their own countrymen and just as in the civil war, would join the side that shares their beliefs. You snowflakes had better gain some intelligence and quit poking a rattlesnake that will strike and bite.

      • DELCO January 11, 2021, 2:22 pm

        Rag Tag militia on Afghanistan? Buddy you are clueless. Those boys are not a bunch of farmers running around taking pop shots at our guys over there. I guess those type of things are easy to spit out when you have no first hand experience.

        • Mark January 11, 2021, 7:18 pm

          I think Michael doesn’t realize that just about any 10 year-old Afghani boy can smelt metal, and fabricate a knock-off AK-47 in about two days.

    • Chris January 11, 2021, 10:40 am

      Well said crosley

    • Gerald Schlenz January 11, 2021, 1:49 pm

      Crosley, your comments are full of left-wing opinions and democrat accusations. There are no facts, except for the fact that you want to shut-up opposing opinions (and facts) so that your false statements will prevail. Nice going. NOT!

    • Fal Phil January 11, 2021, 3:01 pm

      Crosly, you post is specious and is showing to be not credible.

      Oh, and your knowledge of history is crap.

    • Mark January 11, 2021, 7:05 pm

      crossly,

      Your post is a textbook example of exactly what you are opining against.

      You don’t like the article headline, or the commenter’s posts. You unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the article, even though the by-line writer puts in a video that VERY clearly shows Trump-supporting protestors stopping two property destroyers (in Antifa-associated all black colors) and even clarifies no direct blame: “Antifa? Hard to say with 100 percent certainty. But the claim that this pro-Trump rally was hijacked by far-Left radicals has caught the attention of at least one federal lawmaker.” (A true statement). Then you insert an insult and tell posters to shut up.

      You also state: “antifa means “anti-fascist”, is not actually an organization and that it fights the right wing inclination to having a racist police state.”

      Question: What exactly has Antifa done to fight a right wing racist police state? Please, I’d like to know.

      Have they introduced or authored new laws? Are they representing themselves as having a legitimate, or even though-out solution to a right wing police state?

      Are they trying to peacefully dissolve or reason with right wing police state groups to find a better way?

      The answer is unequivocally “NO”. There is no right wing police state to rebel against is there? They are purposely destroying property, claiming ownership of government buildings and municipalities that are not theirs AND violently harming innocent citizens along with law enforcement. You can’t have it both ways. You have no way out of this argument.

      You then judge the “mob” that you had no exposure to: “Or maybe they like the fact that the Confederate flag of the traitor secessionists was flown in the building that the Confederate armies never made it to, and which was an act that the Civil War was fought to prevent. Maybe they don’t want people to be free after all. Or they want white people to be free to have slaves?”

      Talk about narrow-minded and inflammatory – Right to my point, exactly what you opined against in the first place.

      BTW, in 1783 a very rag-tag under-gunned, under-manned and under-supplied group of colonialist beat the best standing army & navy in the world at the time. The British.

    • Phil January 15, 2021, 8:12 am

      We have the right to petition our government…

  • Tom January 9, 2021, 1:39 am

    Sam, My grandfather believed that there were things worth dying for during WWl. My father believed that dying while trying to save this country during WWll was worth it. Sam, I see the situation this country finds itself in now as every bit as dangerous as my family did in the past. I don’t want to die. But Sam I’m prepared to answer the call for my country. I’m no better then those millions of citizens before me. Oh, one more thing,
    twice in my life I swore to support and defend our constitution, the oath does not have an expiration date. So
    Sam I suppose I won’t run into you out there because of the “horror” of it all. Liberty or death.

    • Michael Wilson January 11, 2021, 7:13 am

      I totally agree with you. The gadsden flag kinda sums it up. The far left is poking a rattlesnake that is going to strike and bite if they continue down the path they are on. They have been allowed to get away with their shenanigans and believe they can continue to do so. I will stand and fight with my brothers and sisters if the need arises to protect and defend the Constitution I swore an oath that has never and will never expire.

  • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:10 pm

    The Courts local and federal all failed to do the job they took an oath to do. Crooked politicians were paid off to commit or go along with the fraud. Our Justice System watched multiple crimes take place real time as the participated. Those people have a full right to now fight. As Tax payer we pay their salaries. These people are high level criminals Fake News included.

    • Give Me Freedom January 11, 2021, 3:09 pm

      We no longer have a Justice system for the Constitution, we have a “legal system” and this fraudulent election just proved it.

  • sledge January 8, 2021, 8:57 pm

    Republican Sen. Josh Howley just got his book deal canceled by Simon and Shuster because he supported Trump. And you all thought Socialism and Fascism in America was conspiracy theory. Buckle up folks…Civil War on the horizon. By the way the Capitol Police who died was a Trump Supporter.

    • BIGDOC January 11, 2021, 7:53 am

      That’s because they realized the idiot trump HAS LOST HIS MIND !

  • sledge January 8, 2021, 8:53 pm

    OK just heard that Apple is removing the Parler App from the Iphone App store. Parler is a conservative version of Twitter. I guess Who TF makes Iphones and the components?…Yep…CHINA! DON’T BUY APPLE!

    • Buck January 11, 2021, 8:24 am

      Apple, and as of today 1.11.21, Amazon and Google joined in on the suppression of free speech by also going against Parler.

  • sledge January 8, 2021, 8:39 pm

    Can’t let Biden and the socialists get in there. Hopefully Trump has more up his sleeve. The socialism and fascism has already begun. Twitter, google, facebook have announced the will be suspending accounts with anti democRat rhetoric. They are now taking away free speech.🤬

    • Give Me Freedom January 11, 2021, 3:12 pm

      Donald Trump’s day in the sun is over. It is now up to We the People to step up and become the target of our enemies. If we do nothing these socialists will take over America. The soap box, jury box and ballot boxes have failed us thus far.

  • Todd January 8, 2021, 7:03 pm

    Go figure.

    The continual drift of the Leftist media to a Pravda-esque market runs on this sort of screed-feed.

    Hell, I think the NRA and gun-owners in general are probably behind abandoned puppies, low snowfall at ski slopes and hell, why not covidiocy to boot.

    Heaven forbid we pay any attention to the AntifaBLMan behind the curtain.

    Todd.

  • Yogi Quint January 8, 2021, 4:23 pm

    Over hours of comment, Trumpist true believers herein have “convinced” themselves that left-wingers (disguised as Right-Wing low-lows) were the insurrectionists.

    How can these people tie their own shoes?

  • Bart@ January 8, 2021, 4:03 pm

    Everyone is so stupid. I understand that Antifa and BLM members infiltrated the peaceful assembly and caused all the problems not supporters of Trump. I also learned that the national medias are continuing their blocking of the facts to the American public just like the medias in Russia and China. This tells me the leftist were involved in all this. I think in the 60’s it was Cruz Chev or whatever the leader of Russia said they would take over America without firing a shot and it would be through the minds of America’s young people that they will do it, thus we have the liberal arts schools cranking out teachers to teach new American history their way and we end up with these crazy Leftist people. What a shame.

  • Eleazar R Escobedo Jr January 8, 2021, 4:01 pm

    Next thing they will say NRA members are the blame for their kids

  • sfvshooter January 8, 2021, 3:29 pm

    You people are nuttier than squirrel poop.

    You’ve convinced yourself you’re right and everyone else is wrong despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

    You do realize sane people see you and the image of a deranged person walking down the street yelling at nothing in particular pops in their heads.

    You’re either very stupid or in denial. Either way, please come back to reality. Our country will be a safer place when you do.

  • kimberpross January 8, 2021, 3:19 pm

    I’m confused!! According to LeBron James that insurrection was absolutely driven by racism not the NRA!?!? The MSM says it was Trump supporters and now it is Antifa!?!? Time to think for myself or drink the koolaid…

  • Trevor_Phillps January 8, 2021, 2:48 pm

    🖕to all braindead libs on here

    • Buck January 11, 2021, 8:28 am

      Ditto. 🙂

  • pete January 8, 2021, 1:38 pm

    Spin all you commenters want, bottom line is the current occupant of the White House and some others organized and egged on his supporters and a lot of them then chose to commit sedition and other federal crimes, including felony murder. We all know those famous stormers who posed for pictures inside our capitol building are being quickly identified and they are all or nearly all right wing extremists. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

    • Rob Jones January 8, 2021, 3:52 pm

      Rrrreeeeee, quit watching cnn, sheep.

    • Bart@ January 8, 2021, 4:18 pm

      Where is our stinking news media, all I see on tv is crazy leftist comedians telling us all their crap, trying to be political commentators. The Jimmy Kemmels and that other guy that replaced a patriot Johnny Carson should stick to their unimportant occupations as comedians.

    • Paul January 8, 2021, 4:57 pm

      Agreed. Trump should be held accountable as an accomplice in Ashli Babbitt’s death, even though he didn’t fire the bullet that ended her life as she was breaking into the Capitol building on 6 January. If not for Trump’s election based, constant vitriol over the last several weeks (over and above his vitriol of the last 4 years), along with his encouragement of the protesters/mob on 6 January, she’d likely not have died that day, at least not because of trying to climb through a broken window in the Capitol building. It’s sad her life ended like this due to her Trump fanaticism. He’s one person I definitely don’t see worth dying for.

    • Walley January 8, 2021, 5:10 pm

      Peter, many thanks for your exhaustive investigation on uncovering everything that took place on Wed. 1/6. Fellow readers like myself greatly appreciate your quick and thorough analysis of knowing exactly what took place, who conducted it, and why. You investigative powers have no boundaries.

    • michael January 8, 2021, 5:33 pm

      Talking shit again. And the cop committed the murder. DEFUND THE POLICE & any other agency involved. Wouldn’t be the first time the 3 letter agencies did this & in other countries. The Democrats & this rogue Govt are responsible. That’s the best they could protect the Capitol ? They should ALL retire with NO PAY. Hell they should return what they got paid. Sorry Ass POS.
      Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer spoke of in glee, in response to then-president-elect Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies. “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.

    • Jeffrey Greenbaum January 8, 2021, 6:04 pm

      All the violence and arson in the left-wing cities wasn’t sedition. Moron.

    • sledge January 8, 2021, 8:44 pm

      ANTIFA gave orders on their FB page weeks ago to infiltrate, wear MAGA garb and cause a ruckus. Also heard the Capitol Police were told to semi stand down and some were told to go home early that morning. Video out there showing the police removing barricade inviting the people in. There is a picture of Nancy Pelosi’s son taking a selfie with ANTIFA. This sh!t was a staged setup.

      • Firegoat January 10, 2021, 12:25 pm

        I agree. Look at some of the videos out there. The number of police was small and they really didn’t put up much of a fight. Their line was easily broken and many just stood aside.
        Either the numbers of the Trumpers were too overwhelming, or secretly the police were siding with us.
        Or, the people in charge didn’t expect any real problems. Or lastly, they set us up by placing a small number of police to defend and a few paid aggressors to use the “ mob mentality” to do the rest.

        • Mike K. January 11, 2021, 3:42 pm

          or, or, or, or, or… I guess for you any conspiracy that fits, right?

          • Firegoat January 13, 2021, 8:48 am

            You have a better one?

    • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:00 pm

      And about 75% of the common criminal will vote democRAT everytime.

    • Mason X January 8, 2021, 11:45 pm

      You stick your Antifa /BLM thugs in a Trump rally to cause the violent you blame us for??? Your obviously an idiot and a left wing communist… your whole shitty commie terrorist new world order dirt bags have been smearing , slandering and back stabbing conservatives …. forever…. the only thing you morons want is world domination… Cuba … Venezuela… China…. Russia…. Europe…. and now us…well comrade…. get ready for Hell ….. well be roasting marshmallows on your stinking rotten screaming corpse before long….suck on that you Nazi prick!!!!

      • Solo January 11, 2021, 7:27 am

        Mason X,

        You should read your history how the Nazi’s took over Germany. Once you’ve thoroughly caught up on world history. Then you might learn that Supreme Leader Trump is the closest thing to Fascism this country has ever seen.

    • crosley January 9, 2021, 12:17 am

      I agree with this, except maybe the felony murder part. Not sure on that.

    • Tim Spalding January 9, 2021, 5:30 am

      This website is for supporters of gun rights. Please do not post here if you are not a supporter.

      • Steve Barber January 13, 2021, 11:51 pm

        What makes you think that neo fascists are the only ones who enjoy collecting and shooting firearms? There are all sorts of people who enjoy hunting and shooting and whose politics are not batshit crazy.

    • DW January 9, 2021, 8:02 am

      Agree. Those bozos will make more restrictive gun laws EASIER to enact.

    • Chris January 11, 2021, 10:49 am

      Agreed, Pete. It pains me to see some of my fellow 2A’ers fall prey to the cult of trump

  • Beachhawk January 8, 2021, 1:20 pm

    The reason no one takes Joshua Horwitz and other gun-banners seriously is this kind of childish nonsense. If a meteor fell from the sky, they would find a way to blame the NRA no matter how silly and outlandish. They are not serious people. They are activists who are paid to stir the pot and other people who have too much time on their hands and who find participating in demonstrations a form of entertainment. While the rest of us find meaning in family, work, religion and hobbies, the people who participate in demonstrations are followers who lead barren, unproductive lives.

    • Bart@ January 8, 2021, 4:23 pm

      By the way where the hell is the NRN during all these assaults on legal gun owning Americans. If not careful America will finds itself in the same situation as Hong Kong, the Chinese or Russians will someday appear on our doorsteps and it will be to late.

    • sledge January 8, 2021, 8:46 pm

      Yep…just like they blame the China Virus on Trump. China is the Dems best bud. They are selling the US out the China.

  • GWash January 8, 2021, 1:05 pm

    If gun owners had taken the Capitol, they’d still have it.

    • crosley January 9, 2021, 12:12 am

      No, most of them would be dead and the Capitol would be heavily guarded by the military thereafter.

    • crosley January 9, 2021, 1:47 am

      No, they would be dead or arrested and the military would be guarding DC buildings after martial law had been declared.

  • Sammy Boy January 8, 2021, 12:09 pm

    Don’t believe the main stream media, it’s all a complicated, multifaceted hoax! It was actually antifa who infiltrated the Capitol Hill rioters by first joining the proud boys, weekend warrior militias and Qanon groups years earlier. They joined by changing their appearances to look like typical slack jawed hillbillies and they threw us all off the trail by repeating the same anti democratic, anti American conspiracy theories that us patriots love to cling onto without a single shred of evidence. Same with those BLM infiltrators…they change their skin color like Chameleons in order to blend in. They’re called shapeshifters! Those of you who watch star track: the next generation know exactly what I’m talking about (I think it was a documentary). Just ask EagleGlock69 on Parlor. He’ll tell you the truth!!!
    So here’s what we’re gonna do everyone, y’all listening!?!? This country isn’t safe anymore since trump has now cow towed to the deep state pedofile satanists…we need to find a new country ASAP! Canada won’t have us at all and we’ll be eaten alive in Mexico and South America. Europe is full of queers and Africa and China will just give us diseases from the alien genome since the galactic invasion has started. Our only hope is for every last one of us to immediately move to Russia where our new leader Vladimir Putin will welcome us and all our guns with open arms. He’s a lovable fella, don’t believe what the state department says about him being a ruthless murderer who poisons his own people. We have to renounce our American citizenship and pledge allegiance to “vladi The Poot” as he loves to be called.
    So get ready patriots, it’s now or never. Sleepy Joe takes office in 12 days and it won’t be safe for any of us here. Godspeed and all hail Q, our mysterious and still unidentified truth teller!!! MAGA till I die or untill we destroy this once great country like a malignant cancer!

    • DW January 9, 2021, 9:11 am

      Uh huh. 🤡

    • Solo January 11, 2021, 7:32 am

      Lol! That was Great!!!!!

    • Chris January 11, 2021, 10:54 am

      Hey now, we would all be better off beneath Supreme Leader Trump! He’s always supported the 2A! I mean, what true 2A’er doesn’t agree with “take the guns first, due process later”? The election was stolen! He said it was, what more proof do we need?

  • bruce porter January 8, 2021, 11:50 am

    Your writer here is calling this attack “shenanigans?!” Tell that to the wife of the dead cop who was beaten with a fire extinguisher. Oh, I know, that attacker was probably a Marxist-Leninist in disguise. They do that all the time. Get real, and lose your delusions!

  • Tony January 8, 2021, 11:42 am

    Much more than the election was stolen. Those chumps breaking windows are bad actors not patriots.

  • Stephen January 8, 2021, 11:39 am

    So what the hell else is new! Law abiding gun owners are blamed for everything anyway! Crime happens because of criminals! NOT RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS! Some of you out there may want to chew on this…

  • Jim January 8, 2021, 11:38 am

    Gatz is correct and observant! He also noticed that those that were violent were the same individuals that have been seen active in ANTIFA and BLM riots except this time they were wearing Trump hats! Those responsible for the criminal behavior were NOT Trump supporters or NRA members at all, they were BLM & ANTIFA agitators!

    • Robert Lopez January 8, 2021, 1:39 pm

      False!

      • Old Timer January 8, 2021, 4:49 pm

        You might want to see the following:

      • michael January 8, 2021, 5:42 pm

        Yeah there are others such as the democrat Gov that gave the order to stand down. Police taking selfies with the people inside. So we have INCOMPETANT agencies in DC. They should ALL hang their asses in shame. No retirement & all fired. That goes for the rogue agencies involved. Like they never done this in other countries ? LMAO You are lacking any intellect. 😊
        Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer spoke of in glee, in response to then-president-elect Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies. “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.

      • DELCO January 11, 2021, 2:40 pm

        4 years of a Russian hoax.
        Muller investigation which was composed of 14 of the most ANTI TRUMP hating democrats who all donated to Hillary. A fake impeachment, which Biden admittedly bragged about doing actually. 6 months of Riots, burning down mom and pop businesses, knocking out elderly citizens, shooting black trump supporters. A bail fund set up by Kamala Harris to Free violent Antifa/ BLM criminals. False agenda driven media , that protected a candidate who is not mentally competent. And now Parlar and other FREE SPEECH outlets being Shut down by left wing supporting social media billionaires who have the power to control the masses. And to kick it all off the Obama administration spied on a political opponent. What happened on the 6th was not good, but for the left to complain after 4 years madness in all directions is absurd.

    • crosley January 9, 2021, 1:51 am

      Gaetz is a liar and a provocateur. He merely made a statement without proof and, of course, some non-thinkers accepted it as truth.

      Antifa is merely a convenient whipping boy for the right wing. Don’t need proof if its name is brought up.

  • Kane January 8, 2021, 11:32 am

    In Dallas on July 7, 2016, BLM held an armed rally marching through the streets of the city. BLM supporter Michal Xavier Johnson wanted to “kill White people” and he chose that occasion to murder 5 Dallas Police Officers.

    Don Lemon Joe Biden et cetera give BLM a pass. After all BLM is an integral part of the Demshevick party.

  • Mike January 8, 2021, 11:32 am

    The protest was completely peaceful until it was announced that vice president pence did nothing about the voter fraud. The DC Police started tear gassing the crowd and that is when it got ugly. Antifa were the ones breaking windows and throwing fireworks, not the Trump Supporters for the rally and to make their voices heard to Congress over the voter fraud. There are videos of Antifa being bused in as well as a video from inside that seems to show this was a false flag operation with coordination between police and people who were in The Capital.
    What happened on January 6th, 2021 was the culmination of a Coup that started in 2015. The Democrats who committed voter fraud, The States that allowed voter fraud, The Supreme Court who refused to look at it, The news media who covered for the voter fraud, and finally vp pence, are to blame for Ashli Babbit’s death.
    If the voter fraud is not dealt with, The United States is on a direct and certain path for another Civil War.

  • ray January 8, 2021, 11:27 am

    THE LEFT IS RESPONCIBLE WHAT DO EXPECT WHEN YOU STEAL ELECTIONS AND AND TRAMPLE PEO

  • Jim Farmer January 8, 2021, 11:13 am

    A time is Coming where Good People will have to do Bad Things . . .

  • Richard Amberg January 8, 2021, 11:13 am

    I am a voracious reader and review the N.Y Times, Detroit Free Press, and the Guardian on a daily basis. I have not seen one item in print that suggests the individuals who support the 2nd Amendment were involved in the actions of Trump’s looney followers. The fact that probably all the protesters are in favor of gun rights is not a causal link to what happened in our Capital on the 6th of January. It is time to blame the actors who are so mentally deficient that they take the word of a lying President over the outcome of over 60 lawsuits challenging the election results. The judges in each of those cases found that there was no factual basis to support the claims of Trump and his followers. Some of those judges were even appointed appointed by Trump.

    • Jim January 8, 2021, 11:44 am

      No those ‘Judges’ DID NOT find that there was no factual basis for those lawsuits. The facts were NOT EVEN CONSIDERED! The Lawsuits were dismissed because those who brought those lawsuits were determined NOT to have standing and the facts were not even looked at. There has been many instances of proven fraud in these cases but these ‘Judges’, most of whom were appointed by Democrats or are friends with Obama, Abrams, Clinton, etc. dismissed them out of hand.

    • FedUp January 8, 2021, 12:53 pm

      You’re mistaken about the lawsuits. None of these lawsuits were actually heard by a court. They were all rejected on some administrative basis, usually lack of “standing”. Therefore, there will be no enduring record of the massive voter fraud that occurred in this so-called election.

      A number of the people who stormed the Capitol have been identified as Antifa. They succeeded in preventing the objecting senators and rep’s from presenting the evidence of fraud. That would have created a lasting record.

      Now, the Left can write the narrative as they please. In a few years, when those of us who witnessed this massive fraud, the death of America as a free Republic, are gone, history will believe the pack of lies that are being splattered all over the media.

      This is how a once great nation is turned into a fascist oligarchy.

      • crosley January 9, 2021, 12:10 am

        You are wrong about the lawsuits. Trump’s advocates had their chances. Lack of standing is not an illegal concept. It’s a foundational requirement. Not all of the suits were tossed because of a lack of standing, many were tossed on the merits. If Trump’s lawyers couldn’t make the complaints stick in state or federal courts, that’s on them. Or, I guess, you, the great and all knowing “FedUp” knows more than Trump’s probably highly educated and highly experienced election law attorneys and the judges they went in front of and it’s all unfair and shows how rigged and stolen the elections were. Yeah that’s it.

      • Solo January 11, 2021, 7:42 am

        Fed up,
        Your wrong following Trump blindly is how a once great nation turned into a Fascist oligarchy.

        All Hail Supreme Leader Trump!!!
        (Nazi Salute)

    • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:13 pm

      You get your news from the NY Times….says it all. Hey guys…this guy just admitted he has been brainwashed.😝

  • JonsOn January 8, 2021, 11:02 am

    Whoreshitz like other leftist clowns is talking out his ass or maybe out Joke Biden’s ass. Either way he’s talking crap. This election was stolen by the left of that I have no doubt. I do however doubt that those pushing violence in the capital were conservatives. It smells of Antifa dressing up as Trump supporters and getting violent to make the right look bad. It’s not the first time they have done something like this and probably not the last. Conservatives are for peaceful protest when we protest. Which is seldom. The left on the other hand protests a lot, leaves a mess and violence usually happens. If Joke and Skumballa think that taking our guns is a good idea then the right just might get violent. It won’t however look like the violence that comes from Antifa and BLM. It will be targeted and precise. I hope it never comes to that but like many here freedom is worth fighting for and America and it’s ideals are worth fighting for. Let’s hope no one has to fire a shot to keep it.

    • R. B. January 8, 2021, 11:55 am

      If you believe that BLM and Antifa did this horrendous act on our Capital you are sadly mistaken. There was no police presence that tells you they were of trump supports. Once realizing they could storm the Capital and gain access to the Capital they charged like a bunch of hungry wolves. You will never convince me that Antifa or BLM were there to incite a riot and take over of the Capital. The trump supports would have stopped these people from taking their (Capital) and turning their gathering into a disgrace. You should think about this very hard before commenting. trump people took this opportunity to try over through the government to keep their president in power even after the people of the United States have spoken. trump’s own (APPOINTED) judges said there was no evidence of voter FRAUD. He appointed these judges thinking he could use them later to stay in office. He is sadly mistaken due to the fact Judges have to follow the LAW….believe in the democracy of our country and the people of the United States…..trump well be always remembered in the history of our country….defiantly not in a good way but……always remembered.

      • michael January 8, 2021, 5:53 pm

        If that was the case Trump supporters would still have the Capital. There were INCOMPETANT Police & security agencies. They should all resign with NO pay. The one that did the shooting should be in jail. I’d be embarased to say I was Capitol police. Or worked for any branch that was there. The Governor was involved. And NO doubt in my mind a set up by one or more intel agencies. What Chucky say ? Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer spoke of in glee, in response to then-president-elect Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies. “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.

      • Eric Holder January 9, 2021, 1:26 am

        Judges have to follow the law? So an individual I arrested for narcotics goes to court and basically the defense and prosecution have to both file a brief. I testified and the judge states on the record that my testimony was very credible and sees no issue. I return to court and the briefs are accepted. The judge states the case is dismissed and sites my credibility. Then leaves the bench in hast. The prosecutors mouth is hanging open and says she has never seen such behavior. I see steve the dealer later on the street and we talk. He tells me that when his attorney made an adjustment with his collar just before the judge ruled it cost an additional 15K to beat the case. Steve later shot and kiled one of his workers and set the car on fire. Just one example of judges having to follow the law. There are others I could provide. I am not trying to convince you of anything based on my direct experience. I am only trying to free your mind….Neo.

  • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 10:41 am

    Way to go, right wing trolls. You can’t even plan an aborted insurrection without claiming you were outsmarted by nonexistent Antifa thugs who took over your riot and even went so far as having KKK tattoos inked on their bodies. Man, Antifa is really, really good and you are not.

    • Kane January 8, 2021, 12:00 pm

      Lucky for you that “Cocks not Glocks” was happy to enroll you as a card carrying member.

      • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 3:05 pm

        Gee, Kane, you don’t read so good do you? My handle is Proud Goy, not Gay. But, ya know, if I had to choose between being you or being gay, it wouldn’t be you. Put some lube on that and pleasure your self where the sun don’t shine.

      • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 6:15 pm

        Kane, you don’t read so good do you? It’s Goy not Guy. But if I had to choose between being gay and being you, I’d be waving a rainbow flag.

    • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:21 pm

      So you know that one of the organizers of the Stop the Steal Rally was black…right? Trump got a lot more black votes than the Fake news wants you to know.

  • IbeantaDarwin January 8, 2021, 10:36 am

    By re-interpreting the US Constitution, there is no need to fuss with those amendment rules.

    Democrats control the US House.
    Democrats control the US Senate.
    Biden is the POTUS.

    The House will create and fund new seats on the SCOTUS.
    Biden will nominate the justices.
    The Senate will confirm the justices.

    The 2A will be re-interpreted. “…a well regulated militia…” means the military or Police. Assault weapons ban? How provincial. Turn them in or get taxed till your broke.

    • JonsOn January 8, 2021, 11:03 am

      That’s when the right will possibly get violent. It could be a repeat of 1775.

      • IbeantaDarwin January 8, 2021, 12:41 pm

        This plan will work for all of the legislation the left wants to pass. There will be nothing that can be done. There isn’t one person that can be identified and held responsible. This will go through every layer of our society, and it’s institutions.

        How exactly the left plans on making this work, remains to be seen. Sending the Police or military out to confiscate private property may not work at all.

        Alternative methods are too unthinkable to verbalize.

    • Missouri Militia January 8, 2021, 12:05 pm

      That will only happen in your utopian dreams.

  • John Boutwell January 8, 2021, 10:36 am

    Stopping tyrannical government is exactly why there is a 2A!

    • JonsOn January 8, 2021, 11:04 am

      The democrat party is exactly why we have the 2nd amendment.

      • michael January 8, 2021, 5:55 pm

        DAMN RIGHT !

    • Solo January 11, 2021, 7:58 am

      If we keep Trump in power by his Loyalists. Then we would have a real tyrant. One who rules with Supreme powers, bestowed to him by his followers. One who demands loyalty to him alone and not the constitution.

  • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 10:22 am

    Way to go, right wing trolls. You can’t even plan an aborted insurrection without claiming you were outsmarted by nonexistent Antifa thugs who took over your riot and even went so far as having KKK tattoos inked on their bodies. Man, Antifa is really, really good and you are not.

    • John Boutwell January 8, 2021, 1:07 pm

      You may be right son, Antifa is only smart enough for low level drug deals and theft.

      • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 6:40 pm

        News flash, John, I’m not your son. I don’t swim in the shallow end of the gene pool. You kinda missed the point, didn’t you?

    • michael January 8, 2021, 5:57 pm

      Yeah I see tatoos that wash off the next day. That’s what you’re going with ? Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer spoke of in glee, in response to then-president-elect Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies. “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.

  • R. H. January 8, 2021, 10:09 am

    I figured they’d just wait a couple months then declare Biden incompetent and remove him. Then have Harris be president and Hillary be vp. then “remove” Harris and make Hillary president. Now I see they’re gonna kill Biden, blame it on “radical pro-Trump” supporters and then the rest will happen as planned. As well as get martial law and more “gun control” to “protect the people”.

  • Carl LaFong January 8, 2021, 10:02 am

    Horwitz’s “analysis” is as desperate silly as a comment from Emily Tisch Sussman of the Center for American Progress, who said that FORT HOOD MASSACRE was proof that the “good guy with a gun” is a myth.

    The fact that the guns were locked up in an armory means nothing to fanatics like Emily.

    • michael January 8, 2021, 6:01 pm

      And even when issued a firearm you need ammo. Spent many days on guard duty with firearm & no ammo. Only certain installations were you issued ammo.

  • Louie G January 8, 2021, 10:00 am

    Antifa? Election fraud? Proof=zero. Most of the people on this site are scared and looking for a leader who makes them think they are thinking for themselves. In the end, a police officer was murdered by a trump supporter and just cost gun owners some of their best supporters. Trump riled up people with mental problems and got one woman killed and a police officer trying to do his job while other brother officers were taking selfies with criminals. Until you have real proof, keep your opinions to yourself. Proof isn’t opinion, it’s fact.

    • JonsOn January 8, 2021, 11:08 am

      CNN once again is spewing lies. No police died in the capital yesterday. Do we know for a fact that anyone was killed by a Trump supporter and not by an Antifa member dressed to make others think they are Trump supporters. They’ve done it before.

      • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:27 pm

        I heard today the guy died at home from a stroke from a preexisting issue..then the same station is spinning it like someone killed him at the rally. Its all FN BS.

    • Rooster Cogburn January 8, 2021, 12:27 pm

      Well Louie G, sounds like you’ve been listening to the propaganda like a good boy. Look at the Georgia dome video, check out the work of Matt Braynard at the Voter Integrity Project, do a little bit of research before you make a claim there is zero evidence of election fraud. As for Trump being responsible for the protest and people dying you are dead wrong. People are pissed about all the fraud they’ve seen. That’s why they were at the capital. People try blaming all the divisiveness in this country on Trump and that’s just a lie. The legacy media is responsible with there clickbait stories, lies, and purposeful framing and taking out of context stories designed to make people mad. Well it worked, congratulations we are closer to the destruction of this great country then I’ve ever seen. So Louie please zip it up and continue to stay quiet until you’ve investigated the things you speak of and can discuss them without sounding as ignorant as you do in the above comment. Thanks sport

  • Bob January 8, 2021, 9:50 am

    Hey horowitz you are a murderer by association. You want gun control that only puts guns in criminal hands that kills alot of innocent people. I guess you make your money on helpless defenseless citizens. Hope you feel the troubles that unarmed citizens have against a armed criminal when they are not allowed the right of self defense.

  • Dan Crocker January 8, 2021, 9:47 am

    Congress got a taste on January 6th of what the citizens in Atlanta, Bakersfield, Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Des Moines, Denver, Detroit, District of Columbia, Houston, Los Angeles, Louisville, Memphis, Minneapolis, New York City, Phoenix, Portland, Sacramento, San Jose and Seattle experienced last year – just to name a few. They experienced night after night of violence including lootings, arson and murder. But all that was simply called ‘righteous indignation’ by liberal press fools like Cuomo and other liberals.

    People are fed up with their government – who they believe no longer serves them. This latest theft of a presidential election (with nothing being done about it by those in power) was the straw that broke the camel’s back for many. People have lost their faith in the system and they reacted – some violently.

    They had the numbers to clean house, but they weren’t organized and didn’t have the necessary leadership to get it done. Had they been successful, that DC swamp could have been emptied in one fell swoop. Permanently.

    • JonsOn January 8, 2021, 11:14 am

      I think you are wrong about the straw that broke the camel’s back. That will be a gun confiscation bill signed by Joke Biden or Skumballa Harris. The 2nd amendment doesn’t say “Shall not be infringed unless democrats think it should”. When they enact gun control we will have a choice: lay down our arms and live in servitude for generation or say HELL NO and fight against this tyranny which was put in power by fraudulent means. Every country in history that has gone down the leftist government control option had to first disarm it’s citizens. This one about to take power will try the same model. It’s about control not safety. Don’t buy their lies. They tell a lot of them.

      • Dan Crocker January 8, 2021, 12:36 pm

        Every camel has a different load limit. Some will roll over with only one straw and let whatever happens – happen. Others will say enough is enough and stomp someone into the dirt. This country got it’s start with the gun and organized patriots who were willing to do whatever it took to win. It just might have to repeat the effort in order to ensure this republic survives.

    • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 11:34 am

      Gee, Dan, sounds like you’re okay with overthrowing the U.S. government. So how does your sedition differ from that of communists/socialists/rads who want the same thing? Oh, I get it, you’re good and they’re evil. Clear thinking on your part.

      • Firegoat January 10, 2021, 12:55 pm

        The legit government is the people.
        For the people and by the people.

  • hippybiker January 8, 2021, 9:43 am

    When the ChiComs took power, according to a Missionary, they were very kind and helpful. Then they told the people. “You don’t need your guns. Give them to us and we’ll protect you. Once the people were disarmed, we learned what real Bolshevik Terror was all about!”
    It is estimated that the ChiComs murdered 75-100 million of their own people. Mostly Christians and political dissidents! Is this the future America is looking at? Never give up your guns and mistrust anyone who would promulgate that ridiculous idea!

  • dynastyeric2011 January 8, 2021, 9:43 am

    It is funny that the most deadly weapon in history is, has and always will be overlooked. The PEN truly is mightier than the sword. Almost every death in the 600 years was caused by a stroke of the pen. A pen in the hands of a radical or extremists who is not capable of seeing past their own fears or opinions and accepting that other people have the right to feel the opposite and have the right to be able to feel safe and protect themselves is too much for them to grasp. They are stuck on the thought that everyone must be treated equally, while it is a great idea it is also impossible. I have no problem with respecting others and their opinions, I just wish it was a two way street. Transgender people make up less than 1% of the population but these people are allowed to play sports in school based on the gender they identify with which now takes away the rights of that real gender group. While I agree that these people are not always treated with respect and fairly in this world their rights do not trump the right of the majority. If this is a democracy then how can you ignore the rights of 150 million females and young girls and say it is equal rights? I guess what I’m saying is this, if you don’t like firearms than don’t own them but you do not have the right to decide that for me and other like me.

  • Bryan January 8, 2021, 9:40 am

    Americans haven’t even begun to revolt, we have been pushed to the brink by anti-American democrats, leftists, socialists, Antifa, and BLM…the list goes on. Keep poking with that big stick and you’ll eat it in the end…

  • Big Al 45 January 8, 2021, 9:09 am

    Horwitz is a well known liar, he has inflated and flat out misrepresented stats on ‘gun violence’ for years, so this lie is certainly nothing new for him.
    Just look at some of his speeches and comments, across the board, his Mantra is ‘whatever’ to achieve his goals.

  • George McFly January 8, 2021, 8:43 am

    Yup……time to wake up and fight the real threats.

  • Bob January 8, 2021, 8:34 am

    I have never seen at any Trump rally people wearing helmets. Why that day ? Individuals armed with batons and shields and other protective gear. Let the investigation continue. I’m willing to bet Antifia or other left wing groups infiltrated and deliberately started these horrific actions.

    • Rusty January 8, 2021, 9:29 am

      Derrick Evans, a Republican West Virginia State Delegate, did JUST THAT!!

      I very much doubt he is a Republican Delegate who is REALLY an antifa operative.

      He even FILMED HIMSELF!!

      • Rick H January 8, 2021, 10:11 am

        Yeah but he’s a politician so we already know he’s an idiot.

        • Chris January 11, 2021, 11:03 am

          Touché, sir

    • Joe January 8, 2021, 9:41 am

      Who is going to investigate? FBI, Capitol police? You trust the government and deep state? It will only show what they favor. We need a President and Congress to strip away some of these powers. A Sheriff and Constable are only stated in The Constitution, not federal government law enforcement agencies. I fear and doubt this will ever happen. As the last President that tried was assassinated, Pres. Kennedy.

  • Lorne Litke January 8, 2021, 8:29 am

    Fat cat politicians need to look in the mirror. Of the people,by the people,for the people. Citizens are fed up with folks who only care about themselves. Their re-election and lining their pockets. Trump tried but all that was accomplished was a few law abiding citizens saw the light. The rest fought him tooth and nail. All the time ,effort, and taxpayer money was wasted on ridiculous democratic claims.

    So Biden can open the borders and we tax payers will support immigrants that are a burden on society. Oh as a bonus I am certain they will vote for him.

    This country is on the brink of CRUMBLING.

    • Alex January 8, 2021, 8:58 am

      This country began fracturing when the pustule Lyndon Johnson acceded o the Whitte House, and was lost when the Clintons and the Magic Negro fouled that edifice.

      Secession NOW.

      • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 2:27 pm

        Gee, Alex, nothing racist and hateful in your comments. Oh, yeah, and BTW, secessionists are traitors. But not you, you’re a proud patriot. Wait … gotta go. Getting a secret message from Q.

        • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:36 pm

          The problem is…laws mean nothing to those people. They do whatever they can get away with with the help of other criminals and Fake News sponsors. Biden would not even pass a background check for a security clearance. His son is a dope addict and pedophile. His whole family is a crime family yet they stuck him in as if he can do some good for this country. He will sell it out this country wholesale now if we let it.

        • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:42 pm

          DemocRATS, the party started by Slave holders..for Slave holders. The party who’s members started the KKK, the party that blocked school house doors from blacks in the 50s, the party that started Jim Crow Laws, the party of segregation. After they killed Kennedy, Pres. Johnson a known racist got smart when he said..” Give those NiQQQers Welfare and we will have them voting democRAT for the next 200 years.” About 150 to go.

          • Solo January 11, 2021, 8:14 am

            Sledge,
            I’m sorry but you have your history misinterpreted.
            It was more about the southern states than political parties.

            And you have to ask yourself today who does the KKK support today and what political parties do they support today. Who flying the Confederate battle flag today?

            Open a book.

  • FAL Phil January 8, 2021, 8:21 am

    Let’s see…

    They didn’t throw bricks and rocks and chunks of pavement through windows.

    They didn’t burn any buildings down.

    They didn’t shoot anybody.

    I guess if they had done those things, it would have been a “mostly peaceful demonstration” like the ones in Portland last year.

    • Rusty January 8, 2021, 9:34 am

      Not rocks, but a stolen police shield, flag poles, and crow bars were used, on our national CAPITOL !!! While Congress was in JOINT SESSION!!!

      Clearly NOT the same!!

      How many pipe bombs were planted in our NATIONAL CAPITOL during the BLM horsepucky??

      I am not defending the BLM stuff, but to use it as an excuse for this just lowers our cause to their level!!

      • Rick H January 8, 2021, 10:14 am

        You got part of that right. The pipe bombs were “planted”. We just don’t know by whom…..

        • crosley January 8, 2021, 11:40 pm

          Wow. Really? If the FBI links them to Trump supporting rioters, some folks here will claim it is part of a deep state conspiracy.

      • Frank January 8, 2021, 10:29 am

        You’re omitting a rather significant difference. Even IF The People damaged a few inconsequential items, THEY BUILT THE D@MN PLACE. It belongs to The People, and the so-called “representatives” therein, work for and are answerable to The People. There were NO private businesses damaged or destroyed, and no private citizens assaulted or murdered except for the unarmed Air Force Veteran who was was executed by a worthless coward.

        • crosley January 8, 2021, 11:54 pm

          Private property unoccupied at night is more valuable than our one and only nearly sacred Capitol, the symbol and working place of the essence of our democracy? Do you think that because it’s a public property and had public workers in it at the time, it was acceptable to forcibly enter it, disrupt proceedings, damage public property, disrupt the nation’s business, put elected public servants in harm’s way and in distress? What is wrong with you?

          By your reasoning, the Feds shouldn’t have fenced the Federal Courthouse in Portland nor had armed Feds guarding it and pushing back demonstrators. The Feds, the police and Trump should have just let ’em in. After all, there is a rather significant difference.

      • Ashley Rose January 8, 2021, 10:35 am

        All those things were done by ANTIFA infiltrators you moron; go get an enema between the ears.

        • Rusty January 8, 2021, 10:53 am

          Derrick Evans is Antifa?? I thought he was a newly elected Republican delegate to West Virginia.

          Guess I was wrong. I will start referring to him as antifa, now.

          Are you saying there wasn’t even ONE Trump supporter who entered the Capitol??

          Were they forced in??

  • Lee Harant January 8, 2021, 8:05 am

    This Horowitz clown is just another tool of the left to disarm and control the populus. I dont recall the NRA going out all over the country and promoting this Stop the Steal Rally. Staw Men are the favorite of the left because their followers are to brain dead to know anything else. If the eft says one thing think the opposite of that will be true.
    Left: NRA and gun owners responsible
    Truth: Antifa and leftist thugs bent on destruction of the USA

  • Eugene Ross January 8, 2021, 8:02 am

    you people are a bunch of sick stupid an igorant miss informed idiots

    • JohnZ January 8, 2021, 10:03 am

      Your grammar, incorrectly spelled word and lack of punctuation betrays your ignorance. Try losing the emotion, and getting correct information.

    • Rick H. January 8, 2021, 10:39 am

      With no other qualifying information than that, the same could be said about you.

  • Recce1 January 8, 2021, 7:43 am

    I can’t see a true American patriot with respect for OUR flag using it as a battering tool. Antifa, BLM, Good Ole CSA boys, YES; American patriotic conservatives, NO.

  • Bones January 8, 2021, 7:24 am

    Lies,misinformation, conspiracy theories, tricked and conned by deceit,dividing rhetoric, fear mongering from delusional , despicable leaders destroys our democracy , our security and the foundation of TRUTH…without the TRUTH we have no republic.. and ultimately no freedom and liberty…so dont believe what you hear.. and maybe half of what you see.. research,verify ,and educated yourself to make an informed decision…learn what is actually real and what isnt.. and dont be blind crazy eyed scared sheep.. grow a set… and evolve…

    • Rooster Cogburn January 8, 2021, 12:37 pm

      Good advice, preach Bones preach

  • Harry Rowell January 8, 2021, 7:01 am

    It’s over for this country the socialist that pulled off this voter fraud have destroyed our country they will do away with the electoral college and pack the Supreme Court with leftist radicals there never will be a Republican President ever again it will be like Nazi Germany all over again history repeats itself God must save this once great country

    • Recce1 January 8, 2021, 7:45 am

      They’ll also add DC and PR as States and end much of the Bill of Rights.

    • Barnjoer January 8, 2021, 8:09 am

      Correct!! George Soros packing the Democrats who are backing Antifa and BLM Or out to turn this country into a socialist nation.

    • Bryan Williams January 8, 2021, 8:24 am

      To late now, The republicans laid down. It’s over.

      • Bryan January 8, 2021, 9:34 am

        Laid down and waving a white flag on a stick…disgusting…

      • sledge January 8, 2021, 9:50 pm

        The only one willing to fight was Trump. Everyone else stabbed him in the back. POS Ted Cruz stabbed him today when he publicly blamed Trump for Capitol takeover. The Capital takeover was a staged ANTIFA event that congress knew about. NPR news even got caught when they accidently released an article of the takeover of the Cap. at 9:30AM even before the rally!! They quickly took it down but got caught. Not a peep out of Fake News. I saw the actual print on the internet. Probably still there somewhere if you search for it.

    • LT Bruno January 8, 2021, 9:14 am

      No Mr. Williams the Republican polititions laid down Sir, not the Patriots. It is not over, not by a long shot. Your vote no longer counts, your voice no longer heard, your actions and your resolve are what you have left. Your country and your family need that from you now.

      • John Z January 8, 2021, 10:08 am

        Things did not look so good for us in 1776 either. But with God’s help then and now, we will prevail (though the cost may be high).

    • Rusty January 8, 2021, 9:40 am

      You do realize the Nazi Faccist movement/government in Germany was a FAR RIGHT movement, right??

      There DOES need to be some reform of the Electoral College, EACH congressional district should elect an elector, ala Maine and Nebraska. This puts the winner-take-all out of the equation for huge populated states, and forces federal representatives to pay more attention to rural areas of those states.

      Remember, Republicans lost Popular vote in 2016, AND 2000, but still got presidency…

    • Dan Crocker January 8, 2021, 9:50 am

      History shows us that all empires eventually fall. And the process usually starts from within.

      The Democrats now have at least two years to force their agenda on us. I just hope we can survive at least that long.

  • graceythecat January 8, 2021, 6:28 am

    Yes the only people that had guns there were the Capital Police, which in another episode during the barak obamma era, shot and killed another unarmed mother with her baby in the car seat. They need more training.

  • Steve in Detroit January 8, 2021, 6:19 am

    I thought the same as I watched black clad violent protesters with back packs, not typical Trump supporter. And I will further ad that No NRA member would ever “Storm” the Capitol.

    • deanbob January 8, 2021, 7:51 am

      The peaceful MAGA rally was infiltrated and co-opted by anarchists:
      – According to a former FBI agent on the ground at the US Capitol, at least one bus load of Antifa infiltrated the Trump rally as part of a false flag operation’;
      – Video has surfaced of Capitol police removing barriers holding back Trump supporters yesterday which allowed them to enter the Capitol.
      – From Zero Hedge: Why Was Founder Of Far-Left BLM Group Filming Inside Capitol As Police Shot Protester?
      – Dr Gina from Real America’s Voice saw several people with Hammer and Sickle, and Swastika tattoos on their hands; –
      – 1 man overheard 2 or 3 men in front of him talking about smashing windows as they approached the Capital building; others reported people who had the MAGA clothes but also had the helmets typically seen worn in the Antifa Portland videos.

      • crosley January 8, 2021, 11:34 pm

        I bet that’s true because you made it up and stated it here. No other proof needed. Unfortunately, some dimwits who read this article and the comments will simply “believe” your statements. That’s just great, isn’t it?

    • Barnjoer January 8, 2021, 8:11 am

      Exactly !! Antifa & BLM Infiltrated the Trump supporters and are the ones that started all this rioting and attacking Congress. Until we bring back corporal punishment hanging by the neck until dead for violent crimes this will continue.

    • Rusty January 8, 2021, 9:43 am

      It wasn’t like the Trump supporters were “Forced” into walking thru the Capitol, after it was breached. They made a choice, whether to enter, or not.

  • Yogi Quint January 8, 2021, 5:41 am

    So, your sources for your assertion that left-wing agitators incited the D.C. insurrection is:

    1) Some guy writing on Twitter to Alex Jones whose account was taken down.

    2) A photo showing rioters dressed in black – – – and therefore, ergo, Antifa members[?] – – – despite their wearing headgear with “Trump” printed on it and carrying the “Don’t tread of me” Trumpist flag?

    3) A Washington Times report that facial recognition software identified two of the rioters as Antifa members (retracted.)

    4) A completely unsupported claim by a Trumpist congressman.

    And you combined separate statements by an anti-gun activist to substantiate you claim that he accused the NRA of being responsible for the insurrection. He didn’t.

    Calling this article “insubstantial” is hardly adequate.

    • Rob January 8, 2021, 7:39 am

      There’s a photo of a antifa member stealing a congress podium and was photographed in a antifa crowd.

      • crosley January 8, 2021, 11:30 pm

        Sure, everyone should believe that because you stated it.

    • M. James January 8, 2021, 8:01 am

      In response to your ridiculous explanation of the the Gadsden “Don’t Tread on Me Flag”
      The symbolism in the flag partnered by the image holds deep meaning. Basically, the “Don’t Tread on Me” phrase combined with the snake ready to strike is a warning. This tells people not to step on or take advantage of the Americans or they will strike. Unfortunately, it appears that different groups and individuals throughout the country, interpret the symbol to mean a whole lot of other things besides its original intent

      • Yogi Quint January 9, 2021, 1:19 pm

        @ M. James

        Trumpist have appropriated the Gadsden Flag as an icon of their movement. It has been present in every Right-Wing “demonstration” that I have seen, large or small. As it was present at the Capitol insurrection on Wednesday, only one of thousands of proofs that these low-lows were all Trump true believers.

    • Barnjoer January 8, 2021, 8:14 am

      And we can tell by your statement that you are a millennial idiot probably member of antifa or black lives matter
      Uneducated to what is really taking place in this country. Never learned history because it is about to repeat itself.

    • Joe January 8, 2021, 8:23 am

      Your argument is just to refute everything he said with no substantial evidence either. Go trust the media and internet you ignorant fool…

      • crosley January 8, 2021, 11:29 pm

        He didn’t do any such thing. He challenged the sources of the information. Just because someone like Gaetz or Jones says “antifa did it” doesn’t make the statement true and put the burden on someone to disprove it, you troll.

    • Common sense - never mind no such thing January 8, 2021, 8:26 am

      What did you expect the Trump supporters to say after the nation condemned them for what they did? You didnt expect them to stand up like men and say yes I did it…did you? Trump wouldn’t do that so you shouldn’t expect them to either.

      This article and the actions of those rioters represents the same thing we have been seeing for the last 4 years.

    • T-Road January 8, 2021, 8:55 am

      “2) A photo showing rioters dressed in black – – – and therefore, ergo, Antifa members[?] ”
      So by your own logic, just because someone is wearing a MAGA hat and waving a “don’t tread on me” flag, which has roots in our revolutionary war, it doesn’t mean he’s not a n Antifa supporter ? Ya can’t have it both ways, or you have to have it both ways,,,,, Which is it ?

    • Mike K. January 8, 2021, 9:03 am

      Amen, brother! This vast conspiracy and half assed fever dream “reporting” needs to end. Why do so many on the “Right” continue spread lies and falsehoods about the election, Q-ANON and Democrats in general. 5 people died and we had a major assault on our democracy by those people who claim to want to uphold it. What purpose does it serve. Finally shame on you S.H. BLANNELBERRY. You need to stop your non-sense, you are equally complicit in spreading and reaffirming a delusional Presidents hatred of what a true democracy is. Stick to writing about guns and leave the politics to people who actually know what they are talking about.

      • allblues January 8, 2021, 1:44 pm

        Since we do not, have never had, and by the grace of God never will have a true democracy, I suggest you take your own advice and leave the politics to people who actually know what they’re talking about.

    • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 10:32 am

      Yogi,

      What are you doing on this site? It’s clear you can read, think and probably have all your teeth.

      • allblues January 8, 2021, 1:47 pm

        I thought liberals were opposed to stereotyping. I was misinformed.

        • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 6:48 pm

          Allblues, I’m no lib but it looks like you’re a snowflake. Tough guy can dish it but can’t take it. Boo-hoo.

    • Proud Goy January 8, 2021, 10:38 am

      Yogi,

      What are you doing on this site? You can read, think and probably have all your teeth.

  • John January 8, 2021, 5:37 am

    This was a coup attempt by the president and his supporters.

    • Rob January 8, 2021, 7:40 am

      The ignorance from you and the rest of the left is truly amazing.

    • Dr Motown January 8, 2021, 8:03 am

      A “coup” without overwhelming firepower and organization? LMFAO! Keep drinking the media kool-aid, dude. They want to distract you from the real agenda: statehood for PR and DC, which effectively turns this country into an all-powerful 1-party system. THAT’S the REAL COUP and it’s happening right in front of your blind eyes

    • Barnjoer January 8, 2021, 8:16 am

      John you are so full of shit you stink! Trump had nothing to do with anything except try to get this country back on tract. I am guessing you are on welfare and sit at home on your ass.

    • Pete Faz January 8, 2021, 8:29 am

      Actually it was the Antifa /BLM terrorist arm of the traitor Democrat party that was rioting

      • Rusty January 8, 2021, 9:52 am

        Like Atifa member Derrick Evans, delegate from the great state of West Virginia??

    • Robert January 8, 2021, 10:02 am

      How can be so stupid. Oh my mistake your one of those leftist commie’s and a antifa member.

  • Billy Spence Jr January 8, 2021, 5:31 am

    This incident reeks of Antifa, but, as with the voter fraud that spurred the rally to begin with, the leftwing media has no interest in the truth. Trump felt pressure to concede because of this violence. That was the goal of the left in staging this act. Now they want to brand all Trump (and NRA) supporters as a bunch of insurrectionists? Sickening. Red states need to grow a pair and tell them where to go quickly. We need to get out in front of this.

    • Alex January 8, 2021, 9:04 am

      Red states need to begin secession work NOW. We don’t need “fellow” citizens like Democrats.

      • Rick H. January 8, 2021, 10:49 am

        Remember we all, Republicans and Democrats alike, live in the same states. My state recently turned blue but I’m NOT leaving it. If we all did that, every state would end up like California. The conservatives left that state and now look at it. I’ll stay in my state and try to help it get back to red.

  • Dennis Orr January 8, 2021, 5:18 am

    Trump supporters need to be ready and willing to take down the Antifa moles among their gatherings the moment they reveal themselves. It needs to be done people!

  • Ronnie January 8, 2021, 4:11 am

    This is a DAM LIE.

  • DC January 8, 2021, 3:20 am

    U bet.. It was all in purpose so the next “administration” can go after the second amendment because it provokes their new favorite bullshit word “domestic terrorist”

  • Barry D Thomas Sr January 8, 2021, 3:13 am

    At least one person had Video of 5 white Buses of Antifa Arriving at theCapital under POLICE ESCORT,after they unloaded the buses wee taken away.

    • Bob January 8, 2021, 7:44 am

      That’s old news and the video of those busses was from Minneapolis back in December.

  • Jay January 8, 2021, 2:33 am

    For many years now I’ve said this country needs another civil war and it’s fitting that this is the best we get.

    This wasn’t insurrection this was a temper tantrum.

    • Dan Crocker January 8, 2021, 9:58 am

      History does repeat itself. I fear that we are headed for a second civil war. Only it won’t be the North against the South this time. It will be Republicans against the Democrats.

      If it happens, armed enclaves will form. Gunfire will rule the streets. The weak and unprepared will suffer and die. Only the strong will survive and they won’t give a damn about law and order. That concept will be a thing of the past.

      Our enemies (China, Russia, Iran, North Korea et al) will watch like vultures waiting for us to die so they can come in and gather the spoils.

      Our standing on the world stage will crumble. Our credit rating will tank and the world bank will either cancel us or reduce our credit rating to nothing. China will call in their markers and when we can’t pay, they will demand other ‘solutions’ like parking some of their warships and military hardware on US bases here and abroad. That will only be the beginning.

      Kruschev had it right when he said there would be no need to put Russian boots on American soil. We would destroy ourselves while he watched. It just took a lot longer than what he envisioned.

      The only hope I have is in our military. Many are conservative folks who won’t stand by while their families and loved ones are put to the torch. I think there will be dissension within the ranks like we’ve never seen. The men and women on the front lines won’t do the bidding of the politically biased brass. I could be wrong, but then I could be right. Time will tell I guess. It usually does.

      • TomD January 8, 2021, 12:30 pm

        It makes me ill to agree with you, Dan, but I’m not sure there is a viable alternative. A cold civil war has been on in America since 1965 or so. The Left has figured out how to implement its agenda by turning everything our country has stood for on its head via “political correctness” and “NewSpeak” a la Orwell’s 1984. I don’t see how the socialists in power simply shut down our right to bear arms and confiscate or tax them out of existence without a struggle.

        We are divided ideologically virtually 50-50 as a nation in ways that cannot be peacefully reconciled.

        Thanks to the Marxist revolution in education that has been ongoing for the past 50+ years, with “educators” self-selected from the ranks of politial radicals, the poisonous diet of socialist rhetoric has been almost all young people have heard and continue to hear until they leave “college” (with degrees in “gender studies”, “white privilege”, “climate change”, and other laughable “majors” unheard of even a few decades ago), heads filled with “belief” in emotionalized, politicized “science” and “political science”. I think my double-quote key is going to break soon, but take a moment and imagine if we were graduating students in STEM specializations as China, India, Japan, and other nations do. Five-year-old children in these (and most other) countries are not propagandized to believe they can “choose their own sex”, high schoolers are not taught that their country is evil, and college students actually have to achieve in order to graduate. Imagine that!

        We’re in grave danger, as Dan has said. I really wish I thought otherwise and could tell him so – but I cannot.

    • Sam January 8, 2021, 2:23 pm

      Any person who appears to want war like you, civil or otherwise, has to be a complete fool or utterly naive regarding the death, injury, hardships, and horror that comes with war. If the U.S. experiences another civil war, which I certainly hope it never does, maybe you’ll do the world a favor and be one of the first to be counted among its casualties.

      • TomD January 8, 2021, 7:56 pm

        Sam,
        Anyone who wants a war, or even a major skirmish, on US soil is indeed foolish or worse. The first “Civil War” (or “War Between the States”) was a ghastly affair that resulted in the deaths of 620,000 combatants, 2% of the population of the Union and the Confederacy.

        Apparently, the country could find no other way to effect a reconcilement of two vastly different ideologies.

        Although I think Dan’s predictions may come true, I believe strongly (as I think you do) that they are not to be desired by any sane American.

        However, now tell me, what way will we find to reconcile the seemingly-unreconcilable 50-50 ideological divide in the US today? The Left will not give up on its stated goals of abrogating our rights under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, nor will it ever, ever, ever give up its firmly-pursued goal of compelling us to obey its dictates where we cannot be persuaded or accept less than total submission to its destruction of morality and values.

        The stated desire of BLM and Antifa – terrorist adjuncts of the Democrat party – is the elimination of the nuclear family, Christian belief, American history, culture, and traditions, and the US Constitution.

        I’d be happy if my assessment above is wrong. But what will the tens of millions of Americans who will not accept a Socialist, globalist, or anarchist tyranny do if Dan and I are right?

        • Rybcage January 10, 2021, 8:01 pm

          If some of us could imagine how we would feel if the sides were reversed? What if John Carey, Al Gore, Obama or any democrat had said to groups of BLM or mobs of ANTIFA boogeymen to head to the Capitol to overturn the election that “it will be a wild time” how many of you would be so vocal about who stole that election. How many of us would be so ready to believe such claims. It takes guts and patience to follow the Constitution especially when you feel disenfranchised because the guy you voted for did not win. Why do you think this election was any more questionable than the one that got Trump elected to begin with? Because you voted for him it wasn’t? Now social media allows anyone to fling accusations of fraud much of which is just as likely based on lies put up by sore losers and garbage planted by Russian, Chinese, Iranian operatives. We are all American though we disagree about some very important points. Would you disparage your mother or brother for such things over Mr Trump? Maybe some would but he’s just a man you don’t really know other than what he wants you to know. You don’t know what’s in his heart but have attached so much allegiance that you have lost your willingness to follow our constitution. Hes one man, not God, not king, not worth destroying our country over. Please! Take a moment to breathe, think. We are all in one country if we can keep it so! These things are supremely important but not worth civil unrest, and murdering each other.

          • Chris January 11, 2021, 11:14 am

            This comment right here. Funny how the arguments for this election being “stolen” are very similar to the ones being used by Hillary supporters in 2016 when she didn’t win. Y’all, just because the person you voted for didn’t win doesn’t mean it was stolen. It doesn’t mean there was “widespread voter fraud” or “Russian interference.” It just means you lost. No more, no less. Indeed it seems that many rabid Trump supporters are exactly the same as the rabid Hillary supporters of 2016, except they have an R next to their names instead of a D.

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