A design rendering of the bullpup conversion kit. (Photo: JTT/HTA)
Correction: High Tower Armory informed us that the projected price for the bullpup kit will only be $199. The kit and a carbine combined are expected to run buyers around $500 in total.
High Tower Armory is working on a bullpup conversion kit for the unlikeliest of pistol-caliber carbines, Hi-Point rifles. The kit shortens the overall length of the gun while giving it a welcome makeover.
Hi-Point carbines are uncomplicated, easy to find and generally inexpensive. They’re popular for shooting at the range and for anyone looking for an affordable carbine for protection. Hi-Point carbines are chambered for 9mm Luger, .40 S&W and .380 and .45 ACP.
These carbines are simple and have a good reputation for reliability and durability. But you don’t have to try hard to find someone to bash them based on looks alone. Not only will this kit add functionality to the base rifle, it gives it a much more sleek and modern appearance.
According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $199.
“It may not be your cup of tea but there is likely a market for this conversion,” said Matt. It could be a solid improvement to a carbine that performs beyond its price point.”
A pistol-caliber bullpup makes a lot of sense for home protection, in addition to being a fun plinker or brush rifle. The shortened length makes it easier to use in tight spaces, which is one of the main reasons to get a bullpup in the first place. But being chambered for pistol cartridges is another advantage as they make much less noise, indoors especially, compared to more powerful rifle cartridges.
Carbines also give shooters the option of using much hotter ammo than they would normally use in a handgun. This bullpup kit bridges the gap between pistol and intermediate-caliber rifle.
With their longer barrels carbines also offer superior ballistics compared to the same rounds fired out of handguns. And with the High Tower Armory kit’s rail for red dot sights and other optics users should expect to see improved accuracy on their part as well.
See Also: Cheap Guns: Hi-Point 45ACP Tactical Carbine–4595TS Review
In addition to adding a flat-top rail for optics, the conversion kit has a 6-o’clock rail for foregrips and weapon lights.
From these design renderings, it looks like the High Tower Armory kit uses Hi-Point magazines, which isn’t bad. Hi-Point now manufactures magazines with up to 20-round capacities. That’s a little shy compared to other rifles and carbines but it’s great by pistol standards.
High Tower Armory might even feel the urge to get into making their own improved Hi-Point magazines. The company has a good rep for their line of Ruger 10/22 FN-style bullpup conversion kits and extended magazines.
If this kit works well and has even a half-decent trigger it’s likely to make a lot of Hi-Point shooters very happy. And if it looks as good in real life as it does in these drawings then it will probably make brand new Hi-Point owners wig out of even more.
So how do I buy a conversion kit for the bullpup 9 mm carbine
Hello, I have a model C 9mm HI-POINT Pistol with a suppressor (older model). I would like to know what kits will fit to make a BULL Pup or something cool and can I leave the suppressor on? Thanks for your time, Aaron. P.S. This will be the first modification on a gun I have ever done!
Are the Hi-point bull pup kits on the market ? It so, where can I buy it ?
Hello and Good Day!
Have you ever had any luck finding the conversion kit? I have written to the manufacturer (propose) yet have not received a reply? The article is over 2 years old now? Would really like to buy own! Makes the Gun look fantastic!
About using Glock mags, the gun would have to use the mags, not the kit. The kit for the .45 should work for the new 10mm as well.
Whoooooo!!!!!!! Good lord!!!! The whole thing ready to shoot (go bang! bang!) is in the $500 buck range.
Bull Pup Conversion $199 or so
Hi-Point carbine $249.00 to $300.00 depending on where ya find one.
Time for a bit of math $448.00 to $500.00 which is a damn good price for anything that’s reliable and accurate on a man size target (in the boiler room) now it wood be VERY COOL if it wood accept Glock mags but oh well it is what it is.
Now as far as the price of the rifle where im from in N.C i have seen em for as low as $229.98 to as high as $319.99 so thats where my ciphering is coming from.
Hello:) will the bull pup conversion kit fit my hi point m995ts? Thank you
It fits all Hi Point Carbines from .380 and 9mm thru all the TS models up to 10mm
This kit is a great idea, also like the thought about adapted extended mags. I have a redball 20rd and it appears that in the design photo HTA would shorten the mag well and make it less functional with my after market mags because the redball mags have a plastic molding in the middle that inserts up to the bottom of the pistol grip making them more stable. I have been considering installing an uzi style buttstock/plate but I think I’ll wait to see this kit when it comes out.
I think $199 is a good price, $300 is more than i paid for the rifle, you’ll sell a ton of these at $199. i’ll buy one immediately and i know a guy who sells Hi Points he will surely recommend these to his customers.
At $300 for the gun and $250 for the stock, thats under $600 for a dependable 6 lb bull pup. Compare that to a Tavor weighing 10 lbs at $1900. The Stocks are here, Go order one!
Great idea, with some concerns.. I own the 4595 carbine, and knowing how it functions inside, I am concerned about all the long rods for the trigger, safery and mag release. All that linkage, making it more complicated may as well affect its reliability. And as a “kit”, not too many have the talent or expertise to make the conversion themselves.
What about a large capacity mag for the 995 carbine are their any out there?
Red Ball makes a 20 round clip for the 995ts and it works great. Bought mine months ago and have fired over 200 rounds with no FTFs. It’s also endorsed by Hi Point since it won’t damage the gun the way the Pro Mags do and won’t void Hi Point’s lifetime warranty either.
It really take American ingenuity to make the original monkey gun uglier, but it\’s been done.
God bless America.
I don’t get it either. It looks like they shaved maybe 3 or 4 inches off the stock, but moved the trigger 10 or so inches forward. All bullpups I’ve seen before remove nearly all of the shoulder stock length to make the rifle significantly shorter, but this clearly did not.
The HTA Bullpup conversion is just over 26 inches overall. Shorter requires federal permits…
the breech is 10 inches behind the trigger, thus shortening the weapon dramatically, if you look, the action is under the chin now instead of in front. bullpups look strange but when you handle one and see how maneuverable they are, you’ll probably like it.
I want one.
If they make them to take glock mags.
They’ll be making a fortune selling all they can make. I’d buy one in 45acp for my wife
Hey guys great article! Just for everyone’s info- the price on this stock will be $200-300 (hopefully less). The ENTIRE package, rifle and stock will end up costing the shooter about $500. That’s where that price came from. Hope that helps!
Andy and the team at High Tower Armory, LLC
Now that seems a whole lot more reasonalble now itd just take glock mags ud sell 1000s of em
Any idea on release date?
Does anybody have the answer to win the stock may be available? I just got a high point carbine and a longer top rail. But if I’m going to put it in a stock like this there’s no need for me to install the real now
The Stocks are here, Go order one!
Any update on availability??
how soon B/4 this hi point stock hits the market? I already need 3.
April or May of this year.
Can i get on a waiting list for purchase ??? I would love to get one early and test it out . also are the stocks going to fit the .380 , 45 carbines for sure ??? If so i will definitely buy one . i own all three calibers. Please respond soon . imndrooling over it already !!!
Think about the money: Kel-Tec sub2000 (9mm, 40); Beretta Storm carbine (9mm, 40); CZ scorpion evo 9mm, Thureon 9mm;
Judge tactical (410, 45). All under the price of this kit plus the gun. On their website they sell the 22 ROGER kit for 300 plus whatever that rifle runs? Just Sayin
I think you’re missing the whole point here. It’s like people are discussing a VW GTI and your comparing Ford f-150’s. This is a bullpup, not even comparable to any rifle you listed besides that they’re rifles that shoot handgun calibers.
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Why not go with the modern replicas of the WW2 era .30 cal M1 Carbine instead? Available with the paratrooper style folding wire / pistol grip stock if you really want a compact intermediate power rifle that is good to 200 yards. With the far improved Hornady expanding FTX ammo it is far better than with FMJ ammo. It has twice the muzzle energy of the pistol caliber carbines, and fires fairly cheap FMJ ammo for target practice. Mine has a combo weapon light / bright green laser mounted under the barrel for quick / poor light condition shooting, and a 4X Mildot scope sight on top for accurate shooting. With proper magazines a very deadly lightweight rifle that is a joy to shoot.
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John Bibb
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The .30 carbine is great, had a few love them. However, a carbine in the same round as your carry pistol is a fantastic combo. Not many people carry a hand gun in .30 carbine.
Ruger did.. Had one ,reloaded myself and used it for deerhunting. Great combo!
Don’t know if Ruger still makes the 30 carbine model
today. Now I have the 995ts
and Taurus 92 .
Because the Chiappa M1 Carbine replicas that shoot 9mm are complete crap every review I have read….bummer actually as I wanted one…oh well my 4095 is great.
The “Jerking the Trigger” article says “High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500.”
Now, this article says “According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $500”. Two different things, and I don’t blame people for being confused. To me, a “kit” is something you add TO a firearm, not the assembled firearm and the add-on.
Ok so apparently some can’t read as it states the cost is INCLUDING the Hi-Point rifle itself. I will buy two, one in 9mm one if .45 especially if it comes with the ability to add any AR trigger we want. I’d love to drop in my FOSTECH Echo Trigger and make this a cheap range / home defense gun that my wife and daughters can handle accurately with automatic firing power. AR’s, +P .45acp pistol and shotguns are simply too much for them to handle (small women).
If they ever get around to accepting high cap mags I’m in. If they would accept Glock mags I’m in. Make a 10mm I’m in
Me too glock or colt mags and a 10mm option this thing would be sick
Can’t you people do simple math! Total price is $500 minus $300 carbine = $200! And that’s a good price for a bull pup conversion stock anytime!
wait, the gun (meaning action, barrel, etc.) come with this “conversion kit”? where did you hear that? why would they call it a conversion kit if it comes with the gun itself?
conversion kite are for people who already have the gun, and want to change the appearance/function of the gun (like ruger 10/22 kits, Remington 700 kits/chassis, etc.) where you just take the internals from your own gun and put them in the new receiver.
and if this price was for a full gun, why wouldn’t they include the price of the conversion kits only for people who already own a hi-point carbine? why would they be marketing this towards people who already own hi-point carbines?
No if you already own any of the high point call. 380,9mm,40,or 45 4095 models you already have. Then you can purchase the bull pup stock conversion for around $199. The cost of carbine you’ve already bought is around $300. 300+200=($500)
,a href=”http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2016/10/18/high-tower-armory-bullpup-conversion-for-the/”> The “Jerking the Trigger” article says “High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500.”
Now, this article says “According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $500”. Two different things, and I don’t blame people for being confused. To me, a “kit” is something you add TO a firearm, not the assembled firearm and the add-on.
This is just the price for the conversion kit…then add the price of the carbine and you’re well over $800-900. You have to buy both..it doesn’t come ready to shoot!
No the people that make the kit posted in here and say total gun and kit 500 so 300 gun 200 kit and maybe less
“Tacti-.cool” will sell. I could sell these in my shop.
To spend $500.00 more on a conversion kit for a high point, I would rather invest that money on a GLOCK, S&W, CANICK-TP9, SIG, CZ-75 or any other good quality gun on the market, if you check the amount that you will pay for buy a new carbine between $300 to $400 new on any web side and used on any pawn shop is going to be minimum $280 and you add $500 more for a conversion kit you already turn it into a $700 dollars gun.
I have never considered a Hi-Point anything before I read this article. For $500 ☆☆☆CARBINE INCLUDED (re-read the article)☆☆☆ I would consider it in .45ACP, threaded barrel, naturally. I think that it could be a good deal of fun!
The only reason I don’t have one is the fact they only take 10 round mags .I’ll second the glock magazine suggestion.They would sell off the chart if they made that happen.
If it’s priced at 500 they won’t sell very many. If prices at 300 they will sell some, tons of the trigger is good. 200 and they will sell a lot (even if the trigger is iffy).
The article actually states that the cost of the conversion would be about $500 – INCLUDING the cost of the Hi-Point carbine (around $300).
What a great idea. A $500 stock for a $300 rifle. And now the trigger is even worse than before. Im sure they will sell like hotcakes.
Yes it does seem like a good idea, but as usual the execution is flawed. $500? Come on, few are going to cough up the cash. Hi points sell because they are cheap, with this stock, your in the same price range as a Beretta Storm. A weapon that takes a double stack mag.
No. You didn’t follow the “Jerking the Trigger” link which states:
“High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500. ”
So that would put the price of the kit right around the same price as their current 10/22 conversion kits; $270/
So, take a $300 gun and turn it into a $800 gun. Somewhere there is a purpose being defeated here. I think I would rather buy an $800 gun with some off the shelf accessory options. They may be too proud of this stock kit by far. Why buy a Ford Focus and put a Lincoln body on it.
“On some glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their harts desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” -H.L. Mencken Journalist
…..I would think anyone interested (as I am) would “…..buy a Ford Focus and put a Lincoln body on it…..” because “We” just want to have .380!? I also think you missed “The Point”
…..This article is over 2 years old and “we” still can not find a “Rifle/Bull Pup” manufactured from the get go in .380 (excepting Hi-Point)…..that does not mean the “want” doesn’t exist.
…..Better if you would “refer” everyone here that wants a Bull Pup/Rifle in .380 to the manufacturer that makes one? Or to a company that makes the conversion to do so instead of “ridicule”
Good idea, crazy price. CRAZY price. Sell it for $150 MAX and you would likely have a winner, assuming it works ok.
I have had a Hi-Point 9mm carbine wrapped in the ATI stock (very similar to the Beretta Storm in appearance) for about 7 years now. I have shot everything from 115gn+P to sub-sonic 147gn and 165gn, both open and suppressed. I have only had a handful of stove pipes (likely my fault, as some days it will get 500+ rounds suppressed without cleaning) and have put thousands of rounds through it. I am in no way a Hi-point fan, but I have been impressed with the simplicity of this little carbine. You knock off the goofy looking stock and set it up right, and it really will preform. If these kits come out as rendered, ill probably end up with a second one…
If they make it to take Glock mags, it will be a WINNER!
A beautiful piece. What is the cost and where to buy.?
Firstly, a 9mm carbine is quieter than a 223 or 12 gauge, but with your face that close to the muzzle I don’t think it matters. And secondly, I’m concerned about the trigger. It’s already crap and bullpups have notoriously garbage triggers.