A lot of people who were on the fence about the 2A are starting to come around. The latest example I’ve seen comes from Pam Allen, a resident of South Jordan, UT, who in a letter published in The Salt Lake Tribune acknowledges that the founders and framers’ fears over government tyranny are as relevant today as they were when the Constitution was ratified in 1788.
Allen wrote, “I could see guns used for hunting and for self-defense, with the caveat that military weapons were unnecessary. I could see guns used for target shooting, with the caveat that military weapons should only be owned by and used at commercial shooting ranges.
“But I never could see guns used for a well-regulated militia, and I never could see guns used for protection against tyranny. I always found those far-fetched ideas.
“Well, maybe I was wrong,” she admits.
Allen goes on to posit that we are now living under a tyrannical administration, pointing out how president Trump has mobilized the military to restore law and order, though she of course phrases it differently, accusing him of using soldiers “against the media and peaceful protesters asserting their First Amendment rights.”
She then closes by asking what gun owners plan to do now. “Do they form their own militia to dominate protesters throughout the country, whether peaceful or not? Or do they use their weapons to fight against this tyrannical Trump government?”
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Basically, Allen wants to know if we’re gonna join a despotic president Trump or side with the peaceful citizens marching in the streets against police brutality.
In my opinion, that’s a false choice and misguided assessment of the situation. First, Trump’s marshaling of resources, including military personnel, isn’t tyrannical. It’s an attempt to combat the violent rioters, looters, and vandals that have hijacked the peaceful protests taking place around the country.
I implore anyone who hasn’t already to watch the riot videos on social media, recorded in almost every major city, to see just how ugly the situation has gotten. Things seem to be better now than they were a weekend ago, thanks in part to Trump’s efforts to crack down on rioters, but over that initial Friday, Saturday and Sunday after the George Floyd video went viral everything appeared to be going off the rails. New York City looked like Gotham City from “The Dark Knight,” the Batman movie. It was insanity, a complete breakdown of social order!
Second, gun owners don’t have to choose between president Trump and peaceful protesters. Both are deserving of our support provided they act within the purview of the law, particularly our Constitution.
Trump as the head of state and government must “take care that the laws be faithfully executed”, and “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution,” as the Constitution states. As such, using federal resources and manpower to stop professional agitators and violent lawbreakers who threaten the very stability of our Republic is an appropriate use of power.
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And citizens have the right to peaceably assemble under the First Amendment. No problems there. While gun owners may not agree with the cause of a march, gun owners certainly respect one’s right to protest.
Everything’s kosher when everyone plays by the rules. But the problem is that there are, as mentioned, bad apples out there looking to exploit this moment in history for personal gain and/or to forward some sort of anarchist agenda (in the case of Antifa and other radical organizations).
These are the people that need to be stopped. If we can all — armed Americans and unarmed Americans — agree on that, and we collectively work together toward putting these criminals behind bars then things should return to normal soon enough, and the conversation can resume about what changes, if any, need to be made to address police brutality.
Anyone, whether it is Trump or Obama, who violates the fundamentals of moral freedom, whether those freedoms are noted in the US constitution or not, should simply be ignored. If they persist in violating those god-given freedoms, they should be held accountable by the person they are violating. If the violators are an overwhelming force, then wise neighbors (realizing they are next) should summon all help everywhere possible and end the excursion of the violator. Anyone who makes tyranny about race, or political party is A FOOL of the worst magnitude, and of no use as a human. They should be properly schooled, taught and educated about moral freedom and if unable to see, they should be shunned and shamed.
This country thinks that somehow, if Trump were to do something against our moral freedom it would be okay. I am no Trump hater, but I am a tyranny hater, and I don’t care if it’s Trump, Obama or anyone or any thing else, I will proceed as above!
Oh, and did you all notice that under the Democratic and Republican AND Trump tyranny, every single vestige of freedom was eliminated in the COVID lockdown, and NOT ONE OF YOUR SAVIORS IN ALL OF THE GLOBALLY TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENTS PUT A STOP TO IT!!
Wake-up and realize that you’ve all been duped. There are no parties/politics, there is only the ruling elite. It’s a small club and “YOU AIN’T IN IT!” They already have you where they want you, fighting among yourselves, but NOT against them! I’m sad that it only took one small election to completely shift the “patriots” from “revolution” to government cucks!
Define “moral freedom”? “Morality” isn’t codified in the Constitution. Rules to limit State-directed infringement on society are (1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, etc). I don’t agree with many protestors demands on economics issues. However, as an ardent pro-Constitution/pro-freedom Patriot who’s also a vet I sure as hell don’t want authoritarians in uniform or government brutalizing/murdering folks, to include cops killing unarmed and already restrained suspects and authoritarians using the U.S. military against American citizens.
As a registered Democrat in SW Louisiana (isn’t that hard to imagine), US Army veteran, and gun owner with more weapons than my Republican son, a gunsmith, I must disagree with one of your premises. The image of armed soldiers in full tactical gear blocking access to the Lincoln Memorial without any protesters in sight seems to me to be something I would expect in a 1980’s photo from Argentina or Chile; that was a staged photo op. I am fully comfortable with police officers being supported by the State National Guard where and when necessary. I am not in support of the 82nd Airborne occupying my city. I thought that was the purpose of the 2A.
As a registered Republican in central Oregon I agree completely with you.
Pam Allen hasn’t completed her basic survival instinct course yet. Sad, I don’t think she will graduate. Neither does she know the definition of tyranny, peaceful protest, rioter, looter, personal accountability, self defense, livelihood or property rights.
Pam, when we gun owners gather together for mutual protection against criminal activity we become a militia.
Does Pam recall when all those armed people took possession of a particular state capitol building? There wasn’t the first instance of property destruction or harm to anyone. However the message was clearly delivered without a single shot fired.
That is a peaceful protest with teeth by law abiding gun owning free citizens.
Time to put out a call to arms, minute men assemble in formation. We can win in two weeks, they will starve by then.
AMERICA THE GREAT. I am tired of the bs being put out by the commie media and politicians.
I think that would be a very important discussion to have right now. What would that look like? Who would we follow? Where do we go? Who do we fight? Of course we are terrorists intantly.
The Liberal mindset still can’t encompass the possibility that Liberalism is the threat to civilization, not the efforts to ‘conserve’ it. They can’t be wrong. They just can’t be! They’re more intelligent, wiser and much more sprtitually developed than knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing conservatives. Their silver-haired, pony-tailed professors (that never did a lick of hard labor in their lives) told them so!
Ever note something about these Liberals? An unspoken imperiousness. Think about it. They always say, “Well, I don’t think you should have assault rifles…” Or “I think the 2A is from a more barbarous time and should be done away with!” Always the ‘I” as in ego. As in my opinion counts more than yours. Unconscious elitism.
That’s what really motivates them. HL Mencken had them pegged a century ago. when he sneeringly (rightfully) called them ‘uplifters’. He also said that the desire to save the world is a false-face for the desire to rule it. That is becoming increasingly clearer.
Liberals are Hell’s Road Crew, paving the road to Perdition with their good intentions, always screwing things up and then standing in the ruins with a wide-eyed look, saying “This wasn’t supposed to happen.!” Liberals are like dangerously retarded children whose hands should be kept from anything more technologically advanced than a spoon. Letting them have power over you is why Aristotle said you had to get involved in politics or risk being ruled by your inferiors. The tacit, unspoken part was …or tyrants.
Well said sir!
For some insight into the progressive/SJW mind, by two former SJW types:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmt0qIfeAc&t=163s
I enjoyed that. Ty.
I’m WAY past the point of trying to discern between good protesters and bad ones. Candidly i no longer GIVE a shit.
If they display ANY degree of violent behavior, if the are out AFTER a declared curfew and are wearing masks, to ME they are 7.62 candidates.
I refuse to take on the burden of deciding between the good ones and bad ones, especially after the sun goes down. Dabbling in the gray areas is tactically stupid.
I agree with both of them, if I lived in town I would move my Guns to the house From the safe.
Pam Allen intentionally confuses “peaceful protestors” with criminal looters. To answer her question, she only needs to look at Coeur d’Alene, where the general militia mobilized to protect the protesters from criminal elements that were trying to infiltrate and coopt the demonstration.
My guess is the Seattle autonomous zone is just an attempt to see what and how the response will come so that they can study it and make plans for other cities after the election or before. What Antifa, BLM communists need is another George Floyd, my guess is they will manufacture it. I think they may have already tried by placing a stolen loaded police AR in the hands of a teenage girl all dressed up like Antifa, that was the one that was recovered by the Marine, that girls parents should be kissing that guys ass as he likely saved her life. Notice how theres little or no reporting of the people killed during riots and looting, the guy blown up looting an ATM, the guy run over looting a truck and on and on, it doesn’t suite their agenda and makes them look bad.