Rhode Island banned so-called “ghost guns” this week in an effort to “prevent gun violence.”
Anyone caught with a “ghost gun,” by which they mean 3D printed guns, gun kits with 80 percent lowers, and unserialized firearms, 30 days from now will face up to 10 years in prison and/or a $10,000 fine.
“Banning ghost guns and untraceable firearms in Rhode Island is a major victory, but our work doesn’t end here,” said Gov. Gina Raimondo in a post on Facebook. “We will keep fighting to prevent gun violence in our state.”
(At present, there is no way yet to know how often “ghost guns” are used in crime because neither the DOJ nor the ATF tracks crimes committed with “ghost guns.”)
Last week, the Democratically-controlled General Assembly passed the measure with overwhelming support.
Sen. Cynthia A. Coyne, D-32, who sponsored it claimed that these “guns can easily facilitate criminal activity because they totally bypass the safeguards that protect the public.”
She added, “Our state laws should be very clear that possessing, creating, or selling them is a criminal act, and we should be doing everything we can to keep these dangerous weapons from proliferating here.”
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Owners of “ghost guns” will have 30 days to serialize their firearm after that they become contraband, according to local media. Though, how the state of Rhode Island wants citizens to go about doing this is not exactly clear.
Per the ATF, licensed manufacturers or licensed importers of firearms must mark each firearm with an individual serial number. But firearms made by individuals for personal use do not require serial numbers or identifying markings.
As GunsAmerica reported back in May, gun control advocates launched a nationwide campaign urging lawmakers at all levels of government to “ghost guns.”
Rhode Island has heeded that call. It may be just a matter of time before more states follow suit.
The only thing I can figure out is Democrat’s we’re never breast fed as a child, that’s why they don’t play well with others. Got that hate thing going
Laws are for the law abideing ,criminals don’t give a squat about laws !
These politicians know exactly what they’re doing. They know it won’t make any difference towards solving gun violence. That’s not their objective. Their objective is to virtue signal their SJW status, plain and simple. This gets them accolades from other virtue signaling SJW’s and signals to others of their ilk that they’re in the tribe and qualified for a VP consideration, the next wrung of the political ladder etc….
These idiot politicians just CAN’T GET IT THROUGH THEIR HEADS! It’s obvious to everyone who bothers to LOOK, and to THINK!
1. Pass an anti-gun law, and everybody goes out and gets one before they can’t get one any more. This just means that the “streets” will be even LESS SAFE, because the unwashed liberals who don’t understand guns and gun SAFETY will now be armed!
2. Make it illegal, and people are going to try it; especially the computer-savvy “kids” who will now want to make a 3-D gun on their computers. (And with the newer materials becoming available, those guns are going to become more prevalent and they are going to hold up under use.)
3. CRIMINALS DON’T CARE! A new law isn’t going to deter them.
4. EVEN IF THIS WORKED, it still wouldn’t stop the illegal manufacture of guns. Even at the age when I was in junior high school (early 1960’s) I had already learned how to make gun powder from a book called HENLEY’S FORMULAS which I had borrowed from the local public library, and had actually made some. Add to that, (though I never did) I knew how to make a zip gun in my machine shop at school. — Of course, back then, our public high schools still had rifle clubs, so there was no need to make them. Our rifle clubs had teams and competed in wholesome sports (just like basket ball and foot ball —- with less [no] injuries.) —- POLITICIANS MADE SCHOOL RIFLE TEAMS ILLEGAL, TOO.
Laws are for the law abideing ,criminals don’t give a squat about laws !
I’ve been making about 20 of these per day, mostly .44 Magnum and selling them to some guy named E. Holder and he says that he’s been selling them in Mexico. He says there’s a big market for them down there.
Are they aware that some .22 rifles legally manufactured and legally sold and purchased in the 1920s and early 1930s DIDN’T have serial numbers, this could include semi-automatic as well as single shot rifles. I guess ignorance of the facts is OK if you are an ANTI-GUNNER.
This legislation will do NOTHING to protect the citizens of RI. It’s only purpose is to attempt to put an END to a new cottage industry of “Home Built Pistols”. It will not stop the industry though…as the business will carry on and by simply placing a serial number on the 80% receiver. A very simple process…that also can be done in a few minutes……..Now here is the question….even if the guns are serial numbered….what means does the state have to record and track these numbers. The worst that will happen is that these businesses owners who build these pistols will move their businesses out of RI…..ooooo….now they might have to drive 20 minutes to get to their business…..RI is not that big of a state.
As for the guns that the police confiscated that were without a serial number…….no need for a new law….
There is already a Federal law ( Felony) for the dealer/maker…..you may build a firearm without a serial number legally……but if / when you transfer it to someone else…it must have a serial number and all the appropriate federal paperwork and background checks must be done. So…ummm they are not really making anyone safer….it is clear here that the ONLY people that are targeted here are the business owners that have these build-it-yourself kits for people. But again…it’s going to be so easy for the business owners to either serialize these parts…or simply buy 75% completed guns that business WILL continue! Other business owners will simply move out of state. Either way…SHAME on the RI people for letting these politicians pull such a political stunt like this….without any checks and balances…..RI you are sheep…..dumb sheep being herded by those who take advantage of you
I guarantee more citizens are killed and injured by ILLEGALS than “Ghost Guns”. You have to BUILD a Ghost Gun”. Criminals are not going to waste time in building one. Why would they as they are criminals and going to use whatever they can Get. Throwing a Chitcago study up there is a joke as we know Chicago is a killzone set up by Democrats and which is indicative of failed Democrat leadership.
Three cheers for Rhode Island. We know need a Federal ban on Ghost guns as they are a major source of weapons for the Paramilitary Lunatic Fringe, Maniacs and dope gangs. If you are a law abiding citizen there is no need whatsoever for a ghost gun or a non-vetted gun. There should also be a Federal law mandating every gun sold be vetted first. The Chicago Study and others like it proved that guns used in crime were on average 13 years old and had been sold unvetted to many individuals until they ended up being used in a crime. And States with lax gun laws have been prove to send thousands of second hand unvetted guns into states with tough laws which nullify their tough laws.
You are trite and incorrect. The DOJ under obama shipped more guns to cartels than any citizen could ever move.
The thought of “unregistered” anything, there is no such thing, I am a free man with the 2nd amendment.
You have a right to manufacture anything you are capable within the bounds of the 2nd and ancillary legislation. Some states even do not recognize federal firearm laws and they are null within the boundaries of said state.
You are a fool.
‘Ghost guns’, like registered firearms aren’t the problem. It’s the criminals that get their hands on them. The number of legally registered firearms in the hands of criminals FAR outnumbers the number of ‘ghost guns’ in their possession. They have been stolen, purchased on the black market, etc.
Take away the ‘ghost guns’ – in fact, take away every known registered firearm in the country – and you be be assured that criminals will still find a way to get them. If they can’t, they can still rape, murder and pillage with hammers, steak knives, U-Haul trucks, etc.
That is the problem with ridiculous, knee jerk laws like this one. No criminal will register them and no criminal will be deterred by the jail sentence – they never have.
Hey, I have a better idea, just ban the criminals !
Three jeers more like it, ghost guns , and guns in general are not the problem, the criminals using them are, why not go after the perps and not the tools, put the folks away who use guns in a crime, that is what needs to happen , for gods sake, quit blaming the tool, it’s getting old and not solving a thing, wake ups gun haters , your just following the anti gun Agenda . Guns made this country and will remain until the end, your freedoms to complain were brought to you bye ,,,, wait for it,,,, the gun. Guns are not the problem!!!
To those grammar police types out there, sorry I used your and not you’re
You are a complete moron. Your “claim” of weapons being sold “unvetted” to 12 year olds is ridiculous. How about getting those guns out of the hands of the criminals that give them to the kids. If you had half a brain, you’d know those guns are given to little wanna be thugs BECAUSE they have a get out of jail free card, they’re under age! Now, go stick your head in the sand, again.
Who ya gonna call??
My understanding is that state law may be stricter than Federal law.
SHALL NOT INFRINGE
Ghost guns? A ghost can be invisible .So how are you going to confiscate guns you have idea where they are? Just another left wing stab at infringing on rights of American citizen and fuk the constitution.
“…our work doesn’t end here,” said Gov. Gina Raimondo
Of course not! And don’t we know what you’re Really after. Step-by-step, inch-by-inch, until they’re ALL gone.
Never mind from 1492 to 1968 all firearms made in the USA did not require a serial number. My dad bought me a nice Mossberg Target rifle, Model 304B in 1966 for my 11th birthday. No serial number. I feel sorry for the kid living in Rhode Island who’s grandpa leaves one to him.
Serial numbers on firearms stop crime, like license tags on cars prevent drunk driving.
Rhode Island is one of the States that has infringes the 2nd Amendment with so many restrictions that it no longer exists in that State. It is one of the States that is no longer free.
Great comment… So true!!!
So true!!!
I couldn’t agree more!!
The irony here, I’m sure lost on the governor, is that she is a fascist totalitarian. She is completely and blissfully unaware that she has more in common with Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao and a host of other leftist fascists than she has with the people who conceived and wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I do not recognize my country anymore. It’s like living in the Twilight Zone. Any minute I expect to see Rod Serling appear in my living room, “Imagine, if you will, a man, waking up and not recognizing his country.”
The most recent Court decision on incorporation came in the 2010 case of McDonald v Chicago, involving a challenge to Chicago’s tough gun control legislation. Just two years earlier, the Court had ruled in a case challenging a District of Columbia gun control regulation that the 2nd Amendment guaranteed an individual right to bear arms. In McDonald, the Court held that the 2nd Amendment right was thought by ratifiers of the 14th Amendment “among those fundamental rights necessary to our system of ordered liberty” and is enforceable therefore now as a right fully against the states. Justice Thomas, concurring, argued that the better vehicle for incorporation, one truer to the original understanding of the 14th Amendment, was the Privileges and Immunities Clause.
In summary, the Second Amendment forbids federal gun control and the federal government should attack state and local gun control laws in court because of the 14th Amendment, because the 14th Amendment makes the 2nd Amendment applicable to the states. This is what the Supreme Court ruled, and there is nothing in their rulings to the contrary.
He already appeared in my loving room!
I’m noticing that an unusually large amount of the resistance seems to be female. Many of the mayors who are supporting and promoting the riots, and this Gov. Gina Raimondo. Years gone by it seemed that the females tended to promote lawful safe social situations. Now they seem to be promoting crime and anarchy. What happened?
Sometimes I simply do not recognize my country anymore. The absolute fact that this young woman is oblivious to the fact that she is a fascist totalitarian and has more in common with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and a whole host of leftist socialist fascists is beyond me. She is neither smart or well informed. As my good friend Claude Werner frequently says, “Inside every liberal progressive socialist is a fascist totalitarian struggling to get out.”
Looks like they already have got out!!!
Lots of luck with that RI asscracks. I made my own 1st firearm in my dads garage when I was 13yrs old. Long before printers, youtube or “instruction manuals” were ever around. Way back in the early 1960’s. All you’ll do with this stupid law, is force people to make “throw-away” firearms. Just goes to show, that the “big brains” of legislature, sit on those brains.
I thought of the same thing! They’re just nothing more than throwaways!
If I can make a gun with a 3-d printer, what’s to prevent me from stamping a “serial number” of my own making on it? All this legislature has done is stir the creativity of some folks. Then, there are the folks who simply buy their weapons from the trunks of cars. They come with their own “carry” permits.
American ingenuity at it’s finest!
Delusional. Only the Democrats make Trump look good.
There’s NO ONE who could make frump look good.
Oh look Agnes, here’s a Leftist moron spouting one of their trite, childishly demeaning nicknames for Pres. Trump. About as cute as a little brat who just shat his pants.
Uh oh. Looks like we’ve got a libtard in the crowd.
No need. He looks just fine to the rest of the country!
Trump would piss on you after kicking you down the stairs.
Maybe if you stood next to him ??
Lol!
Yes, there is, for past references we have Obama, BOTH the Clintons, and Carter.
Harris, Booker, Schumer, Pelosi and on and on for current references.
However, from appearances here, NO ONE will EVER make YOU look good.
Why are you here Troll boy?
We know, and we couldn’t be more amused with you.
Be really hard to enforce these laws after the police are defunded.
Bingo! The same Progressive-Socialists doing this are the same ones clamoring for disbanding police dept.’s.
Funny, these imbeciles aren’t melting-down over the subversives carrying “assault weapons” in their self-styled CHOP. Oh wait, they can; we can’t. Got it.
Never happen.. too many people support them!
so nobody knows if ghost guns are used in crimes, but they are being banned. yes dems are idiots
True!
Can’t figure why some still vote for them.
But it feels so good going after guns that no one has used to commit crimes. For some reason or another when a thug uses a firearm to commit a crime I imagine he could care less whether the firearm has a serial number on it or not. If the BATF tracks the serial number on the firearm, it won’t track back to him.
because if somebody goes to their garage and carves “12345” on their receiver before committing a crime the police will know exactly where to find them
So, stamp.. 54321..
The only criminal use of a Ghoster I recall was that Democrat Militia Antifa criminal who shot up an ICE holding facility while attempting to explode the propane tanks fueling the facility. Somewhere on the left coast last year.
SEATTLE, WA.
What if you possess a 80% Lower or a pistol that hasn’t been machined into a firearm, would it still be considered illegal ? In my opinion until a 80% Lower is machined into a firearm it’s a paper weight. It might be a good idea to purchase all the parts needed to build a weapon and keep them in a safe place just in case. Democrats will then have to ban and confiscate drill presses and all other tools of mass destruction .
31 days from now every elected official in Rhode Island should receive a 80% receiver in the mail with the local police getting an anonymous call shortly thereafter.
But it FEELS good…regardless that it does NOTHING to stop crime and only hurts the law ABIDING.
Leftist rulings are never actually made with a goal of “preventing gun violence”, or to target criminals, but to control and disarm the American public
Sounds to me like a solution to a problem which doesn’t exist. The Governor’s remarks consisted of cliches cobbled together. Personally, I don’t see the need for ANY gun laws. We have extensive laws regarding assault, murder, etc. Now you want to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens who simply don’t want to be bothered with endless Nanny State nonsense.
If Biden wins. He will not do anything. He will not even that he is President. His Vice-President will become President in no time.
Have you ever noticed how these socialist that get laws passed laws like this, every one of them have that shifty expression that makes you want to keep your hand on to your wallet and cause you to constantly look over your shoulder. They look like a fox that has just killed all your chickens because they could. People keep voting these socialist into office, but do they truly like what these socialist they keep election have turned our country into, do they not realize these democrats are destroying all there freedoms?
They do not realize these democrats are destroying all there freedoms? Why?
Because they have been dumbed down for the last two generations.
The only exception is those that have been sent to private education and home schooled!
MARIJUANA: in Dem states. Keeping the sheep doped and dumb.
I watch a lot of news on TV. I don’t recall ever hearing of a death or shooting by someone using a 3D printed weapon.
I think it is because they don’t want to admit it!
So 80% are made illegal, go to 79%, the law that was passed says 80%. Or when the manufacture send a 80% they should stamp a 1 on them all. Idiot democrats that idiots keep electing .
An interesting suggestion, but let me ask you a question. The 2nd amendment warns public officials that they must adhere to the original Constitution. The original Constitution commands that there must be Militia in accordance with LAW and HISTORY. It is not voluntary as it requires that all able-bodied men 18 – 45 are organized, armed, and disciplined in order that they may exercise their authority “to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections, and repel Invasions”.
While the individual right has to be part of the equation, the Framers made it clear that sovereignty was in the hands of the people as the constitutional “Militia of the several States”.
Why not start by prosecuting the proper suit in law that would allow the indictment, and prosecution of public officials who violate the “rule of law”?
Don’t hold your breath waiting on the SCOTUS to have your back.
So, you may wonder why the country is in the condition it’s in?
So if I have a block of plastic or aluminum of sufficient size to turn into a receiver or frame I am in possession of a firearm. Every plastic and metal supplier and ever machine shop in the state just became felons.
I predict there will be many thousands of “boating accidents” in which certain personal items will be going overboard in RI over the next 30 days…………..
I Doubt that. I would bet they will be cached until the war starts! We are headed for war, not a civil war, but a war against right and wrong, a war of survival. This will be just another fight in the courts that the SCOTUS will decide not to hear, if it even gets that far. When the SHTF, these leftists will wish they had been born with a brain.
“Boating accidents” happen when someone inquires about your firearms and you had recently been an unfortunate victim of an accident and lost them in a lake or river, and report them as now lost to nature. Uncommon, but it happens…
Before I moved to Fla I lost all my weapons in a boat that hit a jetty turned over and sunk!
Good news. This law applies to the SMALL number of ‘bad law enforcement’ with their ‘throw-down guns.’
Ho will they enforce it?
Are there any sites left that do not monitor or censor you today? Use to be you could say what you wanted and the first amendment meant something, Now even this site and the few that were here just months ago are also caving in to censorship. Which means people are soon going to really need their guns and plenty of ammo to rid the nation of these satanist. I know many will say they are socialist, or communist but they are doing the work of Satan for his one world order so that makes them his minions and satanist.
Exactly!
They are all doing it because they are all intimidated. It’s all about money. They fear losing their internet business because of all of the leftist intimidation that is openly being initiated against anyone that tells the truth.
When you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything!
Make no mistake, there are a lot of these “progun” sites that are only in it for the profits. Just like how the elitists support war because it means huge profits in the selling of arms and ammunition, gun sites and companies are reaping huge profits from all of this anti-gun crap. If they were so pro-2nd amendment then why do they increase the prices exponentially when our nation is most vulnerable, and yet the cost of making the guns and ammo doesn’t increase? Their excuse is supply and demand, but it’s nothing but greed!
The gun manufacturers have incurred increased costs in legal fees with outrageous liability claims against their products, even though guns do not commit crimes, only criminals.
Gina is grooming herself for national office, anything for a headline, nothing ever useful. Change the name of the State, Check, tear down Columbus statue, Check, Ban guns and parts never used in a crime, Check. So glad I GTFO of Rhode Island and Providence Plantation and moved to Texas.
another bought off liberal nazi regime in Rhode Island. I see soros money has reached out and bought himself another state government!
There are only two party’s left in the US today, Constitutionalists, and Communists. When people begin to realize this, they might start voting correctly… might.
So very true and Communists are our enemy and have no reason to be living and breathing in this country and if we don’t start removing them then they will have full control of this country.
They’re not Communists, they’re Satanists. Using the term Satanist covers ALL of the different groups that are anti-right, anti-GOD, anti-Constitution, and anti-America. Socialists, dictators, communists, marxists, muslimes, jesuits and other fake Christians, jews/zionists, atheists, etc. The sad part is that the US government could quickly and easily stop all of these illegal and unconstitutional laws created by the states by immediately sanctioning them from all government funding and then suing them for violating their ratification agreement to become a state, which says they will support and uphold the Constitution. All Trump has to do is initiate an executive order against the state to force congress t act, and if congress fails to act according to the Constitution, them the citizenry should take up arms and physically remove congress!
Good luck with that!
This is the gun industry’s fault. The cute advertising of polymer 80s as “ghost gun” or “untraceable,” that I have commonly seen, is probably the most damaging way to advertise something like that. It has gotten the attention the marketers and distributors have been wanting. Congratulations!!!
Wow it’s the citizens fault that the demonkkkRATS are anti constitution marxists. They sure make them stupid where you come from. I blame you and stupid pussies like you for the loss of our constitutional rights. It’s always someone else’s fault.
Actually he is partially correct. But what is worst is that it is more the fault of the right than the left because the right insists on being pacifistic instead of taking armed physical action. All of you pro 2nd amendment individuals don’t even know why the 2nd amendment was added to the Constitution, nor do you understand that the Constitution holds additional verbiage that allows the citizenry to take up arms and remove a tyrannical government. All I ever hear is complaining and “we need to vote them out”! If we could actually vote them out it would have been done long ago; only a fool believes that our elections are legitimate. And yet we still have that tyrannical leftist government, a government that has prevented Trump from doing most of what needs to be done, because the GOP is on the side of the left also!
You can’t speak openly and honestly on these websites without being censored. Gruber Dems looking to censor and control your life while forcing their sick ideology down your throat! 👎
Ah! Komrade Governor Gina Raimondo eez good полезный идиот! Komrade Governor eez making homemade guns illegal in Rhode Island. So how do you think this Bolsheviks legislation is going to affect the rest of the country? HINT – Commiefornia will most certainly be not far behind followed by other Socialist useful idiots. The Communist-Democrat-Party cannot afford to have an armed populace. We are in the early stages of a full blown Soviet style Russian Revolution here in America. Their accommodating useful idiots in the press/news media [“news media” – now THERE’S an oxymoron if ever there was one] are diligently working to help bring about the destruction of the Bill of Rights and America and usher in their one world government. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR; YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT! For the record, the Second Amendment was written into the Bill of Rights to protect all the others. I know for a FACT middle and high school social studies “teachers” do not teach that anymore.
What about obliterating existing serial numbers? What difference does it make. Serial numbers prevent crimes? I suppose the people of RI are so brainwashed they think she accomplished something?
They tried it in CA years ago and it failed because they couldn’t get the idea to work with so many unknown manufacturers. What exactly is the plan to record all these serial numbers? This is written by a 32 year old kid without any sense or knowledge on how to implement it. Even if they could it wouldn’t change the criminals as they don’t go by laws. As always.
The people must be disarmed, for the “common” good, right comrade! The people are armed to prevent tyranny and tyrants and that pretty well describes ALL democrat politicians!
EXACTLY! The problem is schools rarely if ever teach this anymore, even here in Wyoming. Rather, under what I call “Communist Common Core”, they are taught, ” … the Second Amendment gives people the right to keep and bear arms PROVIDING THE GOVERNMENT APPROVES AND THEY REGISTER THEIR GUNS [EMPHASIS added].” That is an exact quote from “CCC”. I know because I retired from teaching a couple years ago and made it a point to tell my students that definition is total bull. Another “teacher” told the kids the “well regulated militia” was the National Guard. I corrected him in front of his entire class and told him the National Guard was 100 years old. The year was 2016 and the 100th birthday of the National Guard. The “militia” is WE THE PEOPLE. Needless to say the socialist studies indoctrinator was not amused but the students were thrilled! It is up to parents and grand parents to teach today’s school kids the TRUTH about the Bill of Rights. They need to be taught about the Battle of Athens, Tennessee [1946]. Google it and then share it throughout social[-ist] media; ie FASCISTBOOK.
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While the country is pulling down statues of people that had something to do with slavery or other monuments that may have offended someone the democratic party keeps pushing for more…but they are part of what is wrong. The democratic party needs to be banned. They once fought to keep slavery and still to this day run cities that run off of fear and oppressing minorities. Keeping people scared and ignorant is the key to their power.
Amazing how people will find, read and hear only what they see as the truth in their ‘minds’.
We have the method. it is called the vote. but we are a divided country. Thank you Obama!
I see a civil war on the horizon unfortunately! It is what the enemy wants and will make happen. Sadly no one will win.
Federal law supersedes state and city laws so how and why can they do what ever they want. Federal law is governed by the constitution of the United States. If Federal law says its legal then no state or city can override.
So, states that have “legal” marijuana, can expect a visit from the federal DEA?
This state law is a clear violation of federal law. But, I doubt the fed will move on it.
Interesting you mention cannabis prohibition. The federal government doesn’t do anything because the federal government is in direct violation of the Constitution in both of these subjects. The only difference is that guns are mentioned in the Constitution, but cannabis isn’t. The entire cannabis prohibition is a fraud perpetrated by the government for several reasons: 1) to support the big pharma corporations because cannabis solves a plethora of medical ailments but cannot be legally patented, 2) support the lobbying from the cotton and forestry industries because cannabis is a far superior product for paper and clothing, and 3) because the “war on drugs” is the biggest revenue stream for the government besides the illegal federal reserve/IRS, not to mention the revenue they receive directly and indirectly from big pharma. The whole claim of cannabis being a gateway drug has been proven to be a fraud by release of supporting documents.
Trump should immediately issue an executive order against these states that are violating the Constitution, which would require congress to act. Congress instead would sue Trump for abuse of power or some other bogus crap. But that reaction from congress should then cause the armed citizenry to do as our forefathers established – to remove the entire congress by armed force and replace it!
That is my question exactly! Rhode Island gun owners need to band together and take this to court!
I read the attached law and don’t see where it bans “gun kits with 80 percent lowers”. By using an electropen, a metal scribe, punches or dremel a unique serial number can be added by the “maker” and once it has a serial number, the new sections of the law do not appear to be violated. If one already owns a “ghost gun” it appears adding a serial number will bring it into compliance. I have faith that “makers” will find some really clever serial numbers to inscribe on their “no longer a ghost gun”
Whoop De Doo. So now homemade firearms must be numbered? OK, so the gun I build this month is a Mark Model 6/20. It gets serial number 1. Next month when I build another it’s Mark Model 7/20 and IT gets serial number 1. The month after: Mark Model 8/20 and . . . . yep, serial number 1. Why is this a problem? (Except that it, like all sorts of other regulations, “infringes” on the right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment. But, until we get Judges with enough integrity to enforce the law as written instead of acting like super-legislators, we’ll have to put up with this stuff.
I’m curious as to why so many gun owners are so defensive about the government wanting to force you to serialize and register you firearms, yet you completely comply with the serializing and registration of your automobiles. WHY? Additionally, you fight tooth and nail to keep from being forced to be licensed for your firearm but you let the government force you to have a Driver’s License. Even the Supreme Court has ruled that you have the right to unregulated travel and that you cannot be required to have a license to drive for personal travel. Yet our right to travel has illegally been turned into a privilege. How does a driver’s license make the roads safer? A drunk with a driver’s license can still kill people; a criminal with or without a license can still drive and kill people…….sound familiar? If you are going to fight government on one matter you should be just as willing to fight for ALL infringements!
Democrats want law abiding citizens disarmed so no one can oppose their antifa goons and other organized looters.
Exactly how many guns we’re used by the rioters to loot and burn Minneapolis? Libs are SO deluded.
If it works (the law results in 0 violence in RI) great, if it does not (violence in RI still happens) you won’t hear about that. In the meantime probably going to be 10s of 1000s of home made guns with exactly the same serial number. I made 5 a few years ago, all stamped #1.
That is funny. Never did one myself but maybe that should be the universal serial number for everyone of them.
There are thousands upon thousands of guns manufactured without serial numbers. It was done for years.
Serial numbers weren’t put on guns for the governments benefit. It was a manufacturing tracking and record keeping instrument implemented by the manufacturers.
It may have become a governmental overreach requirement but didn’t start that way.
**This is a prime example of the true intent of Gun Laws. Unlikely they can produce even one crime committed with an 80% gun. Just another thing to ban.
** Besides, if these BS riots have shown us anything, they should be an example that any law means nothing to those willing to disregard them. The laws are only for the law abiding and “We the People” need to take notice and give a collective middle finger wave to any law that infringes on the constitution in any way. The clown politicians, being coddled were hired to protect the constitution and they aren’t doing it.
Are these people for real thats the most idiotic rediculous notion I have heard in a long time.
First of all we see that thier concern is not with keeping people safe!
its more about infringing on the 2nd Amendment.
this is wrong in so many ways I can’t begin to count them.
Anyone who votes for a Democrat is a complete fool.
No democrats any more. They have completely lost any allegiance to the Constitution. They ALL need to be voted out!
There is a cultural revolution going on now and is led by the Democrat party- just like the one Chairman Mao led in China just after WW2
The constitution was to stop government infringement on our rights, Why do us voters continue to allow the government to infringe on them? This damn fool don’t even relies all the guns taken away will not stop someone wanting to commit a crime.
And a truly aspect of our Supreme Court is that we can’t count on them to uphold the constitution either.
So they don’t care that US citizens are allowed to have guns with no serial numbers???
Well we as US citizens should allow some dumb bitch to just walk all over our rights.
That’s all our government does lately, and all any body does is….. nothing!
Let’s take up these ghost guns and wipe out these idiots that think they can walk over us, which they have.
Best time to kill a threat, is when threatened
And without a serial number, how can they trace them? That being said even with a serial number who will they trace it too? LOL
Ghost guns? Is there a rash of crimes being committed with ghost guns? What a bad joke… a paranoid delusion. Yeah, those Rhode Islanders can really feel safer tonight. Ridiculous. This is what happens when Democrats are put in charge. If Biden wins, expect more BS just like this and much worse.
As if “crime” has anything to do with this! The thing calling itself “Governor” cheers on domestic terrorists running wild throughout it’s state and the rest of the country. It couldn’t care less about stopping crime! No, these monsters are only after power. Complete, centralized power and the utter destruction of the US Constitution.
This is worse than the nanny comment sections worried about google adsense. If you not free to speak you have no business owning a firearm.
What is even the point of owning a firearm if the people helping promote them are pansies afraid someone will take offense. Language matters, and when you cede that to the enemy you have lost because you are using their language to frame the arguments. Take the comment section out if your that averse to the slightest controversy. The people who would/will take offense will be offended at whatever you say it doesn’t matter. Just like our idiot politicians taking a knee or other nonsense. You will never please them stop wasting your time and treasure trying to do so.
The meth is killing your brain. Dumbest comments so far.
I’ll second that… Completely incoherent.
Seems like a Perfect law as Trump would put it. You don’t have to be a communist to pass a law about illegal guns. Some folks can only think political instead of thinking about whats really right. Freedom doesn’t mean only laws that is only fair to one party, it means laws that are best for all Americans.
But the problem is that Communist/Socialist/Leftist gruber Dems think their oppressive ideology and control is what is good for all Americans? Many of us say fuck that and are ready and willing to take up arms to repel their anti-American bullshit! 👎
Sooo…..if they are untraceable, how are the commies gonna find them? They don’t have the manpower to do door to door searches, and law abiding armed citizens rarely commit crimes that involve said arms. Sounds like a bunch of saber rattling to me. If I’m wrong on any point, please advise.
Believe me, they will force 80% arms and other manufacturers to hand over sales records to learn who purchased them.
Well even if they do I have seen the blanks sold at flea markets by people who never got around to doing them. To much trouble and time. So I guess the next step is to arrest anyone who has plastic or aluminum in any form.
The usual example of a solution in search of a problem. They admit the state has no information that the problem exists. Hopefully since this law contradicts federal law a federal court will tell R.I. where to file it.
Smart “ghost gun” owners will refuse to comply. Registration will eventually lead to confiscation, and you can bet the real criminals won’t comply anyway. Americans should prefer to have their firearms the same way liberals prefer their immigrants to be: undocumented.
Awesome comment
Could you elaborate on your non registration position… ;p haha but really, your comment is right on the money.
Do people realize that government cannot just pass any law that it wants?
Do people realize WHY “ghost guns” we beyond the regulatory reach of the BATF in the first place?
With 100% certainty, I can tell you that legally and Constitutionally there is no difference between someone picking up a stick and whittling a sharp point on it to use as a weapon for self defense, and manufacturing a “ghost gun” to use for the same purpose. I can pick up a piece of wood, a piece of plastic, or a piece of metal and turn it into anything I want to use for my own purposes. The only time an actual crime might occur is if I use that object to violate the right(s) of another individual or group of individuals.
What if you have a pre 1968 shotgun that never had a serial number. Is that considered a ghost gun?
Oh, of course … banning “ghostguns” will surely make criminals follow the law, won’t it? These liberals rule solely on emotions and no common sense. They do have an end-game, however. They” just take it one step at a time until we are left with paper straws & (COVID-free) spit wads!
More lies and fake news. Don’t believe the news media’s lies you can make these with simple hand tools. Can’t happen if you are a experienced tool and die make and have access to expensive equipment you could. The majority of people just don’t.
they have 30 days. how about 60, or 121 or 52.
That is fine but you can’t touch art, that is protected by constitution. A ghost gun is a achievement in skill and knowledge. Making one for ourselves is good for the future, makaing them for sale is foul. That requires a tax stamp from the ATF.
How come the DOJ is letting this state supersede federal law?
Is it not obvious by now? Trump’s 2A rhetoric is just that — rhetoric. Trump unconstitutionally banned a gun accessory by edict, pushed red flag laws, and nominated William Barr for AG. William Barr is a Bushite insider fixer who did legal work for the FBI sniper who fattaly shot Rant Weaver’s wife Vicki at Ruby Ridge.
If you do not think Trump is anti-gun, you are being fooled by his rhetoric. Proof? Name one major repeal or reversal of an infringement on your right to keep and bear arms since January 20, 2017.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.
So, you were a Hillary supporter?
Take a knee, become a lamb and vote democrat
So who are you voting for ? Democrats ? Nobody? Those are much worse choices for gun owners.
Typical liberal “concern troll” post. Let me guess, you wish Trump wouldn’t use Twitter so much too. Am I right?
If these communists and their illegal laws are not stopped now it will spread accross America.
But look out America if Biden becomes Americas 2nd communist president. Guns will become contraband as open borders and amnesty becomes reality
We watch a communist insurgency take place in democrat controlled cities as Obama calls it an “Awakening”. Its an insurrection.
So its time to go dark, Rhode Islanders and bury your home made arms in a way for instant access. Because the communists of your state wont stop with home made guns.
If that slow blow joe wins it will lead to a second civil war, Does not matter who is in the presidents seat the constitution is still the law of the land, it matters not what they want. If they get rid of the constitution that what would protect their stinking asses then?
Stupid people dong stupid things. They need some men in rhode island to fix this problem.
Problem is, since RI is one of those commie paradise states, they can’t tell the difference between men, women, and the 72 mental illnesses they claim are “genders”… you’d pretty much have to get REAL men from the red states.
Well they are fresh out, only cucks left. Which is why they have woman governor, which never ends well.
So you cant say C-ucks Is eunuch ok?
Yes Sir they do.