‘Seize and Destroy’ – Federal Lawmakers Reintroduce Confiscatory Ban on ‘High-Capacity’ Magazines

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'Seize and Destroy' - Federal Lawmakers Reintroduce Confiscatory Ban on ‘High-Capacity’ Magazines
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U.S. Senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and Congressman Ted Deutch (D-FL) reintroduced on Wednesday the Keep Americans Safe Act, a confiscatory ban on magazines with a capacity over ten rounds. 

In addition to banning the importation, sale, manufacturing, transfer, or possession of what they call “high-capacity magazines,” the bill includes the following measures: 

  • Provides limited exceptions for devices possessed before enactment, for certain current and former law enforcement personnel, for certain Atomic Energy personnel and purpose, for tubular devices that can only accept .22 rimfire ammunition, and for certain authorized testing or experimentation;
  • Modifies the high-capacity definition to prevent coupled or joined magazines;
  • Authorizes a buyback program for high capacity magazines using Byrne JAG grants;
  • Requires devices manufactured after enactment to have conspicuous serial numbers and date of manufacture to help law enforcement identify restricted magazines;
  • Harmonizes forfeiture provisions for magazines with current law; currently FBI and ATF can seize and destroy certain firearms but not high capacity magazines.

“The Keep Americans Safe Act is a common sense piece of legislation that will save lives and will finally limit the sale of large capacity magazines that are designed for killing as many people as possible without having to stop and reload,” said Sen. Menendez in a press release obtained by GunsAmerica.  

“We can no longer afford to do nothing as the scourge of gun violence continues to ravage communities across the country, and must address this as the real emergency that it is,” he continued. 

Rep. Deutch likewise expressed a need for outlawing these commonly owned accessories.  

SEE ALSO: Vermont Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Standard Capacity Magazines

“As President Biden told the country, there is absolutely no need for high-capacity magazines that can hold 100 rounds, 50 rounds, or 30 rounds: not for sport, not for self-defense, not for law-abiding gun owners,” he argued. 

“These are the magazines of choice in mass shootings because they maximize human casualties,” he added. “This bill helps to significantly reduce the number of casualties in horrific mass shootings that have returned to the headlines in recent weeks. Congress must not turn away from these tragedies; we must take action to save lives.”

Mark Oliva, the Director of Public Affairs for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, slammed the duo for “proposing to put a limit in the amount of self-defense Americans can use to protect themselves and their loved ones.”

“We know criminals don’t obey the law and this won’t stop the criminal misuse of firearms. This will only disarm those who follow the law,” he added.

Oliva also questioned the interesting timing of the legislation.

“Senator Menendez and Congressman Deutch are ignoring right now in Brooklynn, Minnesota, Black men are protecting Black-owned businesses with black rifles, fitted with these magazines,” he explained. “While other businesses burn, these businesses are untouched because of the lawful use of firearms to defend life and property.

“Senator Menendez and Congressman Deutch weren’t sent to Washington, D.C. to make it easier for criminals to prey on Americans. They should adhere to their oath of office, do their job and protect the rights of their constituents,” he concluded.

In short, this legislation is confiscation. This legislation is infringement. This legislation is unconstitutional.

When anti-gun advocates and politicians claim that they are “not coming for our guns,” like Vice President Kamala Harris literally said less than a month ago in an interview with CBS This Morning, DO NOT BELIEVE THEM!!!

They are coming for our lawfully owned firearms and accessories. The “Keep Americans Safe Act” is a testament to this truth.

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  • Ron Hollowell May 3, 2021, 4:52 pm

    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

  • Brian April 20, 2021, 11:28 am

    According to these 2 Democratic elite’s, high capacity magazines are not for “sports, self-defense or law-abiding citizens”, they are only for the politically connected elitists, the police/military and private security who protect them and of course the most important people to them, the criminal element.

  • Dexter Winslett April 19, 2021, 11:20 pm

    Some take them. We will die together.

  • Jon April 19, 2021, 8:19 pm

    They can kiss my ass. Let them come. Time to teach a lesson.

  • IntrepidGunner April 19, 2021, 5:21 pm

    FUCK THEM!

  • Austin April 19, 2021, 1:11 pm

    We don’t amend the constitution to limit freedoms. I can only think of one time it was done, Prohibition. It was shortly there after rescinded because if failed miserably (and the government admitted to purposely poisoning bootleg alcohol and distributing it resulting in thousands of citizen deaths). Our Constitution and it’s amendments limit the power of government and secure the freedoms of Americans. Period.

    We have laws to curb behaviors that general society agree need curbing. And yes, unjust laws squiggle in occasionally as well.

    Leave the Constitution alone. Enforce the laws that are already on the books.

    Try dealing with the sad lack of quality mental health treatment in this country first. Try supporting the American family.

  • James Perry April 19, 2021, 12:40 pm

    We need to do our part and impeach this regime that is constantly trying to violate our 2nd amendment right and take down the names of these perverted leftist child molesting politicians who want to takeep our guns and limit our mag. capacity and make sure they do not get elected or reelected VOTE FOR GUN CONTROL IS ABLE TO HIT YOUR TARGET. IMPEACH BIDEN/HARRIS CHARGE WITH TREASON AND INSANITY.Anyone as against trumps wall building then opens our border to millions of infected criminals then wants to start building the wall again…he is nuts .vote nuts and harris out of office

  • DAVID MILLER April 19, 2021, 9:54 am

    Ben and Jerrys ice cream kills more people every year than ten years of guns maybe more some are suicides

  • john April 19, 2021, 8:57 am

    There is “absolutely no need” for whiny little bitch Democrats either, Menendez, but here you are…

  • The SGM April 19, 2021, 7:36 am

    “These are the magazines of choice in mass shootings because they maximize human casualties,” he added. “This bill helps to significantly reduce the number of casualties in horrific mass shootings that have returned to the headlines in recent weeks. Congress must not turn away from these tragedies; we must take action to save lives.”
    I want to see the specific and validated numbers of these magazines used in so-called mass murders in the past 5 years. The writing of politicians so-called gun control bills is always specific about what they want to eliminate, reduce or control. However, when it comes to justification they are vague and in many cases misguided, ill-informed, dumb, just plain talking BS in order to gain sympathy/support for their misguided ideas.

  • Jeffrey A Cooper April 18, 2021, 3:45 pm

    I hope they come to get mine themselves!

  • John Mullendoren April 17, 2021, 4:52 pm

    Seems like the democrats are at it again. They don’t understand we as Americans are born with certain constitutional rights they can not take away. They can try, but when we don’t comply what will they do? They will then try to jail us or kill us. I will keep my weapons and mags. Sure not going to die alone. When they go to grab my gun, don’t burn yourself on the barrel. You will get my ammo first.

    • Irish-7 April 23, 2021, 2:14 am

      Outstanding! I’ve floated a similar quote: “When you come for our guns, you have to take the bullets first”.

  • Scott Syverson April 17, 2021, 2:35 pm

    “As President Biden told the country, there is absolutely no need for high-capacity magazines that can hold 100 rounds, 50 rounds, or 30 rounds: not for sport, not for self-defense, not for law-abiding gun owners,” he argued.”

    First off, I am not inclined to take orders for a demonstrably mentally enfeebled person such as Joe Biden who is neither in control of his own mind or his presidency. Additionally, I do not feel his opinion carries any weight as he neither won the election by the election laws of this country nor has a mandate by the people on this agenda. The purpose of the 2A is to put limits on government actions. I am at the point where I am wondering whether there is enough of the original soul of America left to properly use the gift of the 2a given by our forefathers. If cheating in an election is not a flashpoint, will seizing your weapons starting with Uncle Joe’s control agenda be the point of inflection? Or am I sitting in a pot with frogs who think the water temperature is just fine? You see if you are going to be a law-abiding citizen, a 2A-abiding citizen, you must possess weapons capable of unseating tyranny, and that starts with high-capacity magazines.

    • James Perry April 19, 2021, 12:47 pm

      Amen brother amen I just thought I was alone in this insane preverted child molesting gender changing by the day BIDEN HARRIS dog and pony show yes 2a gives us the right and ability to defend ourselves against these riots that our police are afraid to defend us from due to a BLM lawsuit and from our govt doing exactly what they are trying to do BS we got to stick together or it will be worse than assault ban in the 80s.

  • C.M.Chase April 17, 2021, 2:48 am

    Molon Labe

  • Gregory Romeu April 16, 2021, 9:30 pm

    ““These are the magazines of choice in mass shootings because they maximize human casualties,” he added. “This bill helps to significantly reduce the number of casualties in horrific mass shootings that have returned to the headlines in recent weeks. Congress must not turn away from these tragedies; we must take action to save lives.””

    So I guess the NEXT bit of legislation will be to determine WHO gets murdered out of any number subset of UNARMED, LAW-ABIDING AMERICANS? So say, the mass shooter has an “illegal” 30 Round Magazine in a group of 50 Unarmed, Law-Abiding Citizens. Is the government then going to say WHO LIVES and WHO DIES?

    • James Perry April 19, 2021, 12:57 pm

      It should be mandated that every law abiding citizen should have a belt drive .50 cal.on roof with a minimum of 100,000 rounds linked up and ready to go full auto as long as you pass background check to protect us against politiciand trying to take our rights away ..if you don’t like our country go home

  • john April 16, 2021, 8:04 pm

    Short and simple punishment for mass killings…arrest them, trial them and if found guilty…HANG THEM!!!! FUCK the needle or life long imprisonment. HANG THE PIECE OF SHIT WITHIN A MONTH MAKE AN SAMPLE

    NO MORE MASS KILLINGS…. PERIOD

    • Rick cholmes April 18, 2021, 1:09 pm

      Finally someone with balls to say what’s needed, I’ve been saying your sentiments for years and its great and needed to see it front and center. Thanks John

    • Rack and ply April 19, 2021, 1:53 pm

      N.a.s.i. Jersey voters like Santa i.e perks galore and Union bosses. i.e. liberal democrats. This is why when people say call your Governor, senator, and congressperson I just shudder and count my days to leave this extension of the Meadowlands sewer system. next discussion

  • bill April 16, 2021, 6:45 pm

    isn’t menendez the same one who amused himself by having sex with pubesent children . Why is this child molester still in office. Whats wrong with new jerseyites that they keep a pervert in office.

    • shrugger April 19, 2021, 7:21 am

      Swaying the dead voters away from the dems is nigh on impossible.

    • James Perry April 19, 2021, 12:53 pm

      New rules perverts for other perverts and BLM rights what the he’ll is going on in America ,close our borders shoot those tearing our cities apart impeach BIDEN HARRIS ,remove the assault weapons ban NFA From the 80s and enforce the we don’t call 911,never mind the dog beware of owner concept ,shoot 1st ask question’s later when it comes to personal safety for you and your family

  • John April 16, 2021, 5:32 pm

    Screw them both with a rusty fencepost!!! I will not comply!!

  • hippybiker April 16, 2021, 4:54 pm

    I think I’m going to invest in companies that make Tar, Feathers and heavy duty Hemp rope! I believe that along with our guns and ammunition, as well as standard capacity mags, we’ll have a use for thos items!

  • Grant Stevens April 16, 2021, 4:37 pm

    The only thing that is going to keep America safe is to immediately remove politicians from office who violate their oath to the United States Constitution when they author, sponsor and vote for legislation that infringes upon the unalienable right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms. Until it is repealed, the Second Amendment is the supreme law of the land rendering all laws, court rulings, executive orders and regulations that infringe upon it null and void. Until politicians are held accountable and punished for violating our hard-won Constitution, they will continue their tyrannical assault on our God-given rights. Time to draw a line in the sand.

    • Mark April 17, 2021, 10:55 am

      Amen Brother in Arms!
      The only thing that protects the First Amendment is the Second Amendment.

      The marketing BS naming of these bills goes to show how ignorant the masses are. How “safe” were the populations of every regime that then committed mass exterminations? And in each first came “legal” gun control.

  • 76TrueConservative April 16, 2021, 4:36 pm

    Come and get my mags, Mr. Menendez. Soon.

  • Sick of politicians April 16, 2021, 4:14 pm

    Menéndez Mr pedophile himself. We need guns, mags and ammo to protect our families from perverts like him.

  • D.J. April 16, 2021, 3:50 pm

    None of this ” bilge ” is about firearms control .

    It’s about PEOPLE control .

    Shame on those that do not , ” support , protect , and defend
    the Constitution of The United States of America . “

  • Steve April 16, 2021, 3:25 pm

    Just say, “No!”

  • etph April 16, 2021, 3:23 pm

    As someone mentioned here, the anti⎼gun morons have never had an incident where they needed a gun. I did, and so did my mother along with me who was intensely anti gun. That day changed her POV but she’s still slightly anti gun. I was on the phone with the sheriff for about a minute before the incident occurred, and like always, they arrived late…15 minutes late! And if the situation couldn’t be bad enough, the first sheriff to enter my home was one of the worst I’ve ever encountered. She seemed to be more worried why I didn’t talk to them to avoid that situation from happening in the first place. She complained that she had to finish her previous report and didn’t really care about our situation one bit. Her attitude further reinforced the fact that we are the only person we can depend on in life and death situations. It was my shotgun that deterred 3 of 4 ghetto ex⎼cons. In retrospect I would have grabbed my evil black rifle because it’s just more effective and pertinent for that kind of incident involving more than 2 people. When the criminals give up their guns and standard capacity magazines, I’ll do the same.

  • Kent San April 16, 2021, 3:01 pm

    I wish Menendez would just focus on his core competency — sex with under age women.

  • skipNclair Barker April 16, 2021, 2:45 pm

    Marbury VS Madison 1803 clearly applies here and that should end it for these want to be tyrants. If they continue to be tyrants I think a good old fashioned ass kicking should apply to remind them, they are the servants and we are there masters. If need be an ass kicking every day until they learn. I personally would hope some in office today would be very slow learners so I could get off on kicking their assess everyday. Now just in case some think Marbury VS Madison 1803 is not enough, the words of my favorite forefather and 3rd president of the Republic Thomas Jefferson clearly apply and he knew more about the constitution than all the politicians of today combined and all the lawyers and supreme court justice of today combined. “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.” If these two things are not enough along with an old fashioned ass kicking maybe sticking a magazine or weapon up their assess would get the job done.

  • Mr. NiceGroup April 16, 2021, 2:29 pm

    Democratic “Hands Off” Bill will be next, Remove all 10 fingers at birth.

  • Singleshotcajun April 16, 2021, 2:02 pm

    Sounds these idiots want to confiscate lever action pistol caliber rifles. Yep no doubt about it Winchester 1873’s , 1892’s and Henry rifles Nineteenth Century “assault “ rifles. We are not dealing with geniuses.

    • shrugger April 19, 2021, 7:31 am

      My Mossberg 590 holds 12+1 minishells. I wonder if this now makes me a danger to society?

  • Joe April 16, 2021, 1:22 pm

    Question do they know how many guns are in the hands of Patriots? Looks like somebody is is not counting or caring.

  • Mr. Anonymous April 16, 2021, 12:54 pm

    Simple reply.

    NO! Your move.

  • paule edwards April 16, 2021, 12:38 pm

    RAMBO IS A PUSSY THE USMC MADE ME FOR REAL—–YOU WILL NOT TAKE OURS

  • rsmalt April 16, 2021, 12:36 pm

    Blah…..blah….blah…..blah…..and on, and on, and on, and on! The same old tired, hackneyed tropes! It’s like listening to a broken record!

  • Rip April 16, 2021, 12:25 pm

    I remember when they passed the 1994 Brady bill limiting magazines to 10 rounds. The mfg’s built the same 30 round mags, but put a dow rod in the mag to limit the rounds. Popped right out…

  • Winston April 16, 2021, 12:23 pm

    Ignore the illegitimately-elected Democrat bigots. I suppose they might also starve us to death if they could pass it off as part of the phony pandemic. These talking pieces of feces represent the Gates-Schwab Davos-WEF agenda and are traitors and enemies.

  • Lucifer@Leftists April 16, 2021, 12:17 pm

    I propose a ban on Democrats. A limit of 10 allowed in any administrative body, government agency, room, vehicle, or space not otherwise noted. I’ll call it the “Safer Constutution Act.” The traitors in the Democrat organized crime syndicate look to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens, and by laws I mean Natural and Constitutional laws, not executive orders by illegitimate tyrants. This is an unconstitutional law, not that laws are any hindrance to Democrat lawbreakers.

    • Scott April 17, 2021, 12:49 pm

      Simultaneously amusing and a good idea.

  • J. McGovern April 16, 2021, 12:03 pm

    Why don’t they just pass a law that makes it illegal to fire more than 10 shots from a gun at people?
    Oh, wait.. that’s already illegal. Well then, what are these laws for again???

  • WellArmedPatriot April 16, 2021, 11:40 am

    I honestly can’t see this bill going anywhere. And if it does, Iit’ll be impossible to enforce. This might be the hill a lot of patriots (and Jack booted thugs) die on.

  • Dexter Winslett April 16, 2021, 11:33 am

    Please, come try to take them.

  • Raymond Waugh April 16, 2021, 11:33 am

    Has anyone noticed that every time the Democrats go after the Second Amendment and try to take our Guns, There seems to be a RISE in Mass Shootings During and rite After that they try to make their case? Every Single Time !

    • Winston April 16, 2021, 12:27 pm

      The current violent black crime wave is also the result of clearing the jails in big Democrat cities and counties last year because of Gates and Fauci’s pandemic.

    • Lyle Boehler April 16, 2021, 1:17 pm

      Yes. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

    • Kevin April 16, 2021, 2:18 pm

      Surely that is just a coincidence. You must be a conspiracy theorist.

    • CPB April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm

      They keep showing just how stupid they and their constituents are, seriously a dumb, deaf, blind monkey could see their bullshit…

    • shrugger April 19, 2021, 7:39 am

      Yes I have noticed that.
      Also, the scamdemic appears to “ramp up” just as we’re about to break free from the tyrannical fist.

  • Dilligaf April 16, 2021, 11:22 am

    IGNORE any and all unconstitutional garbage from all anti-American liberals

    #IWillNOTComply

  • Jarian Mitchell April 16, 2021, 11:19 am

    It’s 7.62 mm “Mr. Gun owning Democrat demass”

  • Dusty April 16, 2021, 11:15 am

    Like the Nazis that only started with the Jews, but expanded who was undesirable, where will these people stop on what they think is dangerous for honest citizens to own while criminals will still be armed.

    • bill April 16, 2021, 6:53 pm

      I find it hard to believe that fools such as these two and many other dem/socialists keep getting elected to office.

  • Frank April 16, 2021, 11:15 am

    MOLON LABE!!

  • someolboy April 16, 2021, 11:01 am

    The only thing these Dem Libs are doing is pushing Patriots towards revolution. And they have yet to consider all the veterans in this country who are sworn to defend the Constitution.

    • bill April 16, 2021, 6:56 pm

      so is EVERY elected house and senate member sworn to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights which is part of it. each one who fails to honor his/her oath of office must be impeached and removed from office.

    • Penny April 16, 2021, 9:11 pm

      You seem to have forgotten how obama said that veterans were the greatest threat to to America.

  • Alkemyst April 16, 2021, 10:54 am

    As usual, they have to lie. NOT the ” magazines of choice in mass shootings,” will NOT “significantly reduce the number of casualties in horrific mass shootings,” ARE for the law abiding public, and if the cops, government and YOUR GODDAMNED SECURITY DETAIL can have them….SO CAN WE!! You, want ’em? Come get ’em….bring body bags and everyone’s life insurance better be up to date…MASS civil disobedience inbound. This’ll make New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut look like pikers…

    • bill April 16, 2021, 6:59 pm

      don’t just say NY and jersey. west and north NY and south jersey are not part of the socialist traitors running the other parts.

  • Mike April 16, 2021, 10:53 am

    There seems as little room for honest debate on the right as there is on the left. The current state of affairs will continue ad nauseam while each side finds reasons to disagree with the other ad nauseam. Mean while mass shootings will continue ad nauseam with each side standing by it’s belief that “we have the right” ad nauseam while our neighbors, friends, and family members die or are injured in continued mass shootings ad nauseam.
    Last night another mass shooting at Fed Ex in Indianapolis. Will this argument give comfort to the dead and wounded? Like loosing a loved one in a traffic accident, it’s something that happens to other families, not mine….until it does. I don’t purport to have the answers. The answer certainly isn’t the current state of affairs.

  • Duane April 16, 2021, 10:49 am

    “The Keep Americans Safe Act is a common sense piece of legislation that will save lives and will finally limit the sale of large capacity magazines that are designed for killing as many people as possible without having to stop and reload,” said Sen. Menendez in a press release obtained by GunsAmerica. It’s only “common sence” when it benefits the Dems.

  • Francis Miller April 16, 2021, 10:46 am

    I will trade them some old 30 round mags for a couple hundred rounds of ammo!

  • ray April 16, 2021, 10:45 am

    I won’t comply then what?

  • Kenneth Hoffman April 16, 2021, 10:39 am

    10-20-30 rounds, No difference! I was trained in the military (something most of our posterior depression politicians never saw) to regard my weapon as a lifesaver, not something that someone could take away. And I was taught that I could reload that weapon as needed. There are “skill runs” that teach you just how fast that can be done, too. These people who raise their right hands and promise to protect the Constitution are nothing but liars and jerk-offs when they don’t adhere to that. Why do people keep re-electing them?

    • CPB April 16, 2021, 2:57 pm

      Amazing, how lazy most of our brothers are, run for office, spend 2-6 years trying to do the best, fighting the good fight(?), leave Washington, paycheck for life, live said life to the best of your ability. Yeah, I don’t get it either…

  • John Fox April 16, 2021, 10:27 am

    The higher the capacity clip the less chance of being killed by intruders, rioters, or crooked law enforcement! Yes you need high capacity mags when varmit hunting, target practice, and keeping in your self defense weapons! What you don’t need is a gun virgin protected 24/7/365 by federal officers telling you what you do and don’t need, when they haven’t walked a mile in your shoes!

  • JAM3116 April 16, 2021, 10:24 am

    These politicians and anti 2nd Amendment socialist morons say the only reason for standard capacity magazines over 10 rounds is to kill as many people as possible without having to reload. If they truly believe this why do they exempt current and former law enforcement officers. Do they believe law enforcement officers need to kill as many people as possible without reloading? No they know police want the ability to protect themselves when confronted with a shooting situation. But of course the common peons like us should not have the right to protect ourselves. We have to stick together and ignore these unconstitutional laws.

  • Chris Patrick Augustine April 16, 2021, 9:46 am

    Not all Democrats want to take away the 2nd! There are moderates like myself that see the reasons for and the intent of the 2nd. Don’t just blanket all Democrats as people who want to pull your firearms. You will find many come out and water down or not allow this particular piece of legislation to go to the floor.

    We need reason not the politics of the moment to drive legislation. The red flag laws are the best along with funding the FBI do do their our background checks. So many people just wait 3 days and because there was not enough time, they get a firearm.

    I am a Democrat with guns who believes in the 2nd amendment’s purpose. I don’t see why I can’t pick and choose what I believe, not based on which party wants your undivided devotion.

    • John Boutwell April 16, 2021, 1:19 pm

      This is as always only the foot in the door just like most law they will quickly be abused and misused as time goes on.

    • Walleye April 16, 2021, 4:02 pm

      Hey Chris – There’s a reason people like myself refer to “demon-craps” as such. First off, Red Flag laws are a very bad idea and for good reasons. Who’s to say someone out there who doesn’t like you for whatever reason… Maybe an ex-spouse, business competitor, political opponent, etc., decides to call in a Red Flag on YOU. Now it’s up to you to prove them wrong in a court of law, all whilst you spend ton$ of $.$$ in doing so! (This is strictly a violation of the 4th &5th Amendments!).

      Secondly, your commander in chief (O’Biden) has implicitly stated on his very own website the following confiscatory proposals for dealing with gun control: 1. Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. 2. Tax $200 per gun, with a nine month waiting period for the paperwork to be approved by the NFA. 3. Restrict the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one. Don’t believe me? Just go to Quid Pro Joe’s website and take a look for yourself: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

      Hopefully good people like yourself can win over the hearts and minds of the injudicious lunatics that run your party. If not, please leave and join the RNC, Libertarian Party, or some other party with more conservative governance beliefs.
      Cheers & Happy Shooting!

    • bill April 16, 2021, 7:05 pm

      I don’t think the blame lies on all dem just those elected to office and supported by the democrat national party.

  • Chris Patrick Augustine April 16, 2021, 9:37 am

    The compensation will probably be around $7.50 per 30 round mag which is even worthless to us honest citizens who know the 2nd is to prevent us from tyrannical rule in Washington. Like another said this isn’t just sporting, this is a way to topple a bad government like the framers of the Constitution envisioned might have to happen. Criminals have access to millions of 30 round mags and their guns are usually not registered. When the government starts tracing guns from the point of sale records to the gun owner then we should all be worried. There are better ways of controlling gun violence. Get the guns out of criminals hands! Make sure crazy people are wrangled in with the proposed red flag laws which I think would be good (I think that would be an excellent way to protect the public.

    I almost think that now the government is causing the ammunition supply issues driving up prices that would seem unimaginable 10 years ago. If you have a full 30 mag you have $15 invested in a hobby (this on 556 rounds, think about 7.68 rounds).

    A rational solution needs to be found that sticks to the original intent of the 2nd while saving lives of those that need not possess a gun!

    • Jay Fisher April 16, 2021, 11:05 am

      What will you say about the “red flag” law when your neighbor gets mad about you shooting and turns you in as crazy or claims your scaring their children?! That’s what’s happening to me right now! I can’t shoot on my own 50 acres without the county sheriff rolling up my driveway! I live out in the country, shoot into the side of a big hill, mind my own business on my own property! There’s too many busybodies anymore sticking their nose into everybody else’s goddamn business! I’m not crazy, but I’ll be damned if ANYONE is gonna take shit I paid for and was legal to own, when I did so without one hell of a fight! Guaranteed!🤬

    • bill April 16, 2021, 7:19 pm

      In the 1970s one could buy a case of 556/223 or 762/39 for 60 dollars anywhere in the US. that’s 1200 rounds . Now it’s at $1.25 per bullet if you can find it. It still scares the crap out of every democrat socialist rep or senator. They want open borders to the south and try to blame any guns south of the border on US sales. the cartels do not buy US guns. they buy them from China, Russia, No. Korea and many eastern European countries. They bring them in by the boatload to Mexico et al. I’d bet a dollar to a donut hole that the cartels, whether ono or many, have more weaponry than the Mexican armed forces. And our traitors that want openborders are welcoming them here.

  • JIMIL April 16, 2021, 9:25 am

    First of all, arguments trying to rationalize the futility of limiting or not limiting magazine size has nothing to do with these Libby proposals; it’s all about “control” and “power” and inching up the ladder towards complete gun confiscation like Australia.

    Secondly, if you do want to get in a public forum with one of these control clowns where their retorts would be subject to the echoes of cameras and microphones, ask them if a five shot .308 bolt action deer rifle would prevent mass tragedies. When they’re stupid enough to answer “yes,” ask them how they would have banned some crazy with that .308 on a hill overlooking soft targets 300 yards away, where all five would be dead about the same time the second round’s report reached the second body. RELOAD. Do it again.

    You can always tell how stupid legislators are about their “can’t have” solution to everything, as if the CAN have’s won’t think of a way around it, legally, and still accomplish whatever evil they want. Didn’t work with alcohol 100 years ago; didn’t work with POT, didn’t work with Cocaine, and it sure as hell won’t work with GUNS. Not in America.

    Like I said, it’s not about any of this, it’s about the long range vision (before 2022 mid-terms) of banning guns of all kinds; magazine limits is just to test the water. We just need to be sure BOTH Houses are flipped in 2022 to the RIGHT.

    • billl April 16, 2021, 7:49 pm

      “We just need to be sure BOTH Houses are flipped in 2022 to the RIGHT.”
      WE JUST NEED TO BE SURE BOTH HOUSES ARE FLIPPED IN 2022 TO THE RIGHT!!!!
      THERE I FIXED IT FOR YOU.
      To many voters are sitting on their hands , saying it won’t affect me. They are wrong, these socialists being elected want to control all aspects of life in this country. It WILL affect them very soon. What happens if the puppet in the white house decides that he doesn’t like your toyota corrolla and makes a executive decision to confiscate them?

  • alex April 16, 2021, 9:18 am

    bob memendez was just on trial for embezzlement,fraud and pedophilia just a couple of years ago,he got off because the liberals in new jersey wouldn’t put him in jail where he belongs,thanks new jersey for unleashing this asshole on our population!

  • Alej April 16, 2021, 9:17 am

    This is the hill I’ll die on. But my hill is in Texas, so I probably won’t get pushed too hard on the subject. But God damn any Democrat who comes through my front gate to confiscate ANYTHING of mine. For that matter, God damn any Democrat in this country. Lots of patriots were killed before 1776, as the Revolution took a while to gin up. But once the movement started rolling, thousands of the best soldiers in the world, the British Redcoat, lay rotting on Colonial soil. And so it will be again, because the God damned Democrat criminals in their government didn’t know when to quit.

  • Stan d. Upnow April 16, 2021, 9:08 am

    Listen- Ted Douche was my Congressman, unfortunately. They gerrymandered the district to place Douche in a position where he could pander to an elderly Jewish population. Douche is as far-left as it gets, and is one of the leading anti-gun Progressive-Socialists. I challenged his stupid anti-gun BS time after time without a meaningful reply. He regurgitates the same scary cliches the Left repeats ad nauseam to frighten his unknowing base into supporting the insidious destruction of their 2nd A. rights.
    Menendez is also a foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid anti-gunner. NJ has always been repressive towards firearms.

    • bill April 16, 2021, 7:53 pm

      It always amazes me how many Jews do not remember kristallnacht 1938 and keep electing people who spout the same words spoken then.

  • Ronald Peter Gamble April 16, 2021, 8:42 am

    don’t you people realize a person with 5 10 shot mags will inflict more damage than someone wit a 50 rd mag. odds are a 50rd mag will jam. the 10 rd mag wont. the time to change a mag is so little to a person who will sit and practice and practice taking one out and putting in another. I’m sure with practice it would take no longer than 1 second. all you are doing is taking away from law bidding citizens and the bad guy will keep his. wake up and enforce laws you do have. I don’t need you to keep me safe ill do just fine on my own if you leave me alone.

    • pcs April 19, 2021, 11:50 am

      Yes, and when counting rounds, switching mags with 10th in the chamber the switch is even faster. The gunny was correct.

  • BigC April 16, 2021, 8:11 am

    These idiots just can’t get it through their thick skulls, criminals and thugs don’t give a tinker’s damn about ANY laws they pass!! These laws ONLY restrict law abiding citizens’ right to protect themselves!
    Elections have consequences, keep electing morons like this and watch your life change to what these creeps think it should be!

    • bill April 16, 2021, 7:57 pm

      “These laws ONLY restrict law abiding citizens’ right to protect themselves!” That is the point or the agenda of the socialists running this congress and the puppet in the presidency.

  • Griffendad April 16, 2021, 7:55 am

    Simple math. You have 10 rounds but the criminal you’re facing has 17. The government just gave criminals a seven shot advantage! Thanks Average Joe.

  • Rob April 16, 2021, 7:18 am

    We will not comply. Si Vis Pacem Parabellum.

    • bill April 16, 2021, 8:00 pm

      Es Kommt der Tag

    • shrugger April 19, 2021, 7:46 am

      Lex iniusta non est lex

  • Ray April 16, 2021, 6:44 am

    The 2nd amendment is to protect the People FROM the Government, not for sporting purposes

    • Bernie April 16, 2021, 9:11 am

      You my friend are a wise man and on point take care

    • bill April 16, 2021, 8:03 pm

      keep saying that and the blue helmuts will soon be arriving at your door wanting to see your peppers.

  • Jim Hovater April 16, 2021, 5:59 am

    Amazing. The folks that don’t know the difference between a male and a female want to lecture us about ‘common sense’.

    • Jack Henry April 16, 2021, 9:21 am

      What about an 1860 Henry? It holds more than ten rounds in a tubular magazine but is not a .22 rim fire. Many of the lever action pistol caliber rifles would be illegal….but what is their plan for them? Not too many shootings involve cowboy action guns…

      • Stan d. Upnow April 16, 2021, 10:03 am

        The Henry replicas are copies of actual “weapons of war.” They will make the Ban List, for sure.

        Are you kidding me, recently one of those Leftist jackasses actually proposed banning the iconic Red Ryder BB gun! There are proposals to classify all air guns as “firearms.” They are collectively insane.

    • Stan d. Upnow April 16, 2021, 9:22 am

      Every time you hear the words “common sense” in regards to gun control, you can bet the farm it’s a Progressive-Socialist about to propose their spoon-fed anti-gun dribble.
      They say that to imply that if you oppose their attempts to disarm the people, you are nothing but a brainless Neanderthal(a term they’ve actually used).

      • bill April 16, 2021, 8:06 pm

        why is my statement “keep saying that and the blue helmuts will soon be arriving at your door wanting to see your peppers.” awaiting moderation???

        ↩ ∞

      • Mark April 17, 2021, 11:30 am

        You nailed it. Glad some can see through the marketing bs!

  • Slowira April 16, 2021, 5:25 am

    Molon Labe!

  • Draven April 16, 2021, 4:06 am

    Article I, Clause 3.

  • RedManInABlueState April 16, 2021, 3:42 am

    I don’t care what laws they pass. I am NEVER turning in anything I have. MOLON LABE!

    • Stan d. Upnow April 16, 2021, 9:54 am

      Uh Oh, PC violation! You can’t say “Red Man” anymore. That’s racist! Now, the proper term is “Indigenous American Person.” lol

      • Mark April 17, 2021, 11:58 am

        Am I the only one that understands that anything done to address the racial injustices of the past are intrinsically racist?
        Once again, the “race card” is getting really annoying. The statistics tell a completely different story of crime and victimization than what our politicians and media are purporting.
        Personally I’ve never been chased nor shot at by the police because I was taught to never run from the police; and especially not to threaten the police; but to respect them.
        But I will arm myself to be equally (marginally) equipped if the day comes. And thus I trust that day won’t. If I’m not, it will.

  • SCOTT W BAKER April 16, 2021, 3:32 am

    I guess it’s safe to assume that the Secret Service doesn’t use “high capacity” magazines since they aren’t needed for protection.

  • Brad Frasco April 16, 2021, 2:54 am

    Only if they come personally to collect them.

  • JB April 15, 2021, 8:55 pm

    I live for the day to shove 30 rnd magazines up the asses of these and every other communist gun grabber.

  • Greg April 15, 2021, 10:59 am

    This law will make criminals out of millions of law abiding citizens.
    Do they really think we’re going to turn in our magazines? If it’s a buy-back, they better offer at least $100 for my 15 rounder!

    • SCOTT W BAKER April 16, 2021, 3:33 am

      I’m thinking closer to $1,000.00.

    • Stan d. Upnow April 16, 2021, 9:34 am

      Where I used to live, they had a gun buy-back event. The morons that complied and turned-in their gun(s) worth $hundreds, or maybe $thousands, got their payment at the end of the transaction. It was a $50 gift card to Walmart, regardless of the number or value of their guns. Also, the police now had their names, addresses, phone numbers, etc., in case they decided that a “home inspection” was desirable.

      The smart ones turned-in rusty, broken BB guns, or .22lr rifles worth nothing. But, the cops still had their personal info, which labeled them as “gun-owning insurrectionists.”

  • william onderlinde April 14, 2021, 10:22 pm

    Crazy. 10 rounds, 5 rounds limit? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I have some 17 rnd. mags for my 9mm. 50 rounds, 100 rounds is baaad news in the hands of a crazy person armed with an assault rifle, whether on full auto or “Bumpstocked”.
    Yet as I saw on YouTube, why penalize/come after responsible gun owners. What if you are defending yourself? Will a measly 10 rounds cover the situation? I can’t recall exactly where I read something about this particular issue of self-defense. I’m sure about this though: the criminal after you & yours will not wait till you reload after those paltry 5, 10 rounds. ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO ASK THE ASSAILANT “OH, KIND SIR; TIMEOUT WHILE I RELOAD”(?)
    I’ll bet that the wussies wanting a small magazine restriction NEVER had a life threatening incident occur to them, maybe even their family–thus it’s easy to be self-righteous, condescending, OVERBEARING AND OVERREACHING.
    SO. What to do? Stringent universal background checks for starters. Because to fully believe in the simplistic “Guns don’t kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE”, means keep the guns away from the crazies. And while it’ll never be a perfect system, something must be done. Ignoring the problem has not worked.
    I figure the 2nd & 14 amend’s apply; I didn’t look up which one covers illegal search & seizure.

    • Common sense my @$$ April 16, 2021, 3:21 am

      Soft targets are what make for mass casualty events, not magazine size. Columbine was solid proof of that. That happened during a mag capacity ban and the Federal AWB. If the bad guy faces no armed opposition for minutes or longer, that’s 100% the cause of more casualties. He’s got all the time to reload, at which point mag capacity is meaningless. This isn’t about reducing casualties. It’s about controlling the populace.

      • Stan d. Upnow April 16, 2021, 9:49 am

        The Progressive-Socialists relish these mass-shooting events, despite their fake tears(ask Obama about that). The proof is that they have actually called for More gun-free zones.

        All these gun owners/groups and TV/radio pundits putting rationale rhetoric on the table are clueless. They think they are dealing with reasonable, rational people on the Left. They just don’t get it that the Left does Not want to hear any logical arguments. There is a firm agenda to be achieved, which is not to be compromised. Don’t waste your breath and NEVER give them an inch!

  • Taxx73 April 14, 2021, 3:11 pm

    Hey demonrats you can go pound sand! I WILL NOT COMPLY!!!!
    TRUMP 2024!
    Remember if you come for mine you better bring yours!!
    LEAVE OUR RIGHTS ALONE!!!

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