Savage .17 Winchester Super Magnum Rimfire Rifle – SHOT Show 2013

by Guy Sagi on January 18, 2013

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This is a groundbreaking new rifle from Savage made for the new .17 Super Magnum **RIMFIRE**. You may not have heard of this cartridge yet, but it shoots a 20 grain bullet at about 3,000 feet per second, at .17 caliber of course. This means fairly flat shooting at devastating velocities out to 300 yards and beyond. What makes this particular gun special is that it is from Savage, the leader in out of the box accuracy in bolt guns. They have incorporated several centerfire bolt gun features into this rimfire rifle, at a rimfire price of $349. As ammunition gets more and more expensive, that you can go shoot prairie dogs, crows or even tin cans all day at 300 yards on the cheap may make this the biggest story of SHOT Show 2013. Bill is correct here in the video when he says that Savage won’t be able to make enough of these guns. If you are a new gun owner and you bought a pistol or an AR first, this would be your ideal second gun that you will never outgrow and that you will still enjoy shooting in 30 years, with your grandchildren. Another great rifle idea from Savage. Get yourself on the list with your local dealer, because supply may not catch up with the demand in 2013.

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William J. Stewart January 18, 2013 at 2:33 pm

“.17 Winchester Super Magnum Rimfire”? What are the dimensions of this cartridge, it’s pressure limits, and when will it be listed on the SAAMI web site? Or is this actually the registered “.17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire” Cartridge?
Please give more information.
Regards,

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George January 18, 2013 at 4:50 pm

Winchester has a “power fastener” division (think nail gun) and the new “.17 Winchester Super Magnum Rimfire” is based on their .27-caliber power fastener cartridge case.

Regards
George
NRA Certified LE Instructor, NRA Training Counselor

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Fred Derf January 18, 2013 at 5:09 pm

You’re on the net, dude, look it up.

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WayneR January 18, 2013 at 5:45 pm

Google search for “.17 Winchester Super Magnum”.. tons of info about it.

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Anthony January 18, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Give Obama and Co. a couple years and the detachable magazine on that bolt action rifle will make it an assault weapon. But being from the free state of Texas, we think such things are just fine. I’m glad to see that firearms companies are still innovating.

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HuMart July 2, 2013 at 7:57 pm

What a dork! Get your facts. Obama has yet to take a gun or ammunition away from anyone. And he isn’t going to. In case you hadn’t heard, laws are passed by Congress and signed – or vetoed – by the President. And if they are vetoed, Congress can override the veto if they can muster enough votes. The elected party that is in majority prevails. That is basically how our democracy works. If the government wants to arm every person in the country over 6 years of age, then it will pass because the people elected the government. If the government wants to take away all firearms from all folks in the country then it will come to pass because it is the government elected by the people.

Gun manufacturers and the NRA would love for you to think otherwise. That is what keeps you flocking to buy all the firearms and ammo you can possibly afford on your credit limit. It keeps you thinking how smart you are when in actuality you are an idiot and it keeps the big bucks going to the gun manufacturers and the NRA.

Keep on buying crap; it is good for the economy too.

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Dan McMillan July 5, 2013 at 7:44 am

Who’s the DORK?. Obama has been doing things he’s can’t do by law all along. First you have to haave a congress willing to stop him dork.

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endthetyranny July 23, 2013 at 11:58 am

Hey HuMart, it’s people like you that cant see past their A55 that got us were we are today, a tyrant President who hates America, it’s people and the Constitution. You stay in your little bubble why others are out fighting the good fight. you speak like a pansy. Lets all guess what HuMart is, a Liberal, a Democrat, a New Englander, an Atheist? MY GUESS ALL OF THE ABOVE. how about you?

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Dustin September 28, 2013 at 10:19 pm

We’re not a democracy…..

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Freeman January 12, 2014 at 4:47 pm

Thank you Dustin, We are a Representative Republic, as anyone who know the Pledge of Allegiance also knows. And HuMart…I guess you think that resorting to name calling is the way to get your ill-conceived point across?

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Paul February 23, 2014 at 3:17 pm

Come to NY and see what Cuomo has done and will do if he gets to the WH

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STEVE C April 14, 2014 at 9:49 pm

YOU MUST BE A DUMB-O-CRAT. This is the most ANTI-GUN, ANTI AMERICAN president in the history of our country.
Get a clue dude!!

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Brakeman January 18, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Very cool indeed!
And quite a nice looking rifle I must say…
So when can we expect the 22 caliber version?

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john kennedy January 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm

if it takes a majority of states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution and there isn’t a time limit for the states to study it before voting, how can a Governor or President flash a pen and change an existing right of the citizens? this is a travesty and as far as I’m concerned it’s the absolute beginning of the end of our democratic nation. it was great while it lasted and I, for one, have lived long enough to enjoy it. plinking and hunting with my father, then my sons and daughter and now.. or should I say, up until now..with my grandchildren. all 20 of them. I’ve been buying them rifles and land to hunt since 1963 and as far as I can see into the future it’s all been wasted money. I wish I lived in Texas, at least they have the right mindset!
John Kennedy
New York State.
used to be the best place in the world to live..no more

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JOHN HOGAN January 18, 2013 at 6:56 pm

Hello John

I can sense your frustration and your right. One man decides your fate up there??????????????? You have to question that for sure.
I have been in Law Enforcement most of my adult life (Topeka Kansas Police Department) and lived on a small 40 acre farm outside of Topeka, always shooting and loading. Since retirement I looked around for a place that didn’t have snow to shovel. I found a wonderful community in Mission, Texas.
You have to love, as I do the TEXAS way of life and how they treat the Texans that love their guns…. Our Attorney General just the last few days has extended and invitation for everyone of you foiks that love the AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE to head down this direction and enjoy it…..
Darn shame one or two idiot’s can change your way of life, your children’s and Grandchildren’s. If it all hits the fan this state will be the place to be. I will have the coffee on and you will probably be able to smell the Hoppe’s gun oil when you come in the door. Stay safe and keep your powder dry. John H

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DDavis January 18, 2013 at 7:47 pm

I think it’s great you have enjoyed the time spent with your father and offspring in the sport of hunting and shooting. God be with you and don’t ever give up.

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Fred January 18, 2013 at 9:03 pm

not about to happen. need I say more?

the minutemen were well armed and protected the locals from British taxation.

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James March 25, 2013 at 10:40 am

John, I hear you. I love NY, lived there just over a decade. The Adirondacks are among America’s most beautiful scenery, and the Forever Wild mindset and easy access to public lands is one thing NY got right. However, while it wasn’t the reason for my move, I did get fed up with the constant de-Americanization of NYC/Albany politicians. I lived in the Eastern Europe a while too. Guess where I felt more free?

Now I’m in Texas, and all I can say is, come on down. The water’s fine. And you’ll love the tax decreases, too!

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Gabe January 18, 2013 at 3:45 pm

First article I had read about it a couple weeks back.

http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/01/02/introducing-the-new-17-winchester-super-magnum/

Based off of a .27 caliber casing for a nail gun, from Winchester’s Power Fastener Division… Who knew?

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Don January 18, 2013 at 3:50 pm

cost and available of ammo?

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Laurence January 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm

How about a 20 cal version and left handed!!

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JR January 18, 2013 at 4:46 pm

There is nothing about this rifle on your website. When will it be available? I have been looking for a .17 and I think I found what I want.

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Ron January 18, 2013 at 4:55 pm

Can we expect that rifle in a Left-hand version as well as a 22 caliber

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Jeff January 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Why are we constantly discriminated against, more left handed guns please!

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Administrator January 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm

Your own minions work against you! Take a look at the comments we got on the Browning left hand X-bolt lefty. Lots of people say they don’t need them.

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ROBERT JOHNSON January 18, 2013 at 5:01 pm

Attention: W.J. Stewart
The .17 Hornet (by Hornady) is not a rim-fire cartridge. It is a center-fire cartridge. (Same length as the .22 Hornet
center-fire cartridge.) Both gun (Savage Model 25) and ammo are available. The ammo and guns will be one of 2013
major high-lights. (In my opinion)

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Wolfsbane November 8, 2013 at 2:24 pm

@Robert Johnson

Hey dumbass, learn to read.

RJS asked if the cartridge was the same as the .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire NOT the .17 Hornet. As in this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.17_HMR

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Jeffrey January 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Do the make a lefthand version?

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Mark Owen January 18, 2013 at 6:14 pm

I would love to have one of these .17 rifles, but it must be in semi-auto, with all the technology out there you can’t seem to come up with a good dependable semi-auto in .17 ?

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Djcope February 6, 2013 at 9:15 pm

Alexander arms makes a 17HMR upper for the AR.

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charlie January 18, 2013 at 6:20 pm

Sounds good, but I would of liked it more in a 20 caliber like the 5MM Remington with more punch.

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Jeff January 18, 2013 at 8:52 pm

@ Mark Owen
Agreed which is why I had Mike Mille bulid me uppers for my AR’s. Have two uppers in 17 remington and I can tell you they are my “Favorite” rifles, ZERO RECOIL, LASER TRAJECTORY, and WITNESS EVERY HIT. Realize I am talking centerfire, and thread is predominately rimfire, but if they aren’t going to make a semi-auto have one built.

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Fred January 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm

learn to shoot from either side. U don’t alwayd get a chance to change.

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jp May 5, 2013 at 12:23 pm

some dont have that luxury, im blind in my right eye.

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Fred January 18, 2013 at 9:09 pm

I love target shooting, It is great for steadying the mind and hand. shoot clays with a .45acp and enjoy the fun.

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jim mcdaniel January 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm

if you want a semi auto in 17hmr go to volguartsen they are available there and the shoot great mine will do half inch 100yrds all day long.

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common sence January 19, 2013 at 7:18 pm

I THINK THAT A 17 HORNET WILL DO EVERY THING BETTER, HEAVER BULLET AND FASTER SPEED AND IF YOU RELOAD THE COST PER ROUND WILL BE VERY CLOSE.. HOWEVER IF YOU DO NOT RELOAD THIS COMBO COULD BE A LOT OF FUN THE DOLLAR…

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Eric Mayer January 19, 2013 at 10:35 pm

I shot this at the Media Day and did a full write-up on my site. To answer a couple of questions. It is a completely new round and NOT the .17 HMR. I do not think it will be available in the left-hand version just yet. However, Savage stated that they are looking to use this same platform for other rimfire cartridges, so it may be available in the future. Volquartsen told me that they are looking to build one of their rifles to handle this round as well. I also have a full picture gallery on the Savage B.MAG from the show. It is a neat little rifle!

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Robert7 January 20, 2013 at 12:07 am

i can shot left with right side bolt so can my kids

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Boots January 20, 2013 at 9:03 am

3000 fps. How is that better than the .223 at 3240 fps with a 55 grain bullet? 33000 psi. Again. The rifle will take almost 100,000 psi. Why not make a case that will handle more pressure than try to minaturize the bullet? Will 4 to 5 thousand fps shoot flatter and have less wind problems with a heavier bullet make more sense? Barrels? I see more people changing uppers and replacing barrels than ever before, and I never had or heard of a local owned gun that shot 50,000 rounds and had to replace the barrel yet.
Boots
Yes, Obama has got to be the no. 2 Pres. (Dictator) to go with congress approval.

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Administrator January 20, 2013 at 12:10 pm

Many of the comments here miss the point that this is a rimfire rifle. The ammunition cost is roughly 1 third to 1 half for high quality ammunition. You can shoot prairie dogs all day for 50 bucks.

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Bill April 25, 2013 at 11:30 am

Finally some one who gets the point…….looking forward to this rifle and round :)

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kim June 19, 2013 at 3:23 pm

I like the17hmr because it’s fairly safe to shoot things out of trees, when the bullet descends it loses energy fast. Put me first on the list for a left hand model.

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Walter January 29, 2013 at 7:43 am

Hi I hope Savage will make one with a 7 round mag for us poor soles behind the iron curtain in NY.

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Paul February 23, 2014 at 3:21 pm

AMEN Walter

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Ryan February 1, 2013 at 10:13 pm

I don’t understand all the hype. A 3000 fps rimfire is novel but it is not a huge improvement over the HMR. The claim that it will be a legitimate 300 yard varmint gun seems a little far fetched since it is still a tiny bullet that will get blown around by even the slightest wind. My 17 HMR is my current truck gun for varmint control on my ranch and while its great for rabbits and squirrels the only way to reliably take down a coyote is with a head shot and I imagine it will be the same story with this. If they had introduced a .20 WSMR with a 32 grain vmax at 2200+ fps I would be first in line but I think I’ll pass on the latest and greatest this time.

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Casey February 4, 2013 at 8:31 pm

Wow!!!!!!!!! No narrow minded folks here.

Here’s what I’ve found out so far: I’m not advertising for them either.

1) It has about 185 ft/lbs of energy at 200 yards, a 17hmr has 70 ft/lbs
2) Wind drift at 200 yds in a 10mph 90deg crosswind is as follows:
17hmr 16″
22mag 24.2″
17wsm 7.8″
3)Trajectory: (50yd +.25″) (100yd +.83″) (150 yd 0″) (200yd -2.6″) (250yd -7.2″)

The negative: Midway is supposed to have these shells in stock soon and I think they were around $16/box.
any of us that reload can do 223′s for less than that. So, I probably won’t rush out and buy one
unless they get a whole lot cheaper.

All that being said, it would be lots of fun to shoot and a whole lot quieter than the centerfire.
Hope this info helps someone.

Happy Shootin’

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Bill April 25, 2013 at 11:34 am

yeah, narrow minded all over the place & glass half empty…….glad to have another piece to pick from in these anti-gun days…….can’t make some people happy at all…..ME…I want one!!!!!!!

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Rick LaFountain February 12, 2013 at 1:57 pm

keep me posted on availability of the new rifle, i want one thank you

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alexschwetz March 2, 2013 at 7:16 pm

lets not forget the 204 ruger, its between the223 and the all the 17′s.but they all have a purpose or is it a place in our heart.204 flat and carries better then all the 17′s.

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meghin March 21, 2013 at 9:32 pm

How do you put your self on the list?

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Joe April 2, 2013 at 12:38 am

Just to add a suggestion, comment was made above
That 17 super mag was to be $16 per box
And 223 could be reloaded cheaper?
The rimfire comes 50 rds per box at $16.
Can 223 be reloaded for less, primers, bullets and powder?
Curious?

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Bart July 24, 2013 at 5:31 pm

If you factor in the reuse of 223 brass (figure it can be used 6 times), at current cost I can reload 223 for 8-10 cents a round.

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Josh April 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm

I can reload 223 with ballistic tips for $12 per 50 and thats not even the cheap FMJ stuff.

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j bodnar May 6, 2013 at 7:11 pm

I live in mt. and i have a lot of places to shoot than at a shooting range,for nothing.I’m a winter texan and if i want to shoot my firearms I have to go to ashooting range and pay $15.00,thats why i shoot skeet there. Texans are tight with their land and you have to know somebody there if you want to shoot. They feed the deer there and shooting a deer is as easy as feeding them. Pigs are everywhere-no challenge Hunting qual and ducks is expensive.I,ll take mt. We are more free here. By the way, I just moved here from mn. 2 years ago.

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c.j. June 6, 2013 at 4:37 am

My mom and my stepdad work at winchester and have a good amount of power in the facility so i can get a great discount on the rounds and hopefully on the rifle.If i get this gun it’ll be about my 27th gun:)

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Don June 6, 2013 at 10:05 am

Where is the rifle? Where are the shells? Promises, promises, promises. It was suppose to be on the racks in April, then May, and now it’s June and still it’s a no show……………WHERES THE BEEF?

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Dutch June 27, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Would love to have one!!

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christian July 10, 2013 at 2:55 am

When will the 17 WSM rifle and ammo will be available to purchase cause I really want one.

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Administrator July 10, 2013 at 10:30 am

we already have the test rifle from savage but we have been unable to get the ammo so far

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christian July 11, 2013 at 5:03 pm

So if you have the rifle the 17 WSM can I buy the rifle and then wait on till the ammo is available to buy. And when do you think the ammo will be available would it be a few months or?

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christian July 12, 2013 at 8:49 pm

So when do you think the ammo will be available for the 17 WSM. And can I buy the rifle know and then wait for the ammo to be out?

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Administrator July 14, 2013 at 2:18 pm

The rifle is officially out. We have one. Ask your gun dealer to see if his distributors have it. Midway is saying an August ETA on the ammo right now.

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Kelly July 26, 2013 at 10:37 pm

Humart is a dumb f##k just like obummer

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Ben July 29, 2013 at 5:21 am

Found 4 boxes of ammo at Academy in Jonesboro, Ar.

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John McClaren July 30, 2013 at 2:04 pm

Where can I purchase one at a reasonable price?

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Administrator July 30, 2013 at 7:40 pm

Ask your local gun dealer to order you one. Some of the dealers and big box stores actually do have them.

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Ken August 2, 2013 at 9:07 pm

John…nothing personal but have YOU asked ???? Little back woods PHX, AZ…..out of 8 stores I called no one has seen either ammo or rifle…..might be nice if you ask the mfg’s where the mysterious guns are…..I even called Davidson’s….a little wholesaler….if you buy over a million a year you “might” get one…

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Ken August 2, 2013 at 9:09 pm

ps. any PMR 30′s either…..LOL….we are fish

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Don August 4, 2013 at 5:16 pm

will pick up my savage B MAGNUM this week get it scoped then wait for ammo

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Administrator August 4, 2013 at 5:56 pm

got some at bass pro

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BRP September 7, 2013 at 6:46 pm

I will continue to use my Ruger 223 with 40 grain ballistic tips and will not worry when the new rifles and ammunition will be available.

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John April 7, 2014 at 7:58 am

O’Bama was born in Kenya. Everybody knows that.
Well, did you know that O’bama was the Manchurian Candidate?

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John April 7, 2014 at 8:00 am

O’Bama was born in Kenya. Everybody knows that.
Well, did you know that O’bama was the Manchurian Candidate?

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