Biden: Police Should ‘Shoot’ Knife-Wielding Attackers ‘In the Leg,’ Not the ‘Heart’

Presidential hopeful Joe Biden talking about reforming use of force tactics for law enforcement. (Photo: The Recount)

Joe Biden is known for giving terrible self-defense advice.  

Case in point, his remarks during an online 2013 Q&A in which he advised citizens against purchasing AR-15s because “they’re harder to use” and “harder to aim” and “you don’t need 30 rounds to protect yourself.” 

During that same session, there was also this little gem about how to use a side-by-side scattergun.

“If you want to protect yourself, get a double-barreled shotgun,” said the then-vice president, adding that he tells his wife Jill, “if there’s ever a problem just walk out on the balcony here … put that double-barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house.”

Right.  Because that’s exactly what one wants to accomplish in a self-defense situation.  Emptying their gun, giving away their position, and engaging their neighbors with potentially deadly force as opposed to the armed rapist, looter, or spree killer lurking in the bushes.  

SEE ALSO: Biden Tells Michigan Construction Worker He’s ‘Full of Sh*t’ After Being Called Out on 2A

Anyway, the 2020 presidential hopeful once again put his foot in his mouth this week when he told a crowd of black leaders that “There are a lot of different things that can change” about police training.  

“Instead of standing there and teaching a cop when there’s an unarmed person coming at ’em with a knife or something to shoot ’em in the leg instead of the heart is a very different thing,” explained Biden.

Lot to unpack here but for starters, the perp is not “unarmed” if he is wielding a knife, which is, for the record, a deadly weapon — an implement that can be used to cause death or great bodily harm.  Sorry, Joe. Facts are facts.  

But perhaps to help Uncle Joe out we should examine this scenario in the context of his wife, Jill.  Because she is protected by an armed security detail, and because a lot of these training recommendations and reforms sound good in theory until it’s your wife or your loved facing such an attacker.

Let’s assume for a moment that a large man with a 12-inch Bowie knife is charging Mrs. Biden, and subsequently, her security detail.  

What would Joe have those armed guards do?  Take great care to aim just for the attacker’s moving legs (effectively shrinking the target region)?

Or instruct them to shoot for the biggest target on the body, i.e. center mass, to increase the chances that they land a hit that (God willing) incapacitates this maniac before he plunges the blade of that Bowie deep into the beating heart of Mrs. Biden?

While Uncle Joe takes some time to think about the options more food for thought.

It must be acknowledged that during a stressful situation there are no guarantees that any of the agents will hit the perp, regardless of where they aim. There are also no guarantees that one shot, or even multiple shots, will stop the attacker.

There is another consideration that must be mentioned. The reactionary gap, the time it takes for the agents to respond to the threat.

As many of us know in the gun community thanks to the pioneering work of Sgt. Dennis Tueller, knife-armed assailants can close a distance of 21 feet in about 1.5 seconds.  Only highly practiced shooters stand a chance of drawing and putting shots on target in that short period of time. 

SEE ALSO: The Distance Your Holstered Gun Is Useless Against A Knife-Wielding Attacker

From the holster, anything inside 21 feet, even the most advanced shooters have a hard time engaging the armed attacker at all before the perp lands the first strike with his edged weapon.  And one strike may be all it takes to end a person’s life.

With all this in mind, it becomes overwhelmingly apparent that there is no margin for error. If a large, knife-wielding maniac is storming down on Ms. Biden every reasonable person wants those agents to open fire in a manner that stands the greatest chance of eliminating the threat.  Period! End of discussion.

Barring unusual circumstances, that is instructing and teaching the agents to aim for center mass.

Not to make Uncle Joe too squeamish but follow up head shots may also be necessary (if possible and if the threat does not stop). It’s why certain units practice the Mozambique Drill — two to the body, one to the head.

If you and I understand this, and millions of others with common sense understand this, why doesn’t our former vice president, a man who wants to be the next POTUS, understand this?

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  • Dan October 23, 2020, 10:21 am

    There is not a law enforcement or military training program in the entire world that teaches that leg crap. There are reasons for that. I have seen guys shot through the heart run 50+ yards before collapsing. No artery bleed will stop a turd from stabbing you. Typical lib misinformed stupidity.

  • halfassprepper July 13, 2020, 11:45 am

    Just to be clear… Can someone ask him as Commander In Chief if he will be instructing the drone pilots and soldiers to also aim for the legs? He has had someone (with a gun and trained to use it) standing between him and danger for far too long. He is dethatched from any form of reality.

  • pissedpatriot July 4, 2020, 2:20 pm

    If Joe were the uncle of any sane person they would comfit him to a physc. ward. The man is not only delusional, but dangerous to society.

  • etph June 9, 2020, 5:33 am

    “Lot to unpack here but for starters, the perp is not ‘unarmed’ if he is wielding a knife, which is, for the record, a deadly weapon…”

    I was surprised that I missed this. That guy just doesn’t know when to stop. Also, regarding shooting a shotgun outside of one’s home. Could it be that Joe lives in a secluded area where doing such a silly and stupid thing would only be heard by animals? I can’t imagine he’s that stupid to do something like that around neighbors. Or maybe he truly is.

  • solider for liberty June 8, 2020, 11:05 pm

    Just an old commie!

  • solider for liberty June 8, 2020, 11:05 pm

    Just an old pinko commie!

  • Kent San June 8, 2020, 7:36 am

    I don’t know why we’d expect him to stop being a f-ing idiot at this point.

    • JM June 9, 2020, 2:50 pm

      He can continue being an idiot, he just needs to clear out of our government…

  • Mike Coss June 7, 2020, 9:58 pm

    Folks, we all know many speak of things of which they have little experience or knowledge. To devote an entire article rehashing what we already know just to make ourselves feel superior (preaching to the choir) seems like a great waste of journalism. Do you think Biden supporters are reading Guns America? Do you think any of this rhetoric is changing the minds of those supporters? This is turning into FaceBook where we all pat ourselves on the back for being in the righteous camp and everyone else is the naive fool. There’s no new news here. Get back to bringing us up to date relevant news. Stop being so sanctimonious.

    • Kim R November 22, 2021, 8:01 am

      I am new to all of this self defense training, so this article actually helped me understand why Biden’s comments were incorrect. Please remember that there are always newcomers that are not as knowledgeable that are out here wading through a lot of information and these ‘beginner’ type articles are great. I am searching my area for some basic training courses so I can learn what I need to know in order to carry with confidence and respect. I am thankful for this article that answered (for me) why Biden’s comments were so very wrong.

  • Mark - IN. June 7, 2020, 9:37 pm

    Remember a few years ago when he said that if someone is breaking into your house you should grab a double barrel shotgun and go out onto the porch and start shooting it in the air? That was then but now he’s just Dementia Joe.

  • Chad Kernutt June 7, 2020, 10:17 am

    This from the man who says we should be in the business of truth over the facts. Riiiiiiiiiight. The fact that this is the best the democrats have to offer is saying something. I just want to point out one thing. Joe Biden keeps saying just look at my record when asked what he has done for the black community and he’s never pushed by the media after that. Joe Biden has done nothing for the black community as a senator and sure didn’t do anything for the black community in 8 years as the VP. Joe Biden made the 1994 crime bill which disproportionately locked up black men, he then went and made another bill that changed the severity of the charges between powder cocaine and crack cocaine which again disproportionately affected black men. Trump actually pushed for and got passed the fist step act which released a lot of the black men who were locked up thanks to Joe Biden. Trump has actually fixed the funding for black colleges. Trump has actually reinvested in the black communities and is funneling businesses there that are currently getting looted and destroyed thanks to the militant Antifa and Black Lives Matter groups. This Biden guy for folks paying attention has no credibility and is as dangerous to the black community as he is to law abiding gun owners. I rest my case. Vote for the constitution and common sense in 2020.

  • Skyviking June 7, 2020, 12:14 am

    “… there’s an unarmed person coming at ’em with a knife or something to shoot ’em in the leg instead of the heart…”

    If he doesn’t know/understand the definition of “Unarmed”, then Joe is not sleepy, he’s a moron. This is the guy you Democrats and Leftists want to make President? Yep, it’s not him that’s being put forth for election, it’s his handlers.

  • Jim June 6, 2020, 8:15 pm

    #1 When someone comes at you with a knife, that ARE armed with a deadly weapon! I have seen people, including Officers who were very badly stabbed and slashed by knives and razors!
    #2 Shooting someone in the arm or leg or anywhere except aiming at center mass is stupid and very dangerous as the probability of missing them is very high and that will not stop someone bent of attacking you and trying to kill yu, especially if they are high on drugs. I am a NRA “Master” Shot and have actually won trophies in shooting contests against other Police Officers with the same classification. Additionally shooting someone in the center of the chest also does not mean it will stop him/her. A head shpt tht completely blows the brain into mush is the only thing that will immediately stop them. Still, in an emergency we still never try and shoot our attacker in the head as it would be way too esy to misss.
    Joe Biden is a mentally deficient and senile old man who is also not trained for those situations. I am and it is still something very difficult to wrap ones head around. Many Officers who have had to shoot and kill a suspect resigns because of the mental hardships that puts on them.

  • Charles L Conklin June 6, 2020, 7:40 pm

    Old Joe doesn’t seem like a bad guy, an idiot yes, but not a bad guy.

  • Leighton Cavendish June 6, 2020, 8:31 am

    When Biden took on Corn Pop…was Corn Pop armed or unarmed?
    People want to know…..
    If you don’t know who Corn Pop is…do a quick search

  • Stuart June 6, 2020, 2:12 am

    I wholeheartedly agree with him. Catch the artery and they’re almost guaranteed to bleed out within 2-minutes, 20-seconds at best!.

  • Jack R Leavitt jr June 6, 2020, 12:06 am

    A politician who has the top of world trained security team right next them is so ignorant as not to ask the top elite of military training about there firearms, training and proper use of them Made such public statements was Vice President and running for the presidential office. Maybe he thinks rubber bullets and paint ball guns will end the wars. That just shows how ignorant he is. It shows what he thinks of his constituents He won’t educate himself. He doesn’t respect White House employees or even military leaders to ask them about using arms safety. How can someone like that make it so far in politics. How can someone who knows so little about weapons lead a nation like ours.

    • Chad Kernutr June 7, 2020, 9:41 am

      Rubber bullets are going to be banned now with smoke grenades, stun grenades, tear gas, and pepper spray thanks to Antifa and BLM in partnership with the ACLU.

  • john K June 5, 2020, 8:24 pm

    You confederate flag waving, race hating maroons, think Trump is all it ? Who holds up a BIBLE upside down in front of a CHURCH ? Now think about that carefully. You all claim to be God fearing maybe you should try being God loving and read JOHN Chapter 8 Verse 44-47. Amen.

    • Chad Kernutt June 7, 2020, 9:50 am

      Joe Biden, Barrack Hussein Obama, Bill Clinton, and George Bush. Recent presidents who have posed with the Bible inside and outside of churches for the media. Just saying your hypocrisy stinks as per usual from leftist libs full of Trump Derangement Syndrome. You’re just as bad as Chucky “no tears” Shumer and nervous negative Nancy Pelosi and are keeping in the spirit of truth over the facts as Joe Biden likes to say. You my unintelligent libby friend are FAKE NEWS.

    • Chad Kernutt June 7, 2020, 10:26 am

      And another thing, since your wanting to throw the good book at people what is your stance on abortion? Your clearly throwing your support behind politicians who support the murder of innocent children. What does Jesus have to say about this? It’s interesting that your clearly saying conservatives who voted for Trump are racists when those “racists” are disgusted by and taking a stand for the genocide of black babies. On average 73% of the babies aborted every year are black and it’s very curious that they are always putting the abortion clinics in the inner cities. It’s appalling. You better check yourself my friend because God does not appreciate hypocrites.

  • ALSCV June 5, 2020, 7:53 pm

    Biden you know nothing about the AR rifles. They are easy to use, easy to shoot, are accurate and 30+ round magazines are needed. I am sure you do not understand the AR rifles and would have trouble firing one. Shoot a person in the leg? Yea and later he will have you in court, claiming he surrendered and you still shot him. And an activist judge, like Sullivan will agree with the criminal. Biden wants to take away all AR type rifles. Don’t ever forget this gun owners.

  • Lawrence K. June 5, 2020, 6:17 pm

    Hey sleepy Joe, “a knife or something” in my mind constitutes a weapon of some sort, therefore ‘they’ are armed and as such, ‘they’ are a threat . Do you shoot an enraged bear charging your way in the paw, when it is going to tear you, apart? No, you as calmly as possible shoot to kill. A head shot, or you double-tap center mass. Whatever it takes to eliminate the threat.

    What do you say you and I go boar hunting? I have a feeling you will be the ‘bore’ of the hunt.

  • Marshall June 5, 2020, 5:25 pm

    Sounds like Biden is promoting “knee cappin’.”

  • Bruce Jolly June 5, 2020, 5:20 pm

    Democrats, if this is the best you have to offer, why bother? Save your party, and our country some money, and just throw in the towel now.

    There was simply so much wrong in your last candidate in 2016, and now this one for 2020. There must be someone else you could run for office. But from what I see, you should completely restructure, your party lines. Replace those old dinosaurs, wasting the tax payer’s money. And ask yourself, if you really want to better America, or just act like spoiled and privileged losers?

    Get a clue, and remember your oaths and jobs. Then the people YOU work for, can unite as Americans and get things done.

  • Robert June 5, 2020, 4:09 pm

    Gotta say it; it’s already established that not only is Joe Biden crazy, but he know’s NOTHING about guns lol.

    BUT, with the statement: “Right. Because that’s exactly what one wants to accomplish in a self-defense situation. Emptying their gun, giving away their position”, are you really trying to make us believe that the would-be robber, upon hearing the super loud shots of a 12 gauge, are going to 1. Automatically know that it was a double barrel that was fired, and is now out of ammo. (and even if it was, how do we know they didn’t automatically stuff 2 more shells in there? we dont) 2. Say “Hey, by the sound of those shots, they must be out back!” and 3. Say “holy shit, lets advance torwards the objective! ” You have 11 Bravos breaking into your houses over there man? No you dont.
    I know Biden’s suggestion was absolutely rediculous, but NO ONE’S running torwards the loud shots of a 12 gauge inside some dudes house they just broke into. You’re NUTS if you think anyone’s buying that lol.

    • Jim June 6, 2020, 8:21 pm

      Police Officers run to the sounds of gunfire all the time. They do so to protect those who we are assigned to protect.

  • Gary June 5, 2020, 2:32 pm

    Wasn’t Biden the original inspiration for the author of Forrest Gump? “I’m not a smart man, but I know what a gun do…” I think that was the original saying u til they said it was too violent for that movie…

  • D.J. June 5, 2020, 1:46 pm

    ” I don’t understand your brand of stupid , but I
    admire your dedication to it . “

  • Mike Russell June 5, 2020, 1:44 pm

    Biden is the King of the Dip shits! Is this as good as the Dems have to put up as their candidate!

    When Trump get him in a one on one debate it is going to be a blood bath. Joe will go off the rails.

  • Scott D Kitzerow June 5, 2020, 12:43 pm

    Before you shoot them in the leg, you’d better be sure they don’t have a back pistol, or leg pistol. Don’t forget they should not be there, period!

    If they are robbing you, they have already rob many others.

  • JIMMEY J WILSON June 5, 2020, 12:08 pm

    and this is the best candidate for president that the democrats can find for the 2020 election? the more he runs his mouth he shows he has no clue!this attitude means a sure victory for trump. can you imagine the country led by biden and his disiples?

  • ditpook June 5, 2020, 12:07 pm

    When I studied the law, a knife and a gun were both considered deadly weapons and it is safe to assume someone coming at you with a knife is not intending to just scare you or ‘stab you in the leg’. When the local police use our gun club range for their shooting drills, one of them is the 7 yard rule. A man comes at you from 7 yards away with a rubber knife and you have that much time to shoot him. IN EVERY CASE THE KNIFE ATTACKER WAS ON THE POLICE OFFICER BEFORE HE COULD UNHOLSTER HIS WEAPON. 7 YARDS. I think Biden has rice pudding for brains and having secret service around all the time allows him to have such a cavalier attitude. He is known for other buffoonery, like only needing a double barreled shotgun to fire off the balcony to scare away the boogeyman. True, that, and six heavily armed secret service professionals will do the trick.

    • Scott June 7, 2020, 1:10 pm

      Let alone the fact that Biden’s legal advice here would most certainly result in the defender getting thrown in jail.

      In court:
      The attacker’s attorney: “So you shot my client in the leg because you didn’t want to kill him?”
      Defender on the witness stand: “Yes, I wanted to stop him, but didn’t want to kill him, so I shot him in the leg.”
      Attackers attorney: “So you admit in open court that you didn’t think the circumstances warranted DEADLY FORCE, but you drew a DEADLY WEAPON and proceeded to use DEADLY FORCE against my client? No further questions, Your Honor.”

      The sound of the cell door slamming shut behind you will resonate in your mind longer and louder than the sound of the shot that put you there.

  • Russell English June 5, 2020, 12:01 pm

    The stupidity that is Joe Biden rears it’s truthful head again. He is such an imbecile. Does he really think his Secret Service people are going to shoot a knife wielding attacker in the legs. Please wake up America and see this stupid idiot for the true imbecile he is.

  • Harold June 5, 2020, 11:56 am

    This is a person hiding in his basement, possible sends his wife to the balcony as bait.

  • Grant Stevens June 5, 2020, 11:31 am

    Maybe Biden should tell the thugs who are rioting and looting not to bring a knife to a gun fight. If more of these sub-humans were taken out of the gene pool, there would be less problems in the world.

  • Pat J June 5, 2020, 11:30 am

    Severed femoral artery is a heart shot, nearly instant bleed-out.
    I guess it’s more of a conscious, terrifying, but potentially cheaper death.

    • DANO June 6, 2020, 9:50 am

      Even a shot to the tibial artery in the calf will bleed out before EMS arrival.

      Ask me how I know

  • John Stanton June 5, 2020, 9:52 am

    Contrary to the accepted fact that a head shot will immediately stop an attacker, if biden was hit with a head shot it would have no effect since there are no vital organs there.

    • Russell English June 5, 2020, 12:01 pm

      Well said.

    • DANO June 6, 2020, 9:51 am

      Please don’t. We’d all be sucked in.

  • Scott Morris June 5, 2020, 9:42 am

    He’s an idiot!

  • Tom June 5, 2020, 9:41 am

    I could see Dr. Jill Biden following her husband’s advice. Goes outside, fires the shotgun and then a Secret Service Agent fall out of a tree. It could happen. Way to go, Joe!

  • Barry Sawyer June 5, 2020, 9:14 am

    I watched the movie “Sinister” and it scared the hell out of me! Listening to Joe Biden makes that movie seem like a Disney cartoon!

    Joe Biden is very scary!

  • Frank June 5, 2020, 9:06 am

    Joe and all the other Dems. need to be put on the front line against these lunatics. 2 birds with one stone. Proof that his thought process is moronic and … the other is obvious

  • pete June 5, 2020, 8:48 am

    Biden shoots his mouth off, We know that. But he’s a damn site better than the current horror we have as ‘president’, who says idiot things practically every time his lips move. Mattis is right. Got to go.

    • Tom June 5, 2020, 9:44 am

      Interesting (twisted) view of the world you have. You like China, do you? That’s Joe’s favorite country. Mattis was fired for a reason. Now we know why. He thinks like you. Idiot.

    • Chien Rouge June 5, 2020, 9:44 am

      Ha ! Mattis was even too ineffective for Obama and had to fire him also. Mad Dog is more Pussy cat. Biden says stupid stuff but if given the chance he will try and gut the 2nd Amendment. Trump is standing up for the Constitution.

    • Michael R Stuhr June 5, 2020, 10:07 am

      Well, I will cancel your vote with mine.

    • Dave June 5, 2020, 10:22 am

      What does Trump say that is that bad every day. Can’t back that up can you? You want to talk about Trump, give us hard evidence and not the Democrat way. Just accuses with nothing to back it up.

    • Ib Larsen June 5, 2020, 11:37 am

      Sorry, I like my guns. Hard to imagine you are on a pro-gun site.

    • Danny June 5, 2020, 2:05 pm

      Pete, my Daddy said it’s better to remain silent a thought a Fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. I think you have successed. Why don’t you and your Socialist want to be find a country that wants morons of your caliber and quit trying to destroy the country I fought for. And a many of my fellow Americans have died for.

      • Jeff Merrell June 5, 2020, 4:25 pm

        Danny, interesting that my Dad used to say the exact same thing, word-for-word.

  • JORGE GARCIA June 5, 2020, 8:48 am

    People waste too much time to live out these scenarios, dont get me wrong, I think Biden is mistaken, shooting at the feet might look like a great idea, but I think if you train police to not waste time pulling out a big old gun out of a holster, why not train them how to trip them instead. way more efficient and less messy. then once on the ground we can simply slap him into submission. GOD SAVE US ALL, FOR WE WILL NOT SURVIVE THE BIGGEST THREAT THIS COUNTRY IS FACING TODAY, STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!!!

    • KimberproSS June 5, 2020, 9:44 am

      Your are correct. Everyone knows that a knife wielding criminal is only going to stab in the arms.

    • gary holfstra June 5, 2020, 10:09 am


  • Nick June 5, 2020, 8:05 am

    Yep, once a day, Joe says something dumb. And, yes he knows little about guns and self defense. On the other hand, once a minute Trump says something completely idiotic, blatantly lies or utters gibberish.

    • Tom B June 5, 2020, 11:10 am

      You should listen to what Trump actually says and NOT what the left-wing media and Adam Schiff say he said.

    • Russell English June 5, 2020, 12:05 pm

      Says the fool who still thinks Obama was a great President. You are a fool and prove it every time you comment. You watch too much Rachel Maddie in your mommy’s basement. She needs to up your meds.

    • Gary June 5, 2020, 2:28 pm

      Nick I think you are being a little unfair to Biden. To say he ONLY says 1 dumb thing a day is waaaaaaaay off. I’d assume every other word out of his mouth is a fallacy. I keep hoping he’ll have a stroke and fall over and die, however after listening to this I wonder if he already had a stroke…

  • Mark June 5, 2020, 7:42 am

    Please! Don’t be so hard on Biden! A lot of people with an IQ of less than 10 say stupid things. Especially when they are told what to say by people handling him who have an IQ of less than 15. They may be a lot smarter than him, but still haven’t a clue about reality!!!!

  • Dr Motown June 5, 2020, 6:58 am

    Sleepy Joe should produce an instructional video where he shows us all how he would do it…🤓

  • Robert Collins June 5, 2020, 6:43 am

    He’s an idiot!

  • Hendrik Joseph Haan June 5, 2020, 6:33 am

    Can you imagine this moron being a war-time POTUS? It fills me with angst,for the good of our country, that I might not live long enough to vote against him!

  • Michael June 5, 2020, 6:02 am

    Hey Joe….Ever hear of a thing called the Femoral Artery? Many a soldier has either lost his leg or Died from a leg wound. And “the Knife?” If someone is coming “At Me!” with a knife…he is NOT Unarmed!

  • GARY June 5, 2020, 5:55 am

    You forget Joe wants Truth over Facts! How in the world can anyone seriously consider this person a leader?

  • H.J.Meiroff June 5, 2020, 5:54 am

    Do you think he has ever heard of the femoral artery? Good possibility you are dead before aid can be administered with this “hit in the leg”.

  • David June 5, 2020, 5:32 am

    Never did have much of an intellect. This just goes to prove it. If I have a knife and I get within ten feet of you, shooting me in the leg will NOT keep me from cutting your head off.

  • Phil B. June 5, 2020, 5:15 am

    There’s a reason all of our “enemies” are pulling for Creepy Sleepy Uncle Joe to win in November. You don’t have to look to hard or deep to discover why.

  • Ike June 5, 2020, 4:51 am

    So when I his security detail has to defend his pathetic arse, make it policy that they can only shoot legs…

  • ICE June 5, 2020, 3:54 am

    Question for UNCLE JOE BIDEN in this scenerio is HE going to be the one who pays the monetary settlement arising from the CIVIL SUIT filed by the PERP shot in the leg ? Wounded perps SUE ! DEAD PERPS DO NOT SUE !

  • Bobs your uncle June 3, 2020, 11:34 am

    First rule, if someone is threatening to attack you with a knife and its looking like they could make good on it start shooting, center mass and you might survive. Joe keep the mask on it suites you you f—ing thief!

  • Give Me Freedom June 2, 2020, 6:19 pm

    This is the best the Democrat Party has to offer for President? He is a senile, Green New Deal, pervert, private gun confiscator. Heaven help us if he wins the Presidential election.

    • David June 5, 2020, 5:46 am

      He could never win legally. Watch for democrat criminality. This could be the most corrupt election cycle yet.

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