California Lawmakers Respond to San Bernardino in the Most Illogical Way Possible

(Photo: WSJ)

(Photo: WSJ)

California lawmakers have responded to the San Bernardino terrorist attacks in the only way they know how: by making it more difficult for law-abiding Californians to defend themselves against another attack.

The Senate last week approved 11 bills that all restrict the use, purchase, and manufacture of firearms and ammunition.

It’s a massive slate of bills, all of which are designed to disarm lawful residents of the Golden State. Here are three of the most significant:

  • SB 1235 requires background checks to buy ammunition.
  • SB 1446 bans the ownership of any ammunition clip that holds more than 10 rounds.
  • SB 880 expands the legal definition of an “assault weapon” to include a group of rifles with ammunition clips that can be quickly swapped out by using a bullet to push a small release button.

Expanding the legal definition of “assault weapon” in this way effectively bans all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines, according to the Los Angeles Times.

“Gun violence has reached epidemic proportions across our nation,” Senate President Pro Tem Kevin De León told his fellow Senators. “We cannot stand by while our communities suffer from this horrific violence. These proposals take common sense steps to keep weapons and ammunition out of the hands of criminals.”

Senator De León failed to explain how additional laws would keep guns out of the hands of people who, by definition, do not obey the law.

He also failed to address the fact that the San Bernardino terrorists bought their guns legally and later modified them. None of the proposed measures outlaw gunsmithing tools, so it isn’t clear how these new laws would keep terrorists from modifying future rifles in a similar fashion.

The bills must now pass the Assembly, which, according to the Times, has traditionally stood up for gun rights more so than the Senate. Unfortunately for Californians, Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon said this week he is committed to pushing the measures through.

The best hope for the pro-gun community in California may come from Gov. Jerry Brown, who, though a Democrat, has vetoed a number of anti-gun bills that he believed were overreaching.

According to ABC 7, Gov. Brown vetoed the legislature’s last attempt to expand the definition of an “assault weapon” because he felt it exceeded their rightful power. Gov. Brown is by no means friendly to the Second Amendment, but he doesn’t seem overly inclined to make California’s strict gun laws much stricter.

Pro-gun California legislators—along with the National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of California, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation—voiced their disapproval of the measures but haven’t been able to gain much traction in the legislature.

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  • Pedro May 28, 2016, 11:23 pm

    It should already be painfully obvious that legislation is not going to fix any of the issues they are trying to solve. Last time I checked homicide was illegal. So how can further firearm restrictions improve that?

    • Boba Fett May 29, 2016, 11:24 am

      Exactly. It must be so frustrating for California lawmakers to know deep inside that all of their efforts amount to nothing more than a huge pile of feel-good bullshit that achieve absolutely nothing.

  • Chris Baker May 28, 2016, 9:45 pm

    So Californians drive to Nevada, Arizona, Oregon and buy lots of ammunition and bring it back. Maybe someday the voters will come to their senses and stop electing these liberals to represent them in the legislature. Maybe they should try to elect someone who actually understands what “shall not be infringed” really means.

    • badbob June 1, 2016, 3:56 am

      We don’t want Californians in Arizona. They elected these tyrants so they can reap what they sow. Want your Second Amendment back then put your elected idiots where they belong. Didn’t they swear an oath to the Constitution Here’s a clue they aren’t honoring that oath. So pull,drag, or whatever them from office and try them in a citizen court then hang them. I got out of that state in the late 70’s when it was bad. I can’t even vision what a mess those Liberals/traitors have made it today and don’t want to know. Catering to everything sick and perverted. Their dumping half their fresh water in the bay to save a fish called the Smelt then taking a count and have one. That’s one Smelt Or the law of being finger printed when buying ammo. As all stupid and unconstitutional gun laws your terminator governor came on the TV telling how this law would stop crime while the same day the state released thousands of felons from California prisons for over crowding. Not only sick but real stupid. Tell me there California how the murder rate in LA? Anyway keep up with the gun laws, it will keep Arizona terrorist free.

  • Kivaari May 28, 2016, 1:07 am

    It is amazing that the law makers can lie about gun violence being so bad, when except for big democrat BLACK controlled cities, crime is down, whole gun ownership is up. When did a legal gun owner go on a Islamic rampage attack killing people they knew?

  • ProtoCulture May 27, 2016, 6:56 pm

    People want to talk bad about about Gov Brown, but he might be the only thing standing between us and these ridiculous laws.

  • Kalashnikov Dude May 27, 2016, 3:57 pm

    Looks like Californians are going to have to fight. Try banning my guns in Arizona and see what happens when you come to take em. Hint, you better bring a lunch.

    • badbob June 1, 2016, 4:03 am

      As soon as California has made the Constitution null and void and is void of all weapons Arizona will invade unless God has something else planed. After all he put that fault line there for a reason.

  • Jeremiah43832 May 27, 2016, 1:44 pm

    This may sound nit picky, but do those laws actually call it a clip? If so then it could be argued in court over wether or not it applies to magazines.

  • Kel May 27, 2016, 1:11 pm

    guess they are using the old ‘death by a thousand cuts’ offensive instead of overt registry/confiscation…

  • Larry May 27, 2016, 12:55 pm

    This is just one more example of the proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

  • Grizz May 27, 2016, 12:16 pm

    Hey guys, it’s California we’re taking about here. Most of them are sheep and when the shit hits the fan most of them will be in the camps.

    • djw663 May 27, 2016, 1:56 pm

      The major cities in California are where, as you state, the sheep live. The other 78% of the real estate and where the rest of the people live, are not like those of whom you are referring to. But yes they will run and hide.

    • Bob May 27, 2016, 2:12 pm

      Most Californians are not sheep. The problem is that the larger citys like LA and San Fransico which are largely democrats have the largest number of “votes”. So the more conservative areas of California are outnumbered when it comes to voting. Unfortunately for us we keep getting crapped on.

    • Dochashknife May 27, 2016, 7:20 pm

      Hey as a 3rd gen Californian I resent that remark. What you are seeing is the take over by the East coast transplants.

  • james coyne May 27, 2016, 11:42 am

    Governor Brown has stated that he will veto these bills so that they will never become law. This is just a grandstand on the part of a few lawmakers to try and depict themselves as concerned legislators. Am more ill at ease with the laws/taxes recently enacted in Seattle where they have placed a tax on all firearms sold in the city as well as a nickel/per round tax for all ammo sold within the city. Laws infringing on the 2nd amendment will not be successful. Taxes on firearms & ammo, on the other hand, are more insidious and should be fought every time they arise.

    • Larry May 27, 2016, 12:57 pm

      The pro Second folks, both dealers & consumers can solve this leftist BS problem very simnply. Every dealer should move out of the city limits. Ring the city line & sell your goods free of the city’s stupid tax scheme.

    • djw663 May 27, 2016, 1:58 pm

      I know he has vetoed bills like this before and I hope he does it again. These “leaders” are incredibly stupid people.

    • James L October 7, 2016, 11:31 pm

      He signed half of them. Is it tree watering time yet?

  • Crusty One May 27, 2016, 11:22 am

    This quote from de Leon should explain a lot about California politics:

    “I think it’s too risky to put a lot of hard work, decades of hard work, before the voters of California. We don’t know if it passes or not,” de Leon said. “But if we can get it done in the legislative body, the question is, why not do it?”

    He’s saying don’t trust the voting public, we can do what we want.

    • Ed May 28, 2016, 9:32 am

      The bleeding heart Cali’s can’t read the fine print b/c is not bilingual! You’ll have to subtitle your print! Cost too much money! This a tongue in cheek joke! So chill!

  • law dawg May 27, 2016, 11:18 am

    Folks too much talk and no action…..time to step up and do something. Why should the liberals dictate to anyone there agenda. People that don’t like guns, good don’t have one. But don’t push their bullshit beliefs on others. The government is so f’d up with morons running it. The politicians like Diane idiotstein and her butt boy de Leon have no clue…the ca. government and federal government is on a quest to disarm law abiding citizens by making hundreds of laws that it’s physically impossible to know them all….. liberals are nothing but criminals in suits……. time’s short vote the libs out and bombard these losers with letters tell them get it right or get voted out.

    • Richard May 28, 2016, 4:11 am

      Kudos LD, It boggles the mind the ‘non logic’s these idiots use to make supposed ‘logic’ It’s all about ‘ power and control’ They are the ‘anti freedom fighter’s. The liberal ‘left’ is extremely vocal. Time for our counter voices to shout them down!

    • Ed May 28, 2016, 9:50 am

      I move away from Cali 10 years ago. I can’t believe that idiotstien and boxser are still around! They were older than dirt back in the day! They should know what was meant when the 2nd Amendment was written. There are sketches of them in the background!

  • Steve G May 27, 2016, 11:05 am

    Go watch/re-watch the movie “Idiocracy”. It gives an excellent portrayal of what this country is sliding towards — led by Commiefornia, New Jersey, New York, etc.

  • Fred Miller May 27, 2016, 10:40 am

    Why on earth do we have to listen to people who refer to a magazine as a “clip”? Most of these folks have probably never even SEEN a clip !!

  • 2War Abn Vet May 27, 2016, 10:16 am

    It’s the Democrat/leftist mindset. Somebody commits a crime; you rush to punish everyone who didn’t.

  • Me May 27, 2016, 10:14 am

    Amerika is done…get ready….

  • Eddie May 27, 2016, 9:40 am

    Why don’t they just pass a law that says you can’t shoot people in the name of Islam

    • perry May 27, 2016, 12:32 pm

      libs would say that’s racist.

  • Mark Are May 27, 2016, 9:39 am

    You people need to understand WHY the 2nd amendment was put into the Constitution. It was PUT THERE so that you would have the ABILITY to shoot tyrants. That’s right, to SHOOT THEM. Not for hunting, not for collecting guns, not for any other purpose but to be able to shoot your oppressors in the head. The RED COATS of the day would be those who would dare to enforce the “kings” edicts such as this and if people would get together and understand the same about liberty that 36 year old Patrick Henry did so many years ago..that LIBERTY is more valuable then LIFE and be willing to say to your oppressors, GIVE ME LIBERTY or I’LL GIVE YOUR YOUR DEATH and be willing to actually fight for freedom in the process not giving a crap about what “they” say about you in the media afterwards, then things will change. Voting less psychopathic people can help in the long run but normal people don’t want to be “leaders”. Go watch Dr Susanna Hupp on Youtube EXPLAIN the meaning of the 2nd amendment.

    • Dave Smith May 27, 2016, 10:38 am

      People now do not understand what liberty or freedom are. As the saying goes, you don’t miss it until it is gone. The public (government) schools do not teach such things, so most of the kids who went to public schools don’t have a clue. Unfortunately, once the government has taken away enough of the freedoms to really cause pain to the average folks, it will be too late to do anything about it, short of violence or perhaps war.
      The public schools mostly teach that socialism, spawn of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin, is the ideal system.
      What we need to do is to make it abundantly clear to everyone who will listen that what we need for politicians are people who emulate Patrick Henry, not the wussies who cave in to the Democrats every demand like Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell, and definitely not those who want to destroy our freedoms like Hillary.

      • Chris Baker May 28, 2016, 9:52 pm

        We actually had the man we needed and the voters voted for another charlatan. Trump will tell you one thing one day and later that same day, sometimes in the same conversation, he will completely contradict himself. He is nothing but a Hugo Chavez wannabe.

  • BigC May 27, 2016, 9:28 am

    It’s KALIFORNIA!!! Have these F’n morons EVER done ANYTHING logical?

  • Robert Ortega May 27, 2016, 9:23 am

    California Über Alles

  • Mike C May 27, 2016, 9:15 am

    So Cal resident here – I’d like to know who keeps VOTING these ass-tards into office. It certainly wasn’t me or anyone I know. You talk to the average person here- even those who do not own a firearm – and none of them would agree these potential laws do anything to prevent criminals from obtaining firearms. This is stupidity at its finest. Even a half-wit could understand there is no resulting benefit.

    • Floyd Kobler May 27, 2016, 10:12 am

      Careful with the half wit comments someone might think your talking about your president yes I’m an American but he’s not MY leader

      • James L October 7, 2016, 11:57 pm

        Don’t refer to 0bama as a half-wit. That’s giving him way too much credit. A quarter-wit would be more than generous.

  • Tripwire May 27, 2016, 9:11 am

    The thing that pisses me off the most is that millions of honest gun owning Americans vote as Democrats because their union tells them too or because their Great Grandpa, Grand Pa, Dad all voted that way.
    How can any freedom loving American vote for a political party who is dedicated to destroying those very freedoms?
    I understand why the “Give it to me for free” bunch vote for the Hillery’s but why do others who value their rights?
    I don’t exactly trust any politician but I refuse to vote for somebody who says she is going to take away my rights!
    And I know a great number of those reading this GA news letter are Democrats, so will you vote away my rights as well as yours?

    • Lance May 27, 2016, 2:41 pm

      In a way a lot of Union members probably do but a lot don’t. I’m a Union Journeyman Electrician but I will not let them dictate who I will vote for or tell me what I can drink or wear . I make my own decisions and I sure as hell won’t vote demorat! I have my own mind and I use it. Do not lump us all into one category cause you know that doesn’t fit and don’t put something down you know nothing about. Enough said.

    • Chris Baker May 28, 2016, 9:55 pm

      I voted democrat early on because my parents did. Then I learned the truth about democrats and haven’t voted for one since.

  • Mark Are May 27, 2016, 9:10 am

    It isn’t the “law” makers that are the problem. The problem is the man or woman who would dare to ENFORCE these insane edicts for a pension and paycheck. If the people of California were willing to shoot enforcers of violence against them with a bullet in the face, no one would want the job as the enforcer. PERIOD. And the enforcers have no right to enforce any “law” that violates the Constitution. PERIOD. When the people wake up to that fact, this crap will start to go away. Now I suspect this won’t get published because, hey, it’s the TRUTH and really, who wants to hear or read THAT now days.

  • Dan W May 27, 2016, 8:26 am

    My God, those people are idiots! From Obama to Hillary and on down the ladder…

  • Richard Grim May 27, 2016, 7:21 am

    Commiefornia has gone full retard!

  • 50bmg api May 27, 2016, 6:25 am

    “It’s a massive slate of bills, all of which are designed to disarm lawful residents of the Golden State.”

    These are code words for:

    “lets disarm the Goyim so the filthy nation wrecking Talmudic whores can rule them better and easier!”

    Yepper, “blue states” are dead to me and will never ever live in one!!!

  • Ted May 27, 2016, 6:01 am

    Seems to me that Senator De León and the NRA should have an open debate on these issues.

    • Ed May 28, 2016, 9:54 am

      Does DeLeon speakadi engli? Yo quero Taco Bell!

      • Pedro May 28, 2016, 11:15 pm

        Hey Ed, would you ask the same of the Ortega’s, Fernandez’s, Sanchez’s, Ortiz’s currently serving our country?

  • Robert May 27, 2016, 5:40 am

    Wow……The state that has “open” arms for illegals and sanctuaries for criminals is worried about violence becoming a problem. So the state passes laws that CRIMINALS won’t obey……They broke a law crossing the border, can “relax” in cities where law enforcement is lax. Good going California……..So these laws will make the honest citizens feel safe…….But SO WILL THE CRIMINALS…….

  • Matt May 27, 2016, 2:56 am

    I live in god forsaken California and honestly am sort of afraid of these proposed bills because I would need to export some of my shooting equipment out of CA in order to stay legal. Wtf.

    I haven’t read the bills…do they actually say clips or mags?

    • Mark Are May 27, 2016, 9:14 am

      Be willing to FIGHT for freedom and shoot enforcers in the head. Going to Iraq or Afghanistan isn’t fighting for freedom. Blowing away dirt bags that take a job putting people in cages for violating “laws” that are in total contradiction of the Constitution is the only way it is going to stop. I’ve made my mind up years ago. And so far haven’t had to do it. But if it happens, well, my wife won’t be the only widow that day.

    • Lance May 27, 2016, 2:51 pm

      Do you really think they’re going to come knocking on your door? Get real, the enforcement of these laws are impossible and they’re not going to go door to door looking because somebody would let loose. Stop being afraid and stand up and say no more! If you now down then they win. What they don’t know won’t hurt them and get smart, don’t advertise for one thing. You’ll be fine, you’re thinking of doing exactly what they’re hoping you do by talking about getting rid of your stuff, to hell with them I say! These supposed laws are asking for nothing but problems and those problems are way bigger than what you have. Just my opinion.

      • D Noffsinger May 27, 2016, 7:04 pm

        Yes, “They” will come knocking on doors. This is already happening in California as well as in most States. Persons disqualified through the VA or through their doctors due to drugs prescribed or a “Depression” diagnosis are having their firearms take from them through no-knock raids or “Welfare inspections” all the time..

        • Johnny B July 2, 2016, 10:19 am

          The new norm is if you are a suspect and the SWAT or police have a search warrant, they won’t hesitate to give you additional felony charges for any additional laws being broken, like a previously legal 20 mag tucked in the closet. Think Al Capone for tax evasion.

          Things are changing, If child protective services came to my house in 1980, we were playing in the street without adult supervision or playing with fireworks, yet that was acceptable back then. I feel bad for the new generation who will assume they are protected by all of these laws until someone threatens their life and no gun is to be found. No one should live in fear. Law makers who fail to uphold the Constitution should be reported to the Bar Association and be disbarred for failing to uphold the existing legal system setup by our fore-fathers. There has to be a better way to call these attention seeking law makers on their BS for votes and hold them accountable. FOR EXAMPLE, the last CA bill against drones fully infringed on FAA federal law for new airspace regulation, yet it passes and went all the way to the governor before a veto. WTF?

  • American May 25, 2016, 10:07 pm

    SB880 Would ban bolt action modern hunting rifles of all calibers. Doesn’t matter that most hunting rifles come under a 5 round limit for hunting in most states.This kind of action by lawmakers is proof that they are afraid of the citizens of their own city.

    • S. Velez May 27, 2016, 5:19 am

      Golden State now in three tug political state the Constitution of the United States of America don’t mind nothing to your political NAZIZ regimen Heil Dianne Focking Feinstein!!!!!!
      Stupidity is the name of the game in there minds.

    • JRD May 27, 2016, 8:46 am

      And yet they kept letting more criminals in that they are afraid of. DUH! Liberalism is a mental disease!

    • James L October 8, 2016, 12:05 am

      They don’t have enough fear of us…yet.
      When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
      Thomas Jefferson

  • taxx73 May 25, 2016, 5:34 pm

    I have 3 words to describe the political status quo in Commiefornia- Unconstitutional Dumb Asses!!!! Criminals DON’T follow laws. That’s why they’re called criminals. Obviously their “common sense” and real common sense are 2 different things. LEAVE OUR RIGHTS ALONE!!!!!!!!!!

    • Robert Robertson May 27, 2016, 6:24 am

      You don’t even need three words. All you need is one word to describe the lunatics and the ridiculous actions. As usual, when these people do something is normally stupid in many cases dangerous. When you have a governor better known by his Californian name, I’m not exactly sure which one would governor Moonbeam or governor sunshine one of those two. All you have to do to say the cause-and-effect is CALIFORNIA. That pretty much equates to stupidity

      • ProtoCulture May 27, 2016, 9:11 pm

        People want to talk bad about about Gov Brown, but he might be the only thing standing between us and these ridiculous laws.

  • John May 25, 2016, 4:04 pm

    On the “assault weapons” ban does is really say “clips” because on definition that would exclude box magazine fed weapons. Unless they define “clips” generally. A real case could be made here.

    • Frank Hamrah May 27, 2016, 8:43 am

      In reading the proposed laws, it says ammunition feeding devices-not clips.

      • Fro May 28, 2016, 6:29 pm

        Ammunition feeding devices! Those Great Heaping MORONS. They’re passing laws to take away FINGERS. A good old fashioned lawyer could tie this insanity by Californicators up in court by the semantics of their Libtardery. Petition the CONgress people to put these stupid items on a ballot for Nov. Then vote all the POCs & SOBs out of office. Unless of course, they are rigging the vote count. Wouldn’t put it past them. Worked for BHO.

  • Mike D. May 25, 2016, 1:24 pm

    I just don’t get the “pass more laws” concept. There mass murderers are not going to follow the law, which is why they are murdering people. The article is correct- These lawmakers should be working to make it easier for the law-abiding victims of these criminals to defend themselves.

    • JRD May 27, 2016, 8:57 am

      The defective thinking of liberal democrats is that passing a law is the same as doing it. It doesn’t make any difference to them if it doesn’t work.

      Conservatives need to understand the democrats and liberals are working on a UTOPIAN idea of what they think is right. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t work in the real world. This makes it really scary that these idiots are walking around loose. It is their mental disease.

      • James L October 8, 2016, 12:12 am

        The mental illness of liberals is only part of it. The largest issue regarding gun control isn’t really about guns per se. It’s about the CONTROL over every aspect of our lives. Our money, food, healthcare, education, freedom. If the citizenry has access to guns, the control of them is more difficult.

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