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Debate Watch: ’There’s No Doubt I Respect the 2A,’ Says Clinton

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Wednesday night marked the last time we’ll see Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump on the presidential debate stage for 2016. In less than three weeks, either Clinton or Trump will be our next POTUS.

If you watched last night then you saw, as I did, the Second Amendment take center stage at the outset of the debate. It was raised by Trump after Fox News’ Chris Wallace asked the candidates about their views on the Supreme Court and the Constitution.

“We need a Supreme Court that in my opinion is going to uphold the second amendment and all amendments, but the second amendment which is under absolute siege,” said Trump in his response.

“I believe, if my opponent should win this race, which I truly don’t think will happen, we will have a second amendment which will be a very, very small replica of what it is right now,” the GOP nominee continued.

Trump added that the 20 or so potential appointees he’s named all have a “conservative bent,” would protect the Second Amendment and “interpret the Constitution the way the founders wanted it interpreted.”

Wallace followed up Trump’s response by asking Clinton specifically about a statement she made in which she claimed, “The Supreme Court got it wrong on the Second Amendment,” and whether that was in reference to the high court’s 2008 landmark Heller Decision that struck down the D.C. ban on handguns and affirmed that the Second Amendment is an individual right not contingent upon militia service.

Clinton responded, “Well, first of all, I support the second amendment. I lived in Arkansas for 18 wonderful years. I represented upstate New York. I understand and respect the tradition of gun ownership that goes back to the founding of our country, but I also believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation.”

The Democratic presidential nominee went on to name some of her “reasonable regulation,” mentioning “comprehensive background checks,” the “need to close the online loophole,” and the “gun show loophole.” She said these regulations are sensible and “are not in any way conflicting with the Second Amendment.”

As far as her explanation of opposing the Supreme Court’s Heller decision, Clinton said that the “District of Columbia was trying to do was to protect toddlers from guns. And so they wanted people with guns to safely store them. And the court did not accept that reasonable regulation but they’ve accepted many others.”

Wallace then pivoted backed to Trump and asked him if he found Hillary’s answer convincing, i.e., that she wants to protect the Second Amendment.

Trump missed an opportunity to hammer Clinton on her anti-gun views, and instead repeated himself about how Clinton was “extremely angry about it [the Heller decision],” and that she was “very, very angry,” and “Hillary was extremely upset,” and “extremely angry,” and that Second Amendment supporters were “very upset with what she had to say.”

Wallace asked Clinton if she was upset. In a slippery move, she ducked the question and brought up “dozens of toddlers” injuring themselves and “even killing people with guns” because gun owners don’t take appropriate precautions with loaded firearms (NOTE: this coincides with a Brady PSA released this week, entitled, “Guns Don’t Kill People, Toddlers Kill People“).

Clinton then said, “But there is no doubt that I respect the second amendment. That I also believe there is an individual right to bear arms. That is not in conflict with sensible, common sense regulation.”

Wow. Just wow. Folks, I have to say it, but Clinton cleaned Trump’s clock on this question. Trump, who is clearly not well read on this issue, could not hold Hillary’s feet to the fire on any of her anti-gun views.

To recap, here are Hillary’s positions on the Second Amendment:

  • Does Clinton support banning commonly owned and widely popular black rifles? Yes.
  • Does Clinton support banning magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition? Yes.
  • Does Clinton support a national gun registration? Yes.
  • Does Clinton support criminalizing private transfers? Yes.
  • Does Clinton support Australian-style (mandatory) gun buyback program aka confiscation? Yes.
  • Does Clinton support May-Issue or No-Issue concealed carry laws? Yes.
  • Does Clinton oppose the Heller decision affirming one’s individual right to keep and bear arms? Yes.
  • Does Clinton support repealing the law (PLCAA) that protects gun makers from frivolous lawsuits? Yes.

That whole line about her being upset with the Heller decision because it didn’t protect toddlers is complete B.S. Brilliantly, she’s found a way to pivot from the central point of the Heller decision, which as mentioned struck down the D.C. ban on handguns and affirmed one’s individual right to keep and bear arms, and make it about the storage of firearms to protect toddlers.

Do you want to know where that whole toddler line came about? Well, after audio was leaked from a fundraiser in New York, in 2015, where Clinton said, “the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get,” one of her policy advisors came up with this line of nonsense.

“Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided in that cities and states should have the power to craft common sense laws to keep their residents safe, like safe storage laws to prevent toddlers from accessing guns,” Maya Harris, a policy adviser to Clinton, said in an e-mailed statement to Bloomberg News in May of 2016. “In overturning Washington D.C.’s safe storage law, Clinton worries that Heller may open the door to overturning thoughtful, common sense safety measures in the future.”

It’s a sleight of hand, is what it is. Clinton is engaged in a clever play of misdirection.  See, safe storage laws currently exist in places like Massachusetts and New York and California. States have the power to pass those laws, specifically as it relates to the transportation of firearms and storing firearms not in use.

Now, in addition to the D.C. handgun ban, Heller also struck down a draconian D.C. law that required gun owners to keep all firearms disassembled or inoperable, even those kept around for self-defense (Can you imagine being required to keep a trigger lock on your concealed carry pistol or your home defense AR disassembled?).  However, there was no mention of this D.C. storage requirement in relation to saving children or toddlers.  That was pure B.S. fabricated by Clinton’s policy wonk.

On the whole, Heller doesn’t stand in the way of certain safe storage laws nor does it stand in the way of “reasonable regulations” per the ruling penned by the late Justice Antonin Scalia. What Heller stops is overtly draconian gun laws, i.e. the D.C. ban on handguns or the D.C. law that requires one to keep one’s home defense gun disassembled.

So, by opposing Heller, what Clinton is actually saying is she wants to go back to the age of pre-Heller where states and local government have carte blanche to gut the Second Amendment as they see fit. If given the opportunity, she will appoint justices that embrace this perspective and overturn what has become the safeguard for gun rights in the USA.

Another worthy point to consider is that Clinton has flip-flopped on whether the Second Amendment is and individual right to keep and bear arms or one contingent upon militia service. At the debate Wednesday night she said she accepted it as an “individual right,” but a few months back she completely dodged the question in an interview with ABC New’s George Stephanopoulos.

So, there you have it. We have one candidate who knows very little about the Second Amendment but has promised to protect it via an allegiance to the NRA and conservative appointees to the Supreme Court. And we have another candidate who has been openly hostile to the Second Amendment and has vowed to chip away at it in all sorts of creative ways. While our choice in this election is not ideal, it’s certainly clear. I know who I’m voting for, how about you?

{ 47 comments… add one }
  • Rich October 26, 2016, 1:07 pm

    Had I been in the audience, I’m certain my loud and honest retort would have lead to a hasty, escorted departure…

  • Chris Baker October 26, 2016, 12:06 am

    Regarding anything Hillary Clinton says about anything let alone the 2nd amendment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtTGfWDamVE
    (Liar, by Three Dog Night)

  • Steve Douglas October 24, 2016, 9:44 am

    “If I get elected, we’ll take a serious look at a mandatory gun buy back program” Quoting Hillary Clinton. She’s wisely backed off her 2nd amendment bashing. She’ll say anything to get elected. Remember that when you vote for president. And, I can’t stress the need to vote for a republican congress that will handcuff the possible elected democratic president. Good chance she gets elected by a feminist and liberal thinking, brainwashed population. Be prepared for it, and write to your Congressmen & woman now. Make a stand, because what the brainwashed don’t realize is, the 2nd amendment won’t be the end, but the beginning of the change of our constitutional rights. Voting for her just because she’s a woman proves they got it wrong letting most woman vote.

  • Patriot October 23, 2016, 3:08 pm

    THIS IS AN ARTICLE BY ED ROLLINS. THE ARTICLE MENTIONS MULTIPLE PROBLEMS DUE TO THE LIBERAL BIASED NEWS MEDIA AND HUGE NEWS MEDIA DONATIONS TO HILLARY, NO DONATIONS BY “ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS”, AND “LIBERAL MEDIA AND POLITICAL ELITES” THAT ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE LAST BEST HOPE FOR OUR COUNTRY. VOTE TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS !!!!

    “Donald Trump needs a miracle.” I said that yesterday because I’m frustrated.

    I’m frustrated by a liberal media that ignores three decades of Clinton scandals from selling off her position as Secretary of State, to her carelessness with national secrets to cover her crimes, to her culpability in the death of four Americans she abandoned in Benghazi.

    I’m frustrated by a media that, instead, donates outrageous sums to her campaign and spends every waking moment targeting Donald Trump for things that aren’t going to make one bit of difference in making America great again.

    I’m frustrated by establishment Republicans who haven’t spent a single dollar on TV.

    I’m frustrated by the lies of a political elite that thinks we are all stupid. But it’s nothing compared to how frustrated all of you are.

    We’re losing the things that made America great and powerful and successful. We’re losing our freedom, our homes, our businesses, our country, and our children’s future. I know you’re as frustrated as I am by the liberal media and political elites that are trying to steal the last best hope for our country.

    I meant what I said, Donald Trump needs a miracle. But we are that miracle. All of us coming together in a moment unprecedented since we led Ronald Reagan to Victory in 1984 – we’re about to deliver an American Miracle on November 8th.

    Now, we need you today more than ever. We need you to win. We need your vote. We need your support to balance out the liberal media and stand up for America.

    We are that miracle. Let’s elect Donald Trump.

    ED ROLLINS
    CO-CHAIR

  • Miles Huggins October 22, 2016, 9:34 pm

    To be honest the only way i can vote in this election with a clear conscience is by being a 1 issue voter and hitlery hate our god given ability to defend ourselves against all enemies be it personal or national enemies that would do harm to me or my country so yea trump gets my vote i just hope hes better at keeping his word than all these other politicians cause i dont trust him or any of them to do what they say. That said i believe hitlery would be worse than obumer on our gun rights

  • John October 22, 2016, 5:16 pm

    Goooooo Clinton…..

  • wasntme October 22, 2016, 10:33 am

    shall not be infringed – What more do you need to know?

    It would have been nice to see him slam dunk clinton on this subject but he has a lot going on right now.

  • Papa7092 October 21, 2016, 9:20 pm

    Well any sane person with half a brain understands that Hillary is talking out both sides of her mouth as usual, I find it hard to believe that there are so many people who believe what she says????? I’mean a son of a navy vet, I’ve had a life long connection to guns, i cut my teeth on a ruger single 6 3 screw late 1959 produced pistol. Wich my dad gave me for xmas 20 some years ago. Just 1 of my many irreplaceable guns, I got my 1st gun a Browning BLR 22lr for 11th bday, a colt 1902 vest pocket 25 cal that was my dads 16th bday present, a S&W lemon squeeze 32 cal from 1898 and i have my grt grt grandpas musket he used while in the civil war, a original remington model 17 20ga bottom load bottom eject shotgun the grt grandpa use to feed his family. And many more old and modern alike guns. The thought that my grt and grt grt grandchildren probably will never have these most important piece’s of our family history alone, not to mention our families complete gun collections and the ability to enjoy the same shooting sports and hunting experience’s that I have grown up with and passed down to my 3 granddaughters, 1 of wich has already gotten her first deer at the age on 9 with my crossbow. And 2 have guns (kept at papa’s house) and have been taught and continue to learn as much about guns and safety as possible!!!! All because of these democrate ( socialist NWO ) people who will NEVER stop at trying to take all of our founding fathers intended free society free and a free american country till the end of time.. I’m so so afraid that our kids and grandchildren will not have the same liberties we have grown up with…. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do ALL you can to educate and get every single friend, neighbor, enemy even to vote for our freedom because this election will show in time to be THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION in the whole history of our country and also for the next 200+ years. That is unless she gets in and turns us into a totally new and unrecognizance country!!! God Bless the AMERICA!!!!!

  • Bob Carroll October 21, 2016, 3:45 pm

    When in heavens name will somebody put an end to the two biggest lies. I’m referring to the “on line” loophole and the “gun show” loophole.
    Guns MUST be shipped to a dealer (FFL) If you buy a gun on line you must pick it up at the FFL you designate and there you will fill out a form 4473 and have a NICS background check. THERE IS NO ON LINE LOOPHOLE!
    Gun Shows. In NY and FL where I go, you can’t transfer any firearm without processing the deal through an FFL.
    I don’t have the resources to check the other 48 states but I’m sure many use the same procedure.
    The anti 2nd amendment crowd get away with this with impunity. A sorry state!

  • Larry October 21, 2016, 2:51 pm

    We can eliminate the vast majority of problems electing anti Constitution candidates by never ever again voting for anyone with a “D” behind their name. Every time Hillary, the Evil, opens her mouth, she is lying. Throw her on the ash heap of history.

  • Scott October 21, 2016, 1:00 pm

    HITLLERY the skank not only lies about her lies, miss nasty sn@”ch can’t keep her lies about which lie she’s lieing about. News flash people history doesn’t repeat itself, it human arrogance that makes us think it repeats itself. Didn’t we go through this eight years ago. The mistake people voting for a canidate based on the color of his skin. Smooth move people, he’s driven this country to the gates of hell put it in park & left it running. As soon as she gets her cloths on and crawls over the seat to take the wheel. I’m sure Hitler will provide valet parking a long with Stalin & Mussolini to tear what little dignity we have left. Wait we don’t have any since curious George started shredding the Constitution with the bill of rights. I could careless if you think I’m a racist, that’s not it I prefer the term Realist. People are like the little kid whistling in the dark think if he ignores what could be out acting like he’s not scared. If you voted for him your getting what you deserve, look in the mirror when his and HITLLERY’S storm troopers knock on your door relocate your ass and make you a prisoner of the state. Your children will be taken away for forced labor and sex slaves. Then tell yourself he lied to us, pat your self on the back then people like you don’t deserve your freedom & our soldier that have served like myself and those who have died for your freedom & even though you don’t deserve it went ahead & left everything on the field of battle. Don’t knock on my door asking for help you had your chance & turned your back on a nation as a whole & I’ll promise you this expect to have us that warned you this was coming turn our backs on you this time.

    • Matt October 21, 2016, 7:13 pm

      “Your children will be taken away for forced labor and sex slaves. ” What the hell is wrong with you?

      • James October 21, 2016, 7:29 pm

        Nothing is wrong with Scott. What’s wrong with you?

  • Leighton Cavendish October 21, 2016, 12:11 pm

    Lies and damn lies…or she is senile…neither are good options…
    the founding fathers probably never imagined career politicians and 50+ years in office
    and as for lifetime SCOTUS…average age at death at that time was 45 or so…
    yes…I did research that figure…45

  • Mark Wynn October 21, 2016, 12:03 pm

    This … from the lying, corrupt felon that told Wall St. bankers you have to have two positions — one for the “stupid” people and one for when you get elected.

  • don delis October 21, 2016, 12:02 pm

    at least when trump builds a hotel or golf coarse he creates jobs. hillary has ben on the gov pay role for 30 years has done nothing but enriched herself and pays her dauther 900 000.00 a year from her foundation. not bad for a public servant

  • Patriot October 21, 2016, 11:11 am

    Hillary has done many things that are due to very poor judgement. Her actions were seriously wrong and were detrimental to national security, such as, while she was Secretary of State, her obvious mishandling of classified State Department emails. Her lack of any action during the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi very clearly showed her lack of leadership and caused the horrific deaths of four people. Hillary now feels that she is qualified to be President and Commander in Chief and has the ability to protect the entire United States. Hillary prefers to have “open borders” so millions of illegal aliens and probably terrorists could enter the U.S. and become Democrat voters. Hillary believes the terrorists in Guantanamo should be released and Guantanamo should be given to Communist Cuba. Hillary’s actions described above absolutely do not qualify her to be President of the United States !!

    Also, and we are looking at the character and judgement of someone who hopes to be president, Hillary and Bill stole many items from the White House at the end of Bill’s presidency and had to be ordered to return the items. It is ludicrous that a person of this caliber should be elected president. Hillary and Bill are totally dishonest. Bill had sexual activities in the Oval Office and was impeached for lies and now Hillary and Bill want to move back to the White House with the power of a president. Surely he would be Hillary’s main advisor even after his presidential sexual activities and impeachment. The United States deserves and needs much better than this !!

    VOTE FOR TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS !!

  • Jack October 21, 2016, 10:47 am

    Illiteracy among the majority of voters in the United States has finally reach a saturation point. And, politicians pander to that weakness. Even with the highest standard of living in the world its people cannot think critically or rationally; they refuse to judge between right and wrong; they simply can NOT and will not see past their noses. The United States has been weakened by eight years of a feckless moron which has emboldened our enemies. The upside to the next four years might be Hillary’s ruthlessness: it ‘might’ work to our advantage against our enemies. . . .after many more Americans die. This sickens me: I just cannot listen to her or numbnuts without becoming nauseous. This is tragic and I fear for every active duty soldier, sailor and aviator in the Department of Defense. Conscription (draft) is going to be a real kick in the ass for boys & girls who voted for her.

    If you get opportunity, search “Henry Louis Mencken”. He was a journalist when journalism had integrity in the 20’s or so. He died in 1956. Interesting man. His observations regarding the election process are spot on even though when written, they pertained more to logistical problems with campaigns than idealism. In part he wrote,

    “The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

    The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

    • Mark Wynn October 21, 2016, 12:11 pm

      H.L. Menchen was an astute observer of American behavior. Not sure that journalism was any more ethical in his day … but he sure identified the politicial animal that is Hillary Rodham Clinton today. She doesn’t even know her “policies” until her handlers advise her what will help her win the election, and hand her a script. (As verified by the latest Wikileaks dump)

  • BJG October 21, 2016, 10:00 am

    The only thing this lying POS respects is POWER!

    • Joe McHugh October 21, 2016, 11:20 am

      BJG, your’re correct about the Hildabeast. She is incredible! She even lies about her lies! On the other hand, I’m almost sure that she will have the most transparent administration since obama’s.
      (sarc. switch off)

    • mtman2 October 22, 2016, 9:51 am

      Yes- this is and ALWAYS was the case with her….
      She was fired from the Watergate prosecution team for being an illegal and lying operative on that case- by a Democrat law firm no less.
      This was at tbe start of her career then knowingly defending guilty child rapist’s to end up at the Rose Law that laundered money from her husbands connection to the massive cocaine smuggling operation in Arkansas that ended up with over 30 murdered individuals.

      search- “Clinton Chronicles”

      This was also when Hillary was an active member of a witches coven(yes Satanists) by her husbands own admission stating- “Yeah- she’s into that stuff.”
      The woman is evil to the core- well beyond average American’s ability to comprehend as generations have been repeatedly taught and told Godliness is a farce and “Humanism” is America’s true “religion” from the ‘Enlightenment”. Rather than Scriptural foundations as easily found in the Declaration along with thousands of writings from OUR Founding peoples. This is why it’s the first two parts of OUR 1st-Amendment. Then as George Washington himself stated-
      “The 2nd-Amendment being the teeth to the 1st.”
      This truly is a spiritual battle for the soul of what was the Godly American Founding as a gift to you- me = us.
      And no DNA didn’t invent itself- nor did spontaneous-generation Create the miracles all around us nor time and matter itself- it is wakeup time-!!!
      Hillary states she WILL change America’s Godly perspective by law if elected.
      “MY PEOPLE PERISH FROM A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE” –
      Evidently by increasingly voluntary choice over the last 100+-yrs ~!

  • gary October 21, 2016, 9:58 am

    can you say ‘F’ ing liar

  • Ed October 21, 2016, 9:31 am

    Too bad she didn’t offer the disclaimer “May God strike me dead if what I say isn’t true” before she opened her mouth…..

  • TigerMtnMan October 21, 2016, 8:52 am

    HRC will say anything to get elected! She’s a liar. During the debate, she stated there are 33,000 deaths annually from guns and she wants to ‘protect the children’. Yet, she’s for full term abortion to ‘protect the health of the mother’. The facts are simple. 2/3rds of those ‘gun deaths’ are suicides. That leaves about 10,000 individuals who die from gun violence. A fetus develops a heartbeat at 18 days and God said He ‘knew ’em before He knitted ’em in their mother’s womb’. 100% of the children taken from the womb are murdered. While I’m all for less government, you’ve got to ask yourself who will protect those helpless children from HRC? Trump says he’s won’t support abortion. God finally gave us a strong candidate for these perilous times who will stand up to the radical left, radical Islam and those who wish to ‘Death to America’.

  • Pat J October 21, 2016, 7:49 am

    And in this corner, representing issues somewhat resembling the US Constitution: a pathologically self-absorbed jack ass.
    Four years of angry female government coming up here, the only male voices heard until 2020 will be effeminate ones.
    She will do whatever Wall Street, the Israelists, and the Military Industrialists tell her to do, and none of those poisoned puppeteers want armed individuals obstructing their paths to quiet dominance. May we acquit ourselves well, those right are not ours’ to give away. Someone down the road is going to need my weapons and the right to own them.

    • Boss October 21, 2016, 9:35 am

      Israelists, Military Industrialists ? Are you kidding me? This is not the 1950s, you haven’t been paying attention.
      Hilarious Clinton and the Progressives have cut the military to bone. They complain Israel s treating Palestinians badly taking their land.
      If you had said Islamist and undocumented immigrants (illegal aliens) I could agree with you.
      How many Israelis’ have attacked us? The military has been degraded to the point that Putin thinks he can do anything he wants (the occupy Whitehouse jihadist supporter not withstanding, billions to Iran).
      Bill & Hill have rich accepting money from the Islamic countries.
      I do believe if Hilarious is elected, the wheels will come really quickly! Be ready!

      “Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
      Thomas Jefferson — Third President of the United States.

      • Pat J October 21, 2016, 12:48 pm

        1)You, Boss, are conflating military budgets with efficacy. The USA military will never be able to overcome an occupied peasant class armed with AK 47s, IEDs, RPGs, and ethnic-religious malice or fervor. Those people, bin laden included, are doing nothing more than what I hope American men would do if the situation was reversed. Something that sounds very nasty doesn’t necessarily make it wrong. The Viet Cong were armed with AKs, a small amount of rice, nastiness, and numbers. They prevailed. I no longer confuse military budgets & operations for defense, with those for empire. The sword that goes out for empire comes back through our shields.
        2) I can’t determine whether you think I am defending the Clintons. I consider them unspeakable, sir.
        3) I consider AIPAC, dual citizen-Israel First Congressmen and Senators, & Israeli PM congressional addresses to be all Israeli attacks on America. Not to mention the Pollard type, Knesset and Mossad meddlings in sovereign affairs. Also not to mention the clinically insane neocon State Department Zionists who are still in place after one HR Clinton failed to clean them out. Not one.
        Before you reply with an Anti-Semite accusation, let me inform you that my wife, children, and grandchildren are Jewish, and I consider Israeli recklessness the biggest threat to their safety. Israel exhibits the kind of adult behavior that one would expect from a seriously abused childhood. The USA can sympathize without so much treasure and blood. I must admit that I have little affection for anyone in the Middle East, but regardless which studio wrestler wins the lotto in November, they will embark on a poisonous mission of killing other peoples’ pre-terrorist kids, and making new enemies to replace them, supposedly for my freedom. I don’t believe it anymore, if that offends you, so be it. You may be right, but I’m more right than you.

  • Johnny Van Zandt October 21, 2016, 7:34 am

    While I understand that our choices are not so great, and we are forced to choose between the lesser of two (or 4) evils. There are those out there that will vote for Clinton regardless of what she has done, who she has lied to, what she has lied about, who’s blood is on her hands, which emails she deleted, which ones were found, or whatever wiki leaks digs up on her.

    This sickens me.

    • Martin B October 23, 2016, 4:40 pm

      As per “Master And Commander,” the choice is actually between the “Lesser of Two Weevils”.

      HRC has always abused whatever power has ever fallen into her hands, and the power of the Presidency will offer her nearly untrammeled power. She will be able to harness congressional majorities in ways foreign to Obama, and has the ruthlessness to push through any measure her black, wizened heart desires.

      The only hope is if her health utterly fails, but the America will be in a Soviet era state of a mummified President issuing vicious orders by proxy. The Dems will never acknowledge her brain death in that event.

      Trump is an over excited teenaged bully, whose age and experience have only reinforced his bloated ego without conferring any wisdom or reflection. He would be a rerun of George W. Do you want that?

      The only sensible course is to emigrate. But what would the Founding Fathers think of that?

  • Ross Riley October 21, 2016, 7:19 am

    If the 2nd can be applied “regionally” then what other regional interpretations can be applied to the constitution in the name of common sense and safety?

  • Tom Horn October 21, 2016, 4:52 am

    You are right, Donald missed the opportunity to trump the wicked Queen on her real 2A agenda, once again. I’m sure one call to the NRA-ILA would have sent a team of experts over to help him prepare for the debate. Instead, he tells us she was, “Angry,” about the Heller decision.

    Did you watch Hillary’s body language/mannerisms during the debate? Her inappropriate laughter is very disturbing. It is meant to disarm the viewer. You do not laugh when someone is accusing you/attacking you. It is meant to divert your attention away from the subject. Watch Hillary laughing inappropriately during the Benghazi Hearings in the Senate:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdqxMUQByU
    Yeah, funny stuff there, Hillary. Real funny when Americans die because of your negligence.

    One last note. Did you see Hillary grabbing/checking her nose during the debate in a Freudian slip? This is called the, “Pinocchio Slip,” where the person unconsciously checks their nose to see if it is growing from all the lies they are telling. OK, I did make up the name of the slip, but I believe it to be true, never the less.

    • Tom Horn October 21, 2016, 5:26 am

      P.S.
      This would make a great last minute attack add for the NRA!

      Show video clip of Hillary telling one of her lies, show clip of her checking her nose, and show it growing, telling more lies, checking her nose, and growing even longer with each lie she tells, End with a video clip of her crazy, diabolical laughter from the Benghazi Hearings.

      That should be enough to make the average American voter want to up-chuck.

  • Uncomprpmising October 21, 2016, 4:04 am

    The joke circulating on the internet certainly appears accurate……
    “Did you know that 1 out of every 3 Trump supporters is as stupid as the other 2?”
    This election is more important than squabbling over a Fascist Moron and a “soft sell” Fascist. Neither Trump Not Pence have the intelligence to administer the operation of this country. The same is true of Hillary and Kaine. More tax breaks for the wealthy? No thanks. Are you still living with the lie of “trickle down economics?” Tax breaks do not create jobs. Wake Up! This election has Fascist idiots on the Right and Very intelligent Fascists on the Left and the choice isn’t really obvious. Voting for Trump isn’t really an option unless you support continuing to allow corporations to hide their profits in Ireland while YOU pay higher taxes. Supporting that option demonstrates abject ignorance. Supporting Hillary offers similar options since Hillary is the “Darling of Wall Street.” Personally it is a dilemma I have yet to solve but I do know that voting for Trump is not an option. He is as much of a criminal as both Clintons. I may not vote for president but will vote for my Congressional candidates. I live in NY and have to live under the incredibly oppressive “SAFE Act.”

    • RetNavet October 21, 2016, 7:48 am

      Thats all just brilliant Uncomp-Holden Caulfied. You know nothing of the “intelligence” of Pence or Trump. In application it doesn’t take any super intelligence “to run this country” following the U.S. Constitution with a Constructional mind-set will suffice. Anything other than a vote for Trump is indeed a vote for Hillabeast. It is you that has fallen for the old plays of the Dimocrap Party to suppress the conservative vote. If/when Hillabeast is elected she will work overtime to make sure that you do not have the outlets you have now to express your opinion. The “Fairness Doctrine” will no doubt be hauled out again to bludgeon to death any opposition to the leftist agenda. As for “trickle-down economics”, it worked just fine for those willing to get off their ass and reap the rewards. Unfortunately it was a very short-lived policy and didn’t survive even half of Daddy-Bush’s administration. Left to play out the country would have benefited far and beyond what good did come of it. Please re-read Hillabeast documented positions on 2A in the above article, and you just may realize that if she is elected you will wish for the days you only had to contend with the “Safe Act” God bless you, I pray that he will provide you with the wisdom to make the right choice for yourself, your family, and the entire country, as well as the world at large. Remember what Ronald Reagan said to Al Haig in reference to rigid conservatives wanting all or nothing and wanting it now: “Why would I risk losing everything if I can get 75% of what I want”. At this point if Trump equals 10% of what I want I’ll take that over the negative 100% a Hillabeast presidency is sure to provide.

      • John Bibb October 21, 2016, 3:15 pm

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        HI RNV–Well said! That’s how this 1964 Army Draftee sees it also. I’ve never seen an election with worse candidates than we have now. However–appointing another “Wise” Latina or Kagan Dude type SCOTUSS Justice will be the final nails into The Constitution, The Rule Of Law, and Equal Justice Under The Law coffins.
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        FBI Director (aka Regime Stooge!) James Comey’s “investigation” into Hillary’s epic violations of our National Security Laws and the refusal of the Deparment Of Social Just Us honcho Loretta Lynch Mob to call for a Grand Jury to review the tons of evidence the FBI collected is truly stunning to me! Looks like Comrade Obama (Praise Be Upon Him!), His dysfunctional Regime, and their anointed successor–Cankles Clintoon!–really are above the laws that apply to us peons.
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        Kingy George III of Merry Olde England would have liked their style! Presidents George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and the other Patriots who showed them the door starting in 1776–not so much.
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        John Bibb
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    • daretosavethe2nd October 21, 2016, 7:51 am

      Wow! Uncompromising, you attack the Trump supporters with the lame joke about how stupid we are, and yet you think that voting 3rd party will stop Hillary from becoming President. Since you are from NY, i can only presume its from the island because beautiful Upstate NY is hurting economically from the democrat garbage. It will take a business guru to turn it back around, not socialism, not a candidate that doesnt know where Aleppo is. The govt blew how much on Solar Cty? $3.5 billion, either they didnt know Elon Musk’s 2 cousins ran the place, and they sold it to him for how much? Or the govt is too corrupt to care!

    • Tom Horn October 21, 2016, 9:20 am

      The Presidential Election is about control of the U.S. Supreme Court, and the interpretation of our U.S. Constitution for many years to come. Suck it up and vote for your 2A Rights. We can survive 4 years of Trump. We will not survive Hillary.

  • Christian October 20, 2016, 4:35 pm

    Hello guys, I was watching the complete debate right now and while doing this, I wrote down a couple of notes which I want to write down here because some statements, especially some of Hillary, were making me angry.

    At first, about the topic with the Supreme Court and the 2nd amendment: Hillary Clinton is also using the number of 33,000 gun deaths that shall try to help her viewpoint on the 2nd amendment and therefore create a Supreme Court that would surely, in my point of view, destabilize the 2nd amendment and the right of the people to keep and bear arms. She of course didn’t mention that most of these gun deaths in this number are plain suicides. I am not trying to talk the number down but the fact is that guns are not the issue, mental illnesses are. Guns are just the tools but not the reason so many people die by suicide or by homicide. No human is ever born like that but society can make him like that. We saw it in Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, Charleston, Orlando and so many other shootings, where mental illnesses, years of bullying or radical beliefs are the biggest risk factors for someone that suddenly wants to go out and kill people at random. But none of these guys, neither Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Cho Seung-Hui, Adam Lanza, Dylann Roof nor Omar Mateen was ever actually born as a monster. And if you don’t believe me, then you can ask your nearest psychologist about that. And I tell you, America should follow all of its constitution just as it has been written down and should not try to interpret it in any way, especially when it comes to the 2nd amendment. As soon as there are gun laws, as soon as there are any kind of gun legislations, you infringe the 2nd amendment, which shall not be infringed, and I do believe if the American fathers would have meant that the 2nd amendment is not without limits, as the Supreme Court stated in 2008, then I am sure they would have written it down like that. Otherwise you could also infringe all other parts of the constitution and that would surely end up in a tyrannical mess.

    Now, coming to the topic of abortion. Hillary Clinton says women have a right to abort their children and although I do follow this for 50%, I want to ask: What about the fathers of these unborn children? Have they no right to take part into this discussion? I would say this: They should make a law that allows abortion but only if either the life of the mother is in danger or if the child maybe has any kind of serious defect which cannot be healed. So, I do believe the government should get its hands into this topic but there should be offices in hospitals or in any other place available, where the man and the woman together can be informed by experts about the possible options, the risks and everything else. But they should not allow the woman alone to decide this all by herself only. The father has the same rights, which Hillary Clinton obviously tries to take away here. She wants women to be payed equally, which I do support if they do the same amount of work with the same quality, but she obviously takes equality away from men in other aspects, which is very dangerous in my eyes.

    Now, staying in the abortion topic, Hillary Clinton stated that she was in certain countries and she said that in China women are forced by the Chinese government to abort their children. I tell it to you straight guys, this was one of the biggest load of crap I have ever heard coming out from her mouth. I have plenty of Chinese friends online, due to the fact that I am a fan of China and of the Chinese culture, as well as learning the language in adult evening classes as good as I can, and many of my Chinese friends are already married and expect or already have a child. No one ever in China is forced by the government to abort their children, that was a complete lie by Hillary Clinton. Yet, I have even learned that the infamous one child policy is not valid anymore in China and it was only valid in certain parts, like big cities, but never the whole nation. I was very surprised when my Chinese friends told me this because I always thought in China you can only have one child but that is not correct anymore, China has changed a lot during the past years. I admit that I was never there before to see this enormous and fascinating country with my own eyes but I am planning to go there for sure to see it all by myself and I have enough Chinese friends always ready, that will be happy to debunk this complete lie of Hillary Clinton.

    Now, coming to another point I have written down, which is about immigration. I know that this is a sensitive topic but, as I just mentioned of learning a language in an adult evening class, I know a young woman from Belarus that is currently applying for being and working there. She told me and the other students, as well as our teacher, what she had to endure at the American embassy, all the papers she had to show them to proof that she is good enough for America and that she has the skills to do something good for this country and she had to answer many questions and also had to get papers from her motherland and from Germany, the country in which she is still right now and from which I am writing this, to proof that she has no criminal past. Now, Hillary wants to make it easy for illegal immigrants, which therefore already made a serious mistake that goes against American law, to become American citizens, while there are so many people in line waiting, just as Trump stated. And there were no criminal background checks or any checks at all that have been made with these people. And I advise Hillary Clinton to come to Germany and other European countries and see the mess you can have if you allow people to flood a country unchecked and undocumented. What Hillary wants to create here with her plan is another mess.

    And by the way, I do believe they should get rid of the right that everyone born on American soil is automatically an American citizen. The girl with the illegal immigrant parents Hillary stated, doesn’t help her for her campaign. Her parents don’t belong to America and so their children do not as well, not under these illegal circumstances that exist in this case.

    Now, my comment about the power of giving the command of starting a nuclear strike: I neither trust Trump or Hillary with the power of the nuclear codes or the red button. But Trump has Mike Pence behind him as vice-president. And Mr. Pence has stated in his debate against Tim Kaine that “A nuclear war cannot be won by anybody.” So, he has a cool head for keeping Trump at bay in a worst-case scenario. But do you believe that Tim Kaine has the same cool head and would stop Hillary, if she decides to press the button? From what I saw in his debate against Mike Pence, he has not because he furiously spread lies all over the place against Trump as well and often didn’t allowed Mr. Pence to finish his sentences. Hillary and Kaine are both dangerous to me, when it comes to the nuclear codes. I neither trust Trump but I definitely trust Mr. Pence in this matter.

    Now, there is one thing which I unfortunately do not agree with Mr. Trump. He stated that many of Americas allies shall finally paying their debts when it comes to NATO. He also mentioned that Germany, my country, should finally pay its debt. Let me be straight because I am a little upset about his words in this matter: Germany is paying a bloody debt because of all the refugees (most of them clearly not refugees under legal circumstances and should not be allowed to bear this description) that are coming because of the sanctions that have weakened Syria and that allowed the Syrian government to become weaker and therefore created the political loophole into which ISIS could have jumped in. Without all the sanctions, which I already stated in my comment in the first debate between Trump and Hillary, and without all the bombs from America as well as from its western allies, we wouldn’t have the situation we have right now. The good thing is that Trump stated that Hillary and Obama created this perfect situation for ISIS in the first place and he has my support on this again. But Germany is paying already a bloody debt. We are paying bloody because of the criminality, the rapings, the murders, the fact that we have no right to carry guns and are completely defenseless and the fact that we are feeling already like being the foreigners in our own country. Of course, a big reason is also our crazy power-mongering chancellor Angela Merkel, the one that wants to kill her own people, but I don’t see a reason why Germany shall pay a debt for NATO, after America has left us with all this mess. I am sorry guys, but this is my personal point of view about this issue.

    Hillary says Trump is belittling women, but I do believe Hillary is belittling men because she only talked about women and only about women rights in this debate, which I am not surprised about because she is a woman herself. I see situations like this in Germany every day. She blindly beliefs whatever these women are saying and wouldn’t even listen to a males’ perspective, when it comes to accusations of groping and things like that. She puts women in front of everything, instead of seeing men and women as equal. I think she just wants to turn the tide. We have the exact same situation in Germany and other European countries, like Sweden, going on. Males are suddenly seen as raping bastards, especially if they are white. All this feminist stuff is making me crazy and suddenly, if Hillary becomes the president, it could be the women that suddenly receive a higher income but for less and easier work and they are surely then asking for a women’s rate when getting a job or even a leading position in a company, so that in the end not the quality of the worker and his/her experience but only the gender matters. We have this insane thing going on in Germany, which will create a perfect storm because it can obviously not walk together with Muslim immigration.

    By the way guys, don’t fall into the lies of Hillary, that she will put taxes on the rich and will walk against the interests of powerful companies or people and make the middle class stronger. At first, rich people have money to leave a country and go to a country with less taxes. And no politician ever was independent from certain interest groups, especially not when it comes to industry, finance and other important economical groups. And believe me, a new tax on the rich won’t be able to finance all the things she says she is planning to do. She will fail in this, trust me, because I heard promises like this in my country from a politician’s mouth way too often. She will not help the middle class, but she will put sooner or later taxes on the middle class. Some years ago, in Germany, there was a party, known as the FDP, and they promised to cut the taxes on the middle class and support the middle class. In the end, they just lowered the sales tax for hotel owners, no matter if small hostels or big worldwide hotel companies, from 19% to 7% and that was all! No one ever voted them again and today they are nothing anymore in the German political theatre, so do not fall for these lies from Hillary.

    So much from me for now.

    • Joe McHugh October 21, 2016, 5:56 pm

      Christian, for “…a couple of notes…” you managed to fill a couple of display screens. I’m not complaining because most of your observations are dead on. In fact you seem to have more of an American ethos than half of the “citizens” in the United States. You would probably do well in any democratic country that you might emigrate to, because you seem to be open minded about political theories. I think that you would do very well in America but the way things are progressing here, I hesitate to recommend such a move.

      The history buffs remind us that most democracies last about two hundred years and then succumb from the effects of more and more dependence on the government for everything. This behavior is what we now call socialism. Our Founding Fathers borrowed many of the thoughts of John Locke and Thomas Hobbes, when they created our American Constitution. However, they all shared a common fear, not of foreign aggression, but of unwise behavior of their prodigy, (us). Thomas Jefferson said it best: “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

      The Achilles Heel in the false political theory of socialism has always been the prevalence of the laggards who love only indolence. Why should one work hard when another gets the same compensation for “looking” busy? Eventually everybody in a socialist society becomes apathetic about work, and the overall value of the resultant work force fails to provide the medium of value, (money), to support that society. Margaret Thatcher described this effect in another way. “The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” In plain words, the hard workers in a socialist society simply give up and join the slackers on the train ride to oblivion.

      I am beginning to think that our Founding Fathers were hoping against hope that the Great Experiment in Freedom might succeed, in spite of the human condition. Well, it has been 227 years since the creation of our American Constitution and it seems that the law of averages is about to overtake us. But the casual observer has to admit that for better or worse, America made its mark on world history.

      Although we are sliding into the liberal Utopia called Perdition, the gather storm clouds on the horizon herald a Phoenix of sorts. The Second Amendment of the American Constitution, provided a means to a rebirth of what the Founding Fathers wanted for us. There are well over 300 million privately owned firearms in the United States and way over 100 billion cartridges for those arms. Worse for the politicians who fear an armed populace, these numbers are accelerating. If the Hildabeast wins in November, there will be a race between her infringing on the private ownership of guns, and the people purchasing enough arms and ammunition to maintain their independence from those who would abuse their inherent rights.

      America is in decline, and after the inevitable collapse of our economy and the following chaos, there will be a great upheaval of most of our 321 million citizens. One needn’t be prescient to see what is coming. Finally, the original Constitution will be resurrected and amended again to address the weaknesses that are all to obvious today. These are the issues that the career politicians refuse to seriously address. They will include single term limits, balanced budget, voter I.D., mandatory border security, etc. etc.

      I have no illusions of surviving the coming mortal storm, but I am very concerned about the future of my children and their children. Why is it that human beings seemed destined to relearn that freedom is never free? Oh, did I mention that I don’t own a gun? I believe our dear Leaders who assure us that firearms are evil devices that only lead to personal tragedy and criminal behavior. I’m almost sure that the monitors at our N.S.A. Center believe these statements. However, “Bob” (no last name), lives nearby and he has a veritable arsenal of weapons and ammunition. Inexplicably, he keeps these things buried in a remote wooded patch of trees. He purchased a number of plastic drums that are waterproof as well as being very robust. I am somewhat hopeful that my friend “Bob” would loan me some of these “evil” items when push comes to shove.

      • Christian October 22, 2016, 4:53 am

        Hello there Joe!

        Yes, you are right, I wrote down a couple of notes and then started to actually not just writing them down but to add my explanations and thoughts into it and here we have another of my screen-busting comments. I never was able to keep myself short, neither in writing or talking. It is a habit of me, which I just cannot shut down, I’m sorry about that. If I would have been a presidential candidate and NBC is just giving me two minutes to speak, I would be in big trouble. Unfortunately, I do believe that everyone on this website could have spoken and explained himself much better than Trump did in both debates. Yesterday evening I even imagined about standing on that stage myself and debating with Hillary. Hillary is a liar but she obviously made a better stand than Trump did and I am already very anxious, if the republicans can still win this. If they would just have allowed Mr. Pence to run for president! I personally was disgusted after the debate was over and in a couple of seconds Trump was surrounded by so many women. I don’t know if they are his wives, daughters, girlfriends or whoever they are but even to me it didn’t make a good expression of him as a person, such an old man with all these “want to be supermodels”. But neither Hillary made a good expression to me, because of all the lies she said once again.

        Yes, Joe, although I am interested into your country, the current political situation is already reason enough for me to not go there as an immigrant. As a tourist for sure but not to live there, especially when I heard from Lester Holt (I hope I’ve written his name right) in the first presidential debate that half of the American people are living from paycheck to paycheck. That is 150 million people living on the very edge of survival, just as they do in Germany too. But neither I would tell anyone to come to Europe right now, no matter if as a tourist or immigrant.

        I was also surprised as you wrote that you don’t own a gun yourself. I do believe the first thing I would do, after I have received American citizenship, is going to a gun shop and buy myself a nice pistol for self-defense and would later start to collect some other guns I am highly interested in, like the AK47, Saiga-12 and stuff like this. So, guns that will be in big trouble soon, if Hillary will win the votes. I was negatively surprised when I came here the first time, believing that you can buy any guns in America, and then had to see that you mostly can only buy semi-automatic guns and that a Supreme Court is interpreting the 2nd amendment and that you have states where certain guns are forbidden, you have gun-free zones and stuff like that. I thought you are the land of the free where you can carry anything openly around, if you want. And now your freedom is under such a large attack by Hillary and many others, that it can only barely survive. I was shocked when learning all these things.

        Most of your points are superbly written Joe, there is nothing I have to add on these and I have learned a lot from you again! But I want to comment also on one thing, that you’ve mentioned: That freedom is always fought for and never like a God-given present that needs no work and no fight for at all. That is why I do believe that your people shall not give up in fighting Hillary, even if she should become president. If the republicans can achieve majority in the senate, she cannot pass all the things through the senate which she wants, only with a democratic majority in the senate she surely can. This was one of the things president Obama was complaining about during his press conference about the shooting in Roseburg, Oregon, that the congress is blocking them very often. That is the only hope I have right now, that you will receive a senate that keeps Hillary at bay and maybe can overturn her decision of placing new judges into the Supreme Court. I doubt that an American president can choose the judges of the Supreme Court all alone but I don’t know enough about your governmental system in this case.

  • Rich October 20, 2016, 3:04 pm

    I wanted him to bring up any one of these….
    Stole from our White House…
    Stole $4 billion from US in her ponzi scheme, Health Care Plan – fined $2+ million.
    Failed as Secretary of State…
    Lied to Congress…
    Lied to the FBI…
    Lied to the Department of Justice…
    Lied to Homeland Security…
    Lied to at least two Presidents…
    Still lying to the media and US…
    OK, he did say, “…she’s a liar…”, but specifics would have been better,

  • DRAINO October 20, 2016, 2:13 pm

    I gotta say, the mere sound of her voice makes me nauseous. Donald did NOT hit it out of the park like I hoped he would….but I really do believe he is still soaking all this stuff in. He is NOT a politician….and that’s why I’m voting for him. That and the supreme court appointments….but I digress. I think everyone knows by now(even her supporters) the extent of her lies. And I don’t think there is any convincing any of those supporters to vote otherwise….as sad as that seems(vote for someone proven to have no integrity?? Madness!!) It’s easier to educate the ignorant than to correct a pathological liar. And, Yes….I know who I’m voting for. It Ain’t the pathological liar.

    • Joe McHugh October 21, 2016, 8:39 am

      DRAINO, NOBODY believes the Hildabeast’s lies! Even her backers understand what she really wants, and she is just smart enough to understand that at least half of the country is against her goals. So she lies and her fans encourage her to lie because they want the same socialism as she does.

      In plain words, nobody is being fooled here, especially the liberals who want the Hildabeast to be the next President. This charade has been going on since the beginning of the 20th century when the Americans who became beguiled by the views of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels started to promote their ideas. They quickly found that most Americans distrusted the socialist views of these men so they called themselves “liberals” hoping that people would think that they meant the true liberal teachings of John Locke and Thomas Hobbes. Locke and Hobbes were giants in promoting the inherent rights of the individual over the abuses of the state.

      This great deception continued when some of the liberals changed their description from the liberals to the “progressives”.
      I’ll say it right now, liberals, progressives, Marxists and communists are all peas in the same socialist pod. They all share the same goals, such as collective efforts for the “common good”. However, the societies that tried to incorporate socialism only brought about collective automatons that suffered the common misery of this false political theory.

      As far as the Hildabeast’s voice goes, I will continue to employ the mute button every time she appears on the TV, just like I have been doing for the Indonesian national, a.k.a. obama. Not to worry, the cure is coming for socialism in America, namely a second American revolution. King George’s “lawful government” found out the hard way that abusing the rights of the people, brings about heartache.

      • Count Stephen von Siebenburg October 21, 2016, 10:36 am

        You’re mentally ill. And you’d better get used to Madame President, you whacko.

        • Joe McHugh October 21, 2016, 11:14 am

          Count Stephen von Siebenburg, thank you for the free diagnosis. And yes, I am preparing for a possible Hildabeast victory. After all, she does have the advantage in the voters who want bigger government.

          Let’s review her voting base:
          1) the mentally defective liberals
          2) the taxsuckers
          3) the Illegal aliens who have drivers licenses
          4) the dead voters, (even the dead Republican voters)
          5) the would-be psychologists, not unlike you Count

          I’m not all that concerned Count, because things have a way of balancing out. Oh, did I say that I don’t own a gun?
          You believe that don’t you, Count? I’m almost sure that the monitors at the N.S.A. Center do.

          • Martin B October 23, 2016, 4:56 pm

            What a coincidence! I too had a tragic boating accident the other day. Nope, nothing to find in my house…

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