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A design rendering of the bullpup conversion kit. (Photo: JTT/HTA)

Correction: High Tower Armory informed us that the projected price for the bullpup kit will only be $199. The kit and a carbine combined are expected to run buyers around $500 in total.

High Tower Armory is working on a bullpup conversion kit for the unlikeliest of pistol-caliber carbines, Hi-Point rifles. The kit shortens the overall length of the gun while giving it a welcome makeover.

Hi-Point carbines are uncomplicated, easy to find and generally inexpensive. They’re popular for shooting at the range and for anyone looking for an affordable carbine for protection. Hi-Point carbines are chambered for 9mm Luger, .40 S&W and .380 and .45 ACP.

These carbines are simple and have a good reputation for reliability and durability. But you don’t have to try hard to find someone to bash them based on looks alone. Not only will this kit add functionality to the base rifle, it gives it a much more sleek and modern appearance.

According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $199.

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“It may not be your cup of tea but there is likely a market for this conversion,” said Matt. It could be a solid improvement to a carbine that performs beyond its price point.”

A pistol-caliber bullpup makes a lot of sense for home protection, in addition to being a fun plinker or brush rifle. The shortened length makes it easier to use in tight spaces, which is one of the main reasons to get a bullpup in the first place. But being chambered for pistol cartridges is another advantage as they make much less noise, indoors especially, compared to more powerful rifle cartridges.

Carbines also give shooters the option of using much hotter ammo than they would normally use in a handgun. This bullpup kit bridges the gap between pistol and intermediate-caliber rifle.

With their longer barrels carbines also offer superior ballistics compared to the same rounds fired out of handguns. And with the High Tower Armory kit’s rail for red dot sights and other optics users should expect to see improved accuracy on their part as well.

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In addition to adding a flat-top rail for optics, the conversion kit has a 6-o’clock rail for foregrips and weapon lights.

From these design renderings, it looks like the High Tower Armory kit uses Hi-Point magazines, which isn’t bad. Hi-Point now manufactures magazines with up to 20-round capacities. That’s a little shy compared to other rifles and carbines but it’s great by pistol standards.

High Tower Armory might even feel the urge to get into making their own improved Hi-Point magazines. The company has a good rep for their line of Ruger 10/22 FN-style bullpup conversion kits and extended magazines.

If this kit works well and has even a half-decent trigger it’s likely to make a lot of Hi-Point shooters very happy. And if it looks as good in real life as it does in these drawings then it will probably make brand new Hi-Point owners wig out of even more.

{ 34 comments… add one }
  • Karl November 29, 2016, 9:03 pm

    I want one.

  • ejharb November 14, 2016, 8:22 am

    If they make them to take glock mags.
    They’ll be making a fortune selling all they can make. I’d buy one in 45acp for my wife

  • Andy@HighTowerArmory October 22, 2016, 1:08 am

    Hey guys great article! Just for everyone’s info- the price on this stock will be $200-300 (hopefully less). The ENTIRE package, rifle and stock will end up costing the shooter about $500. That’s where that price came from. Hope that helps!

    Andy and the team at High Tower Armory, LLC

    • Miles Huggins October 22, 2016, 9:15 pm

      Now that seems a whole lot more reasonalble now itd just take glock mags ud sell 1000s of em

    • Paul October 24, 2016, 3:09 pm

      Any idea on release date?

    • Maurice November 15, 2016, 8:39 pm

      Does anybody have the answer to win the stock may be available? I just got a high point carbine and a longer top rail. But if I’m going to put it in a stock like this there’s no need for me to install the real now

  • john October 21, 2016, 10:45 pm

    how soon B/4 this hi point stock hits the market? I already need 3.

  • Jack mcclure October 21, 2016, 4:36 pm

    Think about the money: Kel-Tec sub2000 (9mm, 40); Beretta Storm carbine (9mm, 40); CZ scorpion evo 9mm, Thureon 9mm;
    Judge tactical (410, 45). All under the price of this kit plus the gun. On their website they sell the 22 ROGER kit for 300 plus whatever that rifle runs? Just Sayin

  • John Bibb October 21, 2016, 2:34 pm

    ***
    Why not go with the modern replicas of the WW2 era .30 cal M1 Carbine instead? Available with the paratrooper style folding wire / pistol grip stock if you really want a compact intermediate power rifle that is good to 200 yards. With the far improved Hornady expanding FTX ammo it is far better than with FMJ ammo. It has twice the muzzle energy of the pistol caliber carbines, and fires fairly cheap FMJ ammo for target practice. Mine has a combo weapon light / bright green laser mounted under the barrel for quick / poor light condition shooting, and a 4X Mildot scope sight on top for accurate shooting. With proper magazines a very deadly lightweight rifle that is a joy to shoot.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

    • Tony W. October 21, 2016, 10:27 pm

      The .30 carbine is great, had a few love them. However, a carbine in the same round as your carry pistol is a fantastic combo. Not many people carry a hand gun in .30 carbine.

    • Ron November 20, 2016, 9:08 pm

      Because the Chiappa M1 Carbine replicas that shoot 9mm are complete crap every review I have read….bummer actually as I wanted one…oh well my 4095 is great.

  • loupgarous October 21, 2016, 2:14 pm
  • Michael October 21, 2016, 1:35 pm

    Ok so apparently some can’t read as it states the cost is INCLUDING the Hi-Point rifle itself. I will buy two, one in 9mm one if .45 especially if it comes with the ability to add any AR trigger we want. I’d love to drop in my FOSTECH Echo Trigger and make this a cheap range / home defense gun that my wife and daughters can handle accurately with automatic firing power. AR’s, +P .45acp pistol and shotguns are simply too much for them to handle (small women).

    • Shawn Driscoll October 21, 2016, 4:52 pm

      If they ever get around to accepting high cap mags I’m in. If they would accept Glock mags I’m in. Make a 10mm I’m in

      • Miles Huggins October 22, 2016, 9:19 pm

        Me too glock or colt mags and a 10mm option this thing would be sick

  • Tommygun851 October 21, 2016, 12:23 pm

    Can’t you people do simple math! Total price is $500 minus $300 carbine = $200! And that’s a good price for a bull pup conversion stock anytime!

    • steve October 21, 2016, 1:58 pm

      wait, the gun (meaning action, barrel, etc.) come with this “conversion kit”? where did you hear that? why would they call it a conversion kit if it comes with the gun itself?
      conversion kite are for people who already have the gun, and want to change the appearance/function of the gun (like ruger 10/22 kits, Remington 700 kits/chassis, etc.) where you just take the internals from your own gun and put them in the new receiver.
      and if this price was for a full gun, why wouldn’t they include the price of the conversion kits only for people who already own a hi-point carbine? why would they be marketing this towards people who already own hi-point carbines?

    • loupgarous October 21, 2016, 2:14 pm

      ,a href=”http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2016/10/18/high-tower-armory-bullpup-conversion-for-the/”> The “Jerking the Trigger” article says “High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500.”

      Now, this article says “According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $500”. Two different things, and I don’t blame people for being confused. To me, a “kit” is something you add TO a firearm, not the assembled firearm and the add-on.

    • Old Curmudgeon October 21, 2016, 2:39 pm

      This is just the price for the conversion kit…then add the price of the carbine and you’re well over $800-900. You have to buy both..it doesn’t come ready to shoot!

      • Miles Huggins October 22, 2016, 9:20 pm

        No the people that make the kit posted in here and say total gun and kit 500 so 300 gun 200 kit and maybe less

  • Adam Jeppson October 21, 2016, 11:53 am

    “Tacti-.cool” will sell. I could sell these in my shop.

  • elgonz12 October 21, 2016, 11:40 am

    To spend $500.00 more on a conversion kit for a high point, I would rather invest that money on a GLOCK, S&W, CANICK-TP9, SIG, CZ-75 or any other good quality gun on the market, if you check the amount that you will pay for buy a new carbine between $300 to $400 new on any web side and used on any pawn shop is going to be minimum $280 and you add $500 more for a conversion kit you already turn it into a $700 dollars gun.

  • Flep Vandergaard October 21, 2016, 11:21 am

    I have never considered a Hi-Point anything before I read this article. For $500 ☆☆☆CARBINE INCLUDED (re-read the article)☆☆☆ I would consider it in .45ACP, threaded barrel, naturally. I think that it could be a good deal of fun!

  • Rip October 21, 2016, 11:06 am

    The only reason I don’t have one is the fact they only take 10 round mags .I’ll second the glock magazine suggestion.They would sell off the chart if they made that happen.

  • Enc_hunter October 21, 2016, 10:01 am

    If it’s priced at 500 they won’t sell very many. If prices at 300 they will sell some, tons of the trigger is good. 200 and they will sell a lot (even if the trigger is iffy).

  • Sammy B October 21, 2016, 9:50 am

    The article actually states that the cost of the conversion would be about $500 – INCLUDING the cost of the Hi-Point carbine (around $300).

  • ToddB October 21, 2016, 9:08 am

    What a great idea. A $500 stock for a $300 rifle. And now the trigger is even worse than before. Im sure they will sell like hotcakes.

    Yes it does seem like a good idea, but as usual the execution is flawed. $500? Come on, few are going to cough up the cash. Hi points sell because they are cheap, with this stock, your in the same price range as a Beretta Storm. A weapon that takes a double stack mag.

    • LKLAWSON October 21, 2016, 10:10 am

      No. You didn’t follow the “Jerking the Trigger” link which states:

      “High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500. ”

      So that would put the price of the kit right around the same price as their current 10/22 conversion kits; $270/

  • Boss October 21, 2016, 8:41 am

    So, take a $300 gun and turn it into a $800 gun. Somewhere there is a purpose being defeated here. I think I would rather buy an $800 gun with some off the shelf accessory options. They may be too proud of this stock kit by far. Why buy a Ford Focus and put a Lincoln body on it.

    “On some glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their harts desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” -H.L. Mencken Journalist

  • William Taylor October 21, 2016, 8:25 am

    Good idea, crazy price. CRAZY price. Sell it for $150 MAX and you would likely have a winner, assuming it works ok.

  • SAPPER October 21, 2016, 7:27 am

    I have had a Hi-Point 9mm carbine wrapped in the ATI stock (very similar to the Beretta Storm in appearance) for about 7 years now. I have shot everything from 115gn+P to sub-sonic 147gn and 165gn, both open and suppressed. I have only had a handful of stove pipes (likely my fault, as some days it will get 500+ rounds suppressed without cleaning) and have put thousands of rounds through it. I am in no way a Hi-point fan, but I have been impressed with the simplicity of this little carbine. You knock off the goofy looking stock and set it up right, and it really will preform. If these kits come out as rendered, ill probably end up with a second one…

  • Eric Equis October 21, 2016, 6:56 am

    If they make it to take Glock mags, it will be a WINNER!

  • George October 21, 2016, 5:45 am

    A beautiful piece. What is the cost and where to buy.?

  • crashbbear October 21, 2016, 4:46 am

    Firstly, a 9mm carbine is quieter than a 223 or 12 gauge, but with your face that close to the muzzle I don’t think it matters. And secondly, I’m concerned about the trigger. It’s already crap and bullpups have notoriously garbage triggers.

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