SCCY’s New .380 Is a Game Changer–SHOT Show 2016

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The SCCY 9mms come in a wild assortment of colors. The .380s should, too.

The SCCY 9mms come in a wild assortment of colors. The .380s should, too.

One of the best part about inexpensive pistols is their inexpensive price. For years, that’s been the selling point of the SCCY 9mms. Ask anyone who owns one, and I bet the first thing that attracted him to the brand was the cost of a gun. But that’s hardly all there is to SCCY.

What’s new? They’re building out the line with a new caliber. The CPX 3 will be a .380. And don’t let the humble looks confuse you—this isn’t just a downsized 9mm. The CPX 3 has the new Roebuck Quad-Lock system.

Quad-Lock. It isn’t really bad leg cramp. And it isn’t something you might find in a dominatrix’s dungeon (at least not that I know of). Instead it is a functional way to center the barrel in the slide, in the same exact position, every-time.

We got a chance to talk to Joe Roebuck, the owner of SCCY, and he shared his philosophy with us. In its most simplistic form, it goes like this: when you aim a pistol, you are really aiming the slide. Revolvers and some fixed barrel autos are obvious exceptions, but most autos work in the same way. The slide is rigid and riding on rails, but the barrel moves around inside of that, and is often looser than it has to be. The forward pressure of the slide itself pushing against the chamber end of the barrel locks things up. Mostly.

Hard to see in this image, but the barrel is resting in a V shaped cut in the slide which centers it.

Hard to see in this image, but the barrel is resting in a V shaped cut in the slide which centers it.

What if you could lock down the back end of the barrel and the muzzle end, too? That’s what the Quad-Lock does. So the barrel has positive pressure at the back, and the return-to-battery mates the barrel and the slide in the slide’s self-centering V and that holds the barrel secure in the front. The whole gun then solidifies allowing very reliable repeat accuracy. Suddenly the inexpensive SCCY looks like it might be a game changer. If this simple design revision truly increases repeat accuracy, I’d expect to see it on a lot of other pistols.

The new design will be integrated into future versions of the 9mms, too. Other news from the Floridians? Two big gems. Increased international distribution in 2016, and the potential for a .45 ACP version. That one isn’t slated for production yet, but the company’s listening to demand and that’s the #1 thing SCCY fans keep asking for.

Read our review of the 9mm SCCY: https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/sccy-9mm/

This prototype CPX-3 has a printed frame.

This prototype CPX-3 has a printed frame.

But it is still recognizable to fans of the 9mm.

But it is still recognizable to fans of the 9mm.

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  • Don June 7, 2017, 9:34 am

    I’m personally happy to see a nearly same size 380! I don’t have the capabilities I did thirty years ago. This gun will change things for me and my wife. I see the acquisition of two CPX 3 models in the near future. Home defense is always an issue and car defense is too. Even though I’m older, the fight has not left me! I’m anxious to shoot it!

  • Robert Roberts February 10, 2017, 11:39 pm

    Well, I’ve heard that the cpx3 will ship in Feb 2017. I keep checking local Cabell but never heard of it yet. Does anybody know where this pistol can be purchased.

  • M.g. December 19, 2016, 7:39 pm

    They should have made a single stack .380. Not much point in a double stack .380, when you have 9mm.

    • Bill nye January 16, 2017, 4:02 pm

      I agree. The reason people buy 380’s is because of how small they are. If u have a pistol that is the same size as a 9mm, why would you opt for for the lesser caliber? I’m a fan of the 380, and the design of this gun looks promising. What they need to do is focus on 380 ammo and come up with something comparable to 9mm, like the extreme penetrator

      • buh February 1, 2017, 9:32 am

        size is not the reason people get 380. I’ve had 45 cal’s that are smaller.
        there are many factors you ignore or haven’t even considered. some shooters don’t like the kick of a 9mm, some shooters are not strong enough to chamber a 9 or 45, some shooters have arthritus and need a lighter shooting weapon that they can rack the slide on. etc etc etc. some shooters are wearing clothing that makes it hard to ccw their .45 all the time, like in summer. and there is plenty of 380 ammo that is made for self defense.
        your reply to the 1st replier only shows neither of you understand or know why people buy 380.
        and whats the problem with a doublestack 380? more bullets is a;ways better, unless it makes the gun too big to conceal carry. .
        everyone is different and everyone has their own reasons and or environment to consider.don’t knock it just because its not right for you, right now, someday it might be.
        I don’t own a 380, my ccw weapon is a Officers 1911 .45 cal.
        .

        • Joe April 25, 2017, 11:14 pm

          I think it’s a valid question he asks. Go to SCCY’s link here for specs on the SCCY-3 vs the 1:
          http://www.sccy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/SCCY_Catalog_2016.pdf
          Both the 9mm and the 380 are the same unloaded weight, the same width, the same capacity. The only benefit is the 380 is 0.36″ shorter and should kick less but you will never notice that in the heat of the battle. Those two might be enough to offset the fact that it has less stopping power.

  • Dan October 23, 2016, 6:24 pm

    Does anyone know if the 3 is available?

    • cgray December 25, 2016, 5:57 pm

      It will NEVER be available.

      • Joe April 25, 2017, 11:15 pm

        Yes it will. SCCY told me about July 2017.

  • john ny September 19, 2016, 1:57 pm

    The fastest doesn’t always win. slow and steady with a sure aim

  • richard August 6, 2016, 10:37 pm

    Interesting handgun line. This CXP 3 version is reminiscent of the old Grendel P10 and P12 series at least in outward appearances.

  • Al May 13, 2016, 8:42 pm

    What should I expect it to cost me?

    • cgray July 5, 2016, 2:04 pm

      Your life, probably.

  • Joe B April 22, 2016, 10:33 am

    I called SCCY about 2 weeks ago, (they answered on the first ring), and inquired about the release date for the cpx3. She said they don’t have a release date, as they are still working on the design.

  • Jerry April 14, 2016, 10:00 am

    Today is 4.14.2016. When is the CPX-3 coming out? I cannot find a date anywhere.

    • cgray April 14, 2016, 11:02 pm

      Never. SCCY has been lying about releasing this gun for the past year and a half. It’s not happening.

      • Joe B September 5, 2016, 9:59 pm

        I agree. Time to move on and look for something else.

      • Matt September 18, 2016, 12:14 pm

        I’d rather them take their time and put out a nice quality gun. Rather than rush out some junky gun. My wife has a cpx-2 and one thing I can say about it it’s never jammed or misfired. So I think the wait will be worth it.

        • cgray September 26, 2016, 3:07 pm

          The “wait” will be eternal. The gun doesn’t exist. It was never going to. SCCY was just conning people to make them think this dumpster fire of a company actually knows what it’s doing.

          • buh February 1, 2017, 10:09 am

            cant you find something better to do with your time, other than being a dick?
            you are an idiot and you prove it with every post. ha ha very funny, now go back to your mothers basement and email the liberal leftist antigun groups and tell them of your great posts on here, I’m sure they will be proud of your idiotic writings

  • andrew j mrasz April 1, 2016, 3:02 pm

    when when when !!!!
    is the damn .380 coming out???
    thank u!

  • Switchblade February 8, 2016, 3:42 am

    I don’t like the idea of these colored guns. they make it look too much like a toy. Who needs an orange gun anyway?

    • Bill February 1, 2017, 12:49 pm

      Don’t like colored guns don’t buy one

  • BR February 3, 2016, 9:26 pm

    I own a cpx2 it shoots well with everything I have ever fed it which is everything from hand-loads to most of the major manufacturers. I can tell you the trigger is hard to get used to if you are the glass rod type but this gun will out shoot the ppk and any s&w in its class for half the money with twice the reliability.
    More reliable, more accurate, more “in the box”, less money. Just because the other guys can not or will not charge less does not mean you are getting more.
    Please tell me the cpx-3 is as thin as the LCP so I can get one for way less than the Ruger mark up of their $150 marvel.
    Does it take +P unlike LCP?

    • Joe April 25, 2017, 11:17 pm

      This SCCY link shows some dimensions:
      http://www.sccy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/SCCY_Catalog_2016.pdf

      weight and width of the 380 are the same as the 9mm. The 380 is 0.36 inches shorter.

    • Qhorse13 May 1, 2017, 8:34 am

      Out shoot “ANY ” Smith and Wesson? Define “out shoot”. What exactly is your definition of “out shoot”? I have shot SCCY’s. And I own several smittys and the closest gun they have to compare it against is the shield. I have owned a shield since they first came out. And have had the .45 shield for about 4 months now. I haven’t ever had any problems with either of the shields I have bought. I can’t compare the same calibers because as of right now the shield isn’t available in .380. But I would Definitely take a Pepsi challenge with either shield against the CPX3. The shield is one of the most reliable firearms on the market right now. So I HIGHLY doubt the SCCY would out shoot the shield. Because from what I remember about the SCCY on how it felt in my hand, the trigger pull, and the second shot target acquisition, that’s why I never bought an SCCY. It just didn’t score well with me. Hence Me buying the shield instead. Not saying it’s a junk gun. Just saying I won’t bet my life with an SCCY.

  • jstert February 3, 2016, 8:52 am

    i have just “discovered” 32 acp in a naa guardian. for folks who are recoil-sensitive but want a centerfire ccw, 32acp is quite ok, and much better than a fist or scream in a self defense predicament. i would love to see more new offerings in 32acp, especially in sizes bigger than a pocket pistol. i know that many folks wont carry any less than a 9mm variant, or 38, but i believe that if sccy were to offer a value priced 32acp it would sell well.

  • James Green January 31, 2016, 10:45 pm

    Like your guns… love your warranty.
    One of the best in the industry.

    But I feel for you trying to break into the mainstream of gun sales in the USA.
    So I have to tell you, the problem is the “name” of your company!

    It just doesn’t work to have to say “SCCY” all the time.
    Names like Glock, or Sig, or S&W, or Winchester, or Remington, or Benelli, or Beretta… are easy to say, easy to remember. SCCY not so much.

    Just trying to help you…

    Captain Jim Green
    Veteran and Retired Airline Pilot

    You really should consider changing the name to something with

    • Peter Baum February 11, 2016, 11:34 pm

      are you kidding…? The sky (SCCY) is a great gun and different than all the run of the mill guns like the ones you mentioned, and is worthy of a unique name.
      I happen to like the name I pronounce it; “Susy” which stands for super-symmetry, I think it is quite fitting.
      I would never let the name of a thing stop me from attaining it if that thing was worth owning. The SCCY is more than worthy of the dollar amount it is sold for… so I bought 3 and gave 2 away as gifts (We can do that here in New Hampshire). Sadly now wishing I had kept them all for myself, I guess i will just have to buy another one…maybe Pumpkin-Head shot Orange or Royal dick-head Purple, oh the choices!

    • Ray October 19, 2016, 3:37 pm

      It is pronounced SKY. Sounds easy to me

  • Mikial January 29, 2016, 5:49 pm

    The “Quad-Lock” sounds interesting, but can it really make that big a difference on a little compact like that? You are hopefully not going to be shooting a packet pistol like this at a perp at long range, and you are also probably not going to be shooting this thing a lot at the range. It just isn’t that kind of a gun.

    • Matt January 30, 2016, 5:03 pm

      I agree. Cool idea but no way it improves accuracy enough to make a difference in a gun fight. Certainly not a game changer as the title states.

  • BOB MANNING January 29, 2016, 3:32 pm

    Well I have p64 ,cz82,9.18 with fixed barrels very dependable accurate ,p64 a tough gun you tube military channel just how tough they are.also the cz82,one single and double stack,just over 200,which you can make 9.18 shells out of 9mm..
    I am thanking o getting a sccy for my wife she can work the slide easier .we have open carry in our state so I carry a baby eagle
    45 for safety

  • Blankovich January 29, 2016, 2:47 pm

    The only time I buy a gun based on price alone is because I am interested in shooting/trying out a known design built in Turkey or the Philippines, etc. I have a couple of cheapies currently in my safe somewhere; the one I remember best right now is a Turkish copy of a compact CZ75. It was a decently made chunk of steel. Shot fine. I put about 300 rounds through it and had some fun. I cleaned it and coated it with CorrosionX, put it in a gun sock and back in the safe and never looked at it again. I wouldn’t carry it and I wouldn’t carry an sccy either. You never know though, I might get a bug up my butt and buy a $300 gun and shoot for the fun of it again. I don’t take seriously weapons made by manufacturers who haven’t been making and designing weapons for a very, very long time. I carry a Sig 226; it’s been a little over 30 years since it was first introduced to compete in the U.S. Army’s replacement for the M1911A1. The only reason the Army didn’t choose the Sig over the Beretta 92 was the price. Only the 92 and 226 were able to finish the trials. Of coarse I have that new fangled SRT on my carry gun, so maybe I’m full of poo poo.

    • bob May 8, 2017, 6:23 pm

      Lots of gun snobs on this website !

  • Scott Robinson January 29, 2016, 2:20 pm

    I have had a CPX=2 for a couple of years and its a great concealed carry gun. I was sort of hoping that they might develop a DA/SA system to get rid of that long trigger pull and reset at least on the second shot

  • Ken January 29, 2016, 11:52 am

    what kind of laser does your Glock have to shoot those kind of groups ? I can shoot those groups with my sccy cpx2 for less than half the money. Why spend about $600 just for a name. on a recent endurance test the sccy out lasted the glock by a few thousand rounds without a failure

  • Pseudomind January 29, 2016, 11:37 am

    Okay I will admit to being old school, but in today’s anti-gun environment I cannot see manufacturing guns in multiple bright colors.

  • Matt January 29, 2016, 10:56 am

    Cool idea. I really like to see manufacturers innovating gun design. But does this really make the gun so much more accurate that it will make a difference in a gun fight? I can shoot a 2-3 inch group at 25 yards with my old Gen 2 Glock 19. How much more accurate do you need to be?

    • Raymond Peoples January 29, 2016, 11:38 am

      sure but the sccy don’t cost 5-6 hundred dollars to shoot those kind of groups. and by the way I’ve got a sccy cpx2 I bought on sale on black Friday for $199.99 that will shoot right along with your Glock

      • Matt January 29, 2016, 4:45 pm

        My comment wasn’t focused on price or this manufacturer vs that one. My point is current handguns are plenty accurate for combat situations including current SCCY guns. Is SCCY being honest using this design feature as a selling point? I doubt it improves accuracy enough to make a difference.

  • buh January 29, 2016, 10:29 am

    don’t bother going to sccy to see this. it is not on their site yet. and nothing about it on the press release page either

  • Terry January 29, 2016, 10:04 am

    I own two CPX-2 pistols. The quality is excellent. These pistols are great for conceal carry. They have never failed me. They may not be expensive but the craftsmanship is clearly evident. I have a great trust in these products and look forward to obtaining a CPX-3 as soon as they are released. Love the color combination option in the CPX line and hope they carry those options over to the new 380 version. I do also hope there will soon be the release of a 45 caliber version as well. Joe Roebuck has a great team working for him and I wish them great success. Don’t be a big namebrand snob give these pistols a chance.

    • Mikial January 29, 2016, 5:38 pm

      @Terry

      This is actually very interesting to me, as I had never even heard of SCCY before. I’m usually a little skeptical of blog predictions that something is going to be a “game changer,” but after reading the article, I can see what they’re getting at. Do you really think that the Quad-Lock will make that big a difference in a small compact like this? As for all the comments about lower priced guns being garbage, I love my Desert Eagles and Glocks, but I like the three ATI’s we own just as much. If a gun is reliable and accurate, I don’t care what the name on it is.

    • RH January 29, 2016, 11:11 pm

      A .45 cal. version of the Sccy? Ouch! That will probably be brutal in the recoil department. Most people are not going to train near enough with something that hurts to shoot. That happened to me with the XD-S 3.3″ in .45. Don’t listen to the macho you-tubers who will profess that the recoil is “manageable”. That just means they don’t want to sound like a wimp, or give the impression they’re not tough enough or strong enough to handle it. The reality is, the less recoil a pistol has the more comfortable and enjoyable it will be to practice with, and therefore the more practice one will do. And, I haven’t even mentioned that with a .45 (compared to a 9mm) your ammo count will be lower, and your follow up shots won’t be as good. So, while a Sccy in .45 sounds good, I just can’t warm up to that idea.

      • Gene January 31, 2016, 2:25 pm

        Hi RH,

        I am not confident that all 9mm will have better follow-up grouping than a 45 (or less capacity). My Glock 30 hold 15 rounds in the magazine and personally I am more accurate with the Glock 30 than with my wife’s Glock 19. I am sure that is not the case with every comparison, but I thought I would throw my 2-cents in. 🙂

        -Gene

      • Dale Sievers February 6, 2016, 12:32 pm

        I take and exception with your comment that the xds 45 not having a managing recoil that you can’t train e nought with it. I own, train,and carry with a xds45. I can fire from 100 to 300 rounds in a 2 hour training session and not be beaten up very much. I have never been on utube and I am not a macho man.

  • Dewey R. Perkins January 29, 2016, 9:50 am

    VERY POOR GUN HANDLING technique especially for an owner of a firearms company. (1) Did not show that the handgun was clear (unloaded) before starting demonstration. (2) Inserted thumb inside trigger guard and THEN pointed handgun towards himself (3) during the demonstration numerous times pointed the muzzle towards himself and flashed the reporter. A basic rule of
    firearms is to never point a muzzle towards anything that you are not willing to destroy (shoot) or always keep the muzzle pointed down range (meaning away from yourself)

    • Kyle January 29, 2016, 10:16 am

      I hear what you are saying, but it is the floor of Shot Show. All of the guns are disabled, with no firing pins and some are nothing more than printed models. He probably could have done better, but it is not really as bad as it looks.

    • James January 30, 2016, 2:18 am

      I noticed this myself , and wondered if I saw what I just saw ??????

  • george from fort worth January 29, 2016, 8:57 am

    not seeing the light, here. there are other small semi-autos with fixed barrels attached to the frame. what would be the plus of having a detached barrel “fixed” in the slide?

    • Kyle January 29, 2016, 10:18 am

      The sights are mounted to the slide, not the frame. This locks the barrel in line with the sights, where a frame mounted barrel does not.

    • G Glass January 29, 2016, 10:22 am

      Here’s some light for you. Which do you use to aim a firearm, the frame or the slide?

  • Keith Peverley January 29, 2016, 8:52 am

    What does he mean “as long as the pressure is downward” ? It sounds like the barrel won’t aim straight if you are holding the gun sideways or up side down.

  • El Cid January 29, 2016, 8:52 am

    Will the new guide rod be more reliable or will it sheer off like in the 9mm rendering it useless?

    • buh January 29, 2016, 10:25 am

      That was a gen 1 problem. ( I heard the same stories ) but I have talked to many SCCY owners and they all love the gun.
      I plan to get one for the times I dont feel like carrying my 1911 as my ccw weapon. ( mostly summer)

  • Steve K January 29, 2016, 8:43 am

    Nice looking in black. Those ridiculous colors, I don’t understand?

    • ExGob May 1, 2017, 11:47 am

      Obviously, sales of these bright colors are aimed toward women and those of the more effeminate persuasion, so I guess if they don’t enjoy decent sales, they will be discontinued. Overall, I think most guys would only go for what we consider a masculine color and I, personally, as an eighty year old male, would only be interested in one in black, stainless or a combination thereof. But, as the old saw goes, “different strokes for different folks”. My current weapon is a black and stainless SCCY, bought three years ago for $200. At the range, I fired fifty rounds through it with no failures. I trust that it will not fail if I ever have to fire it for the reason that I bought it.

  • gunflint January 29, 2016, 8:25 am

    Before I lay my life on the line with a cheap pistol I need to see multiple tests preformed by many independents. This would be for dependability, durability, & longevity. I seen tests on single stack 9MM pistols in July,2015 G&A. Tests were a big surprise.

    • Mikial January 29, 2016, 5:45 pm

      @gunflint

      Why rely on someone else’s tests? I don’t trust a gun until I’ve put a LOT of rounds through it myself under a wide variety of circumstances and know for myself how reliable it is. I will admit, however, that a few bad reviews will influence my decision whether to consider a particular gun or not.

      • TPSnodgrass January 30, 2016, 12:37 pm

        I agree, as “reviews” often are from the MANY unpaid beta testers, of firearms companies, that foist their products off onto the public. I for one, have yet to see a Kimber pistol function correctly straight out of the box(after a thorough cleaning of course), that didn’t have to go back to the factory. Having a number of shooting friends and a brother that have experienced the Kimber Return “experience”, I won’t spend that kind of money on one, no matter HOW good looking they are….and they ARE fantastic looking pistols.

  • Mike January 29, 2016, 7:47 am

    Does he have to point the gun at himself to demonstrate???

    • Richard January 29, 2016, 9:51 am

      Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed as well. Maybe part of the firearms safety class of “what not to do”.

  • Charles Slater January 29, 2016, 7:27 am

    When will the 380 be available?

  • Mr Robert Anton Novak January 29, 2016, 6:52 am

    I’ve got a SCCY CPX2 9mm, I love that gun, its light, easily concealable, accurate, and has a no hassle guarantee. Its also made in the USA, always a plus in my book. The only thing I don’t like about it is the 8-9# trigger pull, but once you get use to it, its easy to keep on target.

  • Chief January 29, 2016, 5:18 am

    I don’t mind spending extra money when it comes to protecting my life of innocent life around me ,A craftsman is only as good as his tools and a “cheap” semi auto is one tool I;ll pass on.

    • gunflint January 29, 2016, 8:17 am

      I whole heartily agree to a point. ” The most expensive tools does not make one a craftsman.”

    • Tom January 29, 2016, 9:01 am

      I have one of the CPX2 9mm pistols. I carry it over any of my other much more expensive carry pistols. When was the last time an inexpensive hammer failed to knock a nail in. Just because something costs less doesn’t mean that it is less of a tool.

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