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A Walther for under $400? The New 9mm Creed—Full Review.

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In late 2015, Walther filed for a trademark on “Creed”. In October of this year, word started to tease out of Walther in Fort Smith, Arkansas, that they were going to be launching the new Creed pistol. My first view of the Creed was a few months ago at the Walther HQ in Fort Smith. I was impressed while looking at the pre-production sample, and was shocked to hear the suggested retail of $399.00! I even asked if they were concerned by the price/value relationship with their other guns. They assured me that they would be fine.

The new Walther Creed bring top-notch quality at a sub-$400 price point.

The new Walther Creed bring top-notch quality at a sub-$400 price point.

SPECS

  • Chambering: 9mm
  • Barrel: 4 inches
  • OA Length: 7.3 inches
  • Weight: 26.6 ounces
  • Grips: Integral polymer
  • Sights: Three dot
  • Action: Double action
  • Finish: Matte black
  • Capacity: 16+1
  • MSRP: $399

I Got Mine

My test sample of the Creed arrived from Walther in a rather plain black plastic case. Inside was the Creed, sealed in a plastic bag with two 16-round magazines. I had already been told that the Creed would only be offered in 9mm at launch; I am quite sure that Walther, along with most other pistol manufacturers, are seeing that the .40 S&W is in rapid decline, with no change in sight. My model was almost identical to the pre-production model I had handled. When you move past function and reliability, the two most important features to the pistol-buying public are grip and trigger pull. People want a smooth, reasonable trigger pull and a grip that feels natural when shooting the gun. The Creed appeared to offer these right out of the box.

The Creed sports high-quality steel three-dot sights.

The Creed sports high-quality steel three-dot sights.

The frame has an integral Picatinny rail, and the slide has forward cocking serrations.

The frame has an integral Picatinny rail, and the slide has forward cocking serrations.

The Creed comes nicely equipped with metal sights, which have two white dots in the rear and one dot on the front sight. I point this out because many guns come with plastic sights these days. The Creed is also equipped with a Mil-Std 1913 Picatinny rail for mounting lights and lasers. There are only four external levers to be found: trigger, magazine release, slide release and takedown lever. The Creed features a pre-cocked double-action trigger system and a bobbed hammer. It has a very smooth and consistent trigger action. The stated trigger pull is 6.52 lbs.; The sample I had measured 4 lbs., 3.6 oz. on my digital trigger pull gauge. The trigger travels about 5/8 of an inch from resting to stop. The magazine release button is a traditional American-style thumb button, configured to accommodate a right-handed shooter, but it is reversible for left-handed operation. I know that there are a few hardcore Walther fans screaming at their screens right now about the advantages of the trigger guard paddle magazine release; sorry, this is a gun focused on the American market. The slide stop is located on the left side of the slide, and is operated with your right-hand thumb. This will be an adjustment for those not accustomed to a slide release this far to the rear, but Sig shooters will feel right at home.

The slide stop is located on the left side of the slide, and is operated with your right-hand thumb.

The slide stop is located on the left side of the slide, and is operated with your right-hand thumb.

The gun frame is shaped in a very ergonomic way. The grip is comfortable to hold and shoot without biting and pinching, but is not slippery due, in part, to the cross-directional grip surface (stippling). The slide has front and rear serration that leads up to a tri-cut top, with the Walther ribbon logo cut into it. The slide, barrel and action parts have a matte Tenifer finish that protects against harsh conditions.

Accuracy Testing

screen-shot-2016-11-17-at-10-04-34-amI took the Creed to the range, hoping to discover whether all the promise could be delivered on. The basic standards must be met by any gun for it to have value. The alternative to valuable (cheap), is not acceptable when your life is at stake, and who wants to buy a gun that can’t protect their life? These key measures are: reliability, accuracy and ease of operation. I selected three different types of ammunition for my testing, seen in the below table.

Walther Creed screen-shot-2016-11-17-at-10-08-51-amIn addition to meeting the key standards above, a gun should also deliver accuracy, at rates of fire both slow and rapid. The controls of a defensive weapon should allow for rapid reloads, and its sights should allow the user to acquire them quickly after the gun is drawn from the holster. These standards must be applied against a realistic target for proper testing.

To evaluate these metrics, I set up a course of fire on an IDPA target with a range from 7-10 yards. The Creed needed to deliver on these counts to be a true value.

On the Range

The author put the Creed through its paces and came away very impressed with the results.

The author put the Creed through its paces and came away very impressed with the results.

Upon arriving at the range, I placed my IDPA target and target stand, and loaded the first round into the chamber, followed by a full magazine. I then fired all 17 rounds at the center of the zero in the center scoring area. It was a nice to see that the gun supported a dead center zero, as opposed to the 6 o’clock zero that some European guns are calibrated for. I repeated this with each of the three different rounds I was testing. The net result was 51 rounds, without lubricating or inspecting the pistol, going down range without a misplaced round, or a single malfunction. This was a welcomed harbinger of things to come. I next began to work on drawing and rapid fire, to see how the gun handled when pushed. I noticed that I was finding myself doing some re-gripping with my support hand during the rapid-fire shooting. Out of this next 51 round volley, fired from 7 yards, four rounds were thrown out of the center 8 inch scoring zone.

It was time to begin working the gun on reloads. This would involve the loading of 10 rounds: one in the chamber, five in the magazine inserted into the gun, and four rounds in the second magazine. I managed to fumble the magazine insertion on the first reload, but eventually got the gun reloaded. I was required to actively look at my thumb on the slide release, as it was a little further back than I have habituated myself to with other polymer service pistols. The second bout of reloading went remarkably smoother, and by the third iteration the process just seemed to flow naturally. The next 30 rounds were reloaded following the same methodology, except that I used the overhand tug method of reloading. This was easily accomplished with the nicely-appointed serrations on the rear of the slide.

Next, I began working on both strong and weak hand shooting. I again found that the gun was easy to shoot and accurate. I will confess that reloads when shooting weak-handed would have been expedited greatly had I taken the time to move the magazine release to the right side of the pistol. The feature was available; I just didn’t take advantage of it.

The hammer of the Creed is a compact bobbed unit

The hammer of the Creed is a compact bobbed unit that is extremely low-profile.

The takedown lever is located forward of the slide stop and above the trigger guard.

The takedown lever is located forward of the slide stop and above the trigger guard. Note the American-style mag release button.

The trigger was a bit longer, and this was noticeable on the first few rapid-fire volleys. However, about half way through my range time I was not even noticing the longer stroke of the trigger. The reset was easily detectable when allowing the trigger to return, and feeling the click became very intuitive.

The Creed feeds from steel 16-round magazines that performed flawlessly for the author.

The Creed feeds from steel 16-round magazines that performed flawlessly for the author.

As the time for accuracy testing approached, I began to appreciate the smooth, consistent pull of the metal trigger. The center lever present on many of today’s polymer pistols was absent, so the tactile sensation was much more like a precisely-tuned revolver trigger than that of a traditional polymer pistol. The accuracy delivered from 10 yards, with all three types of ammunition, was simply outstanding.

I fired about 400 rounds through the gun without a single malfunction of any sort. I ran a grab bag of leftover self-defense rounds that had acuminated from previous tests through the gun. These ranged from standard velocity to +P, and bullet weights up to 147 grain. I just randomly loaded these into the two included magazines. The recoil was not noticeable, nor was functionality or accuracy impacted with this cornucopia of ammunition. Nice.

The Bottom Line

The definition of Creed is this: A set of beliefs or aims that guide someone’s actions. Well, if Walther is bold enough to tell us what their creed is with this gun, then this is one that I can get behind. This gun is reliable, accurate, easy to shoot and a real bargain.

The new Creed in 9mm from Walther Arms offers American shooters a lot of bang for the buck.

The new Creed in 9mm from Walther Arms offers American shooters a lot of bang for the buck.

I predict that you’ll see this gun retailing for $369.00 every day, and very soon. This pistol punches above its weight, and I have no problem recommending it. In fact, I will recommend it: I recommend the Creed. There you go! You should try this gun out and see for yourself what it has to offer. I believe it’s a real game-changer, and I hope that other manufactures will take note of what can be delivered for under $400.

To learn more visit http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/creed/.

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  • Joseph A Vanchieri December 7, 2016, 4:43 am

    I think Walther has come out with just what I was looking for. I will test it before I purchase it but I don’t believe I will change my mind. For the ” more knockdown power” people I have 380,9mm,40S&W,45acp and 10mm. I haven’t absolutely no qualms about carrying a 9mm. With the advancements is defense ammo I trust them all to do the job. I suspect when I get the new Walther it will be my everyday carry. Oh No!! I hope it knocks em down!

  • PJ November 28, 2016, 1:21 am

    I hate, hate, hate a thumb magazine release. These devices are stupidly driven by competition, where an inadvertent mag release will not kill you. That is, irrelevant to the needs of the defense market.

    I got the PPQ M2 (because I couldn’t find an M1). I fixed the mag release problem by switching the button to the other side and getting a holster that would cover it. I release the mag with my index finger, and it doesn’t matter how hard or weird my grip is, I’ve never accidentally bumped that button. It might cost me .5 seconds in the extremely unlikely event of needing a mag swap in an extremely unlikely defense event, which I don’t care about. It’s way less expensive than dropping the mag when you don’t want to!

  • mark November 22, 2016, 1:29 am

    I love the 9mm. My ccw is a browning hi power. I also carry a colt .45 Light commander.
    Both would do in a pinch, but the .45 is undoutabley the cartridge of choice. More knock-down power.

  • David Bateman November 21, 2016, 12:06 pm

    How is this any different from my PPX that cost even less?

    • Brent November 21, 2016, 1:08 pm

      Better looking and better trigger it would seem. Looks like a way lower bore axis.

    • Shane McFarland November 21, 2016, 1:15 pm

      It’s a 16 shot not 10

  • Larry November 21, 2016, 11:52 am

    What a nice gun. Bring it out in a 40 ( or 45!) & I’ll probably buy one, Walther.

  • Michael November 21, 2016, 8:33 am

    One wonders if they will have 10 round mags available for shipment/sale to Neanderthal states like MA and MD.

    • Steve November 21, 2016, 3:20 pm

      he said in the video it comes with 16 or 10 round mags.

  • Jim Morris November 21, 2016, 8:21 am

    I’m with Jimmy, I’ll wait for the .40 S&W. Why? Because of all the things already mentioned, but a very important part for us here in CO is that this gun is a no-go with a 16 rd mag.

    • Donald Silvernail November 21, 2016, 11:30 am

      The Walther web site is showing a 10 shot version as well as the 16 round gun discussed in the article.

      • Keith November 21, 2016, 4:30 pm

        You guys in Colorado were one vote short of repealing that stupid sixteen round and up magazine ban. Most police I hear will not enforce the magazine ban in most parts of Colorado. You are just prohibited from buying the magazines in State. Go out of State to buy whatever purchases you want.

  • Murray Levine November 21, 2016, 6:09 am

    I had a ppk many years ago. 8 am going to order the Creed . great write-up thanks.

  • Jimmie Burleigh November 21, 2016, 4:52 am

    I may be one of the few on here but ill wait for the .40s&w.
    If you go toe to toe with basic nato type round ball or flat nose ammo the 40 will out perform hands down.only sacrafice 1-2 rounds if any depending on make and model of weapon.
    To match the 40 basic performance in the 9mm you will have to buy the high dollar +p match grade hollow point stuff. Then what you pay for 20 you can get a box 50 of the basic stuff for the 40 with most times a little money left over.
    Then with that your still left with the issue of undo stress like the “FBI”(obamas librals) is claiming from high end 40 cal rounds
    When basic 40 ammo in the begining of the cal didnt have till they started using the high end stuff.
    Ok rant over. Lol

    • JOHNNY EASTON November 21, 2016, 7:58 am

      Why shoot 40 when you can shoot 45 that’s more plentiful and at the same cost.

      • Keith November 21, 2016, 4:37 pm

        Because with .40 Smith & Wesson you get more rounds in your magazine when compared to .45 Auto. I like the .45 Auto round, but I like the .40 S&W more.

    • Steve November 21, 2016, 3:27 pm

      why would you compare 9mm+p hollow points to .40 ball? 9mm HPs will perform far better, and not over penetrate like ball ammo (of any caliber) will.
      and why would you carry ball/flat nose ammo? literally no competent instructors, police, etc. carry, or would instruct anyone to carry ball.
      also, pretty much all of the real world data we have show that there is just very little (if any) difference between 9mm, .40, and .45 in terms of terminal ballistics, despite what common sense would imply. this is why pretty much everyone is switching to 9mm (it’s cheaper, you can hold more round, more variety of guns and ammo, more ammo availability, and most importantly, less recoil and faster follow up shots, which is far more important in a fight than caliber.

      • James Hamblin November 21, 2016, 8:42 pm

        Steve, I respectfully think that you are mistaken on the terminal ballistics of the 40 vs the 9mm.

      • George November 21, 2016, 9:59 pm

        I like to alternate Ball to Hollow point , I want penetration if I have to shoot through a car door.

        • Russel A. Helmers December 3, 2016, 1:21 pm

          Me Too! I spent many years in Law Enforcement and preferred the 9mm S&W Model 59. I felt that most hollow points at the time wouldn’t penetrate a car door. So I bought the heaviest ball ammo I could find for that reason and alternated them with good hollow points. This was before you heard of +P+’s. Fortunately I never had to find out.

  • Royce Blalock November 20, 2016, 4:12 am

    this is it, nothing else needs to be said about the 9MM Creed

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