 We were able to shoot the new StG 44 from American Tactical Imports at Media Day. This gun is a big deal for historical collectors and .22 rimfire collectors both, because the real StG 44 guns can't be found for reasonable prices in the US. These are full weight guns with real stamped steel parts that handle just like the originals, and they should sell like hotcakes.  They will be $599 retail, and will come in a wooden box like you see here. Have your local gun dealer get on a list if you want one and this is possible. These guns will go very quickly.  This is the original MP44/StG44 from WWII. It fired a 7.92x39mm., or 8x33 Kurz, round that was a smaller version of the German 8x57, or 8mm Mauser. The Kalashnikov, or AK-47, fires a 7.62x39 cartridge, which is a smaller version of the 7.62x54 Russian. Most people consider the StG44 the original assault rifle from which all others were fashioned, but it arrived too late in WWII to make a difference in the failed Nazi war machine.  This full weight replica should satisfy the tastes of collectors and enthusiasts who can't get a real one. It doesn't feel at all like a .22 to heft it, but it of course has no kick whatsoever.  These guns are made in Germany by GSG for American Tactical Imports, and are one of many rimfire replica guns by that company. This StG44 isn't on the ATI website yet, but you can check out a lot of other rimfire replicas that have all gained great reputations in the market as reliable and impeccable recreations. |
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The StG 44 is one of those guns in history that is in a class by itself. By most accounts, it was the first modern “assault rifle,” and would have made a big difference in WWII had it arrived sooner in the war. but it didn’t, and the StG 44, otherwise known as the MP43 or MP44, has taken its place in history as part of the failed Nazi war effort that was defeated handily by the Allies.
American Tactical Imports (ATI), is bringing in a replica of this famous rifle in .22LR rimfire this year, and we got to take a look at one for Media Day at the Range, SHOT Show 2012. It is made in Germany by GSG, and ATI has already imported several other rimfire guns from this company over the past several years. The StG 44 is a full weight, almost exact replica of the original 8×33 Kurz rifle that is said to be the predecessor to the Kalashnikov, as well as all of the other assault rifles spanning the decades after WWII.
Available this summer, the GSG StG 44 will retail for $599, and it will come in the wooden crate you see here in the pictures. We were able to try the initial prototypes at the range and they seemed to work great. Hopefully ATI will send us a gun or two to test once they are ready to sell them. As a collector’s item, the original StG 44 is out of the reach of most American collectors, in part because the original was select fire and therefore banned from import by the 1986 machinegun law. In semi-auto .22LR rimfire, not only can you own a gun with the original look and feel of the real StG 44, you will be able to shoot it cheaply, and it will itself be a big collector’s item as we go down the road. This was one of the guns everyone was talking about at SHOT this year, and if you can get one ordered, you might want to get in line now because supply will not keep up with demand for a long time after they start coming into the country. Have your local gun dealer get in touch with one of the distributors listed on the ATI website now if you want one
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Alas? No, I think the correct side won, don’t you?
i need one or two may be more
Yes, “alas” was definitely a poor choice of words on the writer. Enough lives were taken by K98 Mausers, thank God they didn’t get the 44 rolling in time. But it would be a fun gun in .22.
Though I’m a big fan of the .22LR round, I’d like to see it produced in a larger caliber. Not the 7.62 NATO round, but a .223 would be nice or perhaps 9MM. Just a thought.
They make these from blank firing guns and they are pot metal, not capable of pressures for real ammo.
Does .22LR count as real ammo?
Are you saying this rifle is unsafe?
I’m ready to call my gun shop but if there is any question about the safety of this rifle, I’ll pass.
Thanks
Well if you point it at someone and pull the trigger they will most likely experience bodily harm, but for the .22LR cartridge the 7 or 8 lbs of steel that make up this rifle should be sufficient to protect the shooter from the enormous power of the .22LR cartridge, all 1 x .2 inches of it lol.
Real ammo?… Really. If you are concerned with the awesome power that is a .22 Long Rifle, you may want to stick with your BB gun.
Check out DIVA Arsenal LLC. They use an H&K 93 to make their MP44.
I know nothing about them though.
Very, very, very, very cool. I live in Kalifornia, where we’ll soon be arguing about why any person would need a “high-capacity 10-round magazine,” so I’m not even going to entertain the idea of buying one. What good is an STG with a 10-round magazine? You couldn’t even hang it on your wall with any real satisfaction. Sometimes–most times–I despise living in this state, but it’s the only state I’ve ever lived in and have no idea where else to go. Every other state sounds like “snow-tornadoes-flooding-thirty below-humidity” from this vantage point. (Sorry everybody, I’m feeling truly pathetic today.)
I have lived in commiefornia my whole life ( I am 62 ) and come May I will be living in a free state, Florida! There is a better place than living in the once golden state ( it is now a leaded state !)
i agree with you michael!i`am originally from new york and have lived freely in florida since 1979!eric,you would love florida!you could shoot just about anything you want!
If you move, we would love to have you in Texas. Are wild fires and the big Earthquake any better? If you do move, move for the right reasons, do it because its the best thing for you and your family. We have great fishing and hunting in Texas, and we aren’t a bunch of stuffy Marxist who smoke marijuana all day and then postulate social theory and enact it as legislation on everyone whether they like it or not. This gun looks exciting and affordable. This gun could be lots of fun. I look forward to seeing one of these in stores.
Thanks, Jim, I feel welcome in Texas! My understanding of Texas is exactly how you describe. It seems like Texas fast-tracks criminals, too, which I can certainly appreciate. I want to point out two things, purely non-consequential: people I know that have an opinion of Texans tell me they are racist and ignorant, by and large–even though they’ve never lived there–but the people I know that actually lived in Texas (and in one case, New Mexico) tell me that is nothing close to the truth. Two of the smartest techies I’ve ever met are from Texas, coincidentally. I have no family there, nor does my wife, so it’s still just a pipe dream at this point. I really appreciate your reply, Jim, thank you.
You might have to chose between weather and freedom. I used to live there, and now I don’t. I’ll take 30 below to the PRK anytime. (People’s Repulik of Kalifornia)
Well, don’t move to Massachusetts! I have an Unrestricted Class A LTC and we are still limited to 10 shot magazines in Rifles & Handguns. At least we have one less Kennedy to deal with.
Come to Arizona. The summer can be rough depending on where you live but we have some of the most awesome firearms available for purchase here. I am actually a recovered Californian myself.
Try out Alabama… Enough said.
I’ll never buy another gun from ATI.. I have a GSG M1911 that broke down in oct..been promised parts several times. Still no parts to fix it and now they won’t even answer emails. Never again
Hello Sir,
We apologize for your inconveniences… If you’d like to send contact info to jeremiah.richards@americantactical.us I’ll be sure to send it along to one of our customer service representatives.
I want to thank you Jeremiah for taking care of the problem.
Administrator:
What in the hell are you talking about,”pot metal”, why would anyone spend money for something like that? Quality, quality, quality sells. Why do we keep forgeting that, in our head long dash of make so much “stuff”.
ATI or GSG guns look great and tend to work ok. BUT being made of soft pot metal they do not stand the test of time. As other guns of the same constuction. ie. Walther P22, Phonex Arms etc.
Read the caption on the First Pic at the top of this Page, Tell us what it says.
That’s funny. As of this weekend I’ve put more than 9,000 rounds thrugh my GSG 1911-22 with only 5 failures to feed. When GSG puts out a ‘plain-Jane’ government model, I’ll definitely add it to my collection.
If they are garbage, I don’t know and time will tell. But if they make quality guns then they’ll fly off the shelves. One thing that is interesting…why a .22 rimfire model and not a semi-auto 7.62×39 model? Most likely a gov’t import related reason, but come on guys a 7.62×39 model to go along with all those AK’s would truely RULE!
what the hell is pot metal and I’m glad those murdering Nazi,scums failed with their super weps(V-1,V-2and ME262)
And the MP44. Standing O for the GI’s who beat ‘em!
An original wartime Stg.44 will cost you 20,000-30,000 dollars. This full weight replica is probaly much more afordable. Plus it shoots a tiny cheap .22 bullet. .22 rifles are soooooo much fun.
please let know when and where i can get rifle sgt 44/22rimfire. i live in Richond, VIRGINIA
I have a CSG 1911/22 gun that I have owned for a couple months. I have shot 300 plus rounds through it. It works flawlessly. I has never miss fired, jamed, etc. The gun was very accurate strait out of the box. No complaints about the quality, functioning, or quality of the CSG product. It is my favorite pistol.
I agree with PB it does say stamped steel. I personally don’t want a pot metal gun either. Actually I think the airsoft MP44 is stamped steel as I recall. Can’t say on the barrell though. Someone needs to do a full detailed analysis on this covering all the suspect questions.
Yea we hope they send us one soon actually. We had five minutes with the gun.
Another amazing reproduction weapon was the MP40 produced by SSROOM.COM. They apparently fell on hard times as they are no longer in business. It was a 9MM semi auto. The attention to dtail was unreal from what I could see. I almost bought one until I was told that living in, ugh, Iowa that they had to extend the barrel beyond the muzzle nut another 8″ or fix the stock closed in order to qualify in Iowa. I couldn’t see spending 3K for an MP40 that was modified other than the semi auto feature which I understand. Back to the MP44, I just want to understand, is there a question as to the weapon being made or partially made of pot metal? I do agree the first caption mentions stamped steel construction. Just need clarification. Thanks to all!
Well when california falls (been here 56 years) and all the guns are gone,i’ll move to Florida,and we can load up and take California back,then we can move back to a free state two
I’m getting one. But when will they reproduce the P-38?
Obviously the “gun” folks that don’t understand “stamped” metal from “pot” metal, must have been reading People Magazine instead of Popular Mechanics during their formative years. Catch up and do some home studying by “Googling” these metallurgical and manufacturing processes and gain a basic understanding of firearm construction. (I am fairly certain that you will enjoy the journey.)
Knowledge is even more powerful than a locomotive !
@LEARN AND SURVIVE… THANK YOU…I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!
I’ve sold lots of GSG stuff with no real issues to speak of. Once in while bad magazine stuff, but even that’s rare. I say it looks cool. I want one.
I think there are a few million stamped steel receiver AK’s running just fine
And I need one of these to go with my GSG-5 which also runs fine
Agreed on that one, and guys, this is really getting old. The whole point was that someone asked why it wasn’t in a full sized caliber instead of .22LR, and the answer was that these were designed as blank firing guns and don’t have the metallurgy to handle centerfire ammo.
HA, yes, back to the main point of this, yes the gun is very interesting, subscribed to GunsAmerica recently and LOVE IT, kudos to bringing us the story! Bad news is your guys fault that my wish list is getting longer, still trying to figure out out to explain to the wife that my trips to the store for baby food include ammo all the time…….. Now lets stop complainin and so forth, lets talk GUNS GUYS!!!!!!!!! GEEEEEEEZZZZZ
I recently bought a GSG 5 SD ,I have not fired it yet,There were 2 available in the store, one has a plastic receiver for $100 less, I paid the higher price for the metal receiver, is it pot metal also? would the plastic have been a stronger gun. I own an Erma Luger 22 cal, I saw a Erma luger with a longer barrel 22 pistol that had cracked in two by the receiver for sale. I believe the gun was Pot Metal. Cheap Car hood ornaments in 1930′s were pot metal.
I have an fid card in Mass. Would I be able to purchase the gsg stg with the 10rd mag? Only asking because mass has terrible gunlaws..
I would doubt this to be mass legal.
I am certain, every time ANYONE mentions the StG44, they alway repeat that homily “The First Assault Rifle”. I am getting so so tired of it. Because they are wrong. The collapsing German 3rd Reich did NOT in fact develop the FIRST assault rifle in the paudry 30,000-40,000 StG44 rifles they were able to eak out before the world crashed down around their ears.
The first Assault Rifle, made in sufficient quantities to actually affect battle outcome and the war in general was the American M-1 Carbine. It fits all the criteria all the writers repeat that makes a modern assault rifle. It uses a cartridge of reduced power using the standard infantry caliber bore (.30)… a 110 grain FMJ slug at 2000 FPs It is lightened and shortened to make it easier to carry and use. It carries a large number of cartridges ( 15 or 30) and it can fire full auto (M-2 carbine and retrofit on the earlier M-1 carbines).
So I give you – The ORIGINAL ASSAULT RIFLE – THE M1/M2 CARBINE
Dee
We agree but revisionist history says the german gun was the one that influenced the Kalashnikov, and later the AR designs. For someone reading the blog here who has never heard of the gun, it is what they need to know, and 40k guns is more than many current gun manufacturers make of their guns in one year. It is not a few prototypes. Alas, the M1 will have to remain in history one of the more demeaned rifles of all time. Everyone I have known who carried on in Korea hated it.
your phrase about the working of the gun…”seems to work fine”…is pretty thin…I has a Walther G22…for about a week …it never functioned very well at all …and that is a WALTHER….
( I returmed it and bought a sig…they work perfectly…)
to expect someone to dish out $600 for ANY gun…that “seems to work fine….does not cut it….
It’s either dependable and accurate or it’s not….$600 is to much for a wall hanger.
I think evryone understands the difference between pot metal & stamped steel. The first caption says stamped steel, the admin who had it for a few minutes thought it was pot metal. We will have to see, but I can’t imagine it being anything but steel. My airsofts are stamped steel. Does anyone know the mag capacity? Some mention of 10 rounds, don’t know if thats a CA rule or not. Thx
Sir
I want to let you know ww2 reenactors will really like this gun
2 questions
1 is it pot metal ??
2 I assume I can blank adapt it put in a plug in the end of barrell
but i wonder how 22 blanks will cycle can you put a few blanks in and see ??
and see how it will feed the blanks too.
They were created from blank firing guns, so mostly they will. We don’t have one to test. They appear to be stamped pot metal.
Need Price list on all AK’s
Dear administrator> No such thing as “stamped” pot metal. Pot metal will always be cast. Time to admit our mistake.
You are correct. If I’m not mistaken, the original stg44 was also stamped steel because it was cheaper to mfg. They worked just fine. The ak47 is also stamped steel.
Since this is a replica, I suspect the clip has a 30 round capacity.
GSG Do not make guns from Pot metal . Pot metal is used for toys or was used for toys and Airsoft guns . GSG guns are made from High grade cast Aluminum just like most modern AR15 rifles are, These are not junk like the Umarex brand. I have had my GSG5 for 4 yrs now and it works flawlessly every time I use it . As for the people saying 22lr is a none Lethal or something that’s not dangerous well the figures show your wrong . More people are killed in the USA by 22LR than any other caliber . Only a Moron would pass judgment on a rifle before using it or reading respectable reviews. I hate gun snobs you are a bunch of bigots .
I just wish they if they could do it in .22, why they couldn’t go just a little further and made it .223 ?? It would make all the difference in the world.
So
1.when will they be ready to buy ???
2 what does it mean when you said they were created from blank firing guns
3 How do they feed I can only contemplate a 22 from a mag might be hard ??
4 will they come with the box ??
Per ATI, first shipment goes on the ocean next week!!!!!
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/20/ati-stg-44-rifle-22-lr/
when will they get here ????
to the gun stores
were they shipped from germany
when and has customs cleared them yet and have they been sent to the stores
still waiting
Thanks
Just bought this awesome gun. Heavy for a 22 but supposed to mimic original. I was also surprised how well it shoots. Could easily hit a 2 gallon propane tank at 140 yds. Everyone who shot it could do same. I am the envy of my friends. Always thought this weapon was amazing but never dreamed I would own one. Little expensive for a toy but it was worth it.
I want one !
bought stg 44 22 cal nicely made has steel barrel and trunion, bolt assembly all steel and servicable, nice stock and handguard full style clips in 2 5 10 and 25 shots repelicates origional rifle perfict to fill the void in your collection,i took to range worked fine comes in wood crate with simulated german marking get one while you can for around 600.00
bought stg 44 22 cal nicely made has steel barrel and trunion, bolt assembly all steel and servicable, nice stock and handguard full style clips in 2 5 10 and 25 shots repelicates origional rifle perfict to fill the void in your collection,i took to range worked fine comes in wood crate with simulated german marking get one while you can for around 600.00
do you have mp40 ? i have stg44 and love it hope you have same in mp40
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