Another Magic Bullet Theory? Baldwin Tells ABC: ‘I didn’t pull the trigger’

In an interview set to air Thursday, actor Alec Baldwin makes a stunning admission to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos regarding the tragedy on the movie set of “Rust.” 

“Well, the trigger wasn’t pulled. I didn’t pull the trigger,” Baldwin tellsStephanopoulos according to a leaked transcript of the interview.

“So you never pulled the trigger?” Stephanopoulos asks.

“No, no, no. I would never point a gun at anyone and pull a trigger at them. Never,” says Baldwin.

Hmm… so, the obvious question is who fatally shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded directorJoel Souza during the filming of the Western this past October?

SEE ALSO: Should Baldwin Face Criminal Charges for Fatal Shooting?

Based on earlier reports, Baldwin allegedly fired a .45-caliber Colt revolver loaded with a “live round,” containing a lead projectile, that hit both victims.

Now, it appears, that the 63-year-old movie star is denying that he was the one responsible — or more specifically, the one who fired the gun.

Stephanopoulos said on “Good Morning America” Wednesday that during their hour and a half interview, Baldwin “went through in detail what happened on the set that day.”

“As you can imagine he’s devastated but he was also very candid, he was very forthcoming. He answered every question,” Stephanopoulos said.

Hard to tell if this is a ploy by ABC News to get ratings for this interview or if there is legitimately more to the story than what was originally reported.

What we do know is that the investigation is ongoing and thus far no criminal charges have been filed against Mr. Baldwin.

Though, at least two crew members have sued Baldwin and other individuals involved with the making of the movie for “severe emotional distress” and actions that were deemed “reckless.”

“Alec Baldwin intentionally, without just cause or excuse, cocked and fired the loaded gun even though the upcoming scene to be filmed did not call for the cocking and firing of a firearm,” one of the lawsuit reads. “Mr. Baldwin chose to play Russian Roulette with a loaded gun without checking it and without having the Armorer do so.”

As always, stay tuned for updates.

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  • Andrew N December 7, 2021, 10:14 pm

    I just wonder how many times Alec rehearsed this before the “interview”, and how many “takes” of there actual telling of the tale they had to shoot before they got one without anyone laughing. Fucking actors. Never their fault.

  • Kivaari December 6, 2021, 11:20 pm

    It isn’t a half-cocked safety, it is the half-cock loading position. It’s where empties are ejected and new round loaded. It will act as a safety if the thumb slips. But there is a safety notch. So there’s two chances for the hammer to be stopped if it slips. Both are over ridden if the trigger is pulled. Baldwin pulled the trigger and the gun worked like it was supposed to work. He was aiming at the camera where the two crew members were located. Why he introduced the gun into a scene where it wasn’t called for in the script is weird. If he had checked the gun he would have seen dummy rounds as they are common on western movie sets. The live round(s) would have looked like dummies. It would not have made a difference to visually inspect them.

  • Vic December 5, 2021, 6:05 pm

    .. I drank but I didn’t swallow..

  • Jons_On December 4, 2021, 1:49 pm

    If I was careless enough to take a gun from someone and not check to see if and with what it was loaded with and then started cocking the gun by pulling the hammer back and then let the hammer fall against the firing pin I would be in jail. What kind of person feels no guilt when a gun they are holding fires a round into another person and kills them? This cold hearted phoney pile of donkey dung belongs in jail.

  • Kent December 4, 2021, 12:22 pm

    It is a mechanical impossibility to fire an 1873 Colt SAA or an authentic 4 click clone without pulling the trigger to bypass the half cock notch on the hammer. Even at nearly full cock, if the hammer slips from under your thumb, the half cock notch will catch it and not allow it to fire without the trigger being held back at the same time. Sam colt designed it to do that as a safety feature of the gun. So this is a slam dunk negligent discharge by an untrained blowhard idiot who is lying his ass off, as long as no one filed down the half cock notch anyway. I hope they took it into evidence immediately so that couldn’t be done after the fact. He violated several rules of safe gun handling, but I guarantee you this clown will be screaming that we need to get these guns out of American’s hands as soon as he can deflect blame from himself. Isn’t it amusing how liberals never accept responsibility? The last movie I watched this jerk in was The Hunt For Red October. I thought he didn’t make a very good naval officer. Now we find out he doesn’t make a very good cowboy either.

  • Jim December 4, 2021, 10:38 am

    Saying that he’s an idiot does not due this situation Justice. His BS fake tears are as pathetic as his blaming the gun excuse. The real unfortunate part of all of this, is that he wasn’t playing with the hammer while pointing it at his own head. The only people who believe his BS, are the same people who believe everything else spewed by the MSM about guns. The only good that can come of this is that we may never have to see his face anywhere again.

  • joe dotson WI8Y December 4, 2021, 10:08 am

    your going to jail!

  • Jerry December 3, 2021, 10:29 pm

    For the understandably confused, Pietta made a proper colt’s clone for some while, before adding a transferbar safety; we do not yet know which version is the particular gun in question, but if the “Hero” gun, for close-up shots, is the “guilty” gun, then it would likely be the version without the transfer bar safety, for the accurate visual realism. I seem to recall even john wayne using non-colt’s in closeups; was that the shootist? Anyhow, once known, it is a detail sharp eyes search for, semi-conciously. Not enough experience with transferbars, ruger or others, i cannot corroborate the “they will fire without touching the trigger” idea, nor will i nay-say it. Hate to rush the man, but am as eager as the rest of you fir the sheriff to release the mechanical details. Alas, they may only come out in the far-distance of the trial, which we must give this clown, whether we like him or not. “Anti-gun elitest playing cowboys shoots friend” is gonna get a lot more attention before the final lie…er…um…uh…”fact” is laid before the jury of his “peers”. And we’ve seen already what some of his peers think of him.

  • Martin Krimm December 3, 2021, 9:50 pm

    Still the $24,000 question- why was the gun pointed at her ? She did not have a part acting in the movie.

    • Kivaari December 6, 2021, 11:25 pm

      The gun was pointed at the camera where she and the director were clustered near looking at a monitor.

  • Jerry December 3, 2021, 9:28 pm

    The 1873 Colt’s SAA and many clones, good to bad, have a fragile and fairly useless midway notch, not a safety, supposedly meant for use while loading, but some are so badly done they are useless; thus the myth of colt’s half-cock notch, and the fellow who says he dident think they had one. The hammer can be pulled back almost far enough to not catch the trigger, and fall with enough force to ignite the primer, a but off-center, and the cylinder being out-of-battery will still send a bullet down the bore. some revolver barrels have a huge “forcing cone” and will allow some misalighment from not being locked in battery, and a worn revolver can be so loose as to allow firing out of battery, not being fully locked into proper place. This can squeeze the bullet out of shape, and shave some of it off as it is forced thru the cone. A gun only used for blanks is more forgiving of sloppy lockup, and can still fire blanks even when real loose. Having finally got a bit of aleck’s fluff piece with steponallovus, we now find aleck pulled the hammer, but dint touch the trigger. He said he’d never pull the trigger on anybody, yet has no problem with pulling the hammer on somebody? As in “yes, officer, i poured the gasoline, and lit a match, but i dint start the fire, it went up by itself”

  • American Patriot December 3, 2021, 5:20 pm

    Maybe he was also on the set of the movie “salt” and learned how to curve a bullet 😂

  • Richard Holmes December 3, 2021, 5:19 pm

    I own a least a dozen colt clones. They get used for SASS shoots (lead live fire bullets), some for cowboy fast draw (wax bullets), some for hours of fast draw practice (snap cap plastic bullets). Over the years I have found one that has a damaged/ worn sear. I can pick it up unloaded, pull the hammer back with my thumb and let it go. No finger touches the trigger. The hammer falls.. I have not tried this with a loaded gun and won’t. So yes, a gun can fire if worn/damaged/improperly handled and you don’t touch the trigger.

  • Todd December 3, 2021, 4:24 pm

    “… didn’t pull the trigger.”

    OK, say I give him that one…. It matters not a whit.

    He failed to check the cylinder.
    He failed to handle the firearm in a safe and responsible manner.

    Hell, even if the gun had NO trigger, he’s still 100% accountable for the death and the injury.

    Let’s Go Brandon!

    Todd.

    • Snug December 5, 2021, 10:13 am

      EXACTLY! These people who want to push the worn sear BS, THEY WERE SHOOTING the gun during a lunch break! If there was an issue it would’ve been noted. Quit trying to show us how smart you are!

  • D.J. December 3, 2021, 3:55 pm

    Nauseating , simply nauseating .

    Does Baldwin actually believe the public will buy that
    load of bilge ?

  • Michael Niese December 3, 2021, 3:48 pm

    It always amazes me how no one will own their mistakes and blames anything/anyone for it.
    i am not a fan, but if any of these clowns would own up to their mistakes, I would have a little more respect for them.

  • Ron Crocker December 3, 2021, 2:55 pm

    I did not read all the comments but I only have one question: Did the revolver have a transfer bar? If it did, to my way of thinking, he pulled the trigger. If that is the case, then all the other questions are moot. He is responsible in my mind.

  • Steve December 3, 2021, 1:52 pm

    The cylinder rotates as the hammer is pulled back. If the hammer slipped from his hand, say at half cocked position the cylinder would not be indexed to the correct position to have the firing pin hit the primer. So, the hammer had to be fully cocked to fire and his finger on the trigger to fire. So, all his MSM, is all BS!

  • Bruce Herden December 3, 2021, 1:50 pm

    If I am not mistaken an authentic Colt Frontier in .45 long does not have a “half cock” safety. Even if it does and he pulled the hammer back slightly and then let it fall it would be enough to detonate the primer.

    People are working with real weapons and don’t know S**t from peanut butter about gun safety.

    And these are the same people writing gun legislation.

    • Frank December 4, 2021, 7:44 am

      No. The cylinder must be indexed properly, which occurs at full clocking of the hammer. “Half-cocked” safeties are found on long guns… primarily lever actions.

      • Frank December 4, 2021, 7:46 am

        … full cocking of the hammer. (New phone, need to disable auto-correct.)

  • Paul December 3, 2021, 1:42 pm

    As an Instructor, he broke every safety rule! He’s a fucking liar and should be sitting behind bars! As reported it’s not the first time he has mishandled firearms on the set. In his phony BS interview with george smellslikeawfullshit, he never answers how it went off, only the he never cocked it and he didn’t pull the trigger. Bull crap! Single action can’t fire without cocking the hammer first! He’s guilty as F! Fake ass hollywierd prick!

  • Stan d. Upnow December 3, 2021, 1:35 pm

    Baldwin sez– “George, we both know that guns are the problem. They have feelings, harbor animosities, and can act on their own. I think the gun I was holding secretly hated Halyna and was just waiting for the chance to nail her. I really had nothing to do with her death. It was that evil gun. We need to confiscate and destroy them ALL, before they turn on us!”

  • Landgrebe Olaf December 3, 2021, 1:02 pm

    I have a single action Ruger with a worn hammer and sear. It will go off once hammer is pulled all the way back and released. However that’s why you have the prop master. I doubt that gun was defective . Never mind stupid Alec, that’s normal, where did the live round come from. There are reports that Alec had practiced with the gun with live ammo before the event. This is where the cover up is.

  • Charles Pedrido December 3, 2021, 12:56 pm

    It is interesting to note that when the event occurred Baldwin made no mention about the gun firing itself with no input on the trigger. It is pretty obvious that the present scenario is being presented with the advice or suggestion of his attorney. His claim now that the trigger was never pulled will turn away many of those who were in sympathy with his situation as it is obviously a lie.

    • Kent December 4, 2021, 1:17 pm

      Assuming this was a properly functioning firearm, This civil suit will be over in a day, probably before lunch. Get out your checkbook Mr Baldwin, this is gonna hurt….

  • W F Kleim December 3, 2021, 12:00 pm

    Baldwin said he didn’t pull the trigger. On my Italian made 1873 until you get to half cock the drop safety covers the firing pin. At half cock you cannot pull the trigger or release the hammer and once in full cock you must pull the trigger to release the hammer. So saying that the revolver went off the way he described it is BS.

  • Tom H. December 3, 2021, 11:29 am

    One of the main rules of firearm safety …treat all firearms as if they are loaded. Apparently, Mr. Baldwin did not follow that. Wonder how versed he is on firearm safety or if he has ever had any type of firearm training?

  • Jerry December 3, 2021, 11:14 am

    Re: the amount of internal damage necessary to allow the hammer to slip the trigger, is almost invariably due to bubba thinkin that he can outdraw Arvo, Bob, Thell, Clint, Sammy, et.al, thus boogering-up the tiny lil “shelf” (sear) the trigger notches into, and once done cannot hold the hammer up, requiring ex$pen$ive gun$mithery to properly fix. This condition WILL be caught by a less-overworked Company Armorer before the piece is returned to the safe, or declared safe for the next scene. Which will come out in the sheriff’s report, should said condition exist.

  • Michael Beeny December 3, 2021, 10:53 am

    Well he still pointed the gun at her! Why??? Single action revolvers have to have the hammer cocked to go off??? Why didn’t ABC interview the victims family.

    • Stan d. Upnow December 3, 2021, 1:45 pm

      Baldwin and fans believe the gun was actually Megatron from The Transformers, who took gun form to stop Hutchins from filming a movie he didn’t like. Megatron acted on his own and Baldwin had nothing to do with it.

      Baldwin also wants to sell you some prime lakefront property………………….. on Mars!

  • Green tip December 3, 2021, 10:47 am

    He’s ONLY an egotistical product of hollyWEIRD and in complete DENIAL obviously (once again) believing people ARE THAT STUPID to ACTUALLY believe him..

    • Armed and Dangerous December 3, 2021, 1:56 pm

      And many Hollywood types are

  • Ohio-Don December 3, 2021, 10:23 am

    NOW I understand. Of course, Alec isn’t guilty of any wrongdoing. No, he’s just a victim. More recently we saw how an SUV plowed through a Christmas parade killing and injuring scores of people while another victim, this one, the guy in the driver’s seat, had the exact same amount of responsibility as Tex Baldwin. Darrel Brooks, the parade murderer, has already lamented that he’s been tagged a “monster.” I’ll bet he’ll use the Baldwin example to say his hands never touched the steering wheel and the brakes didn’t respond to his foot. It’s a real pity that our world is filled with defective products that do so much harm.

    • Green tip December 3, 2021, 10:49 am

      ..what you ACTUALLY mean is..DEFECTIVE “PEOPLE”, yeah..now it makes sense.

  • FirstStateMark December 3, 2021, 9:30 am

    Sorry Alec, that lie “I didn’t pull the trigger” won’t work. I felt sorry for your ass for this tragic event but now that your lying about it, I hope the sheriff takes your sorry ass to jail.

    • Stan d. Upnow December 3, 2021, 1:48 pm

      Yes, but the questions remain as to Who loaded the gun with a live round(s) and Why was there even live ammunition on a movie set?

  • swimmer December 3, 2021, 9:28 am

    “Never trust an actor with a gun.” Abe Lincoln

  • Jerry December 3, 2021, 9:15 am

    Realistically, there are a number of “safety” steps for the 1873 design even if it IS a Pietta. Dont pick it up. Dont load it. Dont cock it. Dont touch the trigger. Aleck had allegedly been shooting that piece earlier in the week with live ammo to familiarise himself with the recoil (eastwood famously did so with the 44 magnum and the Auto Mag), and got in some saddle time as well; a real cowboy vacation , dude ranch style. (the which i found out there on ye aulde interwebnet, but havent found it since) and now there’s noise the local ammo supplier kinda stole the ammo used on-set from Hannah-gal’s famous father. Meanwhile, the SNL plot would have the gun microchipped, and thus remotely aimed and triggerr’t, as per the ‘sabotage’ claim….have thet shurf be reeel careful when he takes them grips off to check that gun’s triggerr’n mechanism!

  • Clint W. December 3, 2021, 9:09 am

    Hey ‘Jimbo’, the Pietta revolver apparently used in this production, s are considered an accurate to the era, quality, and safe reproduction model by reviewers other than me. I own several black powder reproduction revolvers including a Pietta and it has been a great firearm. The first Italian gun I bought was a cap and ball kit and finished it over 50 years ago, and have shot it so much it is on its second set of nipples, almost ready for a third. You insult them by calling them ‘eyetye’, but they are providing the American market with product, from black powder to the finest shotguns around. How many do you own?

    In regards to the commie Baldwin, for the last few elections involving a Republican President, he always said he would leave the country if Bush, then Trump got elected. Well, the POS is still here, if he would have left like he said he would, he would have never not pulled the trigger and killed a woman.

  • Anthony J Romano December 3, 2021, 8:36 am

    In the interview he said he cocked the gun but not fully back and it went off! IMPOSSIBLE unless the gun’s sear was worn. I shoot single actions all the time (SASS Cowboy Action Shooting) It’s impossible for them to go off unless the gun was broken. I assume that’s the next thing he and his lawyer will say!

  • Dave Williams December 3, 2021, 8:28 am

    The amount of internal damage that would have to be present in the revolver used (Pietta, a 4 click 1873, according to news reports) is staggering, and would be obvious to the forensic firearms examiner. I call BS.

  • tim December 3, 2021, 8:04 am

    1) Who did? 2) Black powder pistols have real light triggers, at least my 5 do. People that don’t know firearms instinctively put there finger in the trigger guard espececially while cocking for leverage. 3) It’s a movie set, must be 4 or 5 films of different angles of the shooting. 4) Check your friggin sidearm!

  • Maurice December 3, 2021, 7:00 am

    I watched the interview because i wanted to see what Mr. Baldwin’s explanation of what happened. I detest anti-2A people just like the rest of us, but on the contrary to what I just read above, he didn’t say he wasn’t the one to fire the gun. He said he didn’t pull the trigger. Mr. Baldwin said the scene called for him to be cocking the gun, which he was doing. He said they cut the scene and he let go of the hammer, which fired on a live round. Somebody was negligent for having a live round on a movie set, but let’s not do like the left and report false information.

    • Armed and Dangerous December 3, 2021, 9:32 am

      With a single action revolver you can cock the hammer all day long but if you don’t squeeze the trigger it will not fire. Even if you cock the hammer and let it go, the gun will not fire. He pulled the trigger.

      • Moe December 3, 2021, 10:36 am

        Not with ALL single action revolvers. Only if it has a transfer bar. Not sure about Pietta, but Ruger started installing transfer bars on their single actions in 1973.

      • Stan d. Upnow December 3, 2021, 1:54 pm

        No, he’s right. He didn’t pull the trigger, it was the demon that lives in his head. lol

    • Michael Keim December 3, 2021, 11:54 am

      Treat every gun as if it’s loaded. He should have checked the to see what rounds were in the cylinder. He didn’t. NEVER point a gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy. He pointed the gun at her. Always be sure of your backstop. He wasn’t.
      Those are 3 of the 4 rules of gun safety He broke. That’s if you believe his claim that he didn’t pull the trigger. If he did pull the trigger he broke all 4. He’s responsible for his actions. As far as his claim that she said to point the gun at her, he didn’t have to do it. His whole story sounds rehearsed.

  • Dr Motown December 3, 2021, 6:56 am

    Why not get an actual gun owner/firearms expert to interview old Alec? I’m sure George Suckaclintoncoffalous knows NOTHING about firearms, trigger types, ammo, etc…typical MSM “fluff” without substance

  • Ardvark December 3, 2021, 6:37 am

    I think he and his attorney got together and decided to start creating “reasonable doubt” should this go to court!

    • KimberproSS December 3, 2021, 11:18 am

      I agree. Hammer cocked, light trigger, with all the excitement and action going on the set he didn’t realize he touched the trigger. He and his lawyer want to get that out to his fan base of uninformed and the MSM to keep saying it. if he says it enough, long enough, it becomes fact. Then it focuses more on the amorer and why was live ammunition on the set. A defelction.

  • Jeff E December 3, 2021, 5:15 am

    Alec Baldwin didn’t check the gun before drawing it
    He pointed it at someone he says he didn’t want to destroy.

    Now he’s trying to “gray wash” his actions by implicating the armorer.
    And he didn’t pull the trigger?

    I wish he’d quit acting when he said he would.

  • Jimbo Tucker December 3, 2021, 4:11 am

    It wasn’t a Colt revolver. It was an eyetye clone. And an inferior one at that.

    Whether Baldwin was lowering the hammer and it slippes or if the gun was struck while the hammer was cocked, he didn’t necessarily have to actively pull the trigger

    Stop acting stupid

    • Armed and Dangerous December 3, 2021, 9:40 am

      Appears you’re the one acting stupid Jimbo. All reports I’ve read say it was a Colt single action revolver. And if you know anything about Colt single action revolvers or their clones for that matter (which you obviously don’t) you would know that even if you cock the hammer and let it go, the gun will not fire unless the trigger is depressed. Please get your facts straight.

      • Richard Holmes December 3, 2021, 10:50 am

        I own a least a dozen colt clones. They get used for SASS shoots (lead live fire bullets), some for cowboy fast draw (wax bullets), some for hours of fast draw practice (snap cap plastic bullets). Over the years I have found one that has a damaged/ worn sear. I can pick it up unloaded, pull the hammer back with my thumb and let it go. No finger touches the trigger. The hammer falls.. I have not tried this with a loaded gun and won’t. So yes, a gun can fire if worn/damaged/improperly handled and you don’t touch the trigger.

        • Armed and Dangerous December 3, 2021, 2:13 pm

          I’m not saying the gun wasn’t broken. I’m just saying a properly functioning Peitta 1873 which I understand was the revolver in question DOES have a transfer bar making it not possible for the hammer to contact the firing pin without pulling the trigger.

      • Mark December 3, 2021, 11:31 am

        From what i’ve read it was a Italian reproduction of a Colt SA, so it may not have had a safety bar like modern Single Actions. With out that modern safety bar wouldn’t it still be able to be fired just by pulling the hammer 3/4 of the way and releasing it ?

  • paul I'll call you what I want/1st Amendment December 2, 2021, 7:27 pm

    Well I have to say he should get an emmy/oscar for his performance in the interview. The part about the gun pulling it’s own trigger is priceless! I wonder if the gun also jumped out of the holster and aimed, then cocked the hammer back before it pulled that trigger??????

  • Mark N. December 2, 2021, 1:10 am

    Ah, another one of those “the gun just went off.” If the scene did not call for him to pull the trigger, and they were doing staging/rehearsal, why the hell was the gun loaded with ANYTHING??? Now it is true that a single action Colt has a pretty light trigger, but ya still have to have your finger on the trigger and the hammer cocked for it to fire. Which means he may not remember pulling the trigger, but he most certainly did.

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