UPDATE: Genderqueers Now Have ‘Non-Binary’ Option on ATF Form 4473s
The National Shooting Sports Foundation, the firearms industry trade association, asked the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives about how gun shops should process paperwork for genderqueer gun purchasers. Below is the Q&A:
Question: If a transferee (consumer) presents a current, valid “non-binary” driver’s license as a form of government issued identification to establish their identity and proof of residency and then declines to select either “male” or “female” when answering Question 6, how is an FFL to proceed?
ATF’s Response: FFLs may accept non-binary identification documents The Gun Control Act (GCA) at 18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1)(C) requires licensees to verify the identity of each transferee by examining a valid identification document of the transferee containing a photograph of the transferee. An identification document is defined by 18 U.S.C. § 1028(d) in relevant part as:
. . .a document made or issued by or under the authority of the United States Government . . . when completed with information concerning a particular individual, is of a type intended or commonly accepted for the purpose of identification of individuals.
Question: What if in a state that does not issue non-binary driver’s licenses the transferee declines to select either “male” or “female,” how is the FFL to proceed? Or, if the transferee presents a current, valid driver’s license that indicates one sex but selects a different sex in answering Question 6? Or, if the photograph on the government issued identification, e.g. driver’s license, appears to depict one gender sex but the transferee selects a different sex in answering Question 6? What is the correct course of action in these scenarios for the FFL?
ATF’s Response: The regulations at 27 CFR 478.11 further defines Identification Document in relevant part as:
A document containing the name, residence address, date of birth, and photograph of the holder and which was made or issued by or under the authority of the United States Government, a State, political subdivision of a State. . .is of a type intended or commonly accepted for the purpose of identification of individuals.
Neither statute nor regulation require the identification document contain the person’s sex. Therefore, identification documents issued with binary, non-binary, or no sex designation may be used as an identification document. For example, a military identification card is a valid identification document and does not contain a sex or gender; see ATF Ruling 2001-5. Accordingly, as long as licensees verify the identity of the transferee by examining a valid transferee identification document then they will be in compliance with the GCA at 922(t)(1)(C).
Question: Is an otherwise properly completed Form 4473 valid if the consumer declines to answer Question 6?
ATF’s Response: Completing the ATF Form 4473 when non-binary identification documents presented The Regulations at 27 CFR 478.124 state in relevant part:
(c)(1) . . . shall obtain a Form 4473 from the transferee showing the transferee’s name, sex, residence address (including county or similar political subdivision), date and place of birth; height, weight and race of the transferee. (c)(3)(i) Shall verify the identity of the transferee by examining the identification document (as defined in §478.11) presented, and shall note on the Form 4473 the type of identification used;
The regulations pertaining to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) at 28 CFR 25.7 require the sex of the transferee in order to conduct a firearms background check. This information is captured on the ATF Form 4473, question #6, which requires the transferee to indicate his/her sex (not gender) by checking or filling in the applicable box adjacent to “Male” or “Female”. Transferees must select either “Male” or “Female”, but cannot choose both or write in “X” regardless of what is recorded on the transferee’s identification document. If the transferee refuses to complete question #6 then the FFL may not transfer the firearm.
FFLs may assist transferees by pointing them to the instructions on the ATF Form 4473 or other ATF provided guidance, but may not advise transferees what to record when completing the form. Each transferee must freely answer each question based on the headings, notices, instructions and definitions contained on the form.
Lastly, section 31 of the Form 4473 is available for the licensee to document information they feel is relevant to a transaction. A licensee may use this section to note if the sex or gender listed on the valid transferee identification document is not consistent with the information provided in section 6 of the Form 4473 or their own perception.
End of Q&A. The NSSF said that it “requested that ATF issue formal guidance to the industry in the form of an open letter.”
Confused about what non-binary is? Check out the video below for more information:
Dude, the headline rocks!!! I think that is THE GREATEST HEADLINE for this article since smear the queer!!!— Since nobody wanted the ball, be called “Queer” or get smeared- there was NEVER any gender confusion. Keep calling it like you see it with articles and headlines- Nice job! it’s not a put down- it’s simple-just don’t be “Queer”.
Refering to people as “genderqueers” isnt going to win anybody over.
Sex is biological. Gender is grammatical. Or, I guess today it is mental/emotional. One year the ATF changed the 4473 form two or three times to deal with persons who were not U.S. citizens. Recently they added wording to warn buyers that just because a state may have legalized marijuana, it is still a federal crime. I can’t see the federal government fretting over the cost of adding (Other)____ to the 4473 form.
I could foresee the question of “Race” to be the basis of possible discrimination. It is quite common for a person to be of more than one so-called “race”. I haven’t filled out a 4473 in a long time. Is the (Other) ___ or multiple option available for that category. Suppose some on fills in “Klingon” or “Ferengi”?
So we want to close loopholes, fix broken background checks etc………….. but let’s remove a question that oh I don’t know………. kinda seems vital to allowing law enforcement to do their job should this data ever be required in an investigation because god forbid we are offending someone’s feelings.
Gimme a break.
They really want their cake and eat it too I suppose?
How bout a compromise? Modify the form.
Biological Gender at Birth, please check one
Gender status at the time of applicants application
___ Other (please explain)
Seems like a simple enough compromise to me to add to the background check reform but I bet it will never happen.
“other ” ?
You spelled ‘Freak’ wrong
I’ve noticed one thing about “ non binary” people in conversations. They sure got a mouth on them.
Maybe their cause would get more mileage if they wouldn’t try so hard to go out of their way to prove how different they are- while only wanting to be accepted.
They keep telling us that “sex” is biological, but “gender” is a social construct. The question is clearly asking for the sex of the applicant, and biology cannot be denied. In their crusade of specialness,they’ve created their own “Catch 22”.
So, you big macho assholes afraid of an armed transgender person… but not of incels with toxic masculinity issues aka straight white mass shooters?… mmmmmkay
Don’t get me wrong, I would probably get lumped in with the “toxic masculinity” crowd. The problem lies with the fact I like frills, curtains on my windows, a Henley shirt with varying degrees of pink from light to hot at the bottom. I was born a man, my DNA says I am a man. My interests are with women (preferably asian). I believe a mans duty is to make women happy, that includes the ability to give them pleasure. I believe that to be truly happy you have to embrace what you are at birth. Anything else is just lies you tell yourself to be accepted by the left wing liberal socialists.
Amen brother preach on
You can only speak on what is good for you not others.
I don’t get it that most of these up tight, anal retentive macho males are so insecure about others searching for their sexual identities. If you are happy with what you got at birth, that’s fine, let others deal with whatever they need to deal with, the last time I checked, it’s still a ‘free’ country, or maybe it’s only for the white straight homophobic white males?
BTW: I am just a straight, ordinary guy who loves women but I can’t stand bigots and all these self righteous moral individuals out there who want to shove their own ideals down other ppl’s throats.
A little research on your part would make you look extremely ignorant. The Pulse nightclub, non white mass shooter. San Bernardino, non white mass shooters. Fort Hood, non white mass shooter. Virginia Tech, again, non white shooter. The D. C. snipers, non white mass shooters and the list goes on.
You obviously have no idea how the 2A community operates. We WANT every law abiding American, black, white, brown, yellow, gay, straight or fluid, to be armed, as it is their Constitutional right. Go chase your boogeyman on the anti gun side, after all, they created gun control to keep free black men from owning firearms. Oh, and the anti gun supporters… they usually align with the party that founded the Ku Klux Klan, Jim Crowe, Segregation, Seperate but equal (it was far from equal), protested civil rights, and enjoyed firehoses and German Shepard. As politely as I can say this, GFYS.
Not sure about the accuracy of the “macho assholes” comment but I am sure that restricting gun transfers to people with obvious mental problems is sensible.
If you don’t support “shall not be infringed”, GTFO.
The government doesn’t need to know what genitalia anyone has. I’ll be non-binary on my license upon next renewal, because fuck paying them extra for a new license.
I would think if your SS# says you are male and you check female a “red flag” will pop up on the background check.
Could be wrong but, just a thought.
Also if you commited a felony as a male 10-20 years ago. Now you have had reasignment surgery and check female…….
Who knows what that would do.
Anyway it is for BACKGROUND CHECKS. It’s not meant to be discriminatory or insulting.
Good! I can’t see any of them wanting to have anything to do with a gun unless it’s for killing Trump supporters.
Clearly you are a moron.
Thank God that these people will never reproduce. Since they don’t know what sex carries they baby’s . Who is going to reproduce. They will finally die off or come to their senses and rejoin the human race as it was meant to be by God. Male and Female
wow. what an ignorant, hateful comment.
also, where do you think “these people” come from in the first place?
Gerry, your bigotry and fucktardery are noted.
Great truthful comment, Gerry. There’s nothing Natural about it- When 2 dudes or 2 chicks can completely reproduce on their own and carry on life — then I’ll front the coin and host the parade. Until that day- it’s just a sexual desire that should’ve stayed in the closet like S & M, beastiality and necrophilia.
Why does the 4473 require one to check race? Why, if I check “White” I also have to check “Non Hispanic”? This IS racial profiling. This question should be dropped from the 4473.
the amount of lawyering all these supposed 2A advocates have about restricting the right to bear arms is pretty fucking stupid, bitch about gun control and the need for less of it until the people you don’t like is the same horseshit attitude the got us the mulford act
Why are you ripping 2A advocates when it is the federal ATF issuing the rules? By law the form must be completed, so an advisory from the ATF was sought in order for FFL holders to know how to proceed. Again what is your beef with 2A advocates or do you just not understand the system?
I imagine it would be very costly and time consuming to update the entire system in order that trannies can check their imagined gender on a form.
Really? It would take ONE line on the form.
This isnt about transgender people. Transgender people are one or the other. This is about non binary people.
Why does ATF want to know whether you have a dick or vagina?
To properly identify a person and verify their background. If they were arrested and the police identified them as male, and the background check program has them identified as female or binary, the background check might not find that arrest. No one with a violent arrest in their history, whether misdemeanor or felony, is allowed to purchase a firearm. It doesn’t matter if it was 30 years ago.
“No one with a violent arrest in their history, whether misdemeanor or felony, is allowed to purchase a firearm. It doesn’t matter if it was 30 years ago.” This is legally incorrect. Only misdemeanor domestic violence convictions prohibit sale. Other “violent” offenses classified as misdemeanors do not prohibit sale (e.g. simple battery) under federal law. State laws may vary. Additionally, arrest alone does not suffice (which should be obvious as a matter of basic due process, since we’re talking about the impairment of a fundamental constitutional right).
wrong. If you are under indictment for a felony or any other crime that would result in 1 year of imprisonment or are subject to a court order restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner you will not be able to purchase a firearm.
None of the above says convicted.
We don’t care what you are or want to be, we want you armed if you are not a criminal. Get a firearm and join the 2A community. It is the government that profiles, not us.
2nd amendment rights should not be denied based on identity. Nonbinary is NOT a mental illness.
The form should be updated or the question should be removed.
Its Gender Dysphoria which… yes, is a mental illness.
Should it disqualify you from owning a firearm? No, but Just because you make up new words for it, doesn’t make it not a mental illness.
Jerrod Lamber, you are a mental illness.
If you can’t look down in the shower and know what sex you are, your mentally deficient. Suicide and severe depression are common traits of this group. These delusional people are ill and instead of being helped their delusion is being reinforced by evil persons to push an agenda. I had someone close to me become schizophrenic and she believed she was Pink the singer. Under the current political correctness enforcement of delusional thought, she is entitled to royalties. But my opinion aside the Founders made it clear that the intention was that every man that was able be armed.
Who are you to say anyone is delusional after writing all that.
Make a valid argument or take your school yard antics elsewhere.
Please provide evidence that Nonbinary is Not a mental illness.
I still wondering what the fuk does FFL means
Federal firearms license
Reply to River, a FFL is a federal firearms license.
The form says “sex”, not “gender”. Easy call for anyone.
Excuse me while I root for the emp.
Even if I’m not 1 of the 10% who survive the 1st year. BRING IT!
“To hell in a handbasket”
My clairvoyant father 30 yrs ago.
For a bunch of ATF haters, y’all are a boot-licking ableist bunch, still bamboozled by simple geists like gender. Have fun trying to find your way out of that paper bag kiddies. We’ll just check whatever box we need to and continue to get our guns. Just another minor inconvenience instead of the “gotcha!” moment y’all are salivating for over.
– Just another non-binary firearms instructor / ANTIFUH supersoldier
Mental illness should preclude you from gun ownership. Needs mental health treatment not a firearm.
It you can’t figure out what you are, then it’s probably best if you don’t possess a firearm. But not to worry, California is outlawing guns via their roster so there won’t be any to buy.
Add another option to question 6. Male ( ) Female ( ) Fuckin’ Nuts ( ). and ya gotta pick one!
What the heck is a non binary person.. You Are what you are at birth with the God issued equipment.
I said the same thing. I am not even going to \”look it up\” because it is another feel good useless emotional reaction.
also, what you think doesn’t matter
Which god? The non-binary one of course. We are all made in the god’s image, and ‘we’ includes everyone. So god must be non-binary, right?
So, Shiva, right?
about 60 seconds of that video els you all you need to know about WHY this country is so F—ed up right now, even if it seems these idiot’s are from europe.
wow, guess i’m in trouble now because i guessed they were from great britain by the way they talk. just think how screws up it’ll be in another 20 years or even less.
Self defense is a fundamental human right. This is a group of people who are at a disproportionately high risk of being a victim of violence. If anyone is willing to be a responsible gun owner, they should be welcomed into the community as the best way to secure the 2A.
I disagree.If a gender confused person is a criminal do you want them to have a gun? If not then they need to answer the same questions that you and I do.The background check that has been in place for many years requires that you say if you have indoor or outdoor plumbing. It really is that basic. If they want another sex to be added, then change laws. Until then, they can follow the same rules as everybody else.
Wow, I didn’t realize so many people were ok with infringement of Constituational Rights just because they don’t like GenderQueers. Guess a lot of the commenters here can’t handle freedom for all, and they certainly don’t fully support the 2nd Amendment. They should move to a country without so much freedom.
What rights are being infringed?
On the paper it asks what form of plumbing you have, EVERY HAS ONE OR THE OTHER.
If people like you would stop this silly \”I am special train\” then this nonsense would stop.
The liberals make us have background checks to buy a gun, right or wrong?
With that in mind why do the gender confused people feel the need to say it doesn\’t apply to them?
“EVERY HAS ONE OR THE OTHER.” This is simply factually incorrect.
Wouldn’t these people be denied regardless because they are exhibiting untreated mental health issues?
Mental illness should be an exclusionary criterion for firearms transfer…..
Will you still think that when your bigotry is considered a mental illness?
Yes yes yes, let’s hope, pray, that the rule doesn’t change. These people don’t appear to even know how to hold a gun, I can see them shooting them selfs or a niocent bystander. I’m agreeing with 95% of other comments
This is great news. If you can’t figure out what your sex is then you should have the responsibility or ability to have a firearm. I wholeheartedly agree with ATF. These people are less than 1% of the total U. S. population yet they cause so much discord and want everything to change for them. That is just wrong.
Gender identity or the lack thereof is a Mental condition and should not be allowed to purchase a firearm! It’s called Gender dysphoria (GD), or gender identity disorder. We do not need those already classified as mentally deficient buying and carrying around firearms!
Well said. All they need to do is get mad about their gender identity and draw their weapon and fire a round in anger.
40% suicide rate. Just sayin’
Like self-defense, suicide is a human Right.
I guess your bigotry is too, but hey, you do you.
IF THEY DO NOT ANSWER QUESTION 6 ON FORM 4473 YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE A LIBERAL SNOWFLAKE DEMOCRAT AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN A FIREARM IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SHOULD ALSO HAVE TO PRODUCE A REPUBLICAN VOTER ID CARD IN ORDER TO ENTER A GUN SHOP
The more Americans we have that enjoy firearms and believe in the 2A the better for all of us in the shooting community. Power in numbers our U.S. Constitution is for all Americans regardless of political affiliation. And as long as you stand by it and defend it if necessary I don’t really care what party you chose.
#1. Who cares what they identify as, #2. I wasn’t allowed to buy a gun because of my address. Which is almost as stupid as this.
#1 Everyone cares. You cannot own a firearm if you’re mentally disabled. Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. #2 Needs more details, this is about as stupidly vague as they come.
I don’t know why I have such a hard time understanding the question and just as hard a time understanding the answer. I read a couple of the questions and answers over and over and I tried to understand this crap and still couldn’t. I guess I am good as long as I fill in the circle for Trump -Pence in 2020.
Well said sir , MAGA !!!
Innie or outie?
It’s only complicated if you’re the kind of jackass that wants to make it complicated.
Grow up. Get over yourself. Shut up and check the correct box.
My FBI fingerprint card for my Form 1 application had 7 gender options. Ridiculousness.
It’s not complicated, it’s IRRELEVANT.
Awsome! If you don’t know what the fuck you are you certainly don’t need a gun ! Glad to see some one with some balls make a decision that isn’t isn’t afraid of being politically correct or offensive! Fuck em!
Nature isn’t perfect, and sometimes a person is born with the wrong hardware. Not something the rest of us should be passing judgment on, but if that person refuses to check the box on a form, they may be attempting to draw attention to themselves or their condition?
You don’t get to decide whether I “should” get to “pass judgement” (I’d consider it “have judgment”) on anything or anyone. If the mentally ill gender confused people apply for firearms, they “should” be denied the ability to purchase a firearm. There’s nothing worse than a mentally ill person with a firearm, as we’ve seen in prior mass shootings.
WTF don’t you understand about “shall not be infringed,” jackass?
Hey, dumbass! Each American citizen HAS THE RIGHT to keep and bear arms. Doesn’t mean ANY government agency is forced to do any more than DEFEND THAT RIGHT! How and where you get your hardware is a totally different issue.
Guess what? Nature isn’t perfect, and sometimes people are born with defective software, too. Something the rest of us need to be particularly careful of.
The rest of us call that “mentally ill”.
And if they get that gun, they might decide to “seek attention” by killing someone else. I’m pretty sure everyone already notices their “condition”…
Keep up the good work ATF . LOL !!!
Trans people clearly have mental health issues, as do all liberals. This is no different than other mental illness that should prohibit you from owning a weapon. Why would anyone give them a gun ? They can’t figure out who they are, man or woman.
They’re just messing with people again. It’s just not you guys so it’s another example when you are Constitutionalists all the way, except of course for people you don’t agree with. It would take 2 minutes for ATF to put “other” next to the other categories and let these people get on with their lives.
As for the posters here. You made your mistakes didn’t you. Why can’t you let these poor people make their own?! What part of “pursuit of happiness” don’t you understand? You don’t get to decide what pursuit of happiness is for other people, or what people think or do with their genitals!
It’s a poor ethics indeed that doesn’t go deeper than a person’s genitals. Jesus help us! JWC
Trans or genderqueer do have a 40% suicide rate. I support all law abiding citizens to own firearms. The question is on the form to aid in the background check.
You seem to have learned the Nazis tactics well. Congrats…. or something….
I run into this issue often with clients from Atlanta. I simply say either flip a coin to decide or make a call to make a decision, but if you wish to leave with your purchase you must answer all questions. Never had anyone refuse. I’ll beat ATF revises this question soon in future 4473 forms.
Sex is biologic….if you have a “Y” chromosome, your sex is “male.” No disputing that, regardless of how you “self-identify” from hour to hour
Brilliant comment, now if you could explain to the idiots on the left that there are more than 100 differences between male and female DNA, differences that can’t be changed by cutting something off or taking hormones you’d be a noble laureate!
All this crap shows how truly sick this country has become.
What part of shall not be infringed don’t they understand?
Why is ones gender necessary in order to exercise a constitutional right? We the PEOPLE, not We the Men, Woman & (fill in the blank) ______________.
Why ask any questions, then? Name, address, place of birth….all irrelevant, eh?
It’s all kind of inconsequential, if you like, believe in that all that Constitution stuff and the “shall not be infringed” text and all, but really, who gives AF about the Constitution?
Almost the entire country, troll. And it doesn’t really say anything about your right to pretend to be another sex….
I like the part where you refuse to accept yourself the way your are, but insist everyone else accept the way you want to be. Like Napoleon Bonaparte….
Just check a box and get on with your life. Sheesh.
Coming from a transwoman: good. Non-binary is imaginary and anyone who seriously identifies as non-binary has mental ilness beyond gender dysphoria.
if you keep licking boots maybe cis people will accept you 😉
Also coming from a trans woman: fuck you. You should know better then anyone that gender is a western social construct with no real meaning outside of it’s social implications.