Hunting Black Bear in Western Idaho with Hounds

I had the opportunity to take out a new rifle from Ruger—the AR-556 MPR chambered in 450 Bushmaster on a bear hunt this fall. Before I get to the hunt, I want to explain how the black bear is hunted. When hunting bear in Idaho, there are basically three different ways to go about doing it. The three methods include spot and stalk, baiting, and my own personal favorite, hound hunting. One of the reasons that hound hunting claims number one in my book is because of the complexity of the sport. It seems simple: buy a dog, let it go, and find the dog with the bear. This is not the case.

I grew up feeding and watering about a dozen Walker Hounds each day since I was five years old in order to complete my chores and play my role in sustaining my dad’s hobby. Because I am heavily involved with the behind-the-scenes work, I am aware of many parts of the sport that the majority of laypeople do not see.

The Complete Picture:

Hound hunters typically get into the sport because they had a friend with hounds who took them hunting once and they ended up enjoying the thrill that it provided. They then bought a few dogs and committed themselves to a journey.

It takes about $300 per month to feed 12 bottomless pits, several thousand dollars in tracking equipment, and an additional couple thousand in miscellaneous hunting equipment, not to mention wear and tear on the pickup you drive in order to just get started. That said, many people end up continuing on with their hound hunting endeavor because of another aspect of the hunt: the dogs themselves. They are the pride and joy of any houndsman. Houndsmen spend hours, days and weeks of their time in order to fine-tune these hunting machines. And they are just that: machines. Hounds live for the hunt. You cannot force a hound to chase after a ferocious ball of muscle, teeth, and claws. Instead, they have an innate drive to chase.

Houndsmen learn to shape and refine these creatures to be specific to certain game and efficient at the hunt. Because of their pure tenacity, it is almost frightening letting the dogs go knowing that you may spend the remainder of your day with miles and miles of walking in order to just recover them wherever they may end up. Thus, the thrill.

Sometimes things get a little bit western when bear hunting. This thrill keeps hunters excited about the next hunt. Here, a bear charges me while on horseback but the dogs get in the way.

The Equipment

If you are not the one that is tending the hounds, the list of required gear is not extensive. For some of these items, I don’t have any specific recommendations due to personal preferences. But there are a few I highly recommend, so I will specify those.  The things that I brought with me were as follows:

– Gun (Ruger AR-556 in 450 Bushmaster)

– Ammo (Hornady 450 Bushmaster 250 gr FTX)

– Knife (Gerber Vital razor knife)

– Pack (Eberlestock X2)

– Extra layers according to the weather

– Headlight

– Camera

– Food and water

– Proper licensing and permits

The most important item on the list, arguably, is the gun. I have been involved in shooting probably 100 bear or more in my life so I have seen what works well and what does not. You would expect that bigger is better, but I would argue against that logic. Many magnums (IE: 7mm Rem. Mag, 300 WSM, 28 Nosler, etc.) are what people show up with because of this thought. These rounds tend to penetrate through and through and then dump the rest of their remaining energy (typically a lot) into the tree or hill behind the bear. There’s a good time and place for them, but it is not hound hunting. On the other side of the coin, I have seen a bear shot with 44 Mag, 45-70 Gov. and 32 Special, to name a few. All of these do a much better job at killing these predators. Why? Because the round is so much bigger in diameter, the shock of the bullet going into the animal is much more traumatic. Also, because they are going slower, they will actually be caught within the animal, capturing 100% of the energy that the bullet left the barrel with, transferring into killing power. With this logic, I knew that the 5 rounds of Hornady 450 Bushmaster with a 250 gr bullet from the Ruger would be devastating on a black bear. If you disagree, that is okay, but personal experience has really proven this to me.

One of the many Idaho black bear that I have been involved with. At this point, the bear was already verified dead. The dogs were then let off of their leashes to claim their reward. This is an important step in the training process.

The Hunt

Most bear hunts start off in the pre-daylight hours of a weekend, but because I decided so late in the season to kill a bear, we chose to take advantage of the cool weekday afternoons in order to get some extra time and create more opportunities to find the bear I wanted. The day started out just as any: I went to work and dragged through it while thinking about guns and hunting. Once I got home, it was game time. All of the dogs were running around in the yard buzzing with excitement. For whatever reason, they always know when they are going to be taken out to hunt. I threw all of my gear into the bear hunting pickup (we have one dedicated to the sport) and my dad walked around the corner of the house quickly followed by a dozen running hounds who lined up and jumped into the dog box in the truck bed. Then it was all country music and summer air flowing through the pickup as we headed for the hills.

Arriving at the area where we will begin bear hunting. The dogs are let out of the box to get a drink and then moved up to the top where they can smell.

The first thing that we do when we arrive is to find a creek and let the dogs out to stretch and drink before the chase starts. Then they all get loaded onto the rigging rack on top of the pickup so they can smell for bear that have crossed, or have come near the road recently. Once they smell one, all of the dogs throw themselves into a frenzy of wagging tails, long bawling and twitching noses to make sure that you cannot miss it. The first afternoon of hunting, we struck four or five bears scents like this and ended up starting and catching three different ones. Sadly, they were all too small and were saved for another year.

One of the seven bears that we caught while looking for the big one. This 100 Lb. bear was saved for another year when he will be bigger.

The next available evening started out the exact same way, leading up to the first bear strike of the day. Once they abruptly exploded into barking, we unclipped the oldest, most experienced dogs, just as we always do. These hounds jumped off of the back of the pickup and slammed their noses to the ground, barking and chasing the scent. Once they started covering ground, we released all of the hounds and stood wondering if we would ever get them back, while we stared at the GPS screen hoping to guess how they would travel and where they would end up. Within the hour, the GPS alerted us that the dogs were all stopped. After a short drive, the work began. I grabbed my gear and headed off toward the tree with some leashes. Sadly, this first bear of the day was also a small one, so we collared the panting dogs and headed back up the hill.

Walking away from another bear tree because the bear was not big enough. Headed up the steep hill with dogs in tow.

We caught two more bears that afternoon that were also too small, so in hopes of finding a bigger bruin, we headed to a dead end road on a less accessible side of the mountain with the dogs following close behind. Free casting them like this is usually productive when in a creek bottom or dark canyon. Sure enough, their tails started helicoptering and noses went to work as they started trailing out. Next thing we knew, all of the hounds were gone and we could hear their barks echoing down the canyon. Again, within the hour, the dogs had caught the bear. Naturally, there were no roads near the bear due to the nature of the area where we had released them. After busting brush down into the canyon, we finally arrived at a tree with a large, mature boar lounging midway up a prize-sized yellow pine.

What you hope to see when arriving at the bear tree. A mature 250 Lb. male black bear taking a respite after a hard run from the hounds.

After leashing up the hounds to the surrounding trees, I found the spot that offered the clearest view and best angle for a shot on the bear. Because the bear is in a tree, the shot is never long, but can be tricky because of branches in the way. Luckily, this was not a problem. “Ready?” I asked my dad. “Yep, shoot him,” was his reply. All it took was one shot and the bear folded. He was dead before he hit the first branch on the way down.

Naturally, the dogs all fell silent when the shot went off and then erupted into maximum loudness as they saw the bear fall. As a reward, the dogs got let off of the leash once the bear was confirmed dead and they got to give him the final remarks before we chained them back up and went to work skinning the bear. In the autopsy, I saw that I hit the bear exactly where I was aiming. Typically, we like to shoot bear straight on in the center of the chest or behind the front shoulders. This is because bear vitals sit further back than most, and these shots do the most damage for the quickest kill. Because I was confident in the caliber as well as curious, I squared him up right on the front shoulder. The bullet went in as a .45 caliber hole and quickly turned into a much bigger cavity by the time it entered the chest, providing for major hemorrhaging.

Completely satisfied with a hunt that went well and the work that the hounds have done.

Needless to say, the Hornady 450 Bushmaster 250 gr round coming out of the Ruger AR-556 MPR impressed me and I will definitely trust my life to it while hunting dangerous game like this again.

The rest of the day simply consisted of packing the bear out of the steep hole that we caught him in and then going on to catch one more. In total, we caught four bears in a single evening. In the course of the two days during which I really hunted for a bear to kill, we ended up catching seven to choose from. If this doesn’t prove that hound hunting is the most efficient way to hunt bear, I don’t know what does. Assistance from the best dogs in Idaho certainly helps, too.

The long pack out. For some reason, it is uphill yet again and this time I am weighed down by the heavy pack.

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About the author: Riley Baxter is an avid and experienced hunter, shooter, outdoorsman, and he’s worked in the backcountry guiding for an outfitter. He also get’s a lot of enjoyment out of building or customizing his firearms and equipment. Check out Riley’s Instagram @Shooter300

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  • Ripster December 1, 2018, 12:51 am

    Thank you for a well written and informative article on hunting with dogs. It was educational and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • Robert Collins November 30, 2018, 2:44 pm

    Hunting my ass ! Hunting bear with dogs makes me sick.

    • Cyrus December 3, 2018, 12:08 pm

      I wish that bear had killed a few of those dogs before it was shot! Same Asshole probably hunts wolves from a helicopter!

  • Bill Wright November 30, 2018, 2:34 pm

    Had any run ins with wolves where you hunt? An elk hunting guide I met a few years ago hunted cougar with hounds in the winter…until he lost all his dogs one sad day to a pack of wolves.

  • Midwest Bowman November 30, 2018, 9:45 am

    I love it when hunters hate on other hunters for their way of doing things. The important thing is that you got a quick and clean kill with minimal sufferiung. As for the whole “fear factor” for the bear being chased by hounds, I wonder how all the fawns feel being chased by bears. Or how that buck feels when some Ted Nugent wannabe takes a ridiculous shot with a bow (I see this all time, constantly helping the same “hunters” look for deer) and hits the guts leaving an animal to suffer for a day or more before expiring.

    I will not ask if you ate the bear – personally I feel I would, but I shoot coyotes and do not eat them so I cannot say much on that part, that is your business (people say bear is good, but I have hear the same about coyotes – lmao). This is just another predator needing controlled and everyone is always so quick to demonize it, always trying to take humans out of the equation. I do not have bears where I live, but I would like to take one with my bow some day. From what I have heard it is difficult and seeing that you got to pick between so many in such a short span I would say you folks are pretty good at what you do. Great work.

    Some people shoot rifles, some shotguns, some archery – some people shoot deer, some elk, some bear, some ducks – some people hunt with hounds, some with bait, others spot and stalk or lie in ambush – the bottom line is every single one is a hunter using what method they choose or know. Quit being so damn judgemental, we are all hunters and should be supportive of one another.

    • Jim December 3, 2018, 12:27 pm

      More deer are killed by motorists than predators. I work ranches/farms and see the coyotes as a means of controlling what they eat the most: rabbits, sage rats and voles. Our alfalfa fields are overrun by sage rats every summer. We see the coyotes eating them all day long. You, in my opinion, are one of those hunters who shoots animals simply because you can. you head out into the field with your “coyote boom-box” and shoot an animal that is simply another link in the system. Want to know what a real pest is? The hundreds of deer that spend their evenings destroying our crops. remember – just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD.

      • Midwest Bowman December 5, 2018, 4:59 pm

        Thanks Jim for proving my point about people being judgmental.

        1. You did not say where you live, but I am going to assume since this is the internet, it is more than likely no where near where I do. Different places have different environments and situations.
        2. The coyotes where I hunt them are in cattle country, very overpopulated and bolder than most – just two weeks ago snatched a neighbors terrier right out of her backyard – WHILE SHE WAS OUTSIDE. They also killed the cattle farmer’s collie and shredded his German shepherd last year whose land I hunt. Once the calves are born, I literally can watch them stalking the group, waiting for an opportunity. I see them consistently while deer hunting. They are overpopulated here, constantly moving closer and closer into town. (PS I do not use E-callers. I have mouth calls and my decoys are simply goose wings tied to sticks. Put them in the wind and they come running.)
        3. I do not kill animals simply because I can. I do not shoot foxes, who come into my calls occasionally, because they are not that numerous here. I choose not to hunt any upland game in these areas because of populations as well, even though they have huntable populations in these areas. I could, but I do not.
        4. When I used the analogy of a bear chasing a fawn, I was not saying that they detrimentally effect the deer population, I was creating an example in nature where you have animals chasing one another (like hounds chasing a bear). It is the way it works. Also, just because a predator does not affect the deer population, does not mean its population does not need controlled. Look at black bears in Maine if you get the chance, and see what they are doing to try and bring the bear harvest up annually. It is not because the high bear population is detrimental to the moose and deer population, but because it would be detrimental to the BEAR population.

        Just keep on judging and I will keep on hunting – like I said – to each his own.

  • Chris Beyer November 30, 2018, 7:37 am

    This is not real hunting and it has the potential of hurting the image of hunters in general.

  • Jim November 30, 2018, 7:23 am

    You might ask yourself, Riley…why the visceral reaction to your method of hunting that so many have? I feel that same reaction when I read this story. Maybe take a moment and try to understand it. By the way…how do a couple of you pack out that much meat?

  • Rick Langille November 25, 2018, 2:10 pm

    I don’t think it’s fear to the bear it’s like shooting squirrel out of the tree.

    That’s not hunting!!!!

  • Bishop November 10, 2018, 1:05 am

    Hunting is withOUT “hounds”. You shouldn’t call yourself a hunter if you are using …”hounds” dogs, felines..etc.. A hunter; HUNTS, meaning he/she tracks for something. By definition a hunter is a person who searches for or seeks something. You using dogs to do your dirty work because you are to lazy to wait around in a tree stand or other, is pure garbage in you posting this as you are a “hunter”

    • Riley baxter November 13, 2018, 6:46 pm

      Thanks for your input.

    • BOB November 30, 2018, 9:25 am

      Totally agree with the previous comments! Any “dude” can outfit himself with your recommended equipment and blow a stationary target out of a tree. You’re a notch above the characters who gun down exhausted and terrified animals from a chopper. The dogs should be sitting next to their bear, they did do all the work!

  • Johnny November 7, 2018, 10:24 am

    Great write up on hunting with dogs (in this case hounds). I can’t even come begin to count how many people have given me the “how dare you!” look as a houndsman. You hear it all over the years “It’s mean to the dogs.” “It’s not hunting…you just dump a bunch of dogs in the woods, they tree/bay an animal and hunter just murders them!!!! KILLER!!!” and if you’ve ever hunted with dogs you know darn well that’s not the case. I love how you put that emphasis on how many bears you were able to spot because of the hounds, before actually harvesting that big bear you were looking for. Much like baiting, that’s the point. You see many many more in a shorter time span which gives a Hunter an idea of the size, and in some cases sex of the bear before ever taking a shot.

    Great example is in states like mine where baiting or running dogs on bear is not legal. Again, I can’t even come up with a number how many smaller 100-150lb bears have been shot simply because they predernt a shot. In many cases, guys will shoot a good sized bear only to see the cubs pop out 5-10min after the momma bear is dead.

    Bring in the dogs and that don’t happen. If there’s cubs, they’re either going to be in that tree with mom or, another close by so you know to pass on that one. Smaller bears don’t get shot simply because it’s the first one you’ve seen all season.

    Houndsmen get a bad rap and generally by those that just don’t quite get it. The sport is the dogs. The shot, well that’s about as anticlimactic as it gets. We do it for the dogs and yes, it pays off the way we hope like the author with his beautiful bear thanks to those dogs, and kept 6 others alive to grow because they were able to size them up before even thinking about taking a shot.

    Keep on doggin’!!!

    • Riley baxter November 13, 2018, 6:47 pm

      Thanks Johnny! I am glad that you understand what I was trying to bring across there. It’s sad how many people hate on hound hunters simply because of envy. They envy our success rates, as can be seen by the other comments here.

    • Saran Wrappe November 30, 2018, 6:29 pm

      Thank you Johnny for your comments. I had a visceral reaction to the article, but you resolved it with your knowledge of the whys. Good hunting to you.

    • Midwest Bowman December 1, 2018, 11:39 am

      After reading this article and reading up a little more about hunting with hounds, I have a great deal of respect for you guys who do it. It’s not popular or really practical where I live in central Illinois, but the history of it and methodology is really awesome.

      To all those hating on folks like you, saying it’s super easy and all that, forget them. It’s a lost art and I don’t think that they have any inclination as to the time, effort, and money that goes into training the dogs to specifically locate and hunt one specific animal. It’s also been around for thousands of years. I doubt I would ever get into it, might try it one day, you never know, but to each his own.

      If it’s so easy as people say, go get a dog, attempt to train it, try it for yourself.

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