Kahr’s Super-Slim Single-Stacks: CT40 and CT45 (REVIEW)

David Higginbotham Pistols

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Kahr CT 40 and CT 45

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Kahr CT 45

Of the two, the CT 45 would be my choice–but only because I like the bigger round.

Kahr’s latest line of pistols is something to see. The company’s taken all of the features of its premium pistols and shaved off the extras to leave behind an exceptionally functional pistol that sells for much less. It’s producing guns that can compete with anything on the market, and at a price point that spanks most of their competition. The CT45 and CT40 should be serious contenders for anyone looking for a concealed carry gun.

Let me back up a bit. If I were to describe my brand loyalties, Kahr wouldn’t make the list. I’ve got friends who will only carry Kahrs, but I’ve never cottoned to the brand. One of my main hangups has to do with the needed break-in period. Some of Kahr’s pistols need to be fired, a lot, in order to work reliably every single time you pull the trigger. I’ve shot, and reviewed, a number of Kahr pistols. While I like the guns, I’ve never warmed to the Kahr trend, at least not until now.  This new platform has addressed all of my concerns.

Kahr CT 40

The only texture on the gun itself is provided by the slide’s serrations, and they’re only at the rear.

The basic appeal of the CT40 and CT45 will be the delicate blend between the available firepower and the concealability. Both of these pistols are bigger than most compact concealed carry guns, yet they’re very thin, which makes them easier to conceal. What they give up in overall length (and length of grips), they make up for in width. And they get even more out of that width with the .40 S&W and .45 ACP.

After the consideration of form and function, the price is really going to shine. The CT line is listing for $449, which would put the retail price closer to $400.  We’ll talk more about that later. This is one of the biggest appeals for me personally, as I always judge guns based on a complex metric that pits performance against price. Kahr offers some design elements that are truly superb, and worth the extra money, but they often go unnoticed by the end consumer, which makes buyers less likely to pony up for the brand. Now Kahr’s taken that same design and brought it to market at a much lower price, which means the word is going to spread (which should raise awareness of the great design, which will bring value to the whole brand…). You see where this is going. The CT line is going to sell itself, and it will sell many of the other Kahr guns, too.

Kahr CT45

The mag release button is easy to access on both the CT40 and CT45.

What makes the Kahr different?

So what makes a Kahr different? The first is the action. Kahr is double-action only (DAO). The trigger cocks the hammer each time the trigger is pulled. Much of the competition uses a single-action striker-fired mode that leaves the tension on all of the time. I know many shooters who will say “I’d never carry a 1911 because I don’t trust cocked-and-locked.” Yet they’ll carry a polymer-framed pistol, one with no manual safety, that employs a similar mechanism. Kahr is a DAO, but you’d never know it when you pull the trigger. It has a discernible take up, but doesn’t stack at all. You pull the trigger back, and it pops at the same point every time. After a few shots, you can begin to anticipate the break. And it happens right at five pounds of pull.

That’s the big one. The rest of the design features may seem more typical, but they’re all done well. The feed ramps on the CT line are polished and sufficiently long. The guns will eat anything you feed them. We even had some really obnoxious flat-nosed .45 ACP that would lock back all of my 1911s, but not the CT45. That makes practicing with the gun much easier. And the giant extractor on the guns flip out brass reliably and consistently.

Kahr CT45

The polished feed ramps are built into the barrel.This gun will eat anything.

Both of these are big improvements over some of the other Kahr pistols I’ve shot, the ones that required break-in periods. I don’t believe a gun should have a break-in period, at least no one meant for concealed carry. How would you know when it is broken in? What do you carry while you’re waiting for it to break in? If the gun has an advertised break-in period of 200 rounds, you have to add that to the initial cost of the gun. With so many companies offering pistols that work, right out of the box, it just seems dubious to me.

Not that it doesn’t have its benefits. A 200-round break-in means you’ll learn your way around all kinds of jams. Knowing that you can clear misfeeds and stovepipes and failures of all sorts is imperative. And after 200 rounds, you should be broken-in, too. So maybe every gun should come with a mandatory 200-round shooter-education period. But I still want it to work, out of the box. That seems like a small thing to expect. And the good news is that both of these Kahrs are rock stars. Not only did we not have any failures, we had no performance related issues at all. Not a single one in either the CT45 or the CT40.

Kahr CT 40

The CT 40 will hold seven rounds of .40 S&W.

Carrying the CT45 and CT40

These are both single-stack guns designed for concealed carry. With the longer barrels, there is an increase in accuracy potential and muzzle energy. The single-stack design makes the guns easier to carry, but it sacrifices rounds. Both hold just seven rounds. While that isn’t enough, you have to consider the size advantage. I’m a big guy. At 6’4″ and 240 pounds, I can conceal a lot around my waist, especially if I’m dressing baggy. Yet I know some rail-thin dudes (and women, too) who like to show off how thin they are. They wear flat-front slacks and tuck in their shirts. They can’t conceal a 1911 in appendix carry. But these guns are more flexible. The only difficulty is the length of the CT45’s grip.

All of the edges of the the CT line have been knocked back. The front of the slides are beveled, which helps when inserting the pistols into stiff Kydex holsters.  The only real texture comes from the rear slide serrations. Even the grip has rough texture on the front strap and the back, but a smoother pebbled texture on the wide flats. The combinations offer just enough texture to make carrying the gun as easy as shooting it. It is a compromise between the necessities of both, and an effective compromise, at that.

Kahr CT 40

When working from the holster with the CT 40, I consistently hit left.

Shooting

I’ve already talked about reliability. The guns worked great. We’ll move past that though to some other obvious considerations. The .40 S&W is punchy. The round is often packaged in 9mm-sized guns that kick like small mules. I didn’t believe this myself until I completed a training class and ran through about 700 rounds of .40 in six hours. My hand was a bit numb. I can do that with 9mm and not feel it. Same for the .45. But the .40 has a way of beating up my hands. The Kahr CT40 is no different. Its thin design makes recoil feel a bit sharp. Yet, in a defensive handgun use, I’d rather have the terminal ballistics of the .40. So you have to make that decision yourself.

As both of these guns draw cleanly, and present naturally, they’re easy to use. I can draw either from concealment and get a round on target in just over 1.7 seconds. The CT line is easy to point shoot. The wide, flat slide catches the light and shows up well on a basic silhouette-sized target.

Kahr CT 40

I had better results with the CT 40 than I did with the CT 45. Even from the holster, this gun is easy to get on target.

If you want to put a round on the bulls-eye, you can. The sight system is intuitive. The rear sight, which is drift adjustable, has a black pyramid shape with a white line. That center line matches a white dot front sight. Though the front sight is pinned, the back sight can be adjusted. It is dovetailed in and held with friction.

Most of the shooting we did with these guns was on steel. I like to do two drills with concealed carry pistols. On steel targets, I like to shoot 12-inch plates at varying distances. I draw from concealment and run through five plates (and I prefer to give each plate two hits, which is harder with only one seven-round magazine). Both of these guns performed well enough. The available ammunition allowed me to miss twice, which isn’t uncommon when I’m flying through the sequence.

The other drill I like is single shots, on paper, from the holster. I holster the gun, and with the help of a shot timer, draw and fire one shot from seven yards. I then reholster. Rinse, repeat. This drill lets me know exactly how close to point of aim I’m getting, as I always try to hit the bulls-eye. Still, the emphasis isn’t on accuracy, exactly, but a combination of speed and accuracy that I’d call practical accuracy. And the Kahr’s shine. Several of my shots were pulling left, typical for me, but I was able to adjust and bring them back to center.

Kahr CT 40

As the CT line is really flat, an adaptable holster (like this Sticky Holster) comes in handy.

In all, we ran through close to 1,000 rounds with both of these guns. I used a random mix of Hornady’s critical defense and critical duty and Winchester’s White box .40 S&W. I had a slew of .45 ACP reloads, both lead round-nosed and flat-nosed, that worked well. There didn’t seem to be much difference in point of impact between any of the various rounds, though I would say that Hornady’s Critical Duty, as advertised, is hot.

 

The difference in the various models

If you’re looking into the Kahr line, you can easily get confused. For starters, Kahr names guns with a typical gun nomenclature that is easy to follow, but not terribly descriptive. The CT, TP, PW…. The easy fix is to find the two variations you might want to juxtapose and see how they compare. The TP line is Kahr’s premium polymer pistol equivalent of the CT lineup. Here are the basic features.

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The CT45

Caliber: .45 ACP
Capacity: 7+1
Operation: Trigger cocking DAO; lock breech;
“Browning – type” recoil lug; passive striker block;
no magazine disconnect
Barrel: 4.04″, conventional rifling; 1 – 16.38 right-hand twist
Length O/A: 6.57″
Height: 5.25″
Slide Width: 1.01″
Weight: Pistol 23.7 ounces, Magazine 2.4 ounces
Grips: Textured polymer
Sights: Drift adjustable white bar-dot combat rear sight
Finish: Black polymer frame, matte stainless steel slide
Magazine: 1 – 7 rd Stainless
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The Tp45

Caliber: .45 ACP
Capacity: 7+1
Operation: Trigger cocking DAO; lock breech;
“Browning – type” recoil lug; passive striker block;
no magazine disconnect
Barrel: 4.04″, polygonal rifling, 1 – 16.38 right-hand twist
Length O/A: 6.57″
Height: 5.25″
Slide Width: 1.01″
Weight: Pistol 20.8 oz., Magazine 2.4 oz.
Grips: Textured polymer
Sights: Drift adjustable, white bar-dot combat sights
Finish: Black polymer frame, matte stainless steel slide
Magazines: 3 – 7 rd, Stainless

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The differences are easy enough to tease out. The CT line has traditional rifling. The TP has polygonal rifling. Which one is better? The price would imply the polygonal is better, but it is a subject of considerable debate.

Kahr CT45

The CT 45 is big enough to hold and shoot, yet small enough to hide.

The slide has more milling on the TP line, which shaves off a bit of weight. The front sight on the TP is adjustable; the CT’s rear sight is drift adjustable, but not the front.  Other than that, it comes down to magazines. The CT line only ships with one. The TP comes with three.

The CT has an MSRP of $449. The TP lists at $697. All told, that isn’t a bad deal either. I can’t imagine owning a pistol with only one magazine. That just seems a bit foolhardy. Extra mags sell for $44, so two more mags would bring the CT45 price up to somewhere in the $550 range after applicable taxes. I can carry the extra two ounces easily enough. I’m not convinced polygonal rifling makes that much of a difference, at least not enough to justify the extra cost. If this were a target gun, I’d want adjustable sights. The CT line just seems to be a much better value for me.

In the end, I have to hand it to Kahr. This new line of guns is going to revolutionize the way people approach the brand. They should sell well. They will perform even better.

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Kahr CT 40

The CT40 has the same reliable feed ramp and external extractor.

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Kahr CT 40

Line up the white parts, and you should be good to go.

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Kahr CT 40

The slide drop is the hardest part to work. It is narrow, to avoid snags. I suggest using the whole slide.

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Kahr CT 40

The CT40 and CT45 both have large extractors that we couldn’t get to fail.

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Kahr CT 40

The lines on the CT series are consistent with Kahr’s streamlined concealed carry philosophy.

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Kahr CT 40

The shorter grip on the CT40 still allows for a full grip on the gun.

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The front sight on the CT 40 is tall enough to be useful for well aimed shots.

The front sight on the CT 40 is tall enough to be useful for well aimed shots.

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Kahr CT 40

The frames on the CT line are deceptively simple. Though they look thin, the gun is rock solid.

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Kahr CT 40

The CT line is incredibly easy to take apart, and there are no loose pieces to lose.

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Kahr CT45

The front of the pistols has been beveled, which is a nice touch. It helps with holstering in rigid Kydex.

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Kahr CT45

The flat-topped slides help with point shooting. The steel catches the light, making the gun easy to align.

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Kahr CT45

The back of the grip is really aggressive. The ridges are crisp and deep.

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Kahr CT45

In order to accommodate the ammo, the grip has to be a bit longer on the .45.

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Kahr CT45

The triggers on the Kahrs are one of the most notable features. They may be the best in this class of gun. This one breaks just north of 5 pounds. Not bad for DAO.

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Kahr CT45

As this is a gun meant for concealed carry, I ran it from the holster. Results from seven yards were solid.

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  • Agithano May 15, 2016, 2:21 pm

    I purchased a kahr cm9 in march took it to the range and 220 round of 9mm through only one ftf other than than functioned flawlessly. When I got home I noticed that the end of the guide rod was missing. Sent it back to kahr the same day as purchased. Took forever to get it back. When I got it back took it to the range and put another 100 rounds through. So far so good, no further problems. Dissapointed in quality of guide rods from factory but function is great. Awesome shooting firearm, comfortable in hand and concealed carry. For a budget line of firearm I would recommend to anyone with notice that guide rods are faulty. Will function very well even if guide rod fails. Has long trigger pull but in combat situation probably won’t be noticeable. Recoil is not over powering and returns to battery rapidly with good grip.

  • keith October 12, 2014, 12:14 am

    i own a cw9 for a year now , carry it everyday,i am no expert but consider this to be the perfect combo of range and conceal carry use. great autoloader for the beginner or expert. i added a crimson trace,pachmayr grip and explorer holster and couldnt be more pleased. paid 325.00 for the gun and i honestly believe this to be the best deal for ccw.very reliable and easy to shoot.early on i had an issue with the mag release.sent it back to kahr on their dime,it took 10 weeks to get it back but with no cost to me has been perfect for 10 months now not a hint of a problem. great firearm.in case u cant tell yet,i love it.shoot safely and always welcome newcomers to our sport.

    • Tom Hart January 27, 2016, 9:01 am

      I also own a CW9, having been a very loyal Glock carrier for 20 years. The attraction to me was its size for carry. Its amazing how smooth the trigger is and how accurate the gun is. I’ve run everything through this gun from steel case, aluminum case and old crappy 9mm military brass and mixed it up in the same magazine. Well over 1000 rounds and never a hick up. I didn’t even clean it for the 1st 300 rounds just to see what would happen. I was so impressed I went and bought a CT9. The magazines are also extremely high quality.

  • steven August 26, 2014, 8:16 pm

    I just bought the cm40. its my first pistol and i fell in love with how it felt in my hand. I wanted a gun that fit in a little compartment under my steering wheel and it did. I wish it had the stopping power of the 10mm but looking up the history of the 40 S&w it was designed to be the size of a 9mm with more take down power. I live in Alaska and hope it would stop a bear. the two problems I have had so far is the first bullet wont load every time. I have tried FMJ and hollow points and it gets jammed right under the barrel. I havf to pull back the slide sometimes more than once to chamber it. The other problem is the slide release lever. its so hard to push down. in the manual it said its harder without a loaded clip so i hope its all part of breaking it in. p.s its loud!

    • Al January 28, 2016, 1:14 am

      Steven, For that 1st round FTF problem: Khar recommends that you don’t rack the slide! Lock it back. Insert your magazine. Then drop the slide with the slide release lever. That should do it.

  • Jim July 11, 2014, 9:27 am

    Have both a CW9 and a CM9. Over 300 rounds through each of them. Never an issue. They have been 100%.
    Both shoot really well. Surprised how well the shorter barreled CM9 shoots. Actually we are shooting it as well as the longer barreled CW9.
    We love the DAO triggers, nice consistent steady pull.

  • joe shmoe June 20, 2014, 8:17 pm

    So what makes a Kahr different? The first is the action. Kahr is double-action only (DAO). The trigger cocks the hammer each time the trigger is pulled.

    these are striker fired weapons.Ignoramus!

    • BUB December 16, 2014, 8:44 am

      joe shmoe provides testimony as to why he’s probably divorced, has no friends, and recently won the “Last Person I’d Shoot With” honor at the range. He is now required to wear both ear and mouth plugs!

  • joe shmoe June 20, 2014, 8:16 pm

    Hey jackass!!!!!!!!
    “So what makes a Kahr different? The first is the action. Kahr is double-action only (DAO). The trigger cocks the hammer each time the trigger is pulled.”
    didnt know these guns had a hammer? did you modify yours to something we all dont know about. one thing i cant stand is an ignorant gun reviewer that cant proofread!

  • Robert Smith June 20, 2014, 4:30 pm

    I have a CW45, shorter cousin of the CT. Great grip feel, sights are fast to acquire and shoot right to POA. Unlike the reviewer, I could not get flat points to feed reliably, (185 gr. and 200 gr. LSCW), but no trouble with 230 gr. RN. I agree with the comment about hard to field strip. You have to literally pry out the slide release lever, which is also the take-down pin, while holding the slide in an awkward position under full tension of the recoil spring. Putting it back together is not helped by the stiff, uncaptured recoil spring. Those of you used to stripping your Glock are not going to like this feature. I like the trigger but it does not feel like a DA revolver trigger at all. It is long, not heavy (about six lbs.), but its exceptional smoothness makes it feel like less. With practice, I can easily maintain my sight picture during the trigger press. Still, for those whose ideal trigger is a glass-rod breaking 1911-style single action, its probably not for you. Overall, I enjoy it, though I understand why some others will not.

  • Dale June 19, 2014, 12:11 am

    I have never shot the Kahr .45, but I do own a Kahr P9 – 9mm. I will never buy another Kahr! The ONLY thing I like about it is the sights. I hate the trigger, and I especially hate how hard the thing is to field strip for cleaning! I need a 3rd hand! I am seriously considering buying a Sig – 938 to replace it!

  • Tim June 16, 2014, 7:15 pm

    Yawn………. Except for a nice, consistent DAO trigger and a beefy extractor……………….they are just a couple among an ever increasing long line of modern day quality pistols………these having the distinction of being without many features that can be purchased in other very high quality Firearms at competitive pricing. It would take a lower price to induce me to abandon the handguns I’ve chosen for one with less of everything.

    • david hon June 18, 2014, 3:37 am

      Since I had kids the target shooting was put on a shelf, so it’s been 15 – 20 years, I got far sighted and other visual problems so I couldn’t see any of the sights and my ophthalmologist had no clue how to make shoot glasses for me, at the time, as I google sites I find out that the intervening time that has changed and prescription shooting glasses are readily available. Then I decided to get my Concealed Carry. I have a new found passion for shooting paper. I bought a Kahr cw40 and a Taurus .380 auto. I read all the reviews about the awful recoil, from weight and caliber, of these. Years ago, I shot mainly 357 mag and 44 mag, so I was truly shocked to find out at the range that neither was even close to the recoil that I was used to. Due to it’s design, the Kahr does punish the thumb web after a while and I would recommend a shooting glove (I used a $9 dollar mechanix glove I had already). The 380 was like shooting a pea shooter, you could do it all day, if you could afford the overpriced .380 ammo. I fits in any waist with a sticky holster, even work out shorts. The 40 you need a substantial holster, I have a black mumba, but it is fine with most shorts in the waistband and most of the time, for the good or the bad, you don’t realize you have it on.

  • David Kuhns June 16, 2014, 6:00 pm

    I own and carry a Kahr CM9. I have fired around 300 rounds thru it with no failures of any kind. The trigger takes a little getting used to but it is smooth, smooth, smooth. I will definitely try the CT45 as I like the fire power of 45acp. I did own the Springfield XDS .45 and did not like it at all due to excessive recoil. I sold it and got the Kahr. My Springfield 1911 in .45acp is my favorite hand gun and would carry it if it wasn’t so hard to conceal.

    QUESTION, how is the recoil of the CT45?

  • 1970Ronnie June 16, 2014, 3:48 pm

    I have had several Kahr’s ,2=P-40’s,2=CW-40,=CW-9,1=CM-40.3=CW-45.and 1=K-40..They all were good,had some issues with the early p-40’s,and I have a current CCW is the CW-45,and I got it last year.In the first 200 rounds it would fail to extract every 4-5th shot of anything,Fed 230 grain FMJ,Win. 230 gr FMJ, Speer Gold dot 200 grain,Hornady H.P. 200 grain,Hornady Zombie max 180 grain.and some old ball ammo.Sent it back to Kahr they swapped out the barrel and recoil spring and it runs flawless now has ate up hollow points and fmj ammo of all kinds with no failures up to 700 rounds now and it has not had any failures in the last 250-300 rounds.The early P-40’s i had went back to them and they still had issues feeding and ejecting.I will say this my CW-45 is more accurate than my Custom Shop Kimber Eclipse and way more reliable.Those Kimbers have been unreliable for me even with various mags (Jam ‘o’Matics) and tit for tat against all my Sigs in 45acp I have ever owned..The only other 45 acp I ever had that was as accurate was a old 4506 smith that had the squared trigger guard. These Kahrs in 45 acp will surprise you if you have not tryed one you need to.Check Gunbroker I have got 2 off there for less than $350.00 ea and they are well worth it..But yes you need to shoot it I would say at least 100 rounds of various ammo not just ball or fmj.Shoot what you will be carrying if your life depend on it..But what ever you do, DO NOT SHOOT RELOADS IN IT…Found out the hardway they do not like them at all..Thanks Ronnie.

    • Chris November 29, 2014, 6:41 pm

      My CW45 shoots my reloads with no problem at all. Your reloads must be suspect.

  • Gerald June 16, 2014, 1:18 pm

    Kahr gets a bum rap for there recommendation of 200 round break in period . Every gun writer always suguested that before you stake your life on any carry gun you should shoot 200 rounds as a implied break in period.They know that a broke in side arm is more dependable and there not afraid to but that in there owners manual . This is not a statement of concern for poor design or bad quality control in the manufacturing process.

  • Jack June 16, 2014, 12:26 pm

    I purchased a CM9 about 2.5 years ago and had 2 or 3 failure to fully ejects in the first 50 rounds; non since, after more than 500 rounds. I wasn’t pleased with the long 6 pound trigger pull that came with the pistol, I seemed to pull to the left a little so I swapped the original ±6 lb. factory striker spring with a Wolff 5 lb. spring and it is a sweet and accurate conceal carry pistol now.

    • Jack June 17, 2014, 9:15 am

      I forgot to mention that after getting those 2 or 3 failures to eject casings completely, I disassembled the CM9 and did a through cleaning of the gun. I removed all of the heavy lubricant that Kahr coats their pistols with at the factory and lubed the pistol with Otters gun oil which is a much lighter weight gun oil.
      This is probably why I haven’t had any problems since.

  • hncpac June 16, 2014, 10:37 am

    For my part the Kahr is the “family” concealed carry gun of choice. All the men carry either the 9mm or the 40 and the ladies have been won over by the new 380. The only thing lacking is the light rail as another writer commented. We compensate by using the Crimson Trace laser that attaches to the frame and trigger guard. The things that won us over were the near 100% reliability ( I don’t think we have had 5 FTF’s between the 6 of us and several thousand rounds) and the trigger. The Kahr trigger is without a doubt the best in the whole class of pocket pistols. Firstly it is METAL and feels like a traditional trigger to the touch. The pull is longish but in the end very similar to a double action revolver. My best shooting with my Kahr is produced by smoothly making the long steady pull backwards and just concentrating on my sight picture while letting the “break” surprise me. Count me a Kahr fan…
    -H-

  • Thom Humphreys June 16, 2014, 10:10 am

    I own a Black Diamond P45 and a PM40 and these guns are accurate and reliable. Kahr has always been helpful if I had a problem. My followers kept breaking and they sent me newly redesigned followers for free and after many shots the pistols re still going fine. Just lube the thing up because they like to be wet.

  • paul bass June 16, 2014, 10:05 am

    have the pm9 and the tp45. love both. the 9 took 57 rounds to fully break in (slide returning to full battery) and now up to about a thousand rounds through it with no malfunctions. equipped with a crimson tracer, carry it every day. the tp45 is a dream to shoot. points naturally and handles flawlessly. took no break in time. only criticism is small capacity of magazine relative to long grip size. holds 7 rounds but much longer than a 1911. or my compact XD45 (which is double stack 10 round mag)

  • Sid J. June 16, 2014, 9:25 am

    I have the P45 KAHR that shoots better, feeds better than most other 45’s I’ve shot (you name it) the only complaint is it sometimes doesn’t like reloads but that seldom. Great consideration if your looking and Hey, their made right here in Mass.

  • Charles Rothera June 16, 2014, 7:53 am

    First, thanks for the article; very well done and useful. Based on a review of the Kahr 380, I bought one and really do like it. I did have to return for repair after about 100 rds or so, as the extractor broke. It came back about 3 months later with a new serial number! I dont have a clue why, but I had to redo the paperwork, which was a bit annoying considering the wait.

  • Cary Kieffer June 16, 2014, 6:02 am

    I enjoyed your article and love Kahr pistols. Having broke in 4 new ones now I have found only 1 actually needed the break in period. (200 rds by the manual) That one straitened up and ran perfectly ever since after round #78. So I think Kahr is just playing it safe with that. The one complaint I have with them is they should put them out with a light rail for something small like the Streamlight TLR-3.

  • Mark N. June 13, 2014, 2:00 am

    I have a CW9, which is quite similar to these two pistols. The break-in (200 rounds by the manual) was flawless. In 400 rounds, there have been two ftf because of rounds nose-diving, but that is it. I too tend to pull a bit left, but that is, I think, largely because the trigger breaks almost all the way back–a very long pull–that gets in the way of my support hand. Which means I start pushing the trigger rather than pulling it. The slide release with a two hand hold tends to rub on my right thumb when trying to hold as high as possible. I also found the checkering to be too aggressive, and purchased a Hogue Jr. grip sleeve that smoothed out the serrations without reducing grip, and added a finger groove on the front strap and palm swells that make the gun fit the hand all the better. I am very pleased with this pistol.

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