Disneyworld and the Death of Osama bin Laden

If Ever There was a Guy Who Just Needed Killing…

Disney World is all wholesome glitz, family adventure, and kid-friendly chaos.  

We were at Disneyworld, the Happiest Place on Earth. It had been a grueling day of unfettered fun and frivolity. We took one last trek around Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and settled in for the Electric Light Parade. We were tired, but it was a good sort of tired.

The Main Street Electrical Parade is an opportunity for exhausted families to rest their tired feet a bit before heading out into the Magic Kingdom to start all over again.   

The ropes already defined the parade route, and folks were jockeying for the prime seats on walls, bridges, and curbs. I squeezed my three-year-old daughter close and basked in the moment.

The unexpected news energized the throngs at Disney.    

An odd wave suddenly swept through the crowd. Imagine the sound of twenty thousand people whispering in hushed tones and you get the gist. The total stranger sitting next to me turned his phone in my direction and said, “Get a load of this.” At that moment some guy jumped the rope and began running the length of the parade route shouting, “We got him! We got him! We killed Bin Laden!”

Navy SEAL Rob O’Neill had killed the most wanted man on earth.

Amongst countless happy children, ludicrously overpriced food, sundry costumed characters, and wholesome family-friendly excitement aplenty the entire park raised a coordinated cheer. Halfway around the world, a US Navy SEAL named Rob O’Neill had drilled a pair of Black Hills 77-grain OTM 5.56mm rounds through the brain of the single most reviled human being on the planet. That night at Disneyworld this fact seemed like cause for celebration.

After a decade-long hunt, the mastermind behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks had finally gotten his just reward.

In the months and years that followed rumors would flourish, an official narrative would unfold, and controversy aplenty would be fomented. However, what most everybody could agree upon was that Osama bin Laden, the architect of the single greatest terrorist attack in modern history, was finally queued up to meet his seventy dark-haired virgins.

The Target

Osama bin Laden was one of dozens of siblings. He is shown here circled on the right at age 15 on a family vacation in Europe.

Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden was born on March 10, 1957, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He was the son of Yemeni Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden and his tenth wife Syrian Hamida Alia Ghanem. Osama’s parents divorced soon after he was born, and his mother subsequently married Mohammed al-Attas. Osama’s family was fabulously wealthy, and he later inherited between 25 and 30 million dollars.

A young bin Laden studied martial arts while living in Riyadh.  

Bin Laden was raised as a devout Sunni Muslim. He wrote poetry and was an avid reader. He was a particular acolyte of Bernard Montgomery and Charles de Gaulle. He played center forward on his association soccer team.

Osama bin Laden was, by accounts, a fairly personable guy when he wasn’t plotting the mass murder of innocent people.

Bin Laden married either five or six times and fathered between 20 and 26 children. He stood six foot four and was left-handed. Associates described him as soft-spoken and mild-mannered.

Bin Laden despised America, Israel, and the West in general for its decadent ways. I’m not sure exactly what deep hidden meaning this bin Laden tattoo carries, but I doubt he would have approved.

For Osama bin Laden hate was a fungible commodity to be traded, invested, and frequently spent. He reviled America because of its “fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and usury.” He despised Jews on principle for reasons that are difficult for me to comprehend. He opposed all music on religious grounds but was fascinated by earth-moving machinery and genetically engineered plants.

Osama bin Laden was a complicated man with some frankly bizarre views on a variety of subjects. Had he not chosen to wage war on the world’s Western democracies he likely would have lived out his years as a wealthy eccentric.

Bin Laden was terrified of climate change. He once wrote that Americans should work with President Obama to make “a rational decision to save humanity from the harmful gases that threaten its destiny.” Bin Laden studiously avoided chilled water.

Bin Laden and the United States were nominally allies when he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

Bin Laden organized and trained mujahidin fighters opposing Soviet troops in Afghanistan. He was at the time tacitly supported by the CIA through the Pakistani intelligence services. In the summer of 1988, bin Laden and a few others formed al-Qaeda which literally translates “The Base.” Prerequisites for membership included listening ability, good manners, obedience, and a pledge to follow one’s superiors.

9/11 fundamentally transformed the American way of life. Every time you have to queue up and take off your shoes in an airport you have Osama bin Laden to thank.

Al-Qaeda committed sundry acts of terrorism for more than a decade, earning bin Laden the disdain of the civilized world.

Bin Laden hid in plain sight for nine years in Abbottabad, Pakistan, less than a mile from the Pakistani equivalent of West Point.

The Mission

One option considered to eliminate bin Laden was a massive strike with stealth bombers. The plan was to obliterate the entire area with 32 two-thousand-pound JDAM precision munitions.

Bin Laden’s extensive compound in Abbottabad was located a mere 0.8 miles from the Pakistani Military Academy. The collection of buildings was surrounded by a 12 to 18-foot concrete wall topped with barbed wire. The roof of the largest sported a seven-foot privacy fence behind which bin Laden could stroll unobserved. Unlike their neighbors, the occupants of the compound burned their garbage.

The US Naval Special Warfare Development Group specializes in direct action missions.

Bin Laden was a smart guy, and he apparently thrived in anonymity for some nine years in Pakistan. The options considered by the National Command Authority included leveling the compound with precision-guided munitions delivered by B2 Spirit bombers, a precision drone strike on bin Laden’s person, or a direct action mission to capture or kill him.

Paws on the ground. A military working dog was an integral part of the bin Laden strike force.

President Obama authorized Operation Neptune Spear, and Navy SEALs from the US Naval Special Warfare Development Group or DevGru hit the compound at 0100 local time on May 2, 2011. Within JSOC DevGru is frequently referred to as Task Force Blue.

A pair of highly modified Sikorsky MH60 Blackhawks carried the initial strike team into bin Laden’s compound.

79 JSOC and CIA operators along with 1 Belgian Malinois military working dog named Cairo made the insertion in five helicopters from the US Army’s Task Force 160.

All but the tail assembly of the highly classified aircraft was intentionally destroyed.

One of the Task Force stealth Blackhawks used on the insertion encountered a vortex ring state once it descended within the confines of the compound’s walls and crashed. The pilot’s exceptional skill kept the aircraft and its occupants largely intact.

The expansive compound was home to at least 22 people.

The disabled $60 million aircraft was blown up during the extraction.

This is purported to be a photo of Osama bin Laden’s son Khalid who was killed in the approaches to Osama’s bedroom.

Within the compound, the SEALs found four adult males, five adult females, and thirteen children. Five residents of the compound ultimately died.

The most widely recognized version of events has the Navy SEALs assaulting upward through the main building in the compound starting from the ground floor. Members of the assault team peeled off to secure rooms as they passed in accordance with their training. Bin Laden’s son Khalid was shot and killed in a stairwell leading up to the third floor.

It could have been any one of the DevGru SEALs who ended up pushing their way into the bedroom of Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden’s final redoubt was a cluttered bedroom filled with screaming women and children.

The vagaries of chance led US Navy SEAL Rob O’Neill into the head of the stack as they approached bin Laden’s bedroom. The power was cut to the compound, and the SEALs were operating under night vision goggles. Bin Laden fleetingly stuck his head out into the hallway but retreated.

Bin Laden’s signature weapon was a Soviet AKS-74U carbine, frequently seen with an extended 45-round RPK-74 magazine.

Once the lead operators pushed into the bedroom the narrative holds that bin Laden was standing behind one of his wives gripping her by the shoulders. Another of his wives purportedly rushed the SEALs only to be shot in the leg and tackled to the floor. O’Neill subsequently shot bin Laden twice in the forehead and once in the chest. The two Black Hills Ammunition 77-grain Open Tip Match bullets blew out much of bin Laden’s forehead and enucleated one of his eyes. By all accounts, he died instantly of his wounds.

The HK 416 was purpose designed for close quarters battle in the hands of America’s finest warriors.

Inside bin Laden’s bedroom, the SEALs found a Makarov pistol, an AKS-74U carbine, Just for Men black hair dye, and a treasure trove of computer equipment. They also discovered a large stash of opium. The raid was planned to take 40 minutes. The SEALs exfilled at 38.

The Weapon

The HK 416 is arguably the finest close combat weapon in the world.

The HK 416 was developed in the 1990s as a collaborative effort between Heckler and Koch and the US Army’s Delta Force, specifically their R&D NCO Larry Vickers. Drawing components from the HK G36, the canceled XM8, and the British SA80, the HK 416 utilized the general chassis of the M4 Carbine combined with the short stroke gas piston operating system of the AR18.

The HK 416 was designed from the outset for flawless reliability.

Delta transitioned to the 416 in 2004. The militaries of Norway and France have since adopted the 416 as their standard Infantry weapon as have many special operations units around the globe. A friend who served seven combat tours as a Delta shooter told me their 416 rifles required little if any maintenance.

Many of the Navy SEALs who assaulted bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound carried sound-suppressed HK MP7 submachine guns.

The 416 sports a cold hammer forged barrel rated for 20,000 rounds and weighs between 6.5 and 8.5 pounds dependent upon accessories. In general, a 416 weighs about a pound more than a comparably equipped direct gas M4. In factory testing, the 416 was expected to fire 10,000 rounds on full auto without a malfunction.

The decision to kill Osama bin Laden was one of the few issues of policy with which President Obama and I saw eye to eye. Vice President Joe Biden was the only member of the President’s advisory team to completely oppose the operation.

Some of the SEALs on the bin Laden mission carried HK MP7 submachine guns or FN MK48 belt-fed weapons.

Denouement

Navy SEAL Rob O’Neill has parlayed those three fateful shots into a successful media career. However, he deserves such success far more than most of the celebrities we Americans venerate.

The killing of bin Laden is the only major policy decision made by President Obama with which I wholeheartedly agree. Rob O’Neill has taken his share of flak from within the Special Operations community for coming out of the shadows.

Bin Laden’s outrage stemmed from issues most Americans cared little about. US involvement in Lebanon is typically considered a footnote in modern American history.

However, at the time our nation needed a hero, and the guy who killed Osama bin Laden seems like the perfect one to me.

Being an internationally recognized terrorist mastermind doesn’t have much of a retirement plan.

Bin Laden claimed to have fomented 9/11 out of outrage over US involvement in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, and American support for Israel. Oddly, his casus belli involved some issues few Americans cared much about.

Osama bin Laden ultimately met his end cowering behind a woman in his darkened bedroom. The respectful treatment we afforded his body was better than he deserved.

For his part, bin Laden appears to have tired of the lifestyle. His will included an entreaty for his children to avoid both al-Qaeda and jihad.

Bin Laden’s body was prepared for burial in accordance with Muslim tradition and then disposed of at sea from the USS Carl Vinson. Mohamed Ahmed el-Tayeb, the head of Egypt’s Al-Azhar University and a respected Sunni Muslim scholar, called the aquatic burial an affront to religious and human values. Whatever. He’s lucky we didn’t truck the guy’s moldy corpse from town to town and charge people a quarter apiece to poke it with sticks. If ever there was a man who just needed killing, it was Osama bin Laden.

Prospective terrorists should never underestimate American resolve when it comes to bringing their ilk to justice.

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About the author: Will Dabbs was born and raised in the Mississippi Delta, having been immersed in hunting and the outdoors since his earliest recollections. He holds a degree in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Mississippi and is the product of a traditional American nuclear family. Where most normal American kids get drunk to celebrate their 21st birthday, Will bought his first two machineguns. Will served eight years as an Army Aviator and accumulated more than 1,100 flight hours piloting CH47D, UH1H, OH58A/C, and AH1S helicopters. He is scuba qualified, has parachuted out of perfectly good airplanes at 3 o’clock in the morning, and has summited Mt. McKinley, Alaska–the highest point in North America–six times (at the controls of a helicopter, which is the only way sensible folk climb mountains). For reasons that seemed sagacious at the time he ultimately left the Army as a Major to pursue medical school. Dr. Dabbs has for the last dozen years owned the Urgent Care Clinic of Oxford, Mississippi. He also serves as the plant physician for the sprawling Winchester ammunition plant in that same delightful little Southern town. Will is a founding partner of Advanced Tactical Ordnance LLC, a licensed 07/02 firearms manufacturer and has written for the gun press for a quarter century. He writes solely to support a shooting habit that is as insensate as it is insatiable. Will has been married to his high school sweetheart for more than thirty years and has taught his Young Married Sunday School class for more than a decade. He and his wife currently have three adult children and a most thoroughly worthless farm dog named Dog.

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  • Thomas Jones May 25, 2020, 12:56 pm

    Bin Laden grew up reading Asimov’s Foundation series. Thus he named his group The Foundation.

  • Firemanbob September 25, 2019, 9:33 pm

    Great article Dr Dabbs keep them coming.

  • John Rogers September 25, 2019, 8:33 pm

    Jeeezus, I should have known better than to read the comments on this article.

    Some folks need a new roll of tin foil, and to have their fingers broken for posting such ridiculous shit on the internet.

    To keep posting links to a “CIA” photograph, that was -never- attributed to the CIA, except by the conspiracy fanbois, is absurd, and only serves to confirm the level of dementia.

    Nice write up by the author though.

  • ENIGMA6 September 24, 2019, 10:21 pm

    You are out of your mind. I can’t say bin Laden was killed for sure by the Seals (likely was) but re had end stage renal failure and had been on dialysis for several years. The life expectancy of someone on dialysis is well under ten years, even with the best of care. To believe he is still alive is ludicrous.

  • Jimbo September 24, 2019, 2:29 pm

    They make an injection that will help you with all that……..stuff.

  • Dustin Dawson September 23, 2019, 9:10 pm

    There is no honor or valor in killing and dying for a corrupt anti-Christian system. If military men and women honored their oaths, they would rise up against the corrupt politicians and take the country back. It needs to happen.
    1. Tim Osman, aka OBL, was a CIA asset.
    2. 911 was planned and carried out by israeli mossad
    3. Americans are serving the Anti-Christ by killing Christians, under pretense of fighting “terror”

  • Shan September 23, 2019, 7:33 pm

    Loved the contrast between Disney Land and Bin Ladin, and the sniper doggy.
    Sleepy Joe was reportedly only member of Obama admin to not back the mission to kill this pos? What a slime ball.

  • Kalashnikov Dude September 23, 2019, 6:37 pm

    Conspiracy? No conspiracy? I wasn’t there. As far as Osama, body or it didn’t happen. Too big a motive for a sitting president and his administration not to be suspect. For all we know he’s sitting on an island with that Epstein character enjoying his virgins……

  • Jim September 23, 2019, 5:21 pm

    Love the picture of the K9 sniper.

  • Kivaari September 23, 2019, 2:00 pm

    It is amazing that so many people are so gullible to think that 9-11 was either an inside job or an Israeli plot. It wasn’t either.
    There are people that think a Global Hawk drone crashed into the Pentagon, despite witnesses and the recovery of every body except for an infant. Despite airplane part scattered all through the crash scene.
    That 7WTC was bombed, when it wasn’t. The towers were blown up, when they weren’t. That Israel did it, when they didn’t. That it was our military, when it wasn’t.
    Is there no shame?

  • Ti September 23, 2019, 1:20 pm

    Another home run!

    Comment section priceless as usual.

    HK416, ah, the piston sewing machine of the new century!

  • Kivaari September 23, 2019, 1:11 pm

    It is amazing how stupid some people are. These wild ass conspiracy theories are beneath contempt.

    • Nicks87 October 1, 2019, 6:14 pm

      “wild ass conspiracy theories” LOL. Sorry for not trusting liberals or the Obama administration…

      Real stupidity is believing anything the govt or mainstream media tells you.

  • BISHOP September 23, 2019, 12:36 pm

    From what I have heard (TV). There isn’t a death photo released because it was too grotesque. After he was killed each team member emptied a mag into Bin Laden’s face.

  • ~ Occams September 23, 2019, 12:30 pm

    Wow. And you people actually believe this propaganda?

    I know how the government can remove 90% of the guns in this country! Rather than a background check, have an IQ test.

    Easy peasy. 90% gun ownership reduction!

    You’re all digging your own grave, sorry to say

  • ~ Occams September 23, 2019, 11:55 am
  • Don Tros September 23, 2019, 11:48 am

    Was this a book that didn’t get published or did and no one read?
    And the many long passionate comments could be added to it.
    Unfortunately I’m not able to read a book right now so can someone sum it up for me? What’s this about? Guns? Terrorists? Conspiracy? Disney?

  • Yo Mama September 23, 2019, 11:23 am

    The Mossad did it. 100%

  • Prof. A. C. Vandiver, Jr., M.Ed. September 23, 2019, 10:45 am

    As a broadcast journalist for 40 years and university professor for 15 of those I am still not convinced. No photo or other evidence has ever been provided to the American people of bin Laden’s death. None. The White House word, something questioned without hesitation in every instance under the Trump administration, was taken without question and in the absolute absence of any evidence then or since under Obama. Sitting in a live newsroom I was reviled by all present for being a journalist and questioning news that came with only one source and no evidence – something no journalist would normally ever do. One photo is all we needed. Why were they absent? A convenient and unusual burial at sea. Why was that decision made? Would anyone deny that Osama bin Laden was far more valuable alive? His plans, his contacts, his knowledge after years of planning and organizing were infinitely valuable and could be extracted over time with no distractions if the world believed him dead. His value as a hedge against further grand scale terrorist action is another argument in favor of preserving the asset. Shooting, disposing at sea, no post mortem photo whatsoever, his extensive knowledge and strategic value, all lead to a conclusion that he is either still alive or lived much longer than we were told. I am no conspiracy theorist. I am a professor of, among other subjects, critical thinking. The test of critical thought fails throughout the story of bin Laden’s demise. Even to the epilogue of a Navy Seal who uncharacteristically came forward to be hailed as his killer – something no Seal would ever do unless ordered to. His presence in the public eye to tell the government’s story for them is something that never happens, should never happen, and couldn’t happen without government endorsement. Further, because of the value of bin Laden alive, his killing rather than capture should be a source of embarrassment to the government and military rather than something to venerate a hero. When the death was announced I immediately said “show me the proof.” A newsroom and news industry highly supportive of that administration and politic humiliated me for simply asking the questions they themselves are normally obligated to ask. The same questions they would never let rest if it were the current or any conservative administration. That double standard was never acceptable to me. Our government never providing proof bin Laden is dead was never acceptable to me either. In the test of critical thinking, in any courtroom and theoretically in every newsroom, if something defies logic it by definition generates a shadow of doubt. I am still waiting for the truth to emerge from this shadow.

    • johnnyraygun September 23, 2019, 11:35 am

      This happened many years ago, your conspiracy, theory as weak as it is, can’t hold up to time. W. Bush started two failed wars over Osama bin Laden and never killed Osama. No wars were ever needed Just one smart President and talented military to accomplish what Bush could not do in 7+ years. Time to let the conspiracy go.

      • Nicks87 October 1, 2019, 6:18 pm

        Wrong website dummy. The Hill, huffington post or politico is the one you are looking for.

    • Boz September 23, 2019, 11:42 am

      I absolutely agree. I have thought the very same since it was announced that he was supposedly killed.

    • ~ Occams September 23, 2019, 12:00 pm

      Well, at least ONE PERSON here didn’t swallow this patently transparent lie whole hog!

      https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2v7nmx/osama_bin_laden_in_blackhawk_down_prepare_for_a/

  • Zupglick September 23, 2019, 10:40 am

    Loved that last picture with the dog and the sniper rifle.

  • C.Meredith September 23, 2019, 10:40 am

    A fine, first rate article, Dr.Dabbs. I thought your style of writing was easy to read and understand. After reading the little bio. about you I know why I easily understood and agreed with your writing. You see, I grew up in the Delta, too. Matter of fact, I believe I knew your father, if he is who I’m thinking he is. The man I knew worked at a bank, was a very fine gentleman and had my total respect. Thinking back, I can’t think of anybody who didn’t have high regard for him. Anyway, I enjoyed your article and am glad to see somebody from the flat NW Ms area did well without hitting it big in Tunica. Well done, sir.

  • ~ Occams September 23, 2019, 10:32 am

    See? This is exactly WHY you’re going to lose your 2nd; You believe and promote a fairy tales, never ask question, believe whatever STORY proven liars tell you, shouting, instead, like good little sheep ‘conspiracy theory!’ like you’ve been taught to do when you get scared

    Now, I can’t compete with a great tale, so I just go on facts and evidence, eye-witness testimony….And ALL of this is well-documented and can easily be found, but hey….

    YOU ALL STILL THINK PADDOCK DID LAS VEGAS AND THE 7.62 BELT-FED WEAPON YOU HEARD REALLY WAS A 5.56 BUMPSTOCK (holy crap! And you call yourselves ‘shooters’!???)

    1. Osama and his family were great friends of the Bush family, and IN FACT, some of the family was in Texas, visiting. They were one of FEW jets ‘released’ to fly out after US airspace had been shut down.

    2. The other? An El Al Israeli jet with, it was claimed, Mossad members.

    3. Notice the FBI ‘wanted list’? Does it mention 9/11? No. Because there wasn’t a single shred of evidence ever found connecting him.

    4. Osama was a CIA asset named Tim Ossman. FACT

    5. Osama was quite ill with Marfans Syndrome, and received dialysis AT AT US HOSPITAL in Dubai – and several nurses and doctors noted him – AND THE CIA OFFICER WHO VISITED HIM. FACT

    6. 5 Israeli Mossad agents (3 confirmed agents) – FACT – the ‘Dancing Israelis’ arrested by police (with explosives residue in the back of their van – FACT – with the name on the side Urban Moving Systems, a suspected Israeli spy op’ – FACT – who were seen (police called by woman aas she watched them), in place, celebrating and filming THE FIRST JET STRIKE – FACT.

    Arrested and held by the FBI, ALL OF THEM failed Lie Detectors, ALL had different stories – FACT – and ALL were quietly released after 30 days and quickly sent home by Dual Passport Holder Michael Chertoff – FACT.

    Upon return, they showed up on a Talk Show, and one made the statement ‘WE WERE THERE TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT” (FACT)

    Now. I know I’m an idiot who’s a ‘conspiracy nutter’ – but can one of you geniuses explain to me how 5 Israelis – most MOSSAD AGENTS – KNEW TO BE IN PLACE AND FILMING 9/11 IF BIN LADEN/al QAEDA ‘DID IT’?

    7. Osama died in ’02 FROM Marfans. Remeber the Spec Forces team on 60 Minutes claiming they’d located him in the hills, talking on the radio?

    NOW WHY COULD THEY NOT GET THE OKAY TO GO AFTER HIM, THEN? Their request went ALL THE WAY into the White House. Why, if everyone was looking for him, could they not get the okay? FACT, FACT, and FACT.

    8. It’s NOW become obvious – even to braindead Amerikkans – that 9/11 was a controlled demolition (Europeans knew Israel and the US did 9/11 right away.

    Here’s ex-Italian PRESIDENT explaining 9/11:

    “[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe … now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”

    ANY OF YOU HEROES HERE KNOW ABOUT THE USS LIBERTY? That was FACT done by Israel – and they TRIED to blame it on Arabs, unsuccessfully. 9/11 WAS successful.

    The list of FACTS goes on and on. NOBODY ‘got bin Laden’. He was a boogieman for a non-existent ‘Global War On Terror (which I finally got Clay Martin to stop PROMOTING THIS LIE).

    Want to see FOR YOURSELVES what a fraud this is? The ‘we got Osama’ crap? Here’s his ‘death photo’.

    IT WAS A FRAME-GRAB FROM BLACKHAWK DOWN, flipped, and bin Laden’s face pasted in! Take a look, you idiot suckers, and see the lie you fell for!

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2v7nmx/osama_bin_laden_in_blackhawk_down_prepare_for_a/

    THERE YA’ GO. ONE PHOTO EXPOSES THE WHOLE LIE.

    (Print this, G/A. I dare you!) It’s time Americans wake up to the truth and stop believing lies – BECAUSE 9/11 is one of the main reasons the 2nd is threatened!

    • Sam I Am September 23, 2019, 10:51 am

      I dunno what pipe you have been nursing from, but you ought to write a book with that kind of imagination. By the way, where is Elvis? Maybe you can explain what happened to Jimmy Hoffa, too. I don’t even want to get you started on Kennedy…

    • Yo Mama September 23, 2019, 11:35 am

      You are correct about everything except that is not a CIA photo.

    • Chad September 23, 2019, 11:38 pm

      Pack up your little keyboard and go to holly weird with this bullshit you’ll fit right in with the dipshits!

      • ~ Occams October 11, 2019, 10:57 am

        One day, Chad, you’ll finally get it – and know what the rest of the world knows.

  • C.Meredith September 23, 2019, 10:17 am

    It occurs to me that there are thousands of experts who all seem to have the answers to whatever problem you can think of. Many of these experts are 100% sure they know more then the next expert when it comes to 9/11. What I think is sad is about 3000 humans with family’s and friends died that day along with a hand full of creatures I’m not sure how to discribe, at least not in polite company. Those who died were murdered, and I would be willing to wager not one person reading this article can tell you the name of any of them, unless they happened to be family or friend. That makes me sad. I’m not any better. I can’t call a single name, either. Does it matter? It should bother us, I think. But I guess that is why we build memorials and statues and such things. They help us remember so we can keep the same tragic thing from happening again. Winston Churchill and many others said “Those who do not remember and learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.”
    On the other hand, it seems there are many people today who believe if you cover a painting, take down a statue, knock down a memorial or just rewrite the history books the way you think history should have been, well that is the best way to prepare our kids to take charge and control their destiny. Screw the old folks, to hell with the hero’s of yesterday, they have nothing to do with our future. Oh yea, and free everything, too. Those old guys have been fighting for freedom since some big war way back when, so it is time for everything to be free, right!

  • Chuck Matson September 23, 2019, 10:03 am

    Great article, thanks.

    • ~ Occams September 23, 2019, 11:52 am

      Now if only it were true.

  • Douglas Bat September 23, 2019, 9:08 am

    Can’t believe we can’t find one picture of him sleeping forever/

  • mikeb September 23, 2019, 9:02 am

    A couple comments deserve to have the Twilight Zone theme playing in the background.

  • Larry Ciejka September 23, 2019, 8:54 am

    I looked up the Univ. of Alaska paper refered to. Your conspiracy theory is utter B.S. You are an uneducated nitwit. The profesional engineers from the our firm called your BS on evry turn. We also had some of our staff die in the attack.
    Why is there a need by some people to always come up with some conspiracy?

  • Green tip September 23, 2019, 8:23 am

    Wow. JUST…wow. To actually think, that this article by Dr. Dabbs 18 YEARS after the horrendous attack, the WORST attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor…and the first 2 comments are led by CONSPIRACY theorists. THAT, ladies & gentlemen…is exactly what our ‘fine’ American “educational” institutions have become: breeding grounds for moronic and anti-American thought and ideas. Well, THIS Patriotic American STILL believes in the greatness of our country; the PRINCIPLES on which it was founded and THOSE WHO FIND IT A BLESSING AND HONOR TO CALL HOME. “If you don’t like it, LEAVE!” See if you can find a ‘better’ place in this world of ours that would put up with your crap and treat you with dignity and fairness. Great article Dr. Dabbs…

    • Yo Mama September 23, 2019, 11:38 am

      I thought like you, until i looked at the actual evidence.

  • Jerry September 23, 2019, 7:28 am

    Sorry, conspiracy dudes. Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Get over it. Islamists are the cause of the vast majority of the world\’s problems right now. Good riddance to bin Laden.

    • Phil September 23, 2019, 9:46 am

      Let’s remember the 9-11 Commission report that found that 90% of the 9-11 Hijackers were Saudi Nationals…NONE from Iraq….Jeb Bush gov of Floridah…followed a no regulation policy which let these Saudi’s get a Florida Drivers license without ID…so they could take lessons in Florida and buy a plane ticket with a phony name…so NSA et al were unable to know what they were doing….Plus they found wealthy Saudi men paid all their expenses….There is a class action suit against the Saudi Govt by 9-11 families…..YET…Trump took a gold necklace from these white robbed Nazi’s soon after he took office and now we are sending US troop to protect their wealth in Oil.

  • Chris September 23, 2019, 6:58 am

    And youl think Osama Bin Laden was the actual architect for 9/11? More like Rogue entities in the US military planning US war games for the morning of 9/11 to thwart the military’s response on the morning of 9/11 to the 9/11 attacks that were most likely executed by the same Rogue entities within the military. I’m like operation Northwoods in 1962 drawn up by The Joint Chiefs of Staff which prepared a document that circulated for the planning phases a false flag attacks to make it look like Cuba attacked the United States to allow the United States to then attack Cuba. Go look up that document. 911 was no different. Osama Bin Laden was not the architect of 911 and in fact it was said that he died in 2001 from kidney failure in France. Osama Bin Laden was a CIA asset. It people fell for the stupid story that Osama Bin Laden actually committed the terror attacks of 9/11 even though officially on the FBI’s website under Osama Bin Laden when he was alive there was no listing of him wanted for the 9/11 attacks. It did list other things he was wanted for but the 9/11 attacks were not one of them because he didn’t do them. That was brought to you by Rogue scumbag entities of the elite players of the world who basically want to dominate certain sections of a globe and needing to do so needed in attack as large as 9/11 to convince the American people for what the United States government has been up to since then globally. Go look up 911 war games and you will see exactly what I’m talkin about. You can also look up the collapse of building 7 which clearly fell at freefall speed and building 7 was not hit by any airplane. University of Alaska just came out with a $300,000 report completely rebuking the report from NIST stating that the collapse of building 7 was NOT due to a global failure of the structure simultaneously due to fire thermal expansion which is another way of saying we can’t explain the collapse so what we’re going to do is give you a bullshit story and make you think that that bulshit story is true because we are the official NIST. The University of Alaska completely eviscerates the official position of NIST proving that fires could have absolutely not have caused the collapse. Or you can go look up the Flight crash site of Flight 93 in Pennsylvania in Shanksville and see that there is actually zero debris of any plane hitting anywhere. 9/11 story is so full of holes it’s like Swiss cheese. The official story from the US government is a complete 100% conspiracy theory not fact

    • Kivaari September 23, 2019, 1:37 pm

      7WTC collapsed because it was hit by a falling tower. It ripped a hole half the height of the building in the side. There were two primary fires. First the fuel burned and took about 50% of the temper from the steel. Then the furnishings burned at a higher temperature and took another 40% of the temper. There were no fire fighting efforts made on 7WTC as they knew it was coming down from the start. It fell at the speed of gravity.

  • Yo Mama September 23, 2019, 6:04 am

    Bin laden didn’t do 911. Mossad did 911. Anyone who believes otherwise is a tool.

    • Right September 23, 2019, 6:53 am

      Your are correct, bin laden didn’t “do 9-11” he was a coward who convinced other cowards to “do 9-11” for him in the name of the violent, despicable religious cult we call Islam. I will never submit!!

    • Kivaari September 23, 2019, 1:39 pm

      Israel was not responsible for 9-11.

      • Yo Mama September 23, 2019, 7:14 pm

        Mossad. Not the whole country.

    • Scooter Lippy September 25, 2019, 11:06 pm

      “Believe MY version of events not the official report or you are a tool.” Very compelling argument.

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