What I Love & Hate About the SIG Sauer P365

The SIG P365 is 10+1 in a micro-compact package.

SIG Sauer’s new P365 has garnered a lot of attention, and rightfully so. Out of the box, it looks like every other slim 9mm out there. The difference is that both of its magazines hold 10 rounds each. If you load a round into the chamber and carry a backup magazine, you have 21 rounds of 9mm available.

Before the P365 came onto the scene, I was trying to create a comparison matrix to help choose which slim 9mm to carry. Now that the P365 has appeared, my chart is a mess. I do not have to choose the best gun with just six or seven rounds; the best gun may have 10 plus one. To be clear, the P365 is a great gun, but it is not perfect. With that, here are some of the things I really like and one thing that bugs me about the gun.

1. Love: Simple

The P365 is a simple to use and sleekly designed.

When it comes to defensive handguns, simple is not just good; simple is great. I just want to be able to draw the gun and squeeze the trigger in order to fire. I do not want a bunch of extra controls or features to fuss with. I want just the basics, please. Plus, I like a gun to have a clean look. SIG Sauer gets the P365 just right with its simple design and double-action-only functionality. Sure, there’s the standard exercise of loading a magazine and chambering a round, but that’s it.

Simplicity is also a function of reliability, and the P365 has SIG Sauer’s usual reliability. On its first outing, I loaded up the magazines with every form of 9mm ammunition I could find in the 9mm bin from my workshop. The 10-round magazine was loaded with everything from target loads to self-defense loads in all the typical bullet weights. The P365 fed, fired and ejected all of them every time.

2. Love: Skinny

The P365 is 1-inch wide.

Concealed carry guns are nothing if they are not skinny. The rules of physics being what they are, the thicker your gun is, the more awkward and potentially uncomfortable it is to carry. That is why 1911s in any size have always been great concealed carry guns, but that’s a story for another day.

At 1-inch wide, SIG’s P365 is a skinny gun, but it is not so skinny in the stocks that it is difficult to grasp and fire well. The fact that it also hides inside the waistband with ease makes it a comfortable gun. Back in the day, in order to carry 10 rounds in a magazine, you had to have a fairly chunky gun. It’s a new day.

3. Love: Great Sights

The XRAY3 Day/Night sights are top-notch.

Here is the feature many have been waiting for: high-quality night sights on a defensive carry gun. Just as important is that they work during the daytime.  And they do, providing a very good, very familiar three-dot pattern that the eyes pick up easily.

SIG calls them XRAY3 Day/Night Sights. These sights do their job so well that you have to actively think about them in order to realize it. In low- or no-light conditions, it is immediately evident where the sights are on the gun. It is also obvious which is the front sight because it glows a brighter green than the rear sights.

4. Hate: Short Stocks

My pinky hangs off, which is not ideal.

Hate is too strong a word here, and I do realize that a carry gun needs to be somewhat short in order to conceal well, but when I grasp the P365, my pinky finger halfway hangs off the shorter magazine. The other included magazine has an extension which is a perfect fit, but I prefer the shorter one for carry. So, there is a bit of a trade-off here, of course.

When shooting the P365, I do not find the length of the stocks to be an issue. I probably like all the other features so much that I just accept this shortcoming.

5. Love: Purchase

In firearms parlance, “purchase” is a word used to describe the quality of grip you can get on a gun. It is a combination of the gun’s size and shape and how it fits given the dimensions of your hand. It is also a subjective matter. As you know, a gun that fits one person well may be a poor fit for another.

As for me, I can get an excellent purchase on the P365. This not only is a function of the gun’s excellent design, grip angle, dimensions and so forth, but it is also a result of the stock’s texture. SIG got it just right with this gun. Grasping the P365 results in my hand having really good friction. No sliding or extra maneuvering is needed to improve the purchase; you just get it when you grasp it.

With a good purchase, the spacing and dimensions are just right, and the trigger finger should rest on the side of the slide rather than on the trigger. When firing the gun, there is a short snap up, and then you are quickly back on target. When changing magazines, there is a slight change in grip to use your thumb on the magazine release, but it is an operation that quickly becomes second-nature. When you grasp the top of the slide to release it and scoop up the top round in a fresh magazine, the maneuver feels great, and there is just enough slide area to make it a sure and simple process.

Conclusion

Other things I really like about the SIG Sauer P365 are its retail price of $599.99 and the fact that you can fire +P ammo through it. There is an optional 12-round magazine you can carry as a backup. There is nothing else that I do not like.

Have you fired the P365? What is your experience? What do you love, and what do you hate?

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About the Author: Mark Kakkuri is a nationally published freelance writer who covers guns and gear, 2nd Amendment issues and the outdoors. His writing and photography have appeared in many firearms-related publications, including the USCCA’s Concealed Carry Magazine. You can follow him on Twitter @markkakkuri.

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  • scott beverly September 21, 2018, 7:31 am

    I picked up my P365 in July after reading al the stories about how Sig dropped the ball on the first generations guns and made corrections. What can I say, the little gun works the way it’s suppose to for me. M wife loves the little gun an shoots it well. I let my Glock loving buddy shoot it this past week and he also loved it, especially the trigger. Zero malfunctions thus far. Folks tend to forget about the other big companies that have recalled their first production guns and had to rush for fixes. Springfield comes to mind when the XDS’s first hit the market. Now, I’m a big Springfield fan also and my daily carry is a XDS in 45 acp. As soon as I get more range time I will be changing over to the P365. Not a trust issue with the P365 quality, but I will make sure I am more in tune with the P365 before I carry it.

  • Charlie August 1, 2018, 3:14 pm

    You can’t say you dislike the short stock, then say the extended magazine makes the fit perfect, then say you prefer the perceived fault . Major contradiction.

  • Tom July 20, 2018, 9:43 am

    I want to like this gun. I just don’t trust my life to it. Maybe in the next year or two, but there are plenty of other viable options out there that are absolutely reliable.

    • Billy Walker August 27, 2018, 8:06 pm

      I’m thinking of buying one and would love to hear you expand on this comment… “not sure I trust my life to it”

  • JW July 18, 2018, 3:44 pm

    I\’ve been a revolver guy all my life. My first service weapon was a J frame 36! And though I toyed with semi autos, LCP, Glock 42, 43, M&P Shield…etc, wanting something small and easy to carry, I was still a revolver guy. But an incident a couple of years back left me wanting an IWB weapon with more than 5 rounds. But it had to be small, as with age I developed \”dunlaps disease\”. After a Glock Armorer, and \”dyed in the wool\” Glock guy raved about the P365, I took a chance. It has only been out of my holster long enough to put about 500 rounds down range, everything from the cheapest, dirtiest bargain table stuff to Critical Duty – not one hiccup! This is a phenomenal weapon, accurate, well thought out and a joy to shoot! I am now a Sig fan…too bad they don\’t make a revolver!

  • Wayne Smith July 13, 2018, 5:15 pm

    I find you critics have little to no experience with all the good CCW offerings available now , nor do you own or have even fired the Sig P 365 .I happen to own a collection of firearms and appreciate each one , and it’s manufacturer for what it is . I have fired and spent time with most every capable CCW avaiable as well . However , in my humble opinion , nothing compares to the Sig P 365 , Period !
    Yes , I am a Sig fan , after handling countless firearms , have found I appreciate most all Sig firearms over most others . That is not to discredit my appreciation for other great firearms such as the CZ 75’s , H&K USP’s , John Browning anythings (Hi-Powers) , S&W M&P’s , Walther’s ,Kimber’s , Glock’s and more . I appreciate the less popular such as Star BM , Sar 9’s , Macarovs , Takarovs , and any well made and dependable offerings .
    By the way , for those of you that continue to compare and refer to your Sig P 250 , P 290 and P 320 as the better hammer fired action as to the P 365 striker fired action , it is my understanding that all those are striker fired . The P 365 just has a lighter trigger pull with a quick reset liking to a newer Sig SA/DA trigger .
    I stand behind my opinion that the P 365 does not suffer the numerous faults described and therefore unreliable . I feel it to be the new standard , not to mention the most complete pistol and best CCW available for size , round capacity , and Sig dependabality at this time .
    The hammer fired Sig’s have always been my favorites (ie P 220,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,232,238,938, etc) especially the newer ones with the quick reset trigers . FYI for a fair and inexspensive fee you can send your earlier ones to Sig for the QRT upgrades .

  • Mike July 13, 2018, 8:38 am

    I have been a 1911, 45 caliber fan since the early sixties. Today’s modern 9 mm ammunition has definitely changed my opinion of 9 mm. I have been a sig fan since carrying the P220 on duty for many years. Not a malfunction of any kind in the entire department forever. But now the P365 has caught my attention and I acquired one a couple of months ago. Sig kno9 this one out of the park. Bitch you about the grip all you want. Your hand absolutely locks on to it and doesn’t let go. Show your little pinkie may either hang low or completely off of the grip. I fail to see the downside.

    I have carried and instructed in law enforcement for many years. This doesn’t make me the world’s foremost authority but it does give me good experience at defensive shooting and concealed carry. I don’t know of any gun that fits that bill better then the Sig Sauer P365.

  • DBC July 6, 2018, 10:10 pm

    6’3” 285, appendix carry 365 twelve round mag, fits hands, concealing no problem, installed a machined striker just because, have had zero problems before or after, primer smear very minor, not unheard of on small guns and short slides!
    Seriously doubt authors hands larger than mine, and if you’re gripping with the pinky finger that’s poor technique on any handgun!

    • Leighton Cavendish July 13, 2018, 9:03 am

      Not everyone has gorilla-size hands like you…as average people are only 5’8”-5’10” believe it or not…with women even shorter…
      most of us can actually get all 4 fingers on the grip of a regular-size handgun.LOL

  • Marshall Boyd July 6, 2018, 7:26 pm

    Mike said the newer guns come with the 12 rd. mag. I just bought one made in June with the new gray box and it did not come with the 12 round mag. I have not fired it but love the concept . I think Sig should go to a steel striker instead of the MIM version to cure the striker breakage problem . I have several other Sigs and love them. I have been a Glock fan from the beginning and carried a G43 for 2 years and have been carrying a Sig 938 till the 365 came out. I had to wait till after the recall . I have never had a problem with any of the guns mentioned. Sig, please fix the striker problem .

  • Thomas Breithaupt July 6, 2018, 4:28 pm

    SIG365 = “Watchlist Status”. This gun needs @12 months to clean out the bugs. This is not to say it’s a ‘bad’ design but one that needs an “Engineering cleanup”. This is very common in software design and even some hardware such as first generation vehicles with abrupt new model changes.

    Once stable it is still a tough sell for the price. The last five years has given us some very respectable products from Glock, Smith, and even the inexpensive Taurus PT111G family. Note that all these units had some bugs in the first year offerings but have all become trusted products. SIG will clean things up but needs some time.

    • RJ July 8, 2018, 11:34 am

      Taurus trigger is no contest for SIGs. Also, the 365 is similar size to the 43, but ammo capacity of the 26. That\’s a game changer. None of the others really compete in specs. Some preferences, maybe. That\’s it.

  • Paul July 6, 2018, 1:26 pm

    I’m a big Sig fan but I have to see the 365 up close and handle it a bit to see why I would give up my 320 sub-compact for it. The 320 is pretty small, it just looks to have a little fatter grip frame. But I like that because I have big hands. The 320 holds 12+1 all the time and can go 15+1 using the compact mags. The price is pretty much the same, both have night sights. The 365 might be better for my wife than me. Wait and see I guess.

  • Thom Williamson July 6, 2018, 1:13 pm

    Frankly I’m disappointed in the Sig product development. After the fiasco of the Sig P320 “drop” fire…and the subsequent “voluntary” return to the factory, one would have thought Sig would have sent the Sig P365 out the door with zero “issues”. The “primer” drag/mark is something I have never seen/experienced with my personal guns or military…I won’t buy one until that is fixed. Also the guy shooting nearly 1000 rounds through a P365 experienced a total “dead trigger” in the final magazine…uh, explain that one! He’s sending it back to Sig…from whence it came. One option I would like is a gun without the ubiquitous rail…for a “pocket size deep carry” gun, I find the rails useless, especially the “Sig-only” rails. Full disclosure…I began carrying a Sig P220 20 years ago, my bedside gun is a P228 with Surefire light, I now carry a Sig P320C & P320SC 9mm and I’ve never experienced a failure to feed/fire/eject of any kind in any of the center fire Sig guns. Call me a “fan-boy” if you like, but I’ve had nothing but success with the center fire Sig guns I’ve owned.

  • Charlie Kay July 6, 2018, 1:08 pm

    I can relate to the authors “hate” of the stock/grip length. BTW he also says “Hate is too strong a word here,”. Again I get and relate to the statement.
    I have several compact and sub compact pistols. Khar CW 45, Shield 9mm and Taurus 709 Slim. In my ham sized grip only the Khar gives me enough grip for all four fingers, without the use of a base extension. I’m able to shoot all three just fine without the extensions. So the the real issue is operator comfort. For me I’m less comfortable carrying concealed with the extended mags in the grip. Although you can bet that my spare mag(s) will be the ones with the extension.
    To me my confidence in my shooting skills (along with the fervent hope that they may never need to be called upon) with the standard mag vs. my concern of printing or exposing my pistol due to the extensions shape and predilection to make itself apparent, in my mind if nowhere else, determine my decision on how I carry.

  • Frank July 6, 2018, 11:29 am

    I recently bought the Kimber Micro 9 as I was looking for a smaller carry. It is a very nice looking gun but my accuracy with it was not what I was wanting. I had been waiting for the P365 to come out but got impatient and bought the Kimber. Then not too long ago a buddy of mine came over to shoot and brought over his P365 and I got to shoot it. It was at that moment I decided I would be purchasing one as well. I was seeing the accuracy I had hoped for with my Kimber.
    I just recently received my P365 and I love it.

  • Robert haines July 6, 2018, 10:05 am

    Shot the pistol, wonderful to shoot. Hard to find one to buy. To the person shooting Remington ammo, all Remington is very filthy.

  • Eric July 6, 2018, 9:36 am

    Great gun .in 380 but I am waiting for it in 9mm?

    • Mad Dog July 6, 2018, 10:33 am

      What are you talking about? It IS 9mm…

  • Wil Ferch July 6, 2018, 9:15 am

    The “negative” for the gun being too “Short” ( top-to-bottom) is a head scratcher. There are both normal-baseplate mags available as well an extended baseplate version/12 rd version. Choose. On the contrary, the short height makes this now a viable gun for comparison to the competition….as gun “height” is what makes a gun “print” when carrying concealed. More so than “length”. This is where the Shield falls short being 4.6″ tall. The Kahr CM9 (4 inches) Glock 43 (4.3″ ) and now this Sig (4.3″) makes the package work. Short height is not a negative. Choose the baseplate/mag you wish that answers either the concealability question or pinky-finger question.

  • Mike P July 6, 2018, 8:58 am

    Mark: You reference it in your footnotes, but complain about the grip length, showing the std, flush 10 rounder In your pictures. Sig has made 12 round mags for P365 now for nearly 6 months. They do come with newer 365’s and have a nice pinky extension and add ~1/2” to the grip. I find it a great setup as I have large hangs as well. I have found myself going for my P365 more often than my G43 the past month I’ve owned it. Out of the box, I think it’s a better gun than my ZEV43 at nearly 1/3 the price. At 13 total rounds, it’s Browning High Power/near G19 capacity, in a micro carry gun. I’m not a Sig fan boy, but what’s not to like. In my view, it is the best carry gun performance/value as of July 2018.

  • Ronald L Crafton July 6, 2018, 8:52 am

    The issue for me with IWB carry was the rough texture grating my side. This issue was corrected with a set of Talon stick on grips. I have had zero other issues with this pistol and love it, love it, love it.

  • Infidel762X51 July 6, 2018, 8:34 am

    Thanks but I will stick with my P250 and P290. Hammer fired and no issues.

    • Wayne July 13, 2018, 7:19 pm

      Are you not aware that both the P250 and P320 , are striker fired ?

      • Jon B July 27, 2018, 10:54 am

        Not sure what gun you’re referring to Wayne but the P250 is a hammer fired gun with a very long revolver like trigger pull.

  • Jack DS July 6, 2018, 7:51 am

    The Sig P365 has a few issues that Sig needs to fix. The gun itself is a great product. One of the issues is primer printing – the firing pin drags across the primer. There have been several reports of the firing ping breaking and the trigger spring breaking. Sig will of course fix these but that makes the gun unreliable. Until Sig fixes these I will continue to carry my G43. The P365 is on my list to buy but once Sig fixes these issues,

    • Ken P July 6, 2018, 11:15 am

      I’ve read of this so-called issue and, after examining my spent brass, can find no trace of firing pin drag. Had mine for about six months and couldn’t be happier. My G43 was great but the 365 blows it away.

  • Jon July 6, 2018, 7:40 am

    Over 1000 rounds of all kinds through since I bought mine several months ago. Zero failures to fire, eject, or otherwise function. I carry this in the Sig IWB holster. It is, in a word, awesome. I’ve read a lot of reviews and comments. I’m going to stand by my own experience. Sig did a great job with this pistol. Reliable, accurate, rugged.

  • John madsen July 6, 2018, 7:26 am

    The author doesn’t like the short length of the grip because his pinky finger falls off, but doesn’t like the extended mag because of “concealed carry.” C’mon. SIG gave you both options-short ot long-and you’re not happy with either?

  • Stephen Stuckert July 6, 2018, 6:49 am

    Have fired 500 rounds utilizing four different loads without a hiccup. My little finger hangs off the short magazine, as well, but when shooting, it’s a non issue as far as accuracy is concerned. The magazine release is not perfect, as it does require a grip adjustment, but everything else works to perfection. Amazing pistol!

  • Randy Baldauf July 6, 2018, 5:47 am

    My question is does the P320 mag fit and function in the P365?

    • Scott July 6, 2018, 6:58 am

      No. P320 Mags are not compatible with the P365

    • Ken July 6, 2018, 11:09 am

      You’re being sarcastic, right?

  • Mark July 3, 2018, 4:27 am

    The machining on the rear portion of the slide looks sloppy. Come on Sig. Judging by their rolling corrections to the striker and trigger spring design, Sig rushed this to production without doing due dilligence. It’s a great idea for increased capacity though. I’ll be interested to see how the other players respond, especially Walther.

  • ToddC July 2, 2018, 10:52 pm

    I have two of them (one for my wife). This is the pistol to sell your Glock 26 for. I love the trigger in addition to the characteristics you mentioned. I don’t love the slide catch. I have a hard time getting a two handed grip that doesn’t cause the slide to close after the last round. My wife has RA and she can actually rack the slide on the P365.

  • Glendon Lowder July 2, 2018, 9:02 pm

    Completely agree on all accounts.
    I did have two failures to eject on the first 150 rds. I took it home and cleaned it and will test again. My guess is that it was the preservative applied to the gun that caused the failures. Used Remington 115 grain UMC for initial test.

  • Justin Morgan July 2, 2018, 4:05 pm

    Trigger safety and standard rail would be nice changes.

    • Scotty Gunn July 7, 2018, 2:41 pm

      This is a sub compact carry gun . You want a full size rail on it?

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