Full Conceal Goes P320 with New Custom Deep-Concealment SIGs

Do you think you could go full-conceal with this ultra-compact P320? (Photo: Full Conceal)

Full Conceal, a custom concealed-carry pistol shop, is now building specialty SIG P320 ultra-compact kits for deep concealment. These guns are built around the P320 subcompact with an aggressive grip chop and modified magazines.

Dubbed the M1-P320, the pistol is barely larger than a dollar bill at 6.3 inches long and just 3.6 inches tall. While the grip is shortened to a single-finger’s length, the modified P320 has an impressive 9+1 capacity. With a spare magazine installed in the frame-mounted mag holster, the pistol carries 19 rounds in a tiny package.

These modified P320 magazines still hold nine rounds of 9mm Luger. (Photo: Full Conceal)

The company did more than just shorten the grip and magazines. The mag holster doubles as a trigger guard safety. With a loaded magazine inserted in the mag carrier, the top cartridge partially blocks the front of the trigger.

In this way the Full Conceal P320 can be carried in a pocket without a holster. The mag carrier can also be adjusted to put a gap between the top round and the trigger face for users who don’t want to eject the spare magazine in order to fire the pistol.

Despite the extremely short grip the pistols remain shootable. Full Conceal has a handful of video demonstrations of the M1-P320 on the company website. It may take some practice to get good with the modified pistols but that’s universal when it comes to shooting small handguns.

The magazines are made from standard P320 mags with shortened bodies and custom floor plates. The custom parts feature 7075 alloy aluminum and 303 stainless steel construction. None of the changes prevent using standard P320 magazines, which can be used to provide a makeshift extended grip.

The mag carrier is adjust to add or remove a finger gap. (Photo: Full Conceal)

And because it’s based on the SIG P320, the fire control unit can be swapped into midsize and full-size pistols in a pinch. The P320 is a completely modular design that can be converted to different types and caliber pistols.

Full Conceal is taking orders for complete pistols as well as conversion kits for subcompact P320 owners. Complete pistols run $899 and conversion kits $349. The pistols come with all the modifications and two 9-round magazines.

The conversion kits are not firearms and do not require an FFL for transfers. The conversion kit includes the modified frame, the mag carrier and two mags. Unlike SIG’s X-Change kits the M1-320 conversion kit does not include a slide assembly.

See Also: Foldable Glock 19 Pocket Pistol by Full Conceal

Full Conceal is currently shipping M1-P320 pistols and kits. The company is working on a similarly-modified Glock pistol, their M1-G19. The modified Glock 19 pistols are available for pre-order for $899 and Full Conceal expects to ship this month.

About the author: Max Slowik is a writer with over a dozen years of experience and is a lifelong shooter. He has unwavering support for the Second Amendment and the human right to self-defense. His ambition is to follow Thomas Paine, as a journalist by profession and a propagandist by inclination.

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  • LUCAS SALTZMAN June 26, 2018, 4:24 pm

    Have at it guys! I’d rather not have to disconnect a magazine in order to remove a bullshit trigger guard.

  • Bill Moreland July 27, 2017, 7:42 pm

    I was skeptic about this pistol. I don’t usually listen to negative comments, normally make my own judgement. Good thing I did- I just left Range Day at Triggrcon the M1-P320 from Full Conceal was easy to shoot and better than any other pistol I own. Full Conceal makes Glocks and Sigs from boring to innovative and exciting.

    Their M3- Foldable Glock is so cool. I placed my name on the list for pre-sale! Again- Innovate and exciting.

  • TC Daniels July 27, 2017, 2:42 pm

    When the read the article I had no opinion or comment since I never shot this pistol. Luckily I showed up at TriggrCon and met Full Conceal, shot the M1 Sig, and saw their prototype M3 Foldable Glock 19.

    First- anyone who makes a comment without shooting this pistol have NO CLUE what they are talking about.

    M1- Sig you can shoot with one hand or two. Accurate, easy to shoot and no assembly. You can shoot with the mag in mag holder. It’s amazing!

    M3- Foldable Glock 19- 23 rounds. Enough said!

    I am so glad I had the chance to meet these guys abs shoot the pistol. Innovation!

  • Brent Irish July 27, 2017, 11:48 am

    I love this pistol! I don’t think the haters really get it.

  • Bob Greenly July 16, 2017, 9:24 pm

    I find it funny and annoying how anyone can write a review without holding the pistol, shooing the pistol, and understanding why Full Conceal is building this pistol. Although I wasn’t sure when met the owners at Gun Gargage.

    They asked me to shoot it. At first, didn’t think it was safe- IT WAS! No assembly, MY FINGERS FIT WITH THE MAGAZINE IN THE HOLDER!! NO ASSEMBLY!
    They asked me to hold it in my hand and my aim was the same with a larger grip.
    They took a Sig and made it better, more rounds, smaller imprint, easier to carry.
    If you’re in Vegas, they give tours of their manufacturing plant and will pay for you to shoot the gun. 9 out of 10 buy when they get the chance to shoot it.
    Hold your comments until you have a chance to actually shoot it! This is now my everyday carry pistol.

  • FirstStateMark July 14, 2017, 3:41 pm

    This just took ridiculous to a new level. Hard to believe SIG lowered themselves to this level of idiocy in designing a handgun.

    • T.K. July 14, 2017, 8:44 pm

      Sig didn’t make this, it’s an after market company.

    • Jim Russlez July 14, 2017, 9:57 pm

      “Full Conceal, a custom concealed-carry pistol shop, is now building specialty SIG P320 ultra-compact kits”
      Full Concealment is making the kits. Not SIG.

  • charles July 14, 2017, 3:29 pm

    Fail to see the necessity……Just purchase a REAL CC weapon, Sig P938, Glock 43, Ruger etc etc etc
    Cant fix stupid.

    • Bill November 12, 2017, 9:12 am

      Clearly you lack the same vision others have.

  • Dean July 14, 2017, 3:24 pm

    Completely unnecessary, I can see it as a concept to spawn innovation but practicality? Certainly not……..would not be my choice, there are already too many others that are stock unmodified guns that can do the same or better.

  • David Booth July 14, 2017, 2:18 pm

    Avid gun enthusiasts will not be ready for this innovation! However I purchased this pistol two months ago. Showed my friends and we all went shooting. We ALL love the Full Conceal M1. It is DUMB for people who make comments without ever shooting the pistol. It is safe, no assembly, LOVE the weight on the front (helps with recoil). I thought shooting using two fingers would be difficult but we use our hand more than we thought- not fingers. Whoever says bad things about this pistol has never shot this pistol or had this in their hand.

  • Brian McKinny July 14, 2017, 1:52 pm

    This has got to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen, hands down. Sorry, but there are just so many better options for deep carry than mutilating a perfectly good P320 Sub-Compact to create this nonsense. For the cost of this monstrosity, you can buy a Ruger LC9SPro, or any number of sub-compact 9mm or .380 pistols that have reputations for reliability, light weight, and low cost. This is a solution in search of a problem.

    • David Booth July 14, 2017, 2:20 pm

      Brian, you have no clue what you’re talking about. Watch the videos on their website. 18 rounds of 9mm ready to shoot. Imprint of a cell phone and I can carry detective style. I bought this pistol and LOVE it!

  • Edgar July 14, 2017, 1:47 pm

    Imagine yourself….being attacked by someone (or worse by two or more attackers). Your trying to protect yourself and you have to draw and fire this weapon….CAN YOU DO IT ? You should be able to run, jump, squat, roll and even fall down and still be able to draw your firearm and bring it to bear on the attacker….and you need to be able to do all of this INSTICTIVELY…without thought. You might think you can do it on the range or at your leisure in your home…but in a real world situation, getting that out of your pocket and holding on to it with ONE FINGER ? Really…? ? Now think again if the attacker strikes your new one finger pistol or if he gets a hold on it……How is that one finger grip feeling now ? You should be able to reach and get a good solid grip on your firearm with one hand, draw it and use it with one hand while your other hand is wrestling or defending from your attackers. Self defense is SERIOUS business and if it ever happens….it ugly business. For you and those around you, are you willing to sacrifice your life or others to a new wiz-bang novelty. This is a novelty…nothing more and it should be relegated to the Movies or to Video Games. I cannot imagine any scenario where this \”deep concealed one finger gun\” would be better than a good compact pistol….if you can…you are imagining that you are in a Movie or a Game.

    • Edgar July 14, 2017, 1:59 pm

      On another note: If it you against them and they are armed with a conventional pistol (even a Colt single action army) and you are armed with the P320 Deep Concealment. Who is going to win ?
      In my fantasy…..the attacker shows up holding a P320 Deep Concealment……and after I drop him…Ill have a good laugh.

    • Kent McKnight July 14, 2017, 2:13 pm

      I own this pistol… This is an amazing conceal firearm. It is ready to go. When I first met Full Conceal, I didn’t know what to think (just like everyone else). I shot the pistol, used their holster, went through all different defense tactics and realized this pistol is bad ass. We all have the right to an opinion but until you shoot the pistol all of the “assumptions” made in the comments are wrong.
      1. Safety- Completely safe.
      2. No assembly
      3. you do NOT need to pull out front mag to shoot. I am 6′ 4″ and my finger fits on the trigger with front mag (which is adjustable.)
      4. GREAT to conceal.
      5. Innovative for sure.
      Until you watch the videos and actually have the gun in your hand you will not realize how awesome this gun is to own.

    • David Booth July 14, 2017, 2:27 pm

      This NOT a one finger gun… Watch the videos on their website. fullconceal.com

  • Mike Krkljus July 14, 2017, 1:41 pm

    This is really a half-brained idea.
    You’ll have a hard time pulling this from concealment without a grip to hold on to, and having to reach in front of the muzzle to pull a spare magazine may just result in some poor potential victim shooting themselves in the hand in a high stress situation.
    So many things wrong with this whole concept, one of which is that you are actually giving this thing coverage.

  • Charlie July 14, 2017, 1:34 pm

    If it’s not ready when you pull it out.It’s too late! This configuration makes for a great novelty firearm.Could have some use. I wish I could think of a practical one! I got it Collectors item.

  • Edgar July 14, 2017, 12:37 pm

    The arguments here are strongly against this design with good common knowledge from real world experience. But what no has mentioned is the fact that in many real world situations you are in a violent physical attack and your #1 priority is survival ! You will be defending yourself or briefly fleeing while at the same time drawing your concealed carry pistol…and trying to get a shot off to stop your attacker. It is a GREAT task with a conventional pistol…..it will be your demise with a deep concealed wiz-bang novelty. At a minimum when carrying any firearm, open or concealed carry you should be able to run, dodge, squat, take cover or roll …even fall and still be able to draw your firearm and stop the attacker. It should be instinctive to reach and draw your weapon and bring it to bear on your attacker…..meaning without thought ! As the writers before have written.; you will NOT be able to manipulate that “deep conceal 320” while your tangling with an attacker. Think hard and seriously about this. You won’t be on a range or relaxing practicing with your little gun…..Imagine yourself under attack by one…..or perhaps more attackers….imagine how your going to draw, ready and fire. We didn’t even mention the possibility of the attacker striking or grabbing your gun…..how is that ONE FINGER grip feeling right now ? Carrying concealed IS serious business. Defending yourself or others with a firearm is a great responsibility ! If these Deep Concealed pistols work out in the real world then we will see the results in a few years, in the mean time leave that to the movies and to the video games.

  • John Bibb July 14, 2017, 12:08 pm

    Ugly! Sure looks like A SOLUTION SEARCHING FOR A PROBLEM! to me. AKA Cruising for a Bruising. Lots of issues here.
    I like my Taurus 709 slim with the Crimson Trace trigger guard mounted laser a lot better. Fits well in a pocket without the need for any holster.
    John Bibb

  • Vic July 14, 2017, 11:36 am

    Further proof most firearms are made and sold like fishing lures ..Not to catch fish but the fishermen..

  • mauser6863 July 14, 2017, 10:10 am

    So the concept of a “Super Sub-Compact” P320 is a good idea and will probably resonate with some. The gun reminded me a little of the Sig P224, only a little larger. Using the rail to hold a spare magazine is an interesting idea too.

    If SIG was to offer a 10 shot “Super-Sub Compact” grip frame and magazines, I think they would sell quite a few. Shipping one mag with a flat base plate and maybe another with a finger extension might be something worth looking at. The cost of the replacement frame would be around $50 street price and two 10 rnd mags would be another $35 each, for a total of $120.00. For that money, it might be worth a look.

    I know a lot of guys who love modified pistols and that’s fine by me. Personally, I’m not into spending my cash on them and prefer box stock for the most part. That doesn’t mean people who are attracted to custom work or “Chop-Jobs” are stupid, etc. it’s a free (mostly) market and people can have what they want, mostly.

    At first look, I’m not an immediate fan of the magazine safety component of this project. I’d prefer a pocket holster and a full trigger guard on my gun. Just like the old “Fitz Special” revolvers, I prefer the safety of a full trigger guard over any real or imagined benefits gained from chopping it off.

    Most people don’t practice and train enough and I can definitely see a failure to fire from not ejecting the spare magazine. I, like others also envision that spare magazine being launched across the room in the event of a fight. This of course begs the question, why bother with the whole cost and additional complication of this spare magazine system. Its like buying a Glock and wanting to add a manual safety to it, makes zero sense to me.

    Gun-fightis involving police and honest citizens mostly conform to the rule of 3D’s: Distance = 3 Meters, Duration = 3 Seconds, Discharge = 3 Rounds. Of course your mileage will vary, but this is typical. Speed and accuracy, win the day. Simple is better than complicated. Again a stock SIG “chopped” to 10 rounds, would get the job done and is a valid choice for some.

    The lack of a conventional trigger guard and the additional steps added to the manual of arms, by the addition of the magazine holder, are at first look, a needless complication and potentially dangerous to the user.

    • PaulWVa July 14, 2017, 11:09 am

      “I know a lot of guys who love modified pistols” …..I love modified guns and have done several. But only to improve them for my own use. This is hack job that improves nothing. I can’t believe this story is back up on this sight ($$$?), I’ll just stay with my Sig 320 Sub-compact, 12+1, night sights, four mags, Apex flat trigger…under $600.00 total. Remember the old saying…”just because you can doesn’t mean you should” I still think this is a left-over April Fool’s Joke.

  • MJB July 14, 2017, 9:36 am

    A little pricey don’t you think?

  • Retrocon July 14, 2017, 9:22 am

    Interesting. The one issue. Have is the one many expressed… if you do want the safety of a blocked trigger, you have the inconvenience of having to pull the magazine.

    I would suggest a modification. I assume the rectangle on the side is the mag release? If so, have a second magazine decent point and a spring loaded magazine. This way, if you pull the pistol, you could press the mag lock/release with your finger in safe mode, the magazine would release outward to the second detent, exposing the trigger, but keeping the magazine retained.

    Without this modification, unless I am reading this wrong, having a firearm that almost surely requires two hands to fire, but is going to force you to immediately occupy your weak hand to extract, hold, or dispose of your spare magazine, well, I would fear that more than a few of these might end up in evidence, taken from the corpses of slow responders.

    If you like the suggested mod, just credit ol’ retro when filing the patent! 😉

    • Brian Johnson July 14, 2017, 1:32 pm

      No Blocked Trigger! My fat finger fits in without moving the front magazine. I can quickly shoot out of the holster.

  • burns July 14, 2017, 8:58 am

    Who is going to pull this out and figure out how to assemble it whan someone is shooting at them?

  • Ray Rojas July 14, 2017, 8:57 am

    Ridiculous. A+ for effort, but for petessakes guys quit ruining firearms.

  • burns July 14, 2017, 8:57 am

    Dumb Dumb and Dumber, Who is going to pull this mess out of a pocket and assemble it when someone is shooting at them?

  • Jug July 14, 2017, 8:40 am

    People who dont like guns with safetys, but buy one that takes TWO HANDS, literally, to fire the first shot!

    The human mind never fails to amaze me! One way or another!
    Good place for the moronic term, “progressive/regresive”!

    • Brian Johnson July 14, 2017, 1:26 pm

      I use two hands every time I shoot this pistol… Did you watch the videos on the website? Who said shoot with one hand? That is lame 101.

  • Tooler July 14, 2017, 8:40 am

    No thanx, I’m all for innovation and I like the SIGs that I have, but this is gimmick gun

    • Rachel Mott July 14, 2017, 1:24 pm

      I have sigs- 3 of them. Boring. Full Conceal Sig is best I own. 9 rounds in grip, 9 in mag holder, easy to shoot, fire and conceal. I was skeptical at first- Now I carry it almost everyday.

  • Cyrus July 14, 2017, 8:31 am

    This is exactly the type of stupidness that makes all us gun owners looks stupid to the whole world! Stop the nonsense please!!!

  • Tom July 14, 2017, 8:18 am

    Just buy a Kahr or a Solo

    • Tooler July 14, 2017, 9:07 am

      Right. There are many good choices out there that actually fit in your pocket (or other conceal carry) without being a giant brick, and don’t need to be assembled when you need it in a hurry

      • Brian Johnson July 14, 2017, 1:11 pm

        What assembly? It has 9 rounds in the grip and 9 in the mag holder. Pull out of holster and shoot. I have Kahr and Solo! YOu’re comparing apples to oranges. The Full Conceal is much better. Have you ever held the gun or seen it in person or most important SHOT the pistol?

  • Mister Ronald July 14, 2017, 8:14 am

    I know there is something for everybody but this thing is “NOT” for me.
    I believe my Glock-43 in a OWB Tagua high riding holster covered with just a T-shirt is a better option.
    I would like anyone to sit down and take something out of your pocket,( With a lot of movement – it can be done) Not easy is it?
    I’m sure they will sell a lot of them because most people think concealment is better then real world usage.

  • Zorro July 14, 2017, 7:13 am

    Ridiculous, stupid, a gimmick, and very, very dangerous yes there is a point where to small is dangerous to handle and operate and this appears to be the case. Just another Pirate looking to plunder unaware gun dopes that have to have the latest gimmick. Employ some self control and pass on this STUPID design…!!!

    • Brian Johnson July 14, 2017, 1:14 pm

      Do you own the pistol? How is it unsafe. lol. I own this pistol, met them at shot. One of my favorite pistols.

  • Jay July 14, 2017, 5:17 am

    I like innovation but? It seems to me they have created a strange issue that did’t exist before! How do you in a emergency situation get your finger on the trigger without first removing the front magazine in which a cartridge blocks the trigger? I doubt anyone in an emergency will have their wits about them to dodge this issue without a lot of practice and have a sufficient hold with two fingers to do much good at a perp, time will tell!

    • Brian Johnson July 14, 2017, 1:16 pm

      You DON’T need to remove the front magazine to shoot. NO magazine is blocking the trigger. Why would you think that? Did you watch the videos on the website? You can shoot with one hand with the magazine in the holder. Understand the design before you write a comment

  • bill July 14, 2017, 3:50 am

    If it ain’t broke….

  • Brad July 14, 2017, 3:38 am

    Ok first off this is not new or innovative. The hacked grip/mag under muzzle has been around for quite some time. You probably haven’t heard of it until now because it’s RETARDED and will still never actually catch on.

  • Rachel Mott July 12, 2017, 12:46 pm

    Steve and anyone else who wants to make a “stupid” comment about this gun,

    Have you held this gun or even seen in in person?
    I visited their booth at the 2017 Shot Show in Vegas. The booth was one of the most popular booths at the show continuously crowded by none believers turned believers after actually taking the time to learn what this gun product does. They were voted in the top five most innovative new products in the shot show by people who know a lot about guns. So unless you are saying you know more than those people. Glad I didn’t read your comment before I actually got a chance to shoot this gun. I personally own this gun and who would be “stupid” enough to shoot off their own hand by switching out magazines. World is full of people -like you- who like to make comments about something they know nothing about.

    • Brad July 14, 2017, 3:45 am

      You are their target audience. Someone easy to separate from their money. You obviously have never been in a real situation. Saying dumb stuff like I’m ok at reaching in front of muzzle, I’m not stupid. Well, when you’re being shot at everything you think you knew is gone. Running on adrenaline with tunnel vision. Fine motor control completely gone. You’ve been taken advantage of buy people paid to separate you from your money. And, FYI, this concept has been out for YEARS. You don’t know that because it NEVER CAUGHT ON. It didn’t because it’s really dumb. You’ll see. It’s not the next best thing and even with the sig no one serious will be using this thing and it will die. You’ll be stuck with a dumb design no one will ever buy from you when you realize how bad it is…

    • 97bravo20 July 14, 2017, 8:21 am

      Ms. Mott,
      While I tend to agree that people should avoid commenting on something that they know nothing about. Nor have ever seen or used, in this case I am of the opinion that the nay sayers are correct.
      That said the conceal carry issues women face differ from those of men. I bought my wife her first sub compact Sig using the same mentality most men have. In the end she bought herself a Glock 19. The method of concealment of a weapon is as personal as the choice of weapon. I prefer appendix carry and carry a Glock 23 with a full mag and 1 in the chamber. My wife’s preference is a briefcase with a tear away front pouch that allows her to shoot through the bag or ready access to the weapon using a Velcro attachment system. As a man I thought a mid or full sized weapon was too much for the way women dress. My wife felt that she would rather dress feminine and solve the problem as stated above. The point is she chose the high capacity 9mm full grip based on hundreds of hours on the range and in firing exercises. The truth be told she can access her weapon and fire on target faster than I can. If she chooses to fire through the bag it’s over a full second faster as tests with practice ammo have proven. My point is everyone is different. I don’t like the idea of solving a concealment problem with a single finger grip or an open trigger, or reduced capacity. If I was there I would have urged you to try and solve you concealment issue with a different holster, a belly band or bag before changing weapons. That said if you believe this was your best option, that’s fine. But, please make sure you practice until you can’t stand it anymore and then do it twice more. As the owner of a highly customized weapon you have a responsibility. That responsibility extends not only to yourself but to everyone around you. You must know how to use your weapon effectively and safely especially since it is unusual.
      Best wishes to you
      PS: There are no stupid guns, but there sure are quite a few stupid people
      PSS: I wonder what the courts will say about a highly customized weapon once it is used in a self defense shooting. My guess is the weapon will be problem for the shooter’s defense.

  • Gene Kim July 12, 2017, 12:24 pm

    INNOVATION!! Most gun owners are use to the same old guns- Boring! The M1- Sig P320 is different (in a GREAT way). All my friends who I showed not only liked the pistol but bought one. Concealing is an issue, this is just one way to solve the problem. I conceal the FC Model 1 detective style. I met these guys at the Gun Garage in Vegas shooting their pistol. They showed me, let me shoot it, and I bought the gun that night. Full Conceal vision is very innovative and a change from the same old stuff being brought to market.

  • John Simone July 12, 2017, 12:02 pm

    I own this pistol and absolutely LOVE it. I can never take anyone seriously when they haven’t shot or have seen the pistol. Who would be stupid enough to change magazines from the front of the pistol. That’s gun 101 common sense. I can cc this pistol, easy to shoot and love the feel.

  • Jim Young July 11, 2017, 10:26 am

    Another fix to a non problem. There are many great CC guns out there without needing some rube goldberg POS like this. If you wait in line to get the next Iphone then this may be for you but its a non issue.

    • Steve July 12, 2017, 12:48 am

      Your right this is a another product hitting the market to make stupid people that don’t know much about Firearms spend money nobody with good training in a real self-defense situation once to grab their spare Magazine from the front of their gun especially while they’re in the middle of tunnel vision adrenaline and being scared as hell you might just shoot your fucking hand off furthermore if you want this and just have to have it do it your damn self all they did was chop down the damn grip buy spare frame few spare magazines chop them down put your floor plates on and there you go sorry but for $350 hell no

      • Rachel Mott July 12, 2017, 12:12 pm

        I met Full Conceal at the shot show- At first I was skeptical but I love my FC Model 1 Sig. There is an issue concealing my pistol and this gun goes in my purse or in my pocket. My shot is still very accurate and I love the recoil. I rate this gun a 9 out of 10. I want a tactical light on gun which will be released in a few months. (so they say).

      • Brian Johnson July 12, 2017, 3:02 pm

        Steve & Jim- You obviously do not own this pistol or have ever shot the pistol. How can you write a review when you have no idea what you’re talking about. In order to pull the extra magazine you MUST remove your trigger finger from the trigger, use your trigger finger to hit the MAG RELEASE button, then pull the magazine with your left hand. Why would anyone ever change magazines in the middle of shooting? Shooting 101. So, no, you cannot shoot your hand off- 1. trigger finger needs to release the magazine from mag holder. We should ALL be embracing innovation! Firearm designs are stale but this pistol is hopefully a start to more innovation.
        I’ve owned my Model 1- Sig for 2 months and carry it in a inside holster. I am waiting for the FC Glock to be released in August and for any new future pistols from Full Conceal.

        • bill July 14, 2017, 3:47 am

          Brian, you can’t blame Steve for being skeptical for something that is relatively new and hasn’t been proven. Don’t see any police officers or Military using them. The price is also high. I’ll stick with my proven 1911, sub-compact with 230 grn. Hydra-shocks. I know for a fact that one shot in the heart will stop an attacker in his tracks and that it’s been proven for over a hundred years. This pistol has unecessary complicated features. That’s my opinion anyway, if it’s OK that I’m allowed to leave one.

      • Jeff Waggoner July 12, 2017, 3:13 pm

        How’re you going to ND when the trigger finger is what’s pushing on the spare mag release? I really like the idea of having the spare mag up front. The support hand grips and pulls out the spare mag while the bang maker is hitting the spare mag release. All your focus is up front where the danger is coming from. If you have a habit of flagging yourself while adjusting a surefire light, with a round in the chamber, and can pull an AR15 trigger while simultaneously releasing the mag, then maybe put up a video on youtube because I want to see what life with two trigger fingers is like. End of the day, I’m ordering one. Pocket carry 19 rounds? Yes, please!

      • bill July 14, 2017, 3:38 am

        You’re right steve. This is is bulky and too complicated. Maybe the guy that jumped your ass over defending this weird (to say the least) works for the company. If ppl want to spend over a Grand on it, guess it’s their business, but I wouldn’t be caught dead with it, literally. No, I’ll stick with my traditional 1911/Philippino solution. Is it just a little bigger (sub-compact) but one shot in the middle of the chest and it’s guaranteed to not only fire, but I can move to a second target, if needed, because I know the Perp will NOT be getting up with a 230 grn. Hydra-shock in his heart.

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