Everytown Celebrates New Banking Codes to Track Gun Purchases, Monitor Gun Owners  

Last week, the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) declared that it would create distinct “merchant category codes” for firearm and ammunition purchases.

Credit card companies — specifically Visa, MasterCard, and American Express — have all agreed to follow through with the ISO’s announcement.  

“Following ISO’s decision to establish a new merchant category code, Visa will proceed with next steps, while ensuring we protect all legal commerce on the Visa network in accordance with our long-standing rules,” the payment processor said in a statement obtained by The Associated Press. 

Prior to this change, products purchased from FFLs were categorized as “general merchandise.”

Gun-control activists contend that these new codes will allow financial institutions to report suspicious activity to law enforcement.  

“Today’s announcement is a critical first step towards giving banks and credit card companies the tools they need to recognize dangerous firearm purchasing trends – like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal — and report them to law enforcement,” said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety in a press release. 

SEE ALSO: Gun Control Politicians Want Banks to Snoop on Gun Buyers

“But this is only the first step. Now it’s vital that merchants and banks implement this code swiftly, before more guns end up in the wrong hands,” he added. 

Given that most criminals obtain their firearms via illegal means (black market, theft, straw purchasers) it’s not clear what benefit, if any, these codes will actually provide. 

As former NYPD Detective David Chianese told Fox News, in a 2020 article examining how criminals get their guns, “The majority of firearms used in criminal activity are obtained illegally.  Stricter or additional gun laws do not reduce gun violence.”

Erich Pratt, the Senior Vice President of Gun Owners of America, was also critical of the move as a means to catch criminals.

“This is just the latest attempt by anti-gun lunatic activists to pressure corporations into collecting their own business partners’ data in a way that threatens their privacy, as well as the privacy of the millions of customers who rely on these services for electronic transactions each year,” said Pratt in a press release.

“Make no mistake, if the credit card companies were willing to so quickly cave on this demand, the mob will only demand more, leading us down a dark path where guns and ammo transactions, which are protected by the Second Amendment, are frequently halted and consistently flagged for the authorities,” he continued.  

What are your thoughts about these new “merchant category codes”?

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  • Ray C Atkinson September 21, 2022, 12:21 pm

    43 years in Law Enforcement,(DEA) El Paso SO, USFS, I see no reason for gun control, its a suckers game for votes and money..

  • Harvey September 19, 2022, 11:25 pm

    Those people are going after weapons of war the m16 the m4 so next will be the 1911 a weapon of war they are after all weapons after the get all our firearms next will be crossbow then bows and arrows and slingshot sheep can’t fight back

  • Harvey September 19, 2022, 11:15 pm

    Screw them pay cash

  • GERALD ROBINSON September 19, 2022, 9:34 am

    I have a suggestion that might appeal to the sellers of firearms, ammo, and related items that might help individuals buy firearms and related items and it would not cost the seller any thing, and at the same time give the buyers a slight discount. My idea: When a credit card is used to make any purchase, the credit card companies charge a percentage of the sales amount. If the seller of firearm related items gave the cost in the form of a discount for cash buyers, the seller realizes the same amount of money from the sale, and the buyer might be incline to buy even more. Just a thought. On the political front, I don’t and won’t vote for any canidate who makes promoises, but does not tell me how he or she plans to make that promise a reality. One last mention of the political, the Democrates and Republican office seekers forget that people of both major parties are hunters or gun collectors.

  • Anthony Romano September 19, 2022, 6:18 am

    It doesn’t mention Discover. Anyone know if it’s not included for sure? That’s okay, I’ll pay cash from now on anyway.

  • N2 September 19, 2022, 3:55 am

    When I was a teenager in the 90’s mail ordering everything and anything was accomplished with a USPS Money Order, Seems it’s time to reestablish the practice of creating online purchase order numbers and MAILING YOUR PAYMENT IN! sure it takes a little longer but rue the day with any person who dare commit FRAUD involving a USPS Postal Money order!

  • The Ghostman September 18, 2022, 9:04 pm

    Blue Dog. You said “He dropped some pretty tall stacks on ASSAULT RIFLES and AMMO in a pretty short period of time”.
    There are only three (3) firearms recognized by the US Government as “assault rifles”. The AR or any of their clones are on that list. Listed are the MP-43, Mp-44, and the STG-44. All have selective fire for single shot and full auto.
    Please quit lying and trying to associate semi-auto firearms with assault rifles.

  • Matt September 17, 2022, 12:47 pm

    I’m sure others have noticed nut there is one major credit card company missing from the list that are going to add this number. All you have to do is switch.

  • MICHAEL ROTH September 16, 2022, 11:48 pm

    To Mac, this would all be well and good just like you say. Except when these people that come up with this find out that this isn’t going to do a damn thing in reducing crime, there will be a next step, then another step until it come to confiscation! This will give them the data base to do just that! This gun control stuff has been going on for better then 40 years. People buy into things like “common sense gun control” who’s common sense? Some political hack in DC? Someone that hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about. I know what I’m going to do, stop using my credit card ask these companies to send paper bills then send them a check. Just like the old days. I’ll bet if more people do that and they have to pay people to process all of it, maybe things would change! Maybe if more people read the 10 commandments and lived by them we might not be in this predicament!

  • MASTERMECH48 September 16, 2022, 8:26 pm

    THEY ARE MONITORING THE “WRONG” CROWD. Those of us whom are the good guys do NOT need any oversight. Let me suggest YOU monitor the CRIMINAL SEGMENT, might even get a better result IRT GUN CONTROL. That would be tooooo much work..

  • D.J. September 16, 2022, 6:51 pm

    I got something they can “ track “ .

  • charlie September 16, 2022, 5:15 pm

    I am a Vietnam combat veteran and 73 yrs. old. I carried a colt m16 which is a assault weapon capable of firing
    semi & auto. That IS an assault weapon the woke assholes either ignore are too damn stupid to understand. After all as proven I think it is the latter. I was trained on the M14, M16 and have used the good ole M79 grenade launcher also before I went to the bush I was temporary armorer for the unit. I bought all my weapons before these bastards have invaded our rights. Last month was the first time I registered a firearm, an 9mm pistol, because things on the street are starting to look familiar to Vietnam. I was a police officer in the 70’s and I really feel for the officers today. I mostly collect antiques but I have a bring back that is not registered. Screw em! We need to stop these sorry bastards before they ruin this country. They have already ruined gun shows and will keep fucking with law abiding patriots such as we are. One thing about Vietnam is,
    there were terrible officers that caused good men to die needlessly and sometimes it was “reported” that a
    hand grenade accidently exploded near the unfortunate officer. Terrible! Well that’s war. Isn’t it?
    VOTE IN NOVEMBER

  • John September 16, 2022, 1:44 pm

    I wonder how California senator Leland Yee did his gun trafficking? Credit cards? Let’s find out for the DEMS!!

    • David September 18, 2022, 1:25 am

      This is just another way the Globalist movement tries to outlaw the purchase of guns from law abiding citizens. 99 percent of gun crimes are always done with illegal guns not guns purchased lawfully. The Demon Rats are just scared of a new revolution so just like King George the 3rd he ordered the people to give up their weapons n that’s when we the people said no way to tyranny n the Revolutionary War made America! Because when tyrannical governments like the Obiden administration tries to take our rights then it’s time for a new revolution! It’s ok for them to have guns but not the citizens. Perhaps you’ve heard of the second amendment?

  • Mac September 16, 2022, 1:40 pm

    So, what…? I’m a lifelong legal gun-owner, supporter, carrier-user and NRA member, but I break ranks with some of the NRA and other senseless, pro-gun philosophy. There MUST be certain exceptions, limitations, restrictions, et al, to 2-A rights…it can’t literally apply to ALL people ALL the time, etc, etc. Not all people under all circumstances should have the right to keep/bear arms…and they don’t, even now. What’s to fear but fear itself, as FDR once proclaimed…? If law-abiding gun-owners and the like have nothing to hide/fear, the tracking of gun purchases and/or registering of guns shouldn’t be an issue. When one is convicted of certain crimes and/or has shown/exhibited mental illness or incapacity to a certain degree, they should not own or have access to firearms.

    • Paul September 16, 2022, 5:08 pm

      Is it of no concern to you that the federal and state govt’s are making laws to potentially make law abiding citizens who own guns criminals and confiscate their weapons, while weaponizing federal agencies that have no business or substantial effective training for proper use, application and responsibility for law enforcement to carry firearms, including Veterans Health Administration, IRS, USDA, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, EPA, FDA, etc., or a total of over 70 gov’t. agencies, while turning out convicted violent criminals, including murderers, rapists, kidnappers, child molesters, armed robbers, muggers, etc., into the population en masse? Would you consider that the US is gravitating in the direction of a police state? Just asking.

    • tony September 16, 2022, 5:22 pm

      An INTELLIGENT post here, for once. You are absolutely right in your comments and its nice to see someone of intelligence posting a thoughtful, logical statement. Most of the blithering screamers here going on with their absurd comments on 2A, showing they have zero understanding of its origins and intent, but like many folks they glom onto what seems to be accurate – according to their own intellect, not the intended or generally understood interpretations.

    • Charles Goldsmith September 16, 2022, 7:57 pm

      When your liberal neighbor sends an anonymous tip to the FBI or the ATF that you are a threat,you won’t be saying”so what, I’m a legal gun owner”.

    • Doc Loch September 16, 2022, 9:05 pm

      Mac, I don’t think you have a good grip on the language or the principle here, do you?

    • Hondo September 18, 2022, 5:42 pm

      Dude you are clueless, we don’t need your kind of help lefty, I swear gun owners are there worst enemy, if you are one.

  • Gary Wilkins September 16, 2022, 1:37 pm

    Such a system is completely unnecessary since in most states, legitimate purchases of firearms are already highly regulated by law enforcement agencies. In North Carolina, for example, no handgun can be purchased without the buyer possessing a firearms purchase permit issued by the Sheriff’s office and which permit is surrendered to the merchant at the time of sale*; thus, the Sheriff’s department can easily track how many permits that it has issued to you; a long gun (rifle) cannot be purchased without a background check run by the FBI being run at the time of purchase–who can record the buyer’s name and the type of weapon being purchased. Consider the recent stabbing spree in Saskatchewan, Canada (10 dead, 15 wounded)–is the IOS now going to create a special merchandise code for all knife sales so that banks can be urged to evaluate number and determine how many knives might be amassed that would indicate more than a need for a family steak dinner and likely represent instead a potential armory for a criminal attack spree?

    * except in the case of someone who holds a concealed carry permit; to obtain one includes a lengthy investigation which includes a mental health check, full address history, a fingerprint series, etc.

  • John DeSantis September 16, 2022, 1:06 pm

    Big deal. Stop clutching your pearls and screaming 2nd amendment. It does not stop anyone from buying and keeping guns or ammo

  • Timothy Smith September 16, 2022, 12:35 pm

    Look up infringed in the dictionary. Shall not be Infringed ! Anyone that tries to Infringe on the 2nd is a traitor in my eyes!

    • rog September 16, 2022, 6:01 pm

      you are a real intellectual we see….”Traitor” in YOUR eyes, which evidently is of little value to thinking folks. Its the loud- mouthed in your face types that most generally don’t understand that which they think they do, but in their eyes its in their favor, hence its their interpretation (even though it defies intelligence, logic, and in the case of 2A, History).
      Gawd, Its not “Infringed” that is the key, its “MILITIA” – you just don’t get it like most others, using interpretations that YOU LIKE, not that are factual. That’s the danger with populism, brash, quick, uneducated, illogical conclusions and statements made by people like you…..”traitor”, brother!!

      • Alias47 September 20, 2022, 12:21 pm

        Militia is NOT the keyword, as the INDIVIDUAL right to keep and bear arms has already been affirmed by the supreme court, several times over. Infringed IS a key word that is substantially overlooked by everyone as this right gets debated, legislated, and trampled…all of which are infringements of our individual right to self preservation and the ability to protect our great nation from tyranny, whether foreign or domestic.

  • Ketchum Kenny September 16, 2022, 12:27 pm

    No worries. My homie only takes cash for gun sales anyway.

  • Roger September 16, 2022, 12:13 pm

    Can we get a code for Abortion, I’m against that, And Liquor Sales, I don’t drink Booze, and people that get tickets for driving problems, and knives that might be used to stab people. We also need to make up a star that Jews will have to wear and place Japanese in Internment Camps. Since we are following Hitler’s lead let’s do it all the way! Think it would be OK to drop a couple of Atomic Bombs on Japan?

    Find out if your bank is doing this and close your accounts I’m going to

    • Fal Phil September 16, 2022, 2:05 pm

      That is actually a good idea. We need to start a campaign for petitioning ISO to come up with a code for the left’s sacred cow, abortion.

      • Alex September 19, 2022, 12:23 pm

        It won’t do any good. How many abortion-getting women actually pay for their “service”? I’ve never had one so I don’t know how all that works. It was my understanding that the tax payer pays for Planned Parenthood’s existence.

  • Stan d. Upnow September 16, 2022, 12:11 pm

    Besides the potential for direct data mining on individuals’ purchases at gun dealers, this onerous move could make it possible for the gun-banners to attack not only the dealers, but by extension, the manufacturers(their ultimate target).
    Jonny Q. Criminal leaves traceable gun at crime scene. ATF and police find the dealer who sold the gun. Dealer is held liable for selling the gun used in a future crime, unwittingly. Gunmaker is sued(or even prosecuted) for jeopardizing “public health & safety.”
    This would be seen as a 3-part win for the anti-gunners out there. Think they won’t pursue it?

  • LJ September 16, 2022, 12:01 pm

    Last time I looked ‘cash’ is still legal tender!

  • Stan d. Upnow September 16, 2022, 11:53 am

    Wow, is this woman ever stupid, or she’s lying. I pick lying. She turned hypocrite in one minute when she said we’re not going to track you, or detail what you purchased. After the interviewer essentially said, you need to do those things to have any effectiveness, she nodded her head and said, “Yes.”

    Oh, it’s suspicious if someone walks into a gun shop with $10-20k in cash to make a purchase, since he/she doesn’t want to be flagged by you? Newsflash lady, a high-end gun itself can easily fall into that price range.
    Don’t think a collector is gonna fall on the suspected mass shooter watch list.
    Also, a Class III weapon will easily cost that much, as well. And that purchaser has to go through all the overdone NFA registration process. Again, not your typical mass shooter or terrorist you claim your fucking algorithms might flag.

    All the Leftists do is LIE & DECEIVE to achieve their goals. Just look at who pushed this new category and who’s grinning ear-to-ear now that it’s been adopted. Uh huh.

    In another interview by Women2Watch, Brown crows about how her bank is an activist for organized labor, “gender justice,” “climate justice,” “racial justice,” and politicians(with implied Progressive-Socialist candidates). She also champions the horrific ESG scoring for businesses. She admits her bank has been pushing for this new firearms category for years. To say that this woman is as Left-wing as they come would be an understatement.
    But, it’s OK, just believe our lies that we’re not going to collect data on individual’s firearm purchases and that it’s not going to be stored(yes, she said that). They must think we’re totally stupid not to know what’s behind this move.

    • firstbassman September 19, 2022, 1:04 pm

      “like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal — and report them…”

      …smells like Nazi Spirit

  • Clint W. September 16, 2022, 11:42 am

    Perhaps the USPS money order will make a comeback. But we are living in a death by a thousand cuts time, every little law is adding up to killing the 2A for the citizen. It is even predicted that Texas will be blue after 3 or 4 more presidential election cycles, due to all the Californians and other blue staters moving in that vote for the same type of idiot they voted for where they came from, that made their state not habitable for a free person.

  • The Colonel September 16, 2022, 11:38 am

    Why overthink this? 1. Most of the gun stores I know about have ambiguous names, like “This ‘r’ That Sports Shop.’ 2. Just list the purchase of your new Colt Anaconda revolver as ‘general merchandise’ or ‘sporting goods’ or some such. The store gets paid; the revolver purchase is recorded lawfully for ATF plus whatever State or local approvals are needed, everything is 💯 % legal and these busybodies and political-correctness cranks can get stuffed. Easy peasy.

  • scott September 16, 2022, 11:21 am

    “Blue Dog” sure loves its sensationalism.. Why do so many of you bite every time it speaks. Has anyone thought for a moment for this nonsensical argument to continue, you need to chime in.
    This is not concerning the manufacture of guns, ammo and usage thereof. All the Very lame “Gunsamerica” has to do is dig up some CNN diatribe and lots of gun people start squeaking ..

    What happened to Gun news related non sensationalism info, has it all been lost been lost in the CNN wayside of garbage news??

    Time to find another Blog to read that actually speaks of GUNS.. I doubt they will post this..

  • Nicholas September 16, 2022, 11:06 am

    I’ve read through the comments. No one addresses a constitutional authority. The 2nd amendment community clings to the “individual right theory,” that has not prevented federal or state governments from infringing on our right to keep and bear arms. I appears that after all this time, the question of rights still under attack that the 2nd amendment community does not seem to want to settle the matter by adhering to the original Constitution. “With obvious purpose to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of such forces, the declaration and guarantee of the Second Amendment were made. It must be interpreted and applied with that end in view.” United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
    There are numerous reasons why Miller is either ignored or disparaged. One would be that lawyers have a vested interest in keeping the attack on rights alive. Another would be that the majority want nothing to do with protecting their rights by way of participating in the only constitutional power recognized “to execute the Laws of the Union.”
    In his “Commentaries on the Constitution”, Justice Story wrote; “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpations and arbitrary power of rulers…And yet, though this truth would seem so clear…among the American people, there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burdens, to be rid of all regulations. How it is practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization it is difficult to see. There is certainly no small danger that indifference may lead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all the protection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights.”
    Stop believing in Unicorns, and take back the authority “to execute the Laws of the Union…” by pressing the legislatures and the courts for the purpose of reestablishing the Sovereign Powers of “We the People.”

    • Kane September 16, 2022, 2:10 pm

      NONE SENSE

      • Tom September 16, 2022, 11:43 pm

        Hey genius, if you want to post a response at least use correct english!

        • Kane September 19, 2022, 11:27 am

          sniker

          thanks schoolo marm. spell check all my work

  • Sam jones September 16, 2022, 10:57 am

    The idiots that are celebrating this will be the same ones SQUEALING when they get robbed. Jackasses

  • Big Al 45 September 16, 2022, 10:49 am

    How does this stop a ‘Straw’ purchase?
    Many straw purchases are by women for their ‘boyfriends’, so how would this change or catch that??
    Symbolism over substance is the mantra of the Democrats and their Lefty co-conspirators, and all this does is try to scare away certain people from buying a gun, or to put ‘social’ pressure on them.
    Another ‘Big Brother’ ploy, which will do absolutely nothing to curb so called ‘gun violence’

  • John Boutwell September 16, 2022, 10:40 am

    Hopefully there will be a few court cases on this soon.

  • Richard Cranium September 16, 2022, 10:32 am

    Intelligent gun buyers, and criminals, will always find a way, even if the firearms, ammo & accouterments are BANNED, to get what they need, by using gold, silver or cash and making purchases off the books amongst fellow patriots.

    Crooks will continue to steal what they want, when they want and how they get guns will most likely become even more violent.

    It’s high time we put these demonrats in their rightful place, 6 feet under. I recommend no bag limit and of course, no licensing requirement. BTW, Demonrat hunting season is 24/7/365, get yourself a few. Kill a commie for mommy…

  • Stephen September 16, 2022, 10:07 am

    Easy way around this folks. Pay cash. Even better cut up your credit cards from these companies. You bastards want to try to spy on me? I won’t use you at all. You piss off enough people and your bottom line gets crushed. In fact I do not even use credit cards anymore at all! Got rid of them years ago.

  • bobsyouruncle September 16, 2022, 9:19 am

    I think this has been going on for a while. We lost our rural mountain home in a wild fire in 2012 we lost everything; we had the clothes we were wearing. after the fire there were wild hungry animals all over. I bought a rifle caliber pistol, and a 22 pistol and a 44 mag revolver all purchased with a credit card, shortly after the accounts were frozen, when I contacted the card company, they expressed concern about the way I was using the card without being specific. The accounts remained frozen even after I told them of the fire loss,I had been a card holder for over 30 years.

    • Stan d. Upnow September 16, 2022, 12:01 pm

      I was with Chase Bank for many years, as well. About 2 years ago I discovered that they’d gone “woke.” I called them up and closed my account. The rep on the phone asked if it due to the bank’s social/political stances. I said yes. Obviously, I wasn’t the only one expressing outrage at their policies.

      Hit ’em where it hurts– their bottom line.

  • Duane Nickols September 16, 2022, 9:05 am

    The FFL already has a copy of the gun sales. It doesn’t matter if they paid cash or credit card. The person has already bought the gun with a credit card. How does that stop them.

    What if I buy $300 worth of clothes at Bass Pro Shops, Will the code it as buying a gun?

    This is just another ploy to fool the public that this will curb gun violence. This is segregating gun stores and people who buy guns from everybody else.

    • John September 18, 2022, 10:00 pm

      It doesn’t apply to big box stores!

  • Ron September 16, 2022, 9:03 am

    A couple of items. 1) “Card networks need to enforce the use of the codes”. So now we have the private Card companies acting a enforcement agents for something that is not even a law. 2) “Banks could BLOCK transactions and report suspicious activity to the Treasury Dept. and FBI.” This gives the Card companies the power to decide what constitutes suspicious activity. We all know how that will work. This is all a violation of Privacy, and need to be stopped with Congressional action.

    • Doc Loch September 16, 2022, 11:17 am

      You are right…except you either miss the gravity or were not completely accurate.

      What you meant to say was that once again big money seeks to rule (literally) the world, illegally and thus criminally while we are supposed to do nothing because it’s no big deal!

      • James Sanderson September 16, 2022, 3:18 pm

        Cash only. E-Z and use lay a way for hi-cost firearms.

        FJB

  • James Miller September 16, 2022, 8:14 am

    Hope Visa, MC, etc. miss the 3% rake-off they used to get for these purchases.

  • Al Parrish September 16, 2022, 7:52 am

    It is STILL TRACKING and it is ILLEGAL, I don’t care what you call it. And yes, I know some shotguns sell for over $20,000. So to say if I come into your store with 20K$ or even on my Credit card. I’m automatically under suspicion. BS!

    • Stan d. Upnow September 16, 2022, 12:18 pm

      So, by using cash you think there’ll be no record? Think again. Any withdrawal/deposit at a bank for $10k or more gets flagged. Also, transactions of even lesser amount at a brokerage firm are reported to the IRS; they want every dime they can squeeze out of you.
      Unless you save the amount you want to spend discreetly over time, they’ll have some clue. The bastards have us coming & going.

  • Jerry September 16, 2022, 7:44 am

    Very true about alcohol & cars. How many convicted drunk drivers (not politically correct to call them what they are I know) get caught for the same offense again? I’ve owned guns over 50 years & ted kennedy killed more people with his car than I did with my guns. (Ted-1 me-0)

    • Stan d. Upnow September 16, 2022, 12:22 pm

      But, you’re not a Kennedy. And you own those horrific “weapons of war.” Now classified on a list as a “MAGA extremist.”

  • Gary September 16, 2022, 7:38 am

    Stupidly by the demoncrats
    People will just pay cash

    Oh I forgot Joe and the Hoe are also doing away with cash too!

  • David Fiedeldey September 16, 2022, 7:34 am

    Use cash. Find a credit card with the integrity to NOT follow this invasion of privacy.

  • PB Casterlin September 16, 2022, 7:28 am

    The more they put their foot on my neck, the more I use cash and barter.

  • Timothy Smith September 16, 2022, 7:28 am

    Credit card companies another boycott for me. I guess they don’t need my money!!

  • Chick September 16, 2022, 7:20 am

    Uhhhh….. Excuse me? I don’t recall any laws restricting the number of guns that enthusiasts, collectors or hunters can own. This crap is just that… Bull.

  • Mike Herriges September 16, 2022, 7:05 am

    It’s time for the consumers to stop this madness. Stop using credit cards and debit cards for these purchases. This move by credit card companies is tyranny, and, yes, anti-gunners will use this against you eventually for the next thing they want to control.

  • kenpoman September 16, 2022, 7:02 am

    This is stupid. Criminals will find ways to obtain firearms illegally. Most of the ones that have credit cards have cards that were stolen or a relative’s card.

    Law abiding citizens will find legal ways to porchase firearms without using a credit card. Credit card companies will start losing money and a workaround to this will be fiigured out.

    Responsible firearm owners see the writing on the wall and if they’re as pissed off as they say they are they will vote the bums out in November. And keep bums from being voted in(like that bum Beto).

    Enforce existing laws, make criminals serve their entire sentence. Don’t slap repeat offenders on the wrist, make them serve hard time. These actions will do more to end gun violence than a new credit card purchase category.

    Finally, if this new category is implemented there will be a large spike in firearm purchases before it takes effect and the new IRS agents hit the streets(or start monitoring financial transactions on the internet).

    Again this is a stupid idea and we need to vote the bums out in November!!!!!!

  • SuperG September 13, 2022, 9:11 am

    They are not looking down the road. If they were, they’d see the Communists using these codes to discriminate too.

  • paul I'll call you what I want/1st Amendment September 12, 2022, 7:01 pm

    Enlisting foreign powers to end around the constitution….hmmmm….there’s a word for that ( i would say treason but that seems to only apply only to trump and his supporters). Wanna use cash well they now track bank accts for that, and throw in the 87k armed irs agents and do the math here. The credit card companies better watch out because they will get blamed for not reporting things when something happens! The shit is going to hit the fan thats for sure!!!!

    • Marion R. McMillan MD(public) September 16, 2022, 7:02 am

      It’s a gun registry, period. Once Patriots take back the majority in Congress, we’ll get rid of this too. In the meantime, I’ll just use cash. I’m gonna check with Midway and the other major outlets to see if there will be a workaround.

      • Alan1018 September 16, 2022, 10:09 am

        The workaround is to use checks and money orders to those merchants who will accept them. Any that don’t will lose sales.

    • Recce1 September 16, 2022, 7:14 am

      PLEASE, treason has a VERY specific and limited meaning in law, at least US law. Also, the Courts have ruled (long ago) that it can ONLY be applied in certain circumstances, i.e., in time of DECLARED war. When was the last time we engaged in a constitutionally legal war?

      It bothers me greatly that so many conservatives are blissfully ignorant of the meaning or even where it’s found in US law. How can we defend the Constitution and the Republic it stands for if we don’t even know what the Constitution says from an exegetical rather than exegetical manner? Ignorance IS NOT bliss.

      • Kane September 16, 2022, 9:50 am

        Never heard you talk about the specific legal meaning of “insurection” or how you could have an “insurection” w/o ever charging anyone with “insurection.”

      • Nicholas September 16, 2022, 10:01 am

        You are correct on the specificity of treason, but it does not necessarily have to be a declared war. Obviously, if we are under attack, that is an act of war, and the first action on our part need must be to “repel Invasions”. If there is a treasonable design such as giving secrets to a foreign government, or disarming the constitutional authority with the power to “repel Invasions.” “To complete the crime of levying war *** there must be an actual assemblage of men for the purpose of executing a treasonable design.”. Ex Parte Bollman 8 U.S. 75.
        So, if you have an unconstitutional agency such as the FBI, or ATF usurping the authority at Article I, § 8, Cl. 15, that would be a treasonable design.
        There are a couple of articles that are interesting on this subject; “The Offensiveness of Taking Political Offense” on News With Views, and “A Case Of Treason” on Restore the Republic.

      • paul I'll call you what I want/1st Amendment September 16, 2022, 2:04 pm

        errrrr……enlisting or abetting a foreign power to overthrow or undermine our government is treason just ask those that have sold military secrets to other country’s, especially the nuke secrets! Wartime has no bearing except for judgement and sentence.

  • John Bonforte September 12, 2022, 6:14 pm

    “Given that most criminals obtain their firearms via illegal means (black market, theft, straw purchasers) it’s not clear what benefit, if any, these codes will actually provide. ”

    Actually that makes it perfectly clear what benefit they expect from the codes and it’s nothing to do with criminals.

    • Blue Dog (he/him) 🧢 September 13, 2022, 3:03 pm

      I have to disagree with you, John. While I agree that many firearms used in crimes are acquired criminally and would be outside the ability to flag with these codes, these codes are for catching guys like the Uvalde shooter (the one from last spring, not the one from a week or so ago, but maybe him too?). He dropped some pretty fat stacks on assault rifles and ammo in a short period of time, and on credit. Maybe the families of those 22 kids would be grateful for a chance to stop him.

      • paul I'll call you what I want/1st Amendment September 14, 2022, 11:20 am

        And why would that determine a bad guy? What about the bad guy that goes cheap and buys a crap gun and a case of ammo (which is more work than just getting the gun illegally)? If I wanted to start doing 3 gun I could drop that easy! Given the fact that the liberals in this country would rather lock up the law abiding and let the criminals run free. They can’t do this legally so they now drop it in the laps of the financial institutions to do their dirty work, and if it backfires then they have a scapegoat!!!

      • Thoughtful September 16, 2022, 6:22 am

        BlueHim, help me understand what is an “assault weapon”? You indicated the Ulvalde nutjob had dropped some “fat stacks” on “assault weapons” and ammo. The fact that you use non-sensical, anti-2nd amendment leftist terminology exposes you for the leftist troll that you so obviously are. This end-around of the US Constitution is NOT an avenue to stop any gun related tragedy. Disarmed citizens, using government agencies to punish your political opponents, labeling anyone that doesn’t worship the religion of the greenies as an “extremist”…………it is easier to keep your subjects under control if the only “assault weapon” available to them is sticks and stones.

      • Concerned Citizen September 16, 2022, 7:10 am

        If there is such an honest concern for life then why don’t they start with alcohol purchases. Or automobile purchases. Both of which are involved in many more unintended deaths than intentional firearms incidents. We all know it’s guns in particular that are the target, including the disingenuous anti-gunners that won’t admit it.

      • Recce1 September 16, 2022, 7:26 am

        I wasn’t aware that the Uvalde mass murderer used a military main battle rifle with either burst or full automatic mode. Also, how does hunting ammunition go off automatically by itself? In addition, was the 30-06 round, a larger round used in the Browning BAR an automatic round? Could you refer me to a reliable site that shows ANY of that?

        Or could it be you don’t know the definition of assault rifles and if assault ammo even exists? Or is assault ammo anything larger than a .22LR round?

      • Kane September 16, 2022, 10:04 am

        Of course BD claims that all “he/him” firearms are bought on the secondary market fueling transactions that avoid oversight by these overeaching NGO’s and also a specific one of many 3 letter government organizations that need to know about him’s guns.

        Maybe BD will now do a post on how him registered all him guns w/o any legal obligation. My guess is that he guns are just like Beto’s collection and no paper trail.

        • Blue Dog (he/him) 🧢 September 16, 2022, 4:28 pm

          You raise an interesting point, Kane. Would used firearms bought from stores be subject to these credit card codes? I hope so. It shouldn’t be too hard to include used guns if they aren’t already.

      • Stan d. Upnow September 16, 2022, 12:36 pm

        Again, the Blue Dog(he/him/she/they/it) tries to sound reasonable & logical and utterly fails.

        Without knowing What was purchased, there is no way to flag any transaction as potentially dangerous.
        Did he buy 12 AK-47’s, or just a single, rare, collectable gun? Doesn’t really matter to them, as they see you as a gun owner, period. They ARE coming for your guns, despite the lies they tell.

      • Robert September 16, 2022, 1:07 pm

        I mean you have to be a special kind of loser to troll a gun site as religiously as you do. I actually feel bad for you. Such a pathetic life and existence that this is your entertainment.

      • paul I'll call you what I want/1st Amendment September 16, 2022, 2:08 pm

        Hey blue dog shouldn’t you be mourning your queen at this time????

        • Blue Dog (he/him) 🧢 September 16, 2022, 4:24 pm

          Did something happen to Lynda Carter? ‘cuz she is my only queen.

        • Hondo September 18, 2022, 6:19 pm

          Yeah what Paul said.🤫

      • D.J. September 16, 2022, 6:57 pm

        Welcome back from your vacation .

        I see you still remain the impertinent commentator we all
        love and missed . Another brilliant comment from the
        neo- communist caucus .
        Congrats .

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