Hogg Explains Why He Was Ready for Media Interviews Following Parkland

Hogg Explains Why He Was Ready for Media Interviews Following Parkland

Hogg has been making the national media circuit on the anniversary of the Parkland massacre.

David Hogg was ready to launch his career in the public spotlight almost before the man who killed 17 of his teachers and classmates at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School had been taken into custody. Hogg appeared on multiple national news outlets hours after the massacre with a carefully crafted gun ban pitch the American public was ready and willing to hear.

One year after the tragedy, Hogg is still working the national media circuit. He’s flipped his experience at Parkland into an acceptance letter from Harvard, nearly one million Twitter followers, and national name recognition that will serve him in good stead during his inevitable run for office.

Hogg recently appeared on CNN to try to explain how he was so prepared to take advantage of the massacre.

SEE ALSO: David Hogg & New Congress Push Universal Background Check Bill

“I think it was two classes I had taken throughout my high school career,” he said, “which were speech and debate, where we previously had to debate things like universal background checks and the digitization of ATF records. And also my experience in TV production as the school’s TV news anchor co-host and also news director.”

Hogg also appeared on MSNBC this week, where he argued that people who use an AR-15 for self-defense are “hunting a human being” because AR-15’s “have an effective range of over 1500 meters.”

SEE ALSO: David Hogg Threatens to ‘Destroy’ Smith & Wesson If It Doesn’t Donate $5M to Gun Control Research

MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell asked Hogg about his experience working with the relatives of the 17 people killed in Parkland to pass gun ban laws in states around the country.

“Sometimes it does have to be state-by-state,” he said. “Even at the state level, sometimes they don’t want to work with us. That’s why in Florida yesterday along with several family members of people that were lost in the shooting at my high school, we introduced a ballot initiative that we are working on getting right now to ban assault weapons in the state like the one that the shooter at my high school used so that no other person can get their hands on them.”

“The truth of the matter is weapons like the AR-15 have an effective range of over 1500 meters,” he added, in his best high school speech and debate style. “If you’re using the weapon within an effective range of over 1500 meters you are not defending yourself, you are hunting a human being. And I don’t think any civilian needs to have their hands on a military weapon like that.”

While he’s expressed interest in running for national office, he’s rooting for Michelle Obama to run in 2020 to “end this madness already.”

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  • CHRIS November 24, 2020, 6:09 am

    Using any weapon in self defense when under attack is NOT hunting. AR15s aren’t military weapons. They are semi-automatic rifles for civilian use. If you are scum enough to attack someone unprovoked then don’t complain that their weapon of defense is too accurate or efficient. Hogg is irrelevant except as a useful idiot for the left’s agenda.

  • luis cota February 18, 2019, 2:30 pm

    just look at this kid has no experience and look at the way he looks on the website ….why did his parents let him and his ..friends dress that way. as if he knew everthing. says alot about his parents i bet his pants are half down tennis shoes untied. typical know it all!!! turn your ballcap around! he is going just going for the money….just like all the rest of people that want a easy way out .before he points his finger , he should take a look at his self.

  • Frank February 18, 2019, 11:05 am

    Why don’t this scumbag leftist moron get a paper route or something .

    • Bobs your uncle February 18, 2019, 1:50 pm

      Paper routes, or honest work of any kind won’t get you international attention and millions of dollars in donations.

  • Greg February 18, 2019, 10:10 am

    David Hogg shows his ignorance by using liberal talking points with alternative “truths”. He needs to look up the definition of an assault rifle first but he is using the term to invoke emotion, not convey facts. The supersonic range of M193 ammunition from a 20 inch barrel will go sub-sonic at just over 1000 yards with an effective range of much less, probably half. These are the same hypocrites that want to take guns away from people to “save” lives but love to murder helpless, unborn children.

    • Neal March 8, 2019, 1:42 pm

      Army Docs state 600 meters as max effective range. There are some special, single load ammo being used in special competition heavy barreled rifles with a high rate of twist that will punch a target at 1000 meters. Not your typical AR. It would be nice if this infant wanna be would do his homework and have some, nay any, idea of what he is talking about. Most 5.56/.223 ammo is 55 grain full metal jacket (FMJ) being fired through a 1:12 rifled barrel falling into the 600 meter range. Most shooters, your average “I want an AR” types couldn’t “hold ’em and squeeze ’em” well enough to find a 6×6 foot target at 500 meters. As we learned in the Corps, the 500 meter line separates the Experts from the Marksman.

  • Dan Gore February 17, 2019, 2:22 pm

    Actually the mental defect is not realizing that you have the right to self defense! Hogg and his parents obviously have that defect. As do the Demoncrats! They all should be in the mental institution for thinking that these laws will fix the problem of criminals &violence. Want to send a message to the scum in America? Declare “open season” on criminals! Bet you couldn’t sell licenses fast enough!($1)each,no bag limits, no hour restrictions,any caliber, gage,or firearm capacity ok.

  • e February 17, 2019, 12:31 pm

    I have been helping my son with his Social Studies class. Getting ready for civil war history.

    Kind of scary to look at some similarities of then and now. Leading up to the war people from big cities started to impose their beliefs on others. Making promises and only small amounts of changes at a time. Making agreements that people would still have their own way of life, but in the end went back on those agreements. The south noticed the writing on the wall and became nervous about the intent of the north. After the liberal north refused to accept voting results, the war finally started.

    I would never and will never condone slavery. I find it an appalling time in our history, that should be taught as such. However maybe there is another lesson as well? When you push your agenda onto law abiding people you can expect some push back.

  • e February 17, 2019, 11:54 am

    Sad that his school debate team allowed such misguidance. Schools are creating a lot of the Crazy Lefties. They will not teach reality. In the real world bad things happen everyday that can not be stopped by taking rights from the law abiding. Now he’s headed for liberal college!?
    Time to have a bill pass that requires schools to teach gun safety and realistic ways to deal with fear. Saying that all gun crime can be stopped yet arming school officers and other security forces is not realistic.
    As for his endorsement for Mike Obama 2020, bring it on!

  • Bobs your uncle February 17, 2019, 10:09 am

    This is showbiz, remember the old Hollywood adage “It doesn’t matter what they say about you, as long as they are saying something” The more outrages the shit they say, the more publicity they get. Think of the actor in Chicago until recently, you’d never heard of. This is a lot like 1950’s TV wrestling, the announcer says “He’s young, he’s tough, he’s gonna take your guns and kick your ass” Our reply, “BOOOO, BOOO

    • e February 17, 2019, 12:37 pm

      Nicely put!

  • luis cota February 17, 2019, 9:16 am

    to show how …… this kid is…did his hat come with instructions on how to ear it properly? his shoes are probably not tied either.

  • George Lallement February 17, 2019, 2:41 am

    I can’t believe anyone is still listening to this twerp. He was not even in the school when the shooting happened. So how can he be a survivor of anything but stupidity.

  • Brian February 16, 2019, 11:27 pm

    Man is this kid clueless!!! He knows nothing about guns and less about life! Assault rifles aren’t close to military
    grade and as for as distance
    my deer rifle can shoot farther!

  • Gary February 16, 2019, 7:30 pm

    Hogg is wwwaaaaaaayyyyyy Off on his “effective range” of the AR-15 Specs peg it at 300 Meters, So apparently the undereducated Motor-Mouth Learned NOTHING in High School. He will be as Popular as Robert Francis O’Rourke.
    with his plan to eliminate the Border Patrol and ICE Looks like Beat-Off O’Rourke forgot thr Coast Guard, too.

    • Rattlerjake February 17, 2019, 1:07 am

      Why in hell do people listen to anything from these leftist morons, especially when they have ZERO knowledge or experience with any weapons? He says an AR15 is effective to 1500 meters? I’ll bet he doesn’t even know how far a meter is! And if that range was true, then our military would have no need of 7.62 or .50 cal. rifles.

      • e February 17, 2019, 12:00 pm

        People pay attention and buy his BS because they are just as clueless. They will believe anything the computer,phone, tablet, or professor tells them without ever getting real evidence.

  • deanbob February 16, 2019, 5:17 pm

    Too few say a single word about all of the failures that lead up to this shooting, that had almost any single one of them been done, the shooting never would have taken place. But that is not part of their narrative nor does it serve their agenda to control, first a few guns; then more and more. 99.9% of all gun owners commit ZERO violence.

    But, how will the control those who will get their guns illegally?

  • G Wasno February 16, 2019, 2:30 pm

    Liberal school system ochistrated the whole thing….They all knew who he was & what he wanted to do. 20 plus police visits to his house & nobody searches his room for weapons ever ? 17 people MARTYRED on purpose for the ends GUN CONTROL !!! Open your eyes & start asking the REAL questions…Promise act !!! Dah Obama finds out about & promotes it !!! 17 more count of criminally negligent homoside or mansuaghter for Obama to add to 200 + in the gun running operation in Mexico & of course 4 counts Bengazie

  • Gourdhead February 16, 2019, 12:29 pm

    This little faggot ‘survivor’ wasn’t near the shooting scene and his 1500 meter range statement about AR’s is another lie of the many he has told. If AR owners were hunting humans, the little pissant wouldn’t be mouthing off in front of any camera he could find.

  • shawn g lindsey February 16, 2019, 9:07 am

    This little douche had been waiting for his 15 minutes of glory. I have no use for dicks like him.

  • rick moss February 16, 2019, 2:07 am

    Unfortunately all this talk about background checks is just talk. Unless you have a criminal record, or a domestic abuse charge, nothing shows on any record. You are just a ghost. Even schools don\’t report suspicious behavior unless its involving the police. The talk about mental health is the same thing. It costs money and the money just isn`t available. Its not important enough to the politicians .Also it might be a good idea to join the NRA whether you agree with their politics or not because having fifty million members or so would have a much larger power than the six million that they have now.Its cheaper than a couple hours of range time.

    • Edward A Allen February 24, 2019, 9:18 am

      There is more than enough money to fund mental health issues. Quit funding other nations and the various research projects and, of course, planned parenthood.

      Consider this – If you get physically injured at work in the state of California, you will be covered for life for that injury. If you are permanently disabled, you will get compensated for life.

      But! If you are mentally injured while at work, you are only covered for 3 years. After that, If you are permanently injured, you have to hope and pray that Social Security will grant you disability payments.

      Mental harm is harder to recover from than physical harm.

  • rick moss February 16, 2019, 2:06 am

    Unfortunately all this talk about background checks is just talk. Unless you have a criminal record, or a domestic abuse charge, nothing shows on any record. You are just a ghost. Even schools don’t report suspicious behavior unless its involving the police. The talk about mental health is the same thing. It costs money and the money just isn`t available. Its not important enough to the politicians .Also it might be a good idea to join the NRA whether you agree with their politics or not because having fifty million members or so would have a much larger power than the six million that they have now.Its cheaper than a couple hours of range time.

  • jammer February 16, 2019, 12:29 am


  • O. Temple Ascue Jr February 15, 2019, 10:43 pm

    who the fuck cares.

    • Hondo February 16, 2019, 7:35 pm

      You do dumbass , otherwise you wouldn’t of bothered to post.

  • Dan February 15, 2019, 8:28 pm

    He’s everything wrong with the world. One day he’ll get what’s coming to him.

  • Andrew N. February 15, 2019, 7:43 pm

    I’m pretty sure a 5.56 would still be effective on mice, or other small mammals at 1500 meters, but you would have to have great aim! I hate it when idiots talk to other idiots, as they believe whatever shit comes out of the talking idiots mouth. You want to see scary? Click on the last Twitter feed at the end of the article. Moron after moron talking about what a great President Michele Obama would make. There are far too many brain-washed or brain dead idiots allowed to vote. There should be some sort of competency test to vote, this is getting frightening how many sheeple believe anything they see on the “News”. Walter Cronkite and Edward Murrow are spinning in their graves. They reported NEWS, and made sure everyone knew when they were editorializing. (Giving their opinions, not reporting news.)

  • Dave Cox February 15, 2019, 7:39 pm

    I cannot figure out why Guns America is giving this mentally ill child any voice whatsoever. We all know the mainstream vermin and the democrats will pander to his despicable dog and pony show but Guns America should NEVER give this tool ANYTHING in the way of publicity.

    • S.H. Blannelberry February 15, 2019, 7:43 pm

      Keep your enemies closer…

  • Bravo Bravo February 15, 2019, 7:09 pm

    Let’s get off our butts and do something. Since he is making claims that an AR can ‘hunt humans’ at 1,500 m, how about we wager him to hit a man sized target at that distance. I’ll let him use the 16″ 5.56 mm AR of his choice and give him 5 tries. I’ll put up the first $100, who is with me?

    • Lorrie Stirling February 15, 2019, 9:01 pm

      I’ll put up the second.!

    • harold February 15, 2019, 9:17 pm

      me too and i will give him 10 shots, the tool

    • Marc A Kappel February 17, 2019, 1:46 pm

      I will definitely sign up for that!

    • Neal March 8, 2019, 1:51 pm

      I’m in, easiest money I’ll ever make. Hmmm, maybe we can talk him into giving us odds. If he is so confident in the range and ability of the AR we should get a 10 to 1 payout when he misses. With every miss, we move the target 100 M closer and the bet is double or nothing. By the time he misses at 1000 m my $100 becomes $32K and over $1M when he misses at 500 m.

    • Bob Ailanjian October 15, 2019, 9:42 am

      He’d never get a shot off. Try to hand him an AR and He’ll scream like a little girl and run away, leaving a wet yellow trail a mile wide behind him.

  • DocLoch February 15, 2019, 5:42 pm

    “So no one can get their hands on them!”

    That is the fallacy of the fairy tale/reality challenged. This ignorance must be crushed in any conversation with any who have any problem with firearms or any other weapon.

    Notice the repeated use of the word any…as to include all. This was on purpose and to make the confused take notice.

  • ArturS February 15, 2019, 4:29 pm

    This is one of those bastards who cover their cowardice with empty words about peace. These moral freaks believe that the army serves as fools and losers. Where I was at his age, this mom’s son wouldn’t have lived two days.

  • Jean February 15, 2019, 4:00 pm

    He lives in one of the richest counties in the state. He’s never has had a hog charge him. One bullet won’t put a big hog down unless your a sharp shooter. I’m alive to day because a friend had his AR.

  • Oldwestman February 15, 2019, 2:35 pm

    Hey kid do me a favor, go out in the real world and measure off 1500 meters, and then look at a human sized target with your naked eye, can’t see it too well? You shouldn’t shoot your mouth off about something you know nothing about. I’ll bet you don’t even know how much that .22 center fire drops at 500 meters let alone over a thousand. The laws of physics work on bullets regardless of what you think. You only make yourself look like a fool when you say stuff like this.

  • nfafan February 15, 2019, 2:14 pm

    Too many Hogg supporters here for comfort.
    No wonder we lost the house to anti-Americans.

  • Robert Mccallum February 15, 2019, 1:57 pm

    “The AR15 has an effective range of 1500 meters”… god this kid is stupid, like most liberals. Even 762×51 is only good to 1000 meters in most cases.. 5.56 is good to about 500 meters .. especially out of a 16inch barrel

    • ArturS February 15, 2019, 6:49 pm

      Do you find yourself in the target of a wild boar with 500 meters without an optical sight from AR-15 in 223? I’m having a hard time with the X 5 optical sight in the 7.62 x 39 caliber at 500 yards. AR-15 is a civil variant of м4, tactical weapon for the city positional battle. 100-300 yards. These rifles are bought for sports shooting, not to protect life and home. The kid’s just very cowardly. Sigmund Freud explained it well. The best semi-automatic weapon for protection of the House (enclosed premises) is AK 47. You can take it for a barrel and hit it. He’s probably not breaking up. )))))

  • Brian February 15, 2019, 12:47 pm

    You will have to kill me to get my guns you little SOB! Good luck, punk!

  • Ed February 15, 2019, 12:45 pm

    Since he was so prepared, he must of had prior knowledge or was a part of the whole plan.

    • Richard Robinett February 15, 2019, 4:56 pm

      Don’t you remember? Hogg and all his little cohorts bullied the kid for YEARS!

  • KIM February 15, 2019, 12:28 pm


    • Rob Roberts February 15, 2019, 4:16 pm

      They say “Ignorance can be fixed, but Stupid lasts forever”.. Ignorant or stupid either way, it does NOT rise to the level of wishing his DEATH…that’s disturbing.

    • Lars Pedersen February 15, 2019, 8:43 pm

      David Hog is not a “survivor” because he was not at the school during the shooting! He rode his bike three miles to the school when he heard about the shooting on TV! He stated as much during one of his first interviews so I wish everyone would stop calling him a “shooting survivor” because he is nothing of the sort! He’s just a loud mouth little s**t who’s mother worked for CNN and couldn’t wait to use his deceased school mates to run his ignorant mouth!

  • pete February 15, 2019, 12:19 pm

    Good for him. It’s still a free country and he survived a horrible and senseless tragedy that we all should take steps to ensure never happens again. He is DOING SOMETHING, which I’m guessing most of us gun nuts on this site cannot say. Mass killing of innocents is NOT an acceptable price to pay for us to have instant access to massive fire power. Some more limits are reasonable and necessary. We need to grow up, grow a pair, etc.

    • Slingblade February 15, 2019, 12:54 pm

      Hogg is as worthless as tits on a boar hog and so are you! Obviously the only kind of “pair” you have BTW!

    • pete February 15, 2019, 1:06 pm

      Oh, and I\’m not a liberal troll.

      • nfafan February 15, 2019, 2:05 pm

        And I survived D-Day and Hue with Hogg and Pete!!

      • Comanche February 15, 2019, 2:36 pm


      • John L February 15, 2019, 2:59 pm

        “Not a liberal troll”. LOL. You’re not any kind of troll. You suck at it.”Us gun nuts” ? If you’re going to troll, at least put a little more effort into it.

      • Scott February 15, 2019, 3:09 pm

        “Oh, and I\’m not a liberal troll.”


        What compelled you to say that?

        Need to get out in front of the ‘narrative’, right?

        But your attempt at preemption is 100% transparent.

        Leftist troll.

    • Robert Mccallum February 15, 2019, 2:01 pm

      Lol, do you really expect people to believe you are a gun owner with that garbage you spewed? . More people are killed from hammers and bats than all rifles in a year and 3 times as many are killed with knives.. look it up.. educate yourself , you just sound stupid… don’t forget 33 killed at Virginia tech with a pistol… or over 80 in Nice France with a truck… you libs just have no sense

    • Martingard February 15, 2019, 2:24 pm

      He’s just so mean and frightening looking and he’s scaring me and my children.

    • Scott February 15, 2019, 3:07 pm

      “Good for him. It’s still a free country and he survived a horrible and senseless tragedy that we all should take steps to ensure never happens again.”


      Steps that do NOT include violating our Rights. Don’t forget that part, Pete.


      “He is DOING SOMETHING, which I’m guessing most of us gun nuts on this site cannot say.”


      Well aren’t you precious!

      Does Soros pay you directly, or do you get paid through some kind of community organizing network?


      “Mass killing of innocents is NOT an acceptable price to pay for us to have instant access to massive fire power. ”


      Oh yes it is. Slap your mouth, Soros troll.

      And here’s why.

      Because the moment our God-given Right to keep and bear arms is gone, it won’t be tens of people being killed, or even hundreds.

      It will be MILLIONS.

      And if you can’t grasp that concept, then you’re not for real.

      Just another Soros-troll.

      Welcome to it, Pete.

    • Richard McDonalh February 15, 2019, 3:45 pm

      Nobody disputes he survived an awful and senseless shooting, but depriving law abiding citizens of their constitutional rights isn’t the answer. There is a thing called due process..It’s the GUILTY who are punished. It’s like Thomas Jefferson said (I’m paraphrasing) When the government fears the people we have democracy, when people fear the government there’s tyranny.! People have a right to protect themselves from criminals who are armed with ar 15’s why should we be at the disadvantage..?

    • Rick February 15, 2019, 4:04 pm

      So attempting to violate the rights of millions of citizens for the criminal actions of a few is acceptable action??/ Lets apply that to your other rights and see how that feels.
      Why is there never a call to ban the numerous other ways lives are affected or ended in this country? Ones that are not protected by the Constitution btw?

    • Dennis Diggett February 15, 2019, 4:25 pm

      Pete, the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is not to give you the right to hunt wild boar or shoot a burglar in your bedroom. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is give citizens the ability to prevent their subjugation and annihilation by an out of control dictatorial or genocidal government; for that you need massive firepower, at a minimum AR-15s in .556 as well as .762. A few .50 cal rifles would also be most beneficial.

    • Stuart February 15, 2019, 4:32 pm

      “We” meaning you, and your ill-informed liberal trash boyfriends. If you are afraid of guns, don’t buy one. “We” don’t like reach-arounds, but “we” aren’t trying to stop you and your sick-in-the-head boyfriends from doing them daily.

    • Greg February 15, 2019, 4:48 pm

      Why do people think doing wrong, or unconstitutional or useless things is somehow better than doing NOTHING? The gun grabbers scooped this kids up as their mouthpieces and taught then everything to say. For the most part the things they support won’t accomplish reducing a single life and they are against the actual thing that might save lives.
      It’s stupid backwards thinking liberalism. YOU WILL NEVER get all the guns so you should stop wasting time and effort on that fantasy. Better to focus on enforcing the laws we have (which they don’t) implementing mental health programs (and not just in school), Gun safety.

      Parkland was failed by the system and NOTHING they talk about fixes any of those failures no, Doing Something isn’t better than doing nothing and gun laws make as much sense on this as banning cars would to stop drunk drivers.

      • Jeff R February 15, 2019, 8:14 pm

        From what I remember about that day was Hogg wasn’t even there at school that day

    • Bob Boy February 22, 2019, 6:26 am

      I am doing something also. Every time Hogg Boy makes the news I donate another $100 to the NRA.

  • Captain Dave February 15, 2019, 12:09 pm

    Everyone!!! Please bear in mind that even negative attention “promotes” and that means that even forums like this one, help to move him forward in his endeavor to destroy our rights. As difficult as it may be, our best chance of beating jerks like this is to ignore them. No more attention because we all know that he doesn’t deserve it. Worse yet, no more pics like above. I’ve puked enough.

    • glock19fan February 15, 2019, 1:11 pm

      Ignoring him is a mistake. We need to read his screeds and call attention to his errors and outright lies. Looking away will simply let him get away with his disinformation and half-truths.

  • Dave Brown February 15, 2019, 12:04 pm

    Folks, Time Are A Changing. Me 66 years, gunning for over 52 years and still going strong. Years ago the NRA Attracted me into Gunning. Today, The NRA and way to many of US gunners are Attacking and not Attracting. Think about it please. Work with them and not just against them. Attract them into understands US Gunners. Now They have to work with US also. Try it you might like it. Free Your Mind, Be Party Blind.

    • Comanche February 15, 2019, 2:45 pm

      Sir, I’m sure everyone here would be minding their own p’s and q’s if they were not being attacked along with their Second Amendment right being attacked so you tell me sir who’s attacking who this is considered a counter attack or defense, I hope you’re able to understand that unlike Pete!!!%🇺🇸

  • Jim B February 15, 2019, 11:28 am

    This little dweeb needs a good spanking. He has no idea what the difference is between and Assault Rifle and a Semi-automatic hunting rifle is. If he thinks an AR is something that anyone in their right mind would take into combat he is just plain ignorant. He also has no understanding of what self-defense is and why the AR is a very good choice, much better than a shotgun if the truth be told. The AR-15’s .223 cal. round does not penetrate walls very well unlike a 12 ga. shotgun loaded with buck or a slug which can easily penetrate walls and other people you don’t want hurt. If people would only educate themselves about firearms and what they can and cannot do we would not have people spreading silly and scary false information.

  • Peter Brown February 15, 2019, 11:17 am

    How can a nice young girl go so wrong?

  • ~ Occams February 15, 2019, 11:10 am

    Since most of you here are pretty unaware of the actual facts and truth regarding these False Flag, scripted events (like how many of you so-called ‘shooters’ even recognized a belt-fed 7.62 in the famous ‘Vegas/Paddock nonsense???), so if any of you care to learn and wake up BEFORE you lose everything, and through your own ignorance ‘left-handedly’ assist in this nonsense;

    Hogg’s ‘closet video’ was actually shot IN THE MORNING, BEFORE THE EVENT.

    Yes. Really. He asks the girl he’s interviewing for her permission and talks about it being 9:32am.

    “At the 0:45 mark, Hogg identifies the girl as Alex Vieux. He says:

    “This is Alex Vieux. This recording was taken at 9:32, February 14, 2018. Alex, are you okay with me recording this?”

    I’d say it’s time to start learning the truth rather than being sheep and patsies for their gun-grabbing agendas – but it’s already too late, I’d say, since Mr. 2nd Amendment ‘Trojan Horse Trump’ seems willing sign any and all gun-grab bills:


  • Michael Helms February 15, 2019, 10:59 am

    When I was Master Hogg’s age I was a USMC rifleman serving in Vietnam. I had an M-16 that I DID use to hunt human beings. Of course said human beings were also hunting me. My M-16 even had a selector switch that on occasion came in handy. I had so much fun hunting down human beings.
    Back in those halcyon days of 1967-68, I was old enough to hunt human beings, but not old enough to vote for those who ultimately sent me to that happy hunting ground. In fact, I was twenty-two years old before the first election rolled around where I was old enough to vote. The fact Master Hogg wants that Obama broad to be president says a lot. I’ll bet he goes to bed dreaming of Miss AOC every night. Thinking of serving with her probably puts him in a continual state of rut. Ah, our country’s future is surely in good hands for the future. So, dream on, Master Hogg. If you happen to need a good weapon, I’ll sell you one. But hey, that won’t be necessary. Your bodyguards will all be well-armed, won’t they?

    • Martingard February 15, 2019, 2:00 pm

      Mike, you nailed it! An AR doesn’t even come close to an assault weapon. I carried a M-60 in `nam, `66-67. Now that was an assault weapon! M-16s with a selector could lay down some fire as did the M-14. I preferred the
      M-14 over the two but that M60 was totally awesome. Hogg is a paid mouth and will one day no longer be paid. Lets hear him then, if he’s still breathing.

  • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 10:38 am

    Many commentators have attacked the Kid on his looks and intentions.The message as usual has been lost.While DJT is ranting about the one offs that are killed by minority’s, our home grown citizens have killed 40K last year.The issue isn’t the kid, it’s our inability to separate truth from fiction or going into our coveted alternative realitiesSandy hook, MSD, Las Vegas, Orlando all have one thing in common.A person who has lost their way, lacked love & understanding and had a wish to know what it’s like to hunt humans.We need mental health treatment & support for these folks that are ostracized.Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Hogg went nuts and started shooting all those who have belittled, bullied or disrespected him on this thread?Common sense and acceptance is where we can find common ground for solutions to our entitled attitudes.I love my toys, they are part of my retirement plan.No solution and a gun ban would seriously affect me.We’re headed that way because of the hostility on this thread.Us vs them.Wake the hell up!

    • theincrowd February 15, 2019, 1:20 pm

      Please note that of that nearly 40,000, two thirds were suicides. Take the suicides away and that results in 4 gun deaths per 100,000 people.

    • Andrew February 16, 2019, 12:39 am


    • Robert Messmer February 16, 2019, 8:51 pm

      And very well should the President rant about the 3,650 killed and the over 30,000 children sexually molested by illegal aliens every year. Gun homicides run about 1/3 of auto deaths. Considering that the estimate is that there are @300 million guns in civilian hands in the US, if there was a problem with guns the bodies would be stacked ten deep in every street in the country. Orlando was an Islamic terrorist attack, not just a mass shooting. As to Las Vegas both the local cops and the feds have now closed their investigations, both with a finding of no known motive. You mention “Us vs them” which is true. But is it true because they attacked us by trying to remove a natural right to self defense with a Constitutional guarantee that protects the tools we can use to effect that defense.

  • ToolsforLiberty February 15, 2019, 10:29 am

    If he and his leftist friends are successful in passing any of the restrictions he is aiming for, it won’t matter. It will be unenforceable. Gregg Abott has in TX has already openly stated he will nullify ans refuse to enforce any and all additional measure in his state and will direct state law enforcement agencies not to work with Fed. law enforcement agencies in enforcing their measures. So. If anything Mr. Hogg in your success, you will be inciting the very “madness” you claim to want to end.

    • CharlieKing1 February 15, 2019, 1:03 pm

      ToolsforLiberty- with all due respect, I’m from Texas and I don’t doubt what you say about Gov. Abbott. However, can you cite the quote or provide me a link to his quote? I’d like to run with this quote in some of my replies to the nay sayers. In fact, I’ve written Gov. Abbott asking if we could turn all of Texas into a sanctuary state for gun owners. Wouldn’t that be a hoot? I’m really concerned with the way all of this is heading, we’ve got this young Hogg guy who is still wet behind the ears with no real life experience and Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo cheer leading for more gun control instead of crook control. We 2A supporters have got to start working together to defeat these leftists…

  • Charles February 15, 2019, 10:24 am

    I did not read this article, because that kid is a waste of time. Quit spreading his useless name around

    • Russ February 15, 2019, 10:46 am

      that, and he is a Fraud.

  • John C Mullendore February 15, 2019, 10:20 am

    Hogg, 1500 meters? Do the math 4950 feet, 5280 feet is a mile, you can’t kill a drop at 300 meters, with a 30.06 if you even know what that is drops 36+” at 1000 yards, In order to be a good debater you have to know what you are talking about. Being young and stupid is the only smart thing to say about you. I have never heard an accurate statement from an anti gunner because you have never shot a rifle or you would know ballistic tables, such as caliber to bullet drop. Long range shots are never taken with an AR because they don’t shoot that far. But just for your 15 mins. of fame, you just show you are as uninformed as all anti gunners. Do some research if you can actually read. Son you should be castrated, then banned from all office. What do you expect to do about the millions of rifles already sold. What part of shall not be infringed mean to you. There in the constitution it also says you can’t take someones property. My AR has about 1800.00 tied up into it. That is just one gun. This country can not afford to purchase these weapons from us. You need to grow up, shut up, personally (just my humble opinion) you were to die tomorrow 6 million NRA members and others that aren’t members would cheer a loud shout. The day after guns are banned a new civil war will break out. We have the biggest standing army of any nation, you want my gun, don’t burn your fingers cause it will be hot, plenty of ammo makes that possible, but you can only have by pulling it from my stiff rigor fingers. You first kid. If anti gunners had had a brain they would just pull it out and play with it.

    • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 10:55 am

      You know the kids dad is ex-FBI?Expect a visit from LEO for your short sighted rant against a 17 YO.How would you feel if an unknown keyboard warrior threatened your kid several times?It ain’t the kid, it’s the message.We have a violent citizenry which is unable to communicate effectively as you’ve so eloquently expressed.Common sense background checks, that aren’t based on the honor system might help curve those new applicants that shouldn’t own a gun.Our rights can be infringed and taken if we continue to attack and not listen.There is a middle ground should we choose to leave the comfort of our caves.Grow the hell up, attacking the kid doesn’t help our position.BTW I build & reload, my retirement plan is partially based on my ability to off load as needed.A ban would really put a crimp in that plan.

  • john terpening February 15, 2019, 10:17 am

    Its too bad his name is Hogg. Its too close to the real hog. They do not deserve the association with a pos like him.

  • MB February 15, 2019, 10:11 am

    David Hogg is a beta male version of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a petulant, narcissistic child who thinks the world needs him ” to fix it”. You be sure to thank his parents and Broward county school district for the indoctrination of, the lack of intelligence and complete lack common sense so visible in this permanent man child. Also thank Mom’s Demand Action / Bloomberg for their contribution to this nonsense.

  • D.J. February 15, 2019, 9:56 am

    Does this child , Master Hogg , understand that 1500 meters is 1,640.42 yards ?
    That shot MAY be possible with EXTENSIVE match graded modification. But I
    am more than sure that a weapon generally designed for 400 meter
    effectiveness in a combat situation could not make said shot .
    Besides , the cost for that sort of customization would be well above the means
    of the average ” plinker ” or criminal.
    Again , this future politician is behaving in a hyperbolic manner . How sad .

  • AJ February 15, 2019, 9:54 am

    This is just more evidence that democommies don’t give a rats ass about the truth. This little bastard admitted he wasn’t a survivor of anything. He admitted he left his house, on his bicycle, as soon as he saw it on the news.

    He’s just another liberal that pulled the wool over people’s eyes in order to make a profit from a tragic event.

  • jackkade February 15, 2019, 9:51 am

    I still want to know why hogg-shit was not at school that fateful day??? I think he was forewarrrned by the shooter that SHTF was happening on the day. So hogg-shit was home preparing his speech for the media.

  • Franics Miller February 15, 2019, 9:42 am

    Going down to RK guns and pick up my new M1A1 i have wanted since way before Hogg head was born! Next keep stock piling ammo that will be the next big move again on capitol hill . This punk ought to go do some thing useful with his life and Join the ARMY.

    • Greg February 15, 2019, 10:18 am

      Ohhhh hell no. I wouldn’t want him in the army. Little pinko commie would open the gate for the enemy to walk in. Probably shoot our own guys in the back

  • Bad Penguin February 15, 2019, 9:37 am

    This is a very sad angry and very stupid young man who is crying out for attention. He needs professional mental health care and to never be allowed near a camera again. I’d recommend he be sterilized also so he cant bring more defective people into the world.

    • G'UmByTheP' February 15, 2019, 11:54 am

      Wishing for the sterilization of a victim of horrific violence, just because he has the audacity to use his constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights. Keep it classy!

      • Scott February 15, 2019, 3:02 pm

        “Wishing for the sterilization of a victim of horrific violence, just because he has the audacity to use his constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights. Keep it classy!”


        You’re going to throw your elbow out if you keep virtue-signalling like that.

  • Mott February 15, 2019, 9:35 am

    His OWN words, He was not even there when SHTF

  • Rick B February 15, 2019, 9:35 am

    I can only hope David H somehow walks in front of speeding bus…truck…bullet, the end result is the same and I hope he has a few Damnicrats w him too !

    • G'UmByTheP' February 15, 2019, 11:55 am

      Wishing for the death of a victim of horrific violence, just because he has the audacity to use his constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights. Keep it classy!

  • Merchant February 15, 2019, 9:28 am

    This kid has a lip problem…!!! Still wet behind the ear…Are you serious…not likely. People still have to hunt in some places in our societies still .You forget there are people who live in remote areas of the country and still carry guns for there are animal threats like rabies and dementia…The have to depend on. towns and cities for their weapons and ammo to survive….Tell this wet nose brat to start getting out in those remote areas and see first hand why we do have a second amendment….

  • TrouserTrout February 15, 2019, 9:26 am

    1500 meters? Isn’t that how far away the chicken shit sheriff stood by and watched? Hog shit can suck my Glock!

  • Michael Montgomery February 15, 2019, 9:24 am

    Bahahahahahhaaaa my ribs hurt from laughing after reading this

  • Jack W Patrick February 15, 2019, 9:18 am

    A PRICK IS A PRICK, IS A PRICK, IS A PRICK! He says he wishes Meshell Obama would run for president. Well I sincerely hope that Hogg will step out in front of a fast moving train!

    • G'UmByTheP' February 15, 2019, 11:56 am

      Wishing for the death of a victim of horrific violence, just because he has the audacity to use his constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights. Keep it classy!

      • Scott February 15, 2019, 2:59 pm

        “Wishing for the death of a victim of horrific violence, just because he has the audacity to use his constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights. Keep it classy!”


        He can exercise his 1st Amendment right all he wants, right up to the point where he seeks to violate MY rights, including the right to keep and bear arms, which is God-given and unalienable, recognized and guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.

        It sounds like your position is that the 2nd Amendment (and the God-given Right it protects) is less important that Hogg’s exercise of the 1st Amendment. I’m sure that’s not the case, but that’s what it sounds like.

        The 1st Amendment doesn’t exist without the 2nd Amendment. Without arms, we would have no Constitution OR 1st Amendment, and we would still be a British colony.

        If he has the audacity to abuse the 1st Amendment by seeking to destroy the 2nd Amendment, should the 2nd Amendment not be defended?

        This little monster has turned himself into a cruise missile, locked on the 2nd Amendment as his target.

        And you’re tut-tutting others to ‘keep it classy’ while the entire MSM apparatus seeks to disarm the American People?

        Why is it that our side never hesitates to shoot our own, in a desperate attempt to virtue-signal some kind of imaginary moral-superiority?

        You don’t see the Communists do that.

    • glock19fan February 15, 2019, 1:22 pm

      Please don’t call him a prick; that is the identifying part of a man. OTOH every living creature has an [anal pore].

  • K.L. February 15, 2019, 9:08 am

    Early on, the first thing I noticed about his comments in the TV interviews, was that they came right out of the Bloomberg gun-control propaganda. In this article he says that he read things to prepare for the debates in school events. Perhaps that is where he got so much of the Bloomberg angle–however, the NRA had debunked that stuff.

  • AmericanVet February 15, 2019, 8:39 am

    Does it really come as any surprise that a strange, unpopular kid, who was rejected by his chosen University (and ranted about it with indignation to the media), would see a personal opportunity in tragedy? That he would use mass murder like a cheap prop; climbing over the corpses of slain classmates and exploiting their memory, to reach the only pinnacle he could ever hope to achieve? That he would desperately grab at any opportunity to escape the obscure anonymity he was destined to; even if it meant being an ignorant, vulgar, grandstanding fool making a public spectacle of himself on national television?

    Like a looter rifling through a family’s devastated, still-smoldering home, in search of valuables after a fire, Hogg reduces to political currency, the painful loss parents, families and friends of murdered students still feel very deeply, and always will. Because he isn’t doing it for them; and, it isn’t about guns either. No, this is all about awkward and insecure David Hogg, finally getting HIS lucky break; HIS chance to be famous and bask in the spotlight; to defiantly thrust HIS fist in the air, and rebel against authority with everyone watching; to see HIS name in the paper and feel, for once, like somebody important.

    This is David Hogg’s only chance to BE somebody; to be noticed. To wield and brandish the power he perceives leftist media exposure has given him, with the same manic glee as a lunatic shooter recklessly brandishing a loaded weapon in a crowd.

    • MB February 15, 2019, 10:15 am

      Well put. I think you nailed it.

    • Harley Meiroff February 15, 2019, 2:05 pm

      Well put, and with plenty of class.

  • jesus r garcia February 15, 2019, 8:26 am

    Two words, MENTAL HEALTH! KEEP GUNS AWAY FROM MENTALLY IMPAIRED PEOPLE! Inanimate objects do not kill people, people kill people. ie, cars don’t kill people, people driving cars kill people, etc…!

    • MB February 15, 2019, 10:22 am

      But wait until they ( the media, politicians and leftist) define gun ownership as a “mental defect” Don’t think so? Federal law prohibits firearm possession by individuals who have been “committed to a mental institution” or “adjudicated as a mental defective.” so it’s not a far stretch for them to declare every gun owner crazy and with William Barr, the architect of the Ruby Ridge slaughter is now A.G, prepare for it to get worse for gun owners.

  • BOUNTY HUNTER February 15, 2019, 8:26 am

    Great Hogg! Now you’ve campaigned to pass laws to take firearms away from law abiding citizens. Maybe next you can figure out how to take them away from criminals.

  • robert konya February 15, 2019, 7:59 am

    that little lying fag..he is 25 yrs old remember that fag had to ride his girls bike to the school he said….what a lying little faggot..why dont somebody ask that little fag why was he arrested in in meth bust ..

  • Bayou Boys February 15, 2019, 7:45 am

    This little punk was talking right after the shooting he knew the guy was trouble. Well stupid why didnt you say something to the proper personal. Maybe youre coward.

  • srsquidizen February 15, 2019, 7:36 am

    He and his ilk have plagiarized the “Never Again” motto from Holocaust survivors. Yet these gun grabbers want to create exactly the kind of totalitarian police state full of totally defenseless citizens which made the “Final Solution” feasible.

    • Mike Glasman February 15, 2019, 9:15 am

      By doing so it trivializes the meaning of “Never Again” it’s evident that David is a cheap opportunist

      • YuGo HuGo February 15, 2019, 10:08 am

        He doesn’t have enough sense to wear a cap properly which means he is just smart enough to be defined as a DumbAss! Therein lies the problem with the entire anti-gun community.

    • Stanley C Hudgins February 15, 2019, 9:58 am

      Absolutely right. This has always been the first tactic of communism and fascist governments. People who are unarmed are easy to control.

  • Aubrey O .Nabb February 15, 2019, 7:28 am

    LMAO_-AR with a 1500 effective range–guess he is an expert . Most fell remorse for the kids getting killed but state facts , not what you think –just a little twirp who needs to shut up.

  • Beachhawk February 15, 2019, 7:19 am

    Hogg is a teenaged twit who thinks he has the only right answers to society’s many problems. He shares that arrogance with many of his peers. He will either grow up and come to understand that he doesn’t have all of the answers or he will just become another left-wing loon of the Democrat Party.

  • Gary Hull February 15, 2019, 7:10 am

    This little puke face was cowering in some corner hoping the shooter would not see him. Now because he feels bad because he was hiding he has to do something to redeem himself.. What better than to blame all gun owners for his fear. Put him in the Army for a couple of years maybe he will growup before one of his fellow soldiers shoot him for cowardice.

    • donald February 15, 2019, 8:24 am

      id love to see that mini mouth punk Marine Corps

  • duckncover February 15, 2019, 7:02 am

    us gunners are in for a rough time ahead my friends………

  • Richard Slupe February 15, 2019, 6:48 am

    Hogg and his crew are nothing more than crisis actors that were brought in to take full advantage of the false flag at Marjory Stoneman. These are all manufactured by the federal government all to change popular opinion on firearms in order to disarm the American people. The MSM is in bed with them too achieve their goal. They do not check any facts what so ever. Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows a .223 AR 15 has a maximum effective range of 400-600.

    • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 9:53 am

      Hmm, as an avid gun enthusiast I can tell your comment is based on emotion and not facts.Effective range is based on the proficiency of the shooter & the ballistics of the round.
      Optimal gun care and type of sights used go a long way to get that 800 target.
      Most shooters won’t achieve a 100 target.But those of us who have range time in the 1000’s of hours can and do achieve upwards of 1000.
      I build & reload
      The kid should look at the problem “mental health” that’s the road to redemption in our great country.
      2nd amendment doesn’t say what guns are legal to own.
      The musket was the rifle of the day, I’m sure the founding fathers would have worded the amendment differently had they had a standing army & the weapons available today.

      • justacitizen February 15, 2019, 10:29 am

        No sir, I’m sure they would not have. They had common sense and a love of personal freedom.

      • Dennis Diggett February 15, 2019, 4:33 pm

        It is absurd to imagine the intent of the founders would be different depending upon the type of weapons available at the time. The point of the 2nd Amendment was for “the people” to be armed similarly to the army so they could effectively resist said army. In the 1700s, that was a musket; today it is AT LEAST an AR-15, some in 5.56 and some in 7.62.

  • Detroitdd February 15, 2019, 6:35 am

    Hog wasn’t at school when this tragedy took place. Was there a premonition? Advanced warning communicated by the assailant? Were they in this together? Now HE’S the one in the spotlight; and supposedly reaping benefits?
    Hmmm, something smells fishy…

    • USAPatriot1 February 15, 2019, 10:42 am

      I agree. Hogg seems to be “point child” for the millennials. His dad is CIA. Also, there’s the idiot, Leftist, anti second amendment and now fired sheriff Isreal who ignored multiple pleads for help from the shooter. Sounds like a text book case of MK-Ultra and a major FF.

  • George February 15, 2019, 6:05 am

    Hogg is a NOTHING…Media sensationalizes the little puke. Demand he be “removed” as a subject for any further articles or you will BOYCOTT that media. He would soon disappear.

  • Rangemaster11B February 15, 2019, 5:36 am

    Hogg boy needs to be more articulate. If CIVILIANS should not own AR’s, does he mean law enforcement as well?

  • Todd Flowers February 15, 2019, 5:34 am

    That rationale is like saying a car can go 150 mph so we know you are to go that fast ,stupidity and people are buying his b.s. !

  • Steven February 15, 2019, 5:32 am

    He’s a fraud.

  • Eric Haulenbeek February 15, 2019, 5:30 am

    This dope is the product of a public school education… seriously lacking any semblance of common sense and being used like a doorknob. Now there’s a great future.

  • Danko February 15, 2019, 5:19 am

    This kid is a real tool, talking like he knows about weapons ,to bad he don’t, all the networks would have to do is fact check his comments and they would know he’s flying by the seat of his pants

    • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 10:03 am

      The Kids father is an ex-FBI agent.
      Hogg has claimed he’s gone shooting with his dad.
      Hogg’s passion should be met with understanding and facts not insults and put downs.
      Attack the disease not the medicine.
      I was an NRA member until they told me how to vote
      I was 21.
      We have a mental health problem in the US once we all admit that we can remedy the problem.The background checks today are based on the honor systemWe should all agree that a real background check that includes mental health checks should be implemented
      Malls, schools, outdoor events, movie theaters are optimal soft targets for these cowards.
      Folks on no fly list got their hands on high powered weapons. How does that happen?

      • MB February 15, 2019, 10:27 am

        Do you work for Bloomberg? because you sound like you do.

        • nfafan February 15, 2019, 2:11 pm

          Yes, he does work for Bloomie…

      • justacitizen February 15, 2019, 10:35 am

        And all FBI agents are the know all be all ballistic experts. He’s dad was a desk jockey. He’s an idiot. Also just because someone tells you how and what to do doesn’t mean you go out and do it. If that’s the case, go f yourself.

      • DJH February 15, 2019, 11:03 am

        How do bad people in countries with strict gun laws get their hands on firearms? We used to be able to order firearms from the Sears catalogue. What changed?

  • Scott Free February 15, 2019, 5:09 am

    This kid should have zero credibility. 1) He isn’t old enough to buy a firearm, thanks to his whining won’t be able to for an additional 3 years. 2) He bald faced lied about him being @ the school, or riding is bike as fast as he could to the school…. Either way HE WAS NOT IN THAT SCHOOL WHEN THE SHOOTING TOOK PLACE! 3) He has no idea/concern what the United States Constitution says, he is on a power trip and should be ignored. Be advised the elites will use whatever is necessary to disarm the American populace, including using mentally deficient children like Hogg to forward their attempts.

    • Tire Of It February 15, 2019, 9:26 am

      Sure, little hitler-hogg is riding his opportunity just like Gore and others getting fed money from the left to spread misinformation and lies about guns.

  • David F. Podesta February 15, 2019, 4:15 am

    Liar, liar, pants on fire. The maximum effective range of an AR-15 rifle is 400-600 yards. The maximum effective range of the .338 Lapua Magnum round is @1500 yards. Snipers use this round for long shots. Hogg is making up his own facts to suit his agenda.

    • Allan Cloutier February 15, 2019, 9:33 am

      Yup.. Hogg needs a hug. LOL

    • Tire Of It February 15, 2019, 9:37 am

      I’ve read that the AR-15 round, 5.56 or .223, is actually a relatively small size ammunition. Sure it will kill if the shot is well place, but one of it’s intentions as a small round was to maim and cause more battle injuries which takes more effort and resources for a army to take care of the wounded then of the dead.

      • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 10:11 am

        You are correct.
        The .556 round is the diameter of a .22 cal bullet.
        The difference is the weight, shape and outer casing that makes the round an effective bone crushing over penetrating round.
        The 223 has less boom in the chamber due to the primer.
        You can shoot 223 from a 556 chamber but not the other way around.
        Chamber damage can make the weapon inoperable or cause a catastrophic failure that can injure or kill the shooter.

  • erndog February 15, 2019, 12:59 am

    More like an effective range of 1,500 feet

    According to the sheriffs press conference and comments following the shooting, he said the shooter used a .22 cal firearm.

    I believe it was further identified as a S&W AR-15 22

    • Pseudo February 15, 2019, 8:55 am

      I have been trying to find out about it possibly being a .22. Anyone have any links about it being a .22?

    • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 10:19 am

      A S&W AR 15 in .223 is effectively the same as an AR in the .556 chamber.The difference between the .223 & .556 is that the .556 chamber can accommodate a higher primer detonation.More powder Is effectively burnt quicker and the projectile goes faster & farther.
      .556 uses military grade Ammo whereas the .223 will eventually fail.There’s a 3rd option which is the Wylde chamber which can shoot both types of ammo just like the .556 chambered weapon.

      • Pseudo February 15, 2019, 1:05 pm

        That is not what I am looking for, but was it an actual S&W AR style rifle in .22 caliber.

  • Bobs your uncle February 14, 2019, 10:55 pm

    Classic, how to build a career on the tragedy of others. Blah blah, blah rhetoric and yet, no real solution. Millions of dollars collected by these activists. Real solutions ignored because they don’t fit their politics.

    • MiamiNice57 February 15, 2019, 10:25 am

      I wonder???
      If Hogg would have killed 17 bad guys singlehandedly would you be so dismissive?Or would you be praising him for a job well done?There still would be 17 families affected & 17 dead.I guess it’s perspective.Can’t have it both ways.

      • ljvarney February 15, 2019, 12:16 pm

        Hogg has killed no one…yet!

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