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Two weeks ago at the Smith and Wesson factory, I got my hands on something truly exciting, and the day has finally come that we can talk about it. That pistol is the M&P M2.0, a terrific new version of an already great pistol design. And, with a base price of $599 MSRP, it is extremely affordable.

It is exceedingly rare that a company listens carefully to all the wants of its consumers, and actually puts those features in its next generation of product. I am very happy to report that S&W is one of those companies.

What was wrong with the M&P 1.0? Nothing, actually. The guns ran great, lots of people loved them, and they carved a section of market away from other polymer striker-fired pistols. A significant section of market for that matter.  But it has been 10 years, and we expect some things to change in that kind of time frame. And every weapons system is a trade off. They all have strengths and weaknesses; it is inherent the game. Smith and Wesson has apparently been dropping the forum comments directly to the engineering department, because just about every request for a modification to the M&P I have ever heard of has been addressed.

The M2.0 left) features a full-length steel chassis visible through openings in the side of the dustcover. Shown next to an M&P9 1.0 (right).

SPECS

  • Chambering: 9mm or .40
  • Barrel: 4.25 or 5 inches
  • Grips: Interchangeable inserts
  • Action: Striker-fired
  • Finish: Matte black or FDE
  • Capacity: 17+1 (9mm), 15+1 (.40)
  • MSRP: Starting at $599

Where It Counts

Let’s start with what I see as the most radical change. The polymer on the 1.0 M&P was not as stiff as on a Glock, and because of that you felt more recoil on the M&P. It’s not a well-known fact, but the frame of a Glock actually twists under recoil, which absorbs some of the recoil force. Less stiff should make more twist, i.e. less recoil, but in didn’t really work out that way in the M&P 1.0. Something was slightly “off” in the equation when it came to perceived recoil. Maybe some minor element of the geometry of the frame’s shape, or something else. It was subtle, but if you held a Glock and an M&P side by side, you would feel more recoil in the Smith.

The M2.0 features numerous enhancements over the already popular original M&P. As with the original, a manual thumb safety is offered as an option.

The 2.0 version now has a steel skeleton that extends the length of the frame, underneath the polymer. The frame is much more rigid now, and recoil is noticeably lessened. I am not an engineer, but I am assuming this acts like rebar in concrete. Whatever the magic, it is working. The new frame is a huge step forward. It is easy to identify the new M2.0, since the steel frame is visible via windows on either side of the dust cover near the rails. In fact, that is now where the serial number is located.

The second most radical change is the texture of the grip. The M2.0 features a grip surface that is deeply reminiscent of Glock’s RTF2, aka “rough texture finish 2”. It doesn’t look the same, but it feels the same, and I love it. The new texture is by far one of the most aggressive of any production polymer pistol on the market, and really helps you hang on to the gun. Step one for me with new guns is generally to wrap the grip in skateboard deck tape, but I feel no need on the M2.0. It is fantastic, and something I recommend you put in your hands before you decide on your next pistol.

Also involving the grip, the M2.0 retains the same style of grip inserts as before. Now, however, you have four options instead of three. Small, Medium, Large, and a mid size between medium and large, called Medium/Large. I am guessing this addressed the hand size of a big segment of the population, but it is my one complaint about the M2.0. Given my hand size and the grip of the M&P, I wish they had gone with an XL instead. Oh well … .

The author really liked the new grip texturing of the M2.0, noting that it gave him a solid and firm grip on the pistol.

Next, the slide profile has changed. Lightening slides has become one of the more popular treatments for all the polymer guns, enough to create an entire cottage industry of gun shops that do just that. The M&P guys decided, “Why not ship them from the factory that way?”. The M2.0 has shaved every away every ounce of slide it seemed prudent to do, while retaining the old shape. You have to look close, but the new version is noticeably thinner. I would put in a weight difference here, but my 1.0 is a CORE version, so it is not an exact comparison.

An additional upgrade to the M2.0 is the inclusion of four total grip inserts, with the new one being a medium/large option. Standard 4.25-inch-barrel model in black shown.

The new trigger is going to make some people very happy. I was confused a few months ago when I was raving about the M&P trigger, and many of the readers expressed that I must have lost my marbles. My M&P 1.0 pistol is a Pro Series, and it turns out they have a different trigger than the regular 1.0. The new 2.0 series all feature the Pro Series trigger, and it is the best factory trigger of any striker-fired gun I have shot. This is a massive point in Smith and Wesson’s favor.

The frame of the M2.0 features more rigidity than the 1.0 due to the internal, full-length steel chassis.

More of a Good Thing

What else is new? There are a few other changes, but none as radical as those mentioned above. The slide release mechanism has changed, but is in the same place and is the same shape. The ejection port now has a recessed, rounded segment taken out of the top of the slide. I never heard of an M&P with ejection problems, so this may be purely cosmetic. The front of the slide now has cocking serrations, though they don’t extend all the way up the slide like the rear ones do. A 5-inch barrel model is now available in the M2.0, which before was only available in the Pro Series. The 5-inch has a loaded chamber indicator on top of the slide, which seems to be 5-inch unique. My other 4.25 inch M2.0 does not have this feature. Important to me, all the M2.0 models currently available do not have a magazine safety disconnect.

The author tested both a 5-inch-barrel “longslide” model (bottom) and a standard 4.25-inch barrel model (top).

As important, what has not changed? Smith and Wesson did a real solid to the consumer on this one. Unlike future generation pistols we have seen from other manufacturers, all prior accessories from the M&P line still work. Yes, it is backward compatible. I tested this myself on magazines and holsters. Magazines still function flawlessly, and visually are indistinguishable from the 1.0. My Safariland retention holster holds the new guns just as secure as the old one, no problems. It is really nice to be able to buy a new gun without needing to invest in a pile of adds-ons, when you already spent the money once.

The new M2.0 models represent a significant improvement in the well-established M&P line, and I am excited to see how they continue to grow. The line-up has some really great weapons with a solid track record. S&W has kept the option of a thumb safety as well, should you desire one. Available from day one, most of the SKUs come in flat dark earth as well as black, to add some color to your collection. 9mm and .40 are available now, with .45 ACP slated for the near future. This is a leap forward for Smith and Wesson I am happy to have gotten my hands on it. Stay tuned in for more information as it becomes available.

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  • Dave February 3, 2017, 8:37 am

    Are they discontinuing the 1st model? What are the 2 holes on the polymer in front of the gun? Looks horrible. I like that they got rid of the beavertail

    • Kyle February 19, 2017, 5:40 pm

      Did you really ask what the two holes are when it is clearly explained in the article?

  • Dave February 3, 2017, 8:37 am

    Are they discontinuing the 1st model? What are the 2 holes on the polymer in front of the gun. Looks horrible. I like that they got rid of the beavertail

  • brandon guillette January 30, 2017, 8:08 pm

    I own a pro series 5″ 1.0 , I guess you call it a 1.0 now, which I absolutely love and is my go to range gun. I own Glocks, a xdm, and a couple sp-01s, and always favor my Smith, except for the trigger on one of my cz sp-01 which is tuned and can not be beat. The 2.0 seems to have couple things in common with my 1.0 pro 5″, the trigger it seems, and the back straps. The 1.0 long slide pro guns did come with that texture instead of the less aggressive one given with the normal guns. But not extended to the front strap of the grip like the 2.0. I will be picking a 2.0 long slide up, as soon as they make a pro series with a core slide, so I can use a mrd on it. I am also interested in the metal insert in the frame, as I wonder if it helps the pistol as much as some have claimed. The wait is on for the next pro series, which might take a year at the regular pace.

  • Jason Porter January 24, 2017, 2:58 pm

    I’m a Glock fanboy who spent years ragging on the M&P. I picked up the 2.0 9mm 5″ for grins and ended up leaving the store with it. After a thorough range session, I’ve been converted. The trigger is natural, although it didn’t -necessarily feel that way when dry firing. Excellent recoil management was the most noticeable thing. Maybe it’s because it’s a full-size 9mm, but it handles itself well.

    Break-in was a little rough, but once I got a box of ammo through it started to loosen up. By the time I left the range, it was shooting reliably. Nothing to be concerned about, in my opinion.

  • Andrew K January 10, 2017, 10:28 am

    I’m excited about the new 2.0. I have the 1.0 full size 9mm M&P, and as long as the trigger is as good as that one, I’m sold. I’ve already invested ALOT in holsters and mags for the 1.0, so it’s nice to hear that the investment won’t go to waste.

    Great article by the way. Detailed with plenty of facts.

  • Nacho Name January 9, 2017, 11:13 pm

    How does the 2.0 trigger compare to an XDM?

  • Nick January 7, 2017, 3:21 pm

    I just got done shooting the m&p 2.0 9mm. Sir you are definitely wrong about the m&p 2.0 trigger…its the same garbage they’ve been putting in the m&p’s for a decade. Spongy, gritty, no wall, no reset. Be advised if you buy one expect to put a APEX in it.

    • EricInTexas February 11, 2017, 9:28 am

      Disagree with Nick. The trigger has some pre-travel , then a wall, has a nice reset. Pre-travel was gritty out of the box(easy fix), it was the trigger bar to striker block contact. Once the trigger hits the wall it has a very short clean break, followed by a reset which when dry firing you feel and hear.
      I saw the FDE 5″ m2.0 in a LGS 2 weeks ago. Once I had it in my hands it was a given, it was going home with me. Accurate, carries well, and a lot of fun to shoot. Around 500 rounds downrange and zero malfunctions. As someone that has owned/carried 10 different Glocks over the years and not just held them in a gun shop (Nick) I’m in a good position to make the call…… It’s a keeper.

  • Nick January 7, 2017, 3:20 pm

    I just got done shooting the m&p 2.0 9mm. Sir you are definitely wrong about the m&p 2.0 trigger…its the same garbage they’ve been putting in the m&p’s for a decade. Spongy, gritty, no wall, no reset. Be advised if you buy one expect to put a APEX in it.

    • john mcnick January 9, 2017, 5:26 pm

      Youre full of BS.You have not fired one. The new trigger is close to the pull of the sig320 and the reset in MORE tactile than a glock. Like I said, youre full of it and most likely just upset that M&P just released the glock killer with the 2.0

      • Jordan January 10, 2017, 12:37 am

        Would definitely disagree with the Glock killer part. But it is s sold contender. Already ordered one and should be able to pick it up in a day or 2 and we’ll see how it holds up against my Glock

        • Chad March 2, 2017, 10:29 pm

          Please update wether or not you like this better than your glock. I’ve owned 7 glocks, and the 2.0 beats them all hands down

          • dave March 22, 2017, 8:55 pm

            I would not say that. The Glock barrel is superior in rifling life (polygonal rules in this category) and ease of maintenance. Firing pin/pin opening are also superior. I have experience with both Glock and S&W and they compliment each other in various ways.

      • Nick January 16, 2017, 9:28 pm

        I’m not full of “BS” my friend owns a gun shop and we took the m&p 2.0 out as soon as it came in. The trigger is crap and you are a liar. You’re probably being paid to say “it’s great and the reset is better than a Glock”. That’s the biggest load of BS I’ve heard. You must be getting Glock confused with a hipoint. Even the Ruger SR9 has a better trigger than the m&p 2.0.

        • Jason Porter January 24, 2017, 3:09 pm

          I was shooting my G19 and a 2.0 at the same time. I really like Glock triggers, but the trigger on the 2.0 was better for me. I guess that’s a subjective analysis that changes depending on the person, but there it is.

        • CHarper March 1, 2017, 12:48 am

          nick, think ur on the losing end of this one. Just shot it in both 9mm and .40, its not a “perfect” trigger, but its really pretty nice. definitely cant say its garbage. your opinion (on this topic atleast) seems to be….well….

          • kenneth hulsebus March 4, 2017, 10:31 am

            Watched a youtube video on the new 2.0 and the shooter said he would change the trigger to an Apex.

    • Slick February 11, 2017, 4:56 pm

      Nick – I highly doubt you actually shot the 2.0, or you are just here to place a biased discredit of the changes due to being a fan boy of some other branding… While I agree there is a still gritty take up that needs to be cleaned up, there is definitely a crisp wall and reset that feels almost exactly like a glock. Also, I wish they’d get rid of that hinged trigger which to me serves no functional purpose except to pinch your finger at the bottom or add an annoying slight cushion feel for initial take up. Apart from that the improved trigger is much more tactile. When I tested it, my first 10 shots were all touching at 7 yards. To anyone reading the comments, I’d disregard Nick’s comment as it sounds much more like a biased rant towards the brand. Go out and try one for yourselves. I think it is much improved, yet still has further room for improvement. Oh, and the grip texturing with the reduced beaver tail is phenomenal for keeping the gun on target for quick follow-up shots. Beware of going to high on the gun if you have large hands. My very first shot, my hand was to high and hindered the slide which caused a shell to not fully eject. Adjusted my grip just the slightest bit lower and had no other issues for the next 290 rounds (even with mag dumps) which is what should be expected. Overall I was pleasantly surprised by the small upgrades.

  • Steve Ford January 7, 2017, 12:11 am

    Any idea if MP1.0 parts will be interchangeable with the 2.0? For example I’ve got a MP PRO series 5″ ported 1.0 model & a 5″ pro series C.O.R.E 1.0 model. I love the attempt at stippling on the pro series frames but these 2.0 frames would be even better imho. Will I be able to drop a whole 1.0 slide on a 2.0 frame or vice versa? Will 1.0 mags still work with 9mm 2.0 guns? Just curious because I’m heavily invested in the smith 1.0 platform already..

    • john mcnick January 9, 2017, 5:28 pm

      I tried to do that the other day. Only the mags are interchangeable.

      • Jordan January 10, 2017, 12:39 am

        What about the holster? Is it compatible with 1.0 holsters or do I need to wait for a 2.0 holster to come out?

      • Cory January 10, 2017, 6:03 pm

        Can you drop a barrel in one from the original M&P or are those not interchangeable either?

  • Steve January 6, 2017, 11:38 pm

    Nice article! One of the few I’ve seen so far that actually has facts, I’m guessing because the author *actually* handled the gun. Where as most other articles I’ve seen on the smith 2.0 has been hearsay or regurgated advertising info. Do you know if the slides will be interchangeable by chance? I’ve got several PRO series 1.0 guns, 5″ ported & 5″ core model. Just wondering if I got a new 2.0 if I could swap the slides back and forth like you could on the 1.0s. Like would a 5″ ported 1.0 series fit on the new textured frames? And vice versa? I like the stippling they put on the 1.0 pro guns, but I think these new frames are better still imho. Again thanks for the good info!

  • Guy Sonier January 6, 2017, 2:41 pm

    As far as the recoil goes,,.. I have glocks and M&P’s in 40 cal, and I can tell you in all honesty that the glock has more felt recoil than the M&P .. so that statement about the recoil being more in the old M&P is false…

    • JP January 10, 2017, 10:32 am

      I agree and MP 1.0 pistols shoot much softer than the glocks in 9mm and 40.The glock 45 /10mm is another story but that is attributed to the slide weight .

  • Billy Blumpkin January 6, 2017, 2:28 pm

    Are they going to do a M2.0 for the Compact version???

    • john mcnick January 9, 2017, 5:28 pm

      yes, coming 4th quarter.

      • Robert Wagner February 4, 2017, 11:49 am

        Can I buy a compact model in forth quarter in CA with 10 rnd mags or none box and use my 1.0 mags, will the Apex trigger components be interchangeable?

        • tim February 16, 2017, 11:26 pm

          Nope. Guess you haven’t been paying attention to the laws in Calif for the last few years! No new semi auto pistols allowed there due to the microstamping requirement. None. Nada. Tisk tisk. Also no mag disconnect or LCI. No manufacturer has implemented mictostamping. Cal DOJ Handgun roster. Previous years model of many are grandfathered in. Google it. You will be shocked & disappointed. Also Go to calguns.net to learn more. Sorry.

  • Hickok6MM January 6, 2017, 11:13 am

    The one improvement that is important to me is its rough texture, which is all around its grip.
    If a gun slips out of one’s hand in rain, whatever other improvements it had don’t matter.
    Anyway, don’t understand why recoil is softer with a lighter slide, maybe SW figured out how to distibute recoil forces thru-out the polymer by the steel frame (?).

    • Ralph Celia April 30, 2017, 12:28 am

      Hickok 6MM, FYI, do like I do. . I take a blood thinner pill every day of my life so the FNH gun’s I have the grips are aggressive. So I order my FNH, which I know will hurt my x trucker of 30 years hands , lol , and when I find out by trying the gun with the backstraps that feels good , I call Talon grips and I order a set of rubberized grips for that gun. I have them on the majority of my guns I own. Works out great for me.

  • Mmmtacos January 6, 2017, 10:30 am

    Clay,

    Thanks for the article, definitely revealed some nice insight to the gun I am most intrigued about getting my hands on next. But a quick question: what is that button in front of the slide release? It vexes me… thanks!

  • Jimbobvfr January 4, 2017, 6:48 pm

    This Guy is smoking on stage! At exactly 53-58 seconds he inhales midsentence and continues

    • Carrie Meredith January 12, 2017, 1:29 pm

      its cold and thats his breath

  • George Jones January 4, 2017, 11:03 am

    “The M&P 1.0 didn’t really have any problems.” Seriously? Did you speak to representatives from the Texas DPS or California Highway Patrol, who called S&W and told them to come get their POS M&Ps after they broke barrels and had significant accuracy issues? Why can’t gun writers just tell the truth about certain companies and their handguns? The M&P 1.0’s problems were at least as significant at the Gen 4 Glock or Sig P320 Compact, but I haven’t seen nearly the press because S&W is the gun media’s darling, despite having foisted upon the world the Sigma .40 and the Clinton agreement in the late 90s.

    So, GunsAmerica, dos the S&W 2.0 deal with the well-known barrel and accuracy issues or not?

  • Fred January 4, 2017, 12:00 am

    Does anyone know if they plan on coming out with a compact version of the new pistol?

  • CrunchBite319 January 3, 2017, 11:57 pm

    So you say that the Glock frame being more flexible reduced recoil, then immediately say the stiffer M&P frame reduces recoil? It can’t be both. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

    • clay martin January 4, 2017, 11:15 am

      I said there is a balance point. To stiff, no flexibility, all the recoil is transfered to your hand. To flexible, you also feel higher recoil, as the frame tries to twist out of your hand. the balance point absorbs some of the recoil, but isn’t so flexible it coils up like a spring. its like shocks on a car. to soft, you feel every bump. to heavy, you also feel every bump, because the shocks never move.

      • Ken Mann January 4, 2017, 5:13 pm

        You actually write for a magazine and don’t know the 1st grade difference between “to” and “too” ? (screenshot taken)

        • S.H. Blannelberry January 4, 2017, 7:06 pm

          Yeah, and he doesn’t know to capitalize the first word at the beginning of a sentence, and the difference between “it’s” and “its” and where to place a comma in a sentence. Clay is an utter and complete idiot! You shouldn’t listen to a word he has to say about anything…

          Or he does know all that shit but was simply making a quick comment in the COMMENT SECTION of this article and could care less about sound grammar, punctuation.

          If you ask me, only a bonehead would draw one of those two conclusions. I’ll leave it up to you to figure out which one it is.

          • Jaque Bauer January 6, 2017, 5:38 am

            Clay clearly does not need anyone to defend him, but I felt I necessary to respond. If I you were up to your ass in alligators and an ISIS swordsman was bearing down on you who would you want by your side, a Harvard English Major or Clay Martin? To whine and moan about a mans grammatical errors in an article reviewing a firearm tells me you must have shared genetic material with Obama, as you suffer from the same malady as he. You both cannot identify whats truly important, and what to ignore. So you focus on the minutia, while the very important escapes your focus. In the mean time your surroundings are on fire.

        • clay martin January 5, 2017, 12:51 pm

          I went to your mother’s house. She was only too happy to pay the rent. With her pants off.

          • Alan January 7, 2017, 3:39 pm

            LOL! Dude, you’re mean!!! 🙂

          • Disappointed January 21, 2017, 11:10 pm

            Wow, totally unprofessional. Your nasty comment is disappointing and a detraction from your article. You should be ashamed.

  • AJ Sullivan January 3, 2017, 11:20 pm

    What is that little tab in front of the slide release? Is that a new way to drop the sear? Or do you still flip the little bar inside the mag well?

    • Rog January 6, 2017, 9:55 am

      You don’t have to “flip the little bar” in an M&P to disassemble. Make sure it is MT. Pull the trigger and it comes apart just like a Glock.

  • Tyler January 3, 2017, 9:32 pm

    More steel makes for a better gun, what a shocker. I’m obviously in the minority but I’ll never understand the attraction to plastic guns.

    • Theron Patrick January 9, 2017, 3:52 pm

      I’m a bit old fashioned also. I’ve been shot several plastic framed guns and noted the strong points but I never shot as well as I do with my 1911s.

  • Rick January 3, 2017, 6:37 pm

    So did they address the issue of the barrels being crap? If they didn’t improve them then it will be a mute point of these pistols. Accuracy has been a big issue with the line of M&P pistols.

    • Whisper January 3, 2017, 11:06 pm

      *moot

    • Rich January 4, 2017, 10:59 am

      The only chronic accuracy issues have been with the 9mmFS model. I agree that it is a real issue but it is not an issue with every M&P pistol.

    • john mcnick January 9, 2017, 5:35 pm

      The barrel issue was addressed in 2015 with the gen 3 9mm – bull barrel and a change in twist rate plus up graded trigger bar for a better reset plus the grit was removed from the trigger. All M&P made after 2015 3rd quarter has the 3rd gen changes.

    • Larry January 29, 2017, 2:54 am

      I have never had an Accuracy problem with any of my M&P’s, maybe you just need a little more time on the range, heck we can never get to much time on the range.

  • Keith January 3, 2017, 5:24 pm

    Having carried a M&P40 for eight years and a M&P9 for three years on duty and loaned my M&P40 out to several officer when I had it this is the absolute first time I’ve ever heard anyone say a Glock had more recoil. I’m also sorry to hear about the frame texture. I know absolutely no one who wants the Glock RTF texture on a carry pistol and very few who liked it on even dedicated target pistols. Everyone I know sanded theirs down so it didn’t tear up clothes when carried and their hands when shooting.

  • Ball January 3, 2017, 4:23 pm

    No 10mm?

  • progun January 3, 2017, 4:09 pm

    SWEET! I cant wait to get my hands on one. only problem is I live in the oppressive state of California. Im sure they wont be selling them anytime soon here. they used too but they fell off the DOJ list for some reason which is ridiculous bc its only one of a few strikers you can buy with a safety. Anyway, I stopped trying to figure out the California DOJ reasoning a long time ago. And now that weve gone full draconian gun law, with background checks for ammo, plus you cant buy an AR or AK even with a bullet button anymore, the list goes on and on.. All state gun laws are a violation of the 2nd amendment. constitutional carry takes priority over state law. Its amazing how people out here are so scared and brainwashed by the government and corporate entertainment media. They are so eager to vote away their constitutional rights and privacy to a corrupt oligarchy. How does the saying go.?.. “those who trade liberty for security deserve neither.” and a false security at that. love that one.
    I also love this new M&P. Ive been wanting one for awhile over all the others. Right now I own. a shield,. SD9. and Beretta PX4. all 9mm. Thats all you can get out here besides a glock gen 3 and springfield XD. why you cant buy an M&P with a safety out here is mind boggling but i think Smith and Wesson just cant deal with California gun laws anymore and i dont blame them. I personally like the safety version bc id like to be able able to carry a gun with a chambered round with confidence and safety. similar to a hammer gun. but striker fired. i know people do this anyway with non safeties but id rather have the extra safety without having to worry about hitting the trigger and blowing my leg off. I know im in the minortiy here as most people seem to like the non safety versions. its why glock is so popular and even the FBI just adopted the non safety striker protocol. Now only if the army would drop the M92 and go with an american made pistol like the ruger or M&P DAO.? way overdue. The other reason i like the M&P over all the others is that the mags can be used in a Kel Tec sub2000. another gun on my “to buy list”. i know the sub2000 takes glock mags too but i like the grips better on the M&P, and I assume the mags on this new version are the same as the old 1.0. correct me if im wrong. oh well. californian dreamin? . NOT!. dreaming to get out of here someday so i can buy my two dream guns. thanks for the article.

    • Robert Wagner February 4, 2017, 12:02 pm

      Thanks my feelings also, I want compact here CA,

  • Concord Shooter January 3, 2017, 4:06 pm

    The M&P M2.0 looks more like a Walther PPQ M2 competitor than a Glock competitor. I have the PPQ M2 5″ barrel and absolutely love it. My son who had never shot a handgun in his entire life blew out a bulls-eye with three 15-round magazines at 5-yards, so I believe he agrees with me that the Walther PPQ M2 trigger (which has also recently been called the best striker fired “factory” trigger on the market) plus felt recoil is a non-issue. I’m so impressed I will be looking seriously at the new Walther PPS M2 for conceal.

    However, this M&P M2.0 looks very impressive and I like the underlying steel frame. I’d love to see how this new gun compares side by side to the Walther PP2 M2.

  • Mike January 3, 2017, 2:56 pm

    Hi Clay,

    Thanks for the review. I do have one question though: did the changes that S&W make affect the weight of the version 2.0 pistol?

    • clay martin January 3, 2017, 5:47 pm

      I am not actually sure if it affected the weight. a tiny bit more steel in the frame, but a bit more off the slide, I bet they balance out to close to the 1.0 weight.

  • Tony P. January 3, 2017, 2:43 pm

    I think the improvements are great. Mind you I’ve been steady carrying my M&P 9mm 4.25″ for almost 3 years now. And I love it’s grip over my Glock G19 way more. Sig, of course has the nicest grip, but the cost! So for me, my M&P was my “poor-man’s” Sig alternative. The only thing I don’t like, and I am glad they got rid of it, is the “beaver-tail”, which always seems to dig in that upper roll. LOL. But as far as performance, reliability, capacity, and ease of usage goes, hands-down my M&P has been one of my favorite CCW’s to date. But now I’ve got to sell another one of my Glocks to get this new one. 🙂 And to all you Glock lovers out there, please relax. I’m not a Glock hater, I’m just one of those “old dudes” with arthritis in his knuckles, so those finger-groves are not a good comfortable shooting experience for me. But now I do like my G43 with the Striker +2 mag bottom. It shoots great, but once again, I really love capacity. And to all you know-it-all trigger critics; when you are in fear for life and Peter The Perp is about to send you meet your Blessed Maker, I guarantee that “spongy” trigger, and that so called false reset won’t mean Jack S#%T ! Like anything else, its all about preparedness through intense, and consistent TRAINING! But if you’re referring to the trigger issue for competition, that would be a different consideration. A Safe & Happy New Year to all. FIDELLIS AD MORTEM, because you only got 1*!

  • Steve January 3, 2017, 1:56 pm

    I will buy one the day they release it in 45acp….any idea if they have that in the works?

    • Mike January 3, 2017, 4:47 pm

      ” Available from day one, most of the SKUs come in flat dark earth as well as black, to add some color to your collection. 9mm and .40 are available now, with .45 ACP slated for the near future. “

      • Paul January 4, 2017, 2:10 am

        so when are these officially available?

        • john mcnick January 9, 2017, 5:38 pm

          March

  • Dusty January 3, 2017, 1:48 pm

    My local retailers still tell me that the M&P platform has a magazine safety. (My Shield does not…) Magazine safeties are a non-starter for me. I don’t allow them in my gun safe and wont carry a pistol so equipped. My co-workers tell me the weapons handle just fine- accuracy and reliability are great but since I sold my Hi-Powers, that “safety” feature hasn’t resided with me. (Too bad Ruger has been building so many pistols that way too.)

    • Mike January 3, 2017, 2:51 pm

      Dusty,

      Your local retailer is right and wrong. S&W has always offered the option of magazine safeties or thumb safeties or none of the previously mentioned.

      Regards,

      Mike

    • Matt W. January 3, 2017, 8:18 pm

      Might be that you’re retailer is looking for a little bit more profit. Many of the mag-safety SKU’s sell for a few bucks less wholesale or are “on sale” due to lack of demand. Unless you have laws mandating safeties, he should have no problem getting you mag safety-less M&P’s.

    • Alan January 7, 2017, 3:42 pm

      Well gee, now just how hard is it to test for a mag safety?????

  • James January 3, 2017, 12:08 pm

    The M&P has always had a metal chassis to stiffen the frame, that was part of the original marketing because it supposedly solved the frame-flex induced failures of some .40 Glocks.

    One change I didn’t see mentioned, It looks like S&W removed the beaver tail on the full sized guns in the 2.0 version. That would as also a much discussed change in many forums with some users grinding it off.

    • clay martin January 3, 2017, 12:32 pm

      the steel chassis hasn’t always extended the full length of the gun. it does now.

  • Frank Gagliano January 3, 2017, 10:47 am

    Why would you have “openings” in a “dust” cover?

    • clay martin January 3, 2017, 11:58 am

      there is steel over the holes. its so you can see serial number, now engraved on the steel at that end.

      • Nacho Name January 9, 2017, 11:11 pm

        Any idea if this is to create a modular system like the SIGs have where you can swap out the frame? Typically when we see this that’s usually the idea behind a serial number on an internal frame, no?

  • mrpski January 3, 2017, 10:44 am

    Despite some of the negativity I read here my first duty gun bought back in 73 was a model 19 & last year I bought a shield. Both in my opinion fine weapons for the price & the M&P likewise. Really glad to see the grip treatment enhancement on the M&P. At first I thought the sights were off on my shield until I got a set of Talons on & started hitting the bull again. That thin grip takes a little getting used to but it sure carries nicely.

    • Patrick January 3, 2017, 12:25 pm

      Funny I bought a “used” M&P40 in 2008 from a local police officer. It shoots and handles perfectly from my point of view through range work and advanced combat courses. Never jammed, never misfired, perfect grip and way better than the 1911s I have used at twice the price. Must try a 2.0 and see if it works better for me.

  • Deadmeat99 January 3, 2017, 10:39 am

    My M&P Core is great… now that ive dumped about $450 in aftermarket parts in it. The M2.0 addressed everything except for what is really wrong with every stock M&P: the terrible trigger and junk barrel. Considering Smith is now in the gimmick business (ported barrel and fiber optic sights on concealed carry gun) I’m surprised Crimson Trace didn’t sucker them into putting a laser on each M&P from the factory. Should have known the grass wasn’t greener on the other side and stuck with Glock.

  • buhbang January 3, 2017, 10:33 am

    these are not so much “improvements” as much as they are fixing all the flaws they werent smart enough to foresee with the last design. they won’t come out and tell you this was wrong or that was wrong, so they make minor adjustments and call them “improvements”. and now they do the things they should have known to do before and calling it the new 2.0. the only new things are what they copied from other gun makers, which aren’t new… only new to s&w,
    it’s all just marketing hype to sell more of the same to the same people who bought last years “now” outdated design,
    and now owners of the 1st. gun get lower resale prices and paying more for basically the same gun they bought last time
    thanks for taking the financial hit so s&w can charge more for the “new” gun

  • B Mitchell Bedwell January 3, 2017, 10:21 am

    Do you think they will be making the Shield 2.0 as well?

  • Jake January 3, 2017, 10:21 am

    The Pro is far from the best striker fire trigger. I have one and the pull weight was good but seems to project recoil back through the trigger. I installed an Apex hard sear and it improved the trigger to the extent you could probably shoot Bullseye matches with it. With a red dot these things can drive tacks.
    The Ruger American has the best out of the box trigger on a striker I have experienced so far and perhaps the best on a non target pistol I have ever had. For all you lefties it is completely ambidextrous as well. 100% 1911 muscle memory with the Ruger as well. If you are a 1911 guy you will never have a glitch transitioning between that and an American. The S&W levers and buttons are more or less in the same places but just do not work EXACTLY like Old Slabsides as the Ruger does. I must give the edge in fast reloads to the M&P. The Ruger does not have as smooth and open a mag chute in my opinion.
    I keep hearing raves about the Walther PPQ Q5 trigger but have yet to get my hands on one to see.

    • Nacho Name January 9, 2017, 11:12 pm

      Have you ever shot an XDM? Wondering how it compares. (The M&P Pro or M&P 2.0 to the XDM)

  • Valiant Thor January 3, 2017, 10:13 am

    I’d still take the Sig P320 over this offering. More accurate and reliable.

    • TDE2749 January 6, 2017, 1:28 pm

      Not sure about your accuracy claims. So far, the test group data from several gun writers who’ve shot the M 2.0 show it to be every bit as accurate as a Sig P320. I always hear Sig shooters talk about how accurate Sig’s are compared to other handgun makers. I carried the Sig 229 on duty and while it was accurate I wasn’t more accurate than most other pistols I’ve carried.

      • TDE2749 January 6, 2017, 1:29 pm

        should read “it” wasn’t more accurate above

      • Guy Sonier January 6, 2017, 2:57 pm

        Have carried sig 229 , 226, 320.. I still carry on duty my full size M&P 40.. accurate , shoots soft.. sigs have to claim to be more accurate to justify those stupid prices ….

  • Jared January 3, 2017, 9:40 am

    I have a 4.25″ M&P40 that I absolutely love. One thing I added to the was the apex flat faced trigger/sear kit. Would the apex kit for a 1.0 be compatible with 2.0? From what I read it seems so.

  • Mark Bedock January 3, 2017, 9:36 am

    My wife and I love our Smiths. I bought a 4.25 with a threaded barrel and added a comp and Apex flat faced trigger kit. My wife shot it and bought the V-Tac and had me set hers up like mine. We love them. The 2.0 looks to have even more to like. I wonder when the 5.0 will come with a threaded barrel ? Hint….

  • Gary babcock January 3, 2017, 9:01 am

    Any trivial thing to jack up the price.

  • William Selke January 3, 2017, 8:48 am

    I have had several S&W semi-autos in the past, good guns. But, I’m a lefty and for some reason S&W does not offer an ambidextrous or reversible mag release. For me that’s a turn off. When Glock came out with their Gen4 models with a reversible mag release I bought two, a 19 and a 26. I didn’t even give the M&P a consideration.

    • James January 3, 2017, 8:02 pm

      The mag releases on the original m&p’s are totally reversible just not on the shield.

    • Allan January 3, 2017, 10:38 pm

      I agree. S&W has never addressed the lefty world. FN builds the best Ambi pistols. Their 45 FNX carries 15 rounds and fully Ambi. Best and most accurate pistol I have ever shot. I can shot both left and right but prefer left. Tired of any manufacture that doesn’t support both. Sig, S&W, Ruger, Glock & Springfield (except mag release). I own all of them but carry and shot my FN with both hands every time. What a concept, make a pistol with all controls on both sides. Makes us all better shooters, safer and more versatile when you can use either hand.

      • James January 4, 2017, 1:05 pm

        I must be missing how the full size M&Ps are not ambidextrous or at least lefty friendly.. The slide has releases on both sides and the mag release is reversible.

  • William Selke January 3, 2017, 8:48 am

    I have had several S&W semi-autos in the past, good guns. But, I’m a lefty and for some reason S&W does not offer an ambidextrous or reversible mag release. For me that’s a turn off. When Glock came out with their Gen4 models with a reversible mag release I bought two, a 19 and a 26. I didn’t even give the M&P a consideration.

    • Rick Chartier January 3, 2017, 9:29 am

      I think you are mistaken. Actually, I know you are. I’m a lefty also. That’s why I bought an M&P five years ago; because it IS ambidextrous. The slide release is ambidextrous and the mag release is easily reversible. My M&P 9mm has been set up Lefty all along. I originally chose an M&P over a Glock 19 or 17 because at the time, Gen 3s were all that was available from Glock and they were not lefty friendly. The Gen 4s are better for us Southpaws but Glock (as usual) was too late to the ambidextrous trend I love Glock, but why are they always so slow to add innovative features to their products?

      • William Selke January 3, 2017, 10:03 am

        Thanks for the update date. It’s been a long time since I even looked at the S&Ws because of the lack of that feature. For years I leaned towards and carried SIGs or Berettas. When Glock introduced the Gen4 I went for it.
        Maybe I should have taken a closer look at the M&Ps instead of dismissing them.
        Again, thanks!

  • SteveK January 3, 2017, 7:26 am

    Nice improvements, but I prefer black over that baby poop color.

  • Reddog January 3, 2017, 7:15 am

    Owned older Smiths for a lot of years and not a fan of the MP line. Spent way too much on a CORE Performance Center with marginal accuracy and an extensive DOE to find the right load-ongoing. Come to find out, most cats immediately replace the stock Performance Center barrel for a match grade-another $150 (Sorry Smith-an $800 piece designed for competitions that requires non-Smith barrel upgrades to be acceptable?). Springfield, and others, makes superior competition and walking around pieces at comparable prices.

  • Robert Wilson January 3, 2017, 6:39 am

    Will some of the 2.0 parts fit on the older version..?

  • William f.Harrell sr. January 3, 2017, 5:55 am

    Love to explore.
    William

  • William f.Harrell sr. January 3, 2017, 5:54 am

    Candy store.!

  • Browncoat January 3, 2017, 5:47 am

    All these ‘upgrades’ but still the same spongy trigger with the ‘false’ reset? Couldn’t they just subcontract triggers from Canik and drop them in?

    • TDE2749 January 6, 2017, 2:47 pm

      Have you shot the new 2.0 with the improved trigger?

  • billy blyth January 3, 2017, 5:39 am

    I hope the 9mm version is better than the one I unloaded. Could have stood in a barn fired three mags and not hit jack. {bit of exaggeration but not much} If I spot the new striker CZ first, then I probably won’t buy one.

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